Re: [DNG] What if...

2017-09-19 Thread KatolaZ
On Mon, Sep 18, 2017 at 11:35:27PM +0200, Arnt Karlsen wrote: [cut] > > > Which do you think Devuan should support, a dying Debian version or > > the supported Devuan version and its replacement ? > > ..above all, the volonteers trying to help people stuck there. > I only see my minima "Devua

Re: [DNG] What if...

2017-09-18 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Mon, 18 Sep 2017 21:26:24 +0100, Rowland wrote in message <20170918212624.530e2...@devstation.samdom.example.com>: > On Mon, 18 Sep 2017 22:09:08 +0200 > Arnt Karlsen wrote: > > > On Mon, 18 Sep 2017 17:03:47 +0100, Antony wrote in message > > <201709181703.47988.antony.st...@devuan.open.so

Re: [DNG] What if...

2017-09-18 Thread Rowland Penny
On Mon, 18 Sep 2017 22:09:08 +0200 Arnt Karlsen wrote: > On Mon, 18 Sep 2017 17:03:47 +0100, Antony wrote in message > <201709181703.47988.antony.st...@devuan.open.source.it>: > > > On Monday 18 September 2017 at 15:54:16, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > > > > > On Mon, 18 Sep 2017 14:35:24 +0100, Anton

Re: [DNG] What if...

2017-09-18 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Mon, 18 Sep 2017 17:03:47 +0100, Antony wrote in message <201709181703.47988.antony.st...@devuan.open.source.it>: > On Monday 18 September 2017 at 15:54:16, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > > > On Mon, 18 Sep 2017 14:35:24 +0100, Antony wrote: > > > On Monday 18 September 2017 at 14:27:04, Arnt Karlsen

Re: [DNG] What if...

2017-09-18 Thread Antony Stone
On Monday 18 September 2017 at 15:54:16, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > On Mon, 18 Sep 2017 14:35:24 +0100, Antony wrote: > > On Monday 18 September 2017 at 14:27:04, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > > ..and we still haven't proven it good enough for many of them. > And that can _only_ happen on Devuan Jessie LTS' o

Re: [DNG] What if...

2017-09-18 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Mon, 18 Sep 2017 14:35:24 +0100, Antony wrote in message <201709181435.24801.antony.st...@devuan.open.source.it>: > On Monday 18 September 2017 at 14:27:04, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > > > On Mon, 18 Sep 2017 12:59:20 +0100, KatolaZ wrote in message > > > > > > There is no need to be worried. Devu

Re: [DNG] What if...

2017-09-18 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Mon, 18 Sep 2017 15:00:07 +0100, KatolaZ wrote in message <20170918140007.gn23...@katolaz.homeunix.net>: > On Mon, Sep 18, 2017 at 03:52:44PM +0200, Didier Kryn wrote: > > Le 18/09/2017 à 15:35, Antony Stone a écrit : > > >I'd say there are two categories of people still (deliberately) > > >ru

Re: [DNG] What if...

2017-09-18 Thread Didier Kryn
Le 18/09/2017 à 16:00, KatolaZ a écrit : Dear Didier, this issue was solved by parazyd in amprolla3, and will become effective on all devuan mirrors soon:) HND Enzo Dear Enzo, I've read this already; I know it's comming and I'm waiting impatiently for the final announcement, becaus

Re: [DNG] What if...

2017-09-18 Thread KatolaZ
On Mon, Sep 18, 2017 at 03:52:44PM +0200, Didier Kryn wrote: > Le 18/09/2017 à 15:35, Antony Stone a écrit : > >I'd say there are two categories of people still (deliberately) running > >Wheezy: > > > >1. Those who would upgrade to Jessie except for systemd. > > > >2. Those who don't want to upgrad

Re: [DNG] What if...

2017-09-18 Thread Didier Kryn
Le 18/09/2017 à 15:35, Antony Stone a écrit : I'd say there are two categories of people still (deliberately) running Wheezy: 1. Those who would upgrade to Jessie except for systemd. 2. Those who don't want to upgrade something that's still working. I'm keeping Debian Wheezy on one machin

Re: [DNG] What if...

2017-09-18 Thread Antony Stone
On Monday 18 September 2017 at 14:27:04, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > On Mon, 18 Sep 2017 12:59:20 +0100, KatolaZ wrote in message > > > > There is no need to be worried. Devuan Jessie is running on thousands > > of servers out there, as is Devuan ASCII doing. > > ..for _some_ people, this worry is not

Re: [DNG] What if...

2017-09-18 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Mon, 18 Sep 2017 12:59:20 +0100, KatolaZ wrote in message <20170918115920.gj23...@katolaz.homeunix.net>: > On Mon, Sep 18, 2017 at 07:46:34AM -0400, Renaud OLGIATI wrote: > > ...I upgrade my Debian Wheezy LTS to Devuan Jessie ? > > > > ...you get a Devuan Jessie? :D > > > What happens then

Re: [DNG] What if...

2017-09-18 Thread Ron
Finally taking the plunge, and upgrading following Dev1fanboy's howto on https://git.devuan.org/dev1fanboy/Upgrade-Install-Devuan/wikis/Upgrade-to-Devuan Cheers, Ron. -- My karma just ran over your dogma. -- http://

Re: [DNG] What if...

2017-09-18 Thread KatolaZ
On Mon, Sep 18, 2017 at 07:46:34AM -0400, Renaud OLGIATI wrote: > ...I upgrade my Debian Wheezy LTS to Devuan Jessie ? > ...you get a Devuan Jessie? :D > What happens then to those packages I need/use which are not in the Devuan > repositories ? Everything that is is Debian Jessie in in Devuan

Re: [DNG] What if...

2017-09-18 Thread Antony Stone
On Monday 18 September 2017 at 12:46:34, Renaud OLGIATI wrote: > ...I upgrade my Debian Wheezy LTS to Devuan Jessie ? It works for me... > What happens then to those packages I need/use which are not in the Devuan > repositories ? They will not get upgraded. > Will the older versions still ru

[DNG] What if...

2017-09-18 Thread Ron
...I upgrade my Debian Wheezy LTS to Devuan Jessie ? What happens then to those packages I need/use which are not in the Devuan repositories ? Will the older versions still run ? Or will the upgrade remove them ? Or, if they have no systemd dependencies, can I install the Debian Jessie version

[DNG] what if we simply mirror all non-linux Debian archs (hurd-i386, kfreebsd-amd64 and kfreebsd-i386) "and see what happens?" ; o), was: reportbug default bts

2017-05-14 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Sun, 14 May 2017 20:39:25 +0100, KatolaZ wrote in message <20170514193925.gl14...@katolaz.homeunix.net>: > > Nobody has denigrated anybody else :) Several people have simply > reported that your fears might be somehow unjustified, ..hum, /usr/share/doc/radioclk/changelog.Debian.gz puts it:

Re: [Dng] What if systemd infects the kernel?

2015-03-01 Thread Go Linux
On Sun, 3/1/15, Jude Nelson wrote: Subject: Re: [Dng] What if systemd infects the kernel? To: "Gravis" Cc: "dng@lists.dyne.org" Date: Sunday, March 1, 2015, 12:01 AM >> I have been aware of the pending assimilation of systemd into the kernel >> since

Re: [Dng] What if systemd infects the kernel?

2015-02-28 Thread Jude Nelson
> I have been aware of the pending assimilation of systemd into the kernel since Linus dramatically rejected Kay Sievers' code last spring. Recently there has been renewed chatter about the impending doom. But I'm not quite clear how that would affect devuan. Hoping you can help me get a grip on

Re: [Dng] What if systemd infects the kernel?

2015-02-28 Thread Go Linux
On Sat, 2/28/15, Gravis wrote: Subject: Re: [Dng] What if systemd infects the kernel? To: "dng@lists.dyne.org" Date: Saturday, February 28, 2015, 10:03 PM >> Why not one response? > > probably because gmail (among other services) is automatically marking > your

Re: [Dng] What if systemd infects the kernel?

2015-02-28 Thread Gravis
> I have been aware of the pending assimilation of systemd into the kernel > since Linus dramatically rejected Kay Sievers' code last spring. a huge reason for it's rejection was it's lack of documentation. this situation hasnt changed much in regard to kdbus. > Recently there has been renewed

Re: [Dng] What if systemd infects the kernel?

2015-02-28 Thread Nate Bargmann
* On 2015 28 Feb 19:09 -0600, Go Linux wrote: > > > Either this is an incredibly stupid question or it's the elephant in > the room. Why not one response? This inquiring mind would like to > know. > > golinux Actually, it's a good question and some

Re: [Dng] What if systemd infects the kernel?

2015-02-28 Thread Go Linux
On Sat, 2/28/15, Go Linux wrote: Subject: What if systemd infects the kernel? To: dng@lists.dyne.org Date: Saturday, February 28, 2015, 1:05 AM I have been aware of the pending assimilation of systemd into the kernel since Linus dramatically rejected Kay Sievers' code last spring. Recently

[Dng] What if systemd infects the kernel?

2015-02-27 Thread Go Linux
I have been aware of the pending assimilation of systemd into the kernel since Linus dramatically rejected Kay Sievers' code last spring. Recently there has been renewed chatter about the impending doom. But I'm not quite clear how that would affect devuan. Hoping you can help me get a grip on