On Sat, Jun 23, 2018 at 06:44:44PM -0400, Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI wrote:
> On Tue, 19 Jun 2018 20:38:11 -0400
> Clarke Sideroad wrote:
>
> > Linux is a big brave step into the unknown, especially if you have no
> > clue as to what hardware is doing the magic. Perhaps some icon that can
> > be cli
On Tue, Jun 19, 2018 at 08:38:11PM -0400, Clarke Sideroad wrote:
> In my neck of the woods in Canada a lot of 64bit capable computers
> came off the store shelves with 32 bit flavours of Microsoft
> Windows.
> This seemed to continue through Win 7, the 8's and I've seen a few
> cheap laptops with t
On Tue, 19 Jun 2018 20:38:11 -0400
Clarke Sideroad wrote:
> Linux is a big brave step into the unknown, especially if you have no
> clue as to what hardware is doing the magic. Perhaps some icon that can
> be clicked to give a hint of the optimum selection as previously
> suggested would help
In my neck of the woods in Canada a lot of 64bit capable computers came
off the store shelves with 32 bit flavours of Microsoft Windows.
This seemed to continue through Win 7, the 8's and I've seen a few cheap
laptops with the 32 bit Windows 10.
I don't know the reasoning, reliability, the devil
On Tue, 19 Jun 2018 23:15:21 -0400, Hendrik wrote in message
<20180620031521.ga15...@topoi.pooq.com>:
> On Mon, Jun 18, 2018 at 02:06:12PM -0400, Clarke Sideroad wrote:
> >
> > As a Linux user for over two decades I don't think twice about
> > adding the applications I want and dumping the ones
On Tue, Jun 19, 2018 at 11:14:37PM +0200, Arnt Karlsen wrote:
> ..also possible to e.g. have i386 installer kernels test the cpu etc
> hardware and go "Hey, your cpu can run the i586 kernel, upgrade?"
Sounds like a great idea!
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⢀⣴⠾⠻⢶⣦⠀ There's an easy way to tell toy operating systems from rea
On Mon, Jun 18, 2018 at 02:06:12PM -0400, Clarke Sideroad wrote:
>
> As a Linux user for over two decades I don't think twice about
> adding the applications I want and dumping the ones I don't,
As a Linux user for over two decades I feel the same way, with one
proviso:
Provided I have a cl
Le 20/06/2018 à 03:07, Steve Litt a écrit :
What tends to leave a lasting impression with me is whether the
desktop environment, its applications and controls feel like a
cooperative, cohesive experience or like a jumble of individual tools
tha
On Tue, 19 Jun 2018 at 19:38:55 +0200
Adam Borowski wrote:
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> The problem is that people are not told why they should away from i386, and
Of course they are, it's all over the Internet.
> when faced with a choice they don't understand they often make a bad
> decision.
Do you mean tha
On Mon, 18 Jun 2018 14:32:31 +0200
Jaromil wrote:
> On Mon, 18 Jun 2018, Simon Hobson wrote:
>
> > And as it happens, I had literally just been looking on Distrowatch
> > where Devuan is up to rank 11 (with 582 hits/day) over the last 7
> > days vs Debian at rank 6 with 1002 hpd. OK, it’s “just
On Tue, 19 Jun 2018 19:38:55 +0200, Adam wrote in message
<20180619173855.ykjkakeavr4h2...@angband.pl>:
..
> The problem is that people are not told why they should away from
> i386, and when faced with a choice they don't understand they often
> make a bad decision.
..easy fix: Tell them! ;o
On 2018-06-18 08:32 AM, Jaromil wrote:
yay. Today also distrowatch has published a pretty realistic review of
our desktop. something to learn there.
The install would have given a more Debian-esque picture if it had been
carried out from other than the "Live" media.
As for the coherence of t
On Tue, Jun 19, 2018 at 07:38:55PM +0200, Adam Borowski wrote:
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> > I remain strongly convinced that maintaining i686 support as long as
> > possible should remain an ongoing objective for Devuan.
>
> For people who actually need it -- I fully agree with you. But for folks on
> amd64-capab
On Tue, Jun 19, 2018 at 05:36:22PM +0200, KatolaZ wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 18, 2018 at 03:41:40PM +0200, Adam Borowski wrote:
> > On Mon, Jun 18, 2018 at 02:11:33PM +0200, KatolaZ wrote:
> > > + amd64: 61%
> > > + i386 24%
> >
> > This is troubling. There's a strong reason to deprecate
On Mon, Jun 18, 2018 at 03:41:40PM +0200, Adam Borowski wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 18, 2018 at 02:11:33PM +0200, KatolaZ wrote:
> > + amd64: 61%
> > + i386 24%
>
> This is troubling. There's a strong reason to deprecate i386, and relegate
> it to a level akin to mips or s390x -- ie, with
Hi again,
Hit send a bit too early :-(
Continuing inline.
Olaf Meeuwissen writes:
> Hi Arnt,
>
> Arnt Karlsen writes:
>
>> On Mon, 18 Jun 2018 13:27:35 +0100, Simon wrote in message
>> <71def11e-d133-4358-b824-46f00dda6...@thehobsons.co.uk>:
>>
>>> And as it happens, I had literally just been lo
Hi Arnt,
Arnt Karlsen writes:
> On Mon, 18 Jun 2018 13:27:35 +0100, Simon wrote in message
> <71def11e-d133-4358-b824-46f00dda6...@thehobsons.co.uk>:
>
>> And as it happens, I had literally just been looking on Distrowatch
>> where Devuan is up to rank 11 (with 582 hits/day) over the last 7
>> da
On Mon, 18 Jun 2018 13:27:35 +0100, Simon wrote in message
<71def11e-d133-4358-b824-46f00dda6...@thehobsons.co.uk>:
> And as it happens, I had literally just been looking on Distrowatch
> where Devuan is up to rank 11 (with 582 hits/day) over the last 7
> days vs Debian at rank 6 with 1002 hpd. O
On 2018-06-18 07:27, Simon Hobson wrote:
And as it happens, I had literally just been looking on Distrowatch
where Devuan is up to rank 11 (with 582 hits/day) over the last 7 days
vs Debian at rank 6 with 1002 hpd. OK.
___
At one point over the weeke
On Mon, 18 Jun 2018 15:48:11 +0200, KatolaZ wrote in message
<20180618134810.asesq5itknxv7...@katolaz.homeunix.net>:
> On Mon, Jun 18, 2018 at 03:09:10PM +0200, Arnt Karlsen wrote:
> > On Mon, 18 Jun 2018 14:11:33 +0200, KatolaZ wrote in message
> > <20180618121133.wqp3olaqp4rvp...@katolaz.homeu
On Mon, Jun 18, 2018 at 03:09:10PM +0200, Arnt Karlsen wrote:
> On Mon, 18 Jun 2018 14:11:33 +0200, KatolaZ wrote in message
> <20180618121133.wqp3olaqp4rvp...@katolaz.homeunix.net>:
>
>
> > - cdrom: 5%
>
> ..of these, we have 2 archs, amd64 and i386, both with cd-1, cd-2 and
> cd-3
On Mon, Jun 18, 2018 at 02:11:33PM +0200, KatolaZ wrote:
> + amd64: 61%
> + i386 24%
This is troubling. There's a strong reason to deprecate i386, and relegate
it to a level akin to mips or s390x -- ie, with security support but
requiring a conscious decision to install. There are
On Mon, 18 Jun 2018 14:11:33 +0200, KatolaZ wrote in message
<20180618121133.wqp3olaqp4rvp...@katolaz.homeunix.net>:
> - cdrom: 5%
..of these, we have 2 archs, amd64 and i386, both with cd-1, cd-2 and
cd-3 (which I didn't DL), which could be set up with 3 different boot
loaders to
On Mon, 18 Jun 2018, Simon Hobson wrote:
> And as it happens, I had literally just been looking on Distrowatch
> where Devuan is up to rank 11 (with 582 hits/day) over the last 7
> days vs Debian at rank 6 with 1002 hpd. OK, it’s “just for fun” and
> not really a measure of installed systems, but
And as it happens, I had literally just been looking on Distrowatch where
Devuan is up to rank 11 (with 582 hits/day) over the last 7 days vs Debian at
rank 6 with 1002 hpd. OK, it’s “just for fun” and not really a measure of
installed systems, but it shows that there’s been steady progress up t
Dear D1rs,
about one week has passed since Devuan 2.0 ASCII Stable was
released. We thought it could have been good to share some stats about
the activity on Devuan file servers since the release was announced:
~185K hits on files.devuan.org
~15K unique visits on files.devuan.org
~3300 imag
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