[DNG] Code of Conduct: Those Ejected should rescind their license grant.

The grant is not supported by consideration. It dispenses only largess, and asks for no recompense. It is a bare license. Thus it can be revoked by the grantor at any time. His act of grace bestowed, and his act of propriety can rescind. The free software world is held up muchly by a gentleman's

Re: [DNG] Better late than never

Hi Alessandro, El 19/09/18 a las 21:36, Alessandro Selli escribió: On 19/09/18 at 20:34, aitor_czr wrote: Hi, El 19/09/18 a las 20:08, J. Fahrner escribió: Am 2018-09-19 14:18, schrieb aitor_czr: From my point of view a suspend/resume should automatically connect to a known network when

Re: [DNG] Fwd: Re: Fwd: Re: GPL version 2 is a bare license. Recind. (Regarding (future) linux Code of Conduct Bannings).

On Wed, Sep 19, 2018 at 10:55:38PM +0300, m712 wrote: > > > On September 19, 2018 8:09:52 PM GMT+03:00, Steve Litt > wrote: > >Long observation of > >people resenting CoCs is they want the right to speak cruelly to > >individuals and speak cruelly about groups of people, those groups > >having

Re: [DNG] catch 22 situation with mate?

Hi guys, in addition to updating mate (most as possible) and cinnamon also work on stability that's why they are not so frequent :) Antonio On 19/09/2018 18:26, KatolaZ wrote: On Wed, Sep 19, 2018 at 11:48:54AM -0500, goli...@dyne.org wrote: [cut] Our Mate re

Re: [DNG] Fwd: Re: Fwd: Re: GPL version 2 is a bare license. Recind. (Regarding (future) linux Code of Conduct Bannings).

On September 19, 2018 8:09:52 PM GMT+03:00, Steve Litt wrote: >Long observation of >people resenting CoCs is they want the right to speak cruelly to >individuals and speak cruelly about groups of people, those groups >having nothing to do with the list's core foundation (Linux sans >systemd, i

Re: [DNG] Better late than never

On 19/09/18 at 20:34, aitor_czr wrote: > Hi, > > El 19/09/18 a las 20:08, J. Fahrner escribió: >> >> Am 2018-09-19 14:18, schrieb aitor_czr: >> >>> From my point of view a suspend/resume should automatically connect >>> to a known network when it wakes up, just as a reboot does. Antony. >>> >>> >>

Re: [DNG] Better late than never

Am 2018-09-19 20:34, schrieb aitor_czr: > Try to connect to a concrete wifi without the conviction about its existence? > Mmm..., sorry but it makes little sense... When it's non existent, scanning is ok. But if it is, scanning is obsolete.___ Dng mail

Re: [DNG] Fwd: Re: Fwd: Re: GPL version 2 is a bare license. Recind. (Regarding (future) linux Code of Conduct Bannings).

Quoting observerofaffa...@redchan.it (observerofaffa...@redchan.it): > To: linux-ker...@vger.kernel.org > Cc: dng@lists.dyne.org, debian-u...@lists.debian.org Dear listadmins (and assembled): I've found as a Mailman listadmin that subscriber misbehaviour like the above can be curbed by going i

Re: [DNG] Better late than never

Hi, El 19/09/18 a las 20:08, J. Fahrner escribió: Am 2018-09-19 14:18, schrieb aitor_czr: From my point of view a suspend/resume should automatically connect to a known network when it wakes up, just as a reboot does. Antony. This will be easy to do; automatically connect to an available

Re: [DNG] Better late than never

Am 2018-09-19 14:18, schrieb aitor_czr: > From my point of view a suspend/resume should automatically connect to a > known network when it wakes up, just as a reboot does. Antony. > This will be easy to do; automatically connect to an available installed wifi > after suspend/reboot. > The only

Re: [DNG] [ASCII][PATCH] startx to a new tty

Steve Litt il 18-09-18 00:29:59 ha scritto: > Your idea merits more research. The "we must cover every corner case" > crowd can use startx in its Redhat-diminished state, while people like > us use a <20 line shellscript. Perhaps call it viverna. I call it "ax" (acronym for Avvia (italian word for

Re: [DNG] catch 22 situation with mate?

On Wed, Sep 19, 2018 at 11:48:54AM -0500, goli...@dyne.org wrote: [cut] > > Our Mate repos already come from Hezeh. I guess AntoFox just doesn't have > time to update the Devuan repos regularly. > Sorry to correct you golinux, but actually they are not. AntoFox has done a great great work on

Re: [DNG] Fwd: Re: Fwd: Re: GPL version 2 is a bare license. Recind. (Regarding (future) linux Code of Conduct Bannings).

Sorry. I would not have replied if I understood who that was. On Wed, Sep 19, 2018, 7:10 PM Steve Litt wrote: > On Wed, 19 Sep 2018 15:33:58 + > observerofaffa...@redchan.it wrote: > > > The CoC will lead only to infighting amongst the contributors, with > > this new weapon wielded firmly in

Re: [DNG] Fwd: Re: Fwd: Re: GPL version 2 is a bare license. Recind. (Regarding (future) linux Code of Conduct Bannings).

On Wed, 19 Sep 2018 15:33:58 + observerofaffa...@redchan.it wrote: > The CoC will lead only to infighting amongst the contributors, with > this new weapon wielded firmly in all participants hands. You've made your point. Now stop it. The remedies you suggest, if they could even be legally don

Re: [DNG] Fwd: Re: Fwd: Re: GPL version 2 is a bare license. Recind. (Regarding (future) linux Code of Conduct Bannings).

On 19/09/2018 16:33, observerofaffa...@redchan.it wrote: > The CoC will lead only to infighting amongst the contributors, with > this new weapon wielded firmly in all participants hands. > > It is another example of "looking the gift horse in the mouth" > (Linus telling everyone to [fsck] off is th

Re: [DNG] catch 22 situation with mate?

Original Message Subject: Re: [DNG] catch 22 situation with mate? Date: 2018-09-19 11:47 From: goli...@dyne.org To: m712 On 2018-09-19 07:11, m712 wrote: On September 14, 2018 4:02:02 AM GMT+03:00, goli...@dyne.org wrote: On 2018-09-13 18:02, Antonio Volpicelli wrote: Hi,

Re: [DNG] Etherape's permissions and Linux Capabilities

On 19/09/18 at 14:07, m712 wrote: > > On September 18, 2018 1:31:56 PM GMT+03:00, Alessandro Selli > wrote: >>   Hello, >> >>     I recently installed etherape 0.9.13-1+b1 and found out it could >> not >> do anything when run as an unprivileged user: >> >> >> Error opening eth0 : eth0: You don't

[DNG] Fwd: Re: Fwd: Re: GPL version 2 is a bare license. Recind. (Regarding (future) linux Code of Conduct Bannings).

The CoC will lead only to infighting amongst the contributors, with this new weapon wielded firmly in all participants hands. It is another example of "looking the gift horse in the mouth" (Linus telling everyone to [fsck] off is the previous example] and will only be tolerated by the hirelings.

[DNG] Fwd: Re: Fwd: Re: GPL version 2 is a bare license. Recind. (Regarding (future) linux Code of Conduct Bannings).

It would depend on the communications made by the copyright holder, or ratifications made by him (if any). Estopple arises when a grantee relys on the grantors' communication that he will not rescind, and the grantor takes an action based on that communication. The clause in version 3 of the G

[DNG] Raspberry Pi 3B+ and Devuan blues....

It worked, and it worked great! But, I will be sincere, I de-pulsed the installation by removing all pulseaudio components with which the sound was marred with clicking sounds. Thanks to all those who willingly donated some of their time to reply, and also, thanks to the Devuaneers who made the im

Re: [DNG] gtk2 vs 3

El 19/09/18 a las 14:56, aitor_czr escribió: Hi Hendrik, El 18/09/18 a las 15:23, Hendrik Boom escribió: On Fri, Sep 07, 2018 at 11:17:26AM +0200, aitor_czr wrote: I spent a lot of time downgrading the frontend from Gtk3 to Gtk2, because of the general preference in favor of this second one.

Re: [DNG] gtk2 vs 3

Hi Hendrik, El 18/09/18 a las 15:23, Hendrik Boom escribió: On Fri, Sep 07, 2018 at 11:17:26AM +0200, aitor_czr wrote: I spent a lot of time downgrading the frontend from Gtk3 to Gtk2, because of the general preference in favor of this second one. The packages for jessie will be available in a

Re: [DNG] Better late than never

El 19/09/18 a las 14:18, aitor_czr escribió: Hi, El 19/09/18 a las 14:07, Antony Stone escribió: On Wednesday 19 September 2018 at 13:01:44, m712 wrote: I'd prefer for it to reconnect, but only to known networks, of course. That way I can read news in the morning at home, close the lid, go

Re: [DNG] Better late than never

You can just scan when the GUI's open. Maybe make a timeout after which netaid stops searching for a known network after boot/resume (user-configurable)? This way we have error-tolerance too. On September 19, 2018 3:18:01 PM GMT+03:00, aitor_czr wrote: >Hi, > >El 19/09/18 a las 14:07, Antony S

Re: [DNG] Better late than never

Hi, El 19/09/18 a las 14:07, Antony Stone escribió: On Wednesday 19 September 2018 at 13:01:44, m712 wrote: I'd prefer for it to reconnect, but only to known networks, of course. That way I can read news in the morning at home, close the lid, go to work and start working without fiddling with

Re: [DNG] Better late than never

Am 2018-09-19 14:07, schrieb Antony Stone: From my point of view a suspend/resume should automatically connect to a known network when it wakes up, just as a reboot does. Exactyly my needs also. This is why I prefer wicd. But wicd has one disadvantage: it takes a long time to reconnect. Looks

Re: [DNG] firefox-esr: no sound after dist-upgrade [solution]

On September 14, 2018 10:56:15 AM GMT+03:00, "Dr. Nikolaus Klepp" wrote: >Am Freitag, 14. September 2018 schrieb Dr. Nikolaus Klepp: >> Am Donnerstag, 13. September 2018 schrieb goli...@dyne.org: >> > On 2018-09-13 14:08, Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote: >> > > Hi all! >> > > >> > > I just did a dist

Re: [DNG] catch 22 situation with mate?

On September 14, 2018 4:02:02 AM GMT+03:00, goli...@dyne.org wrote: >On 2018-09-13 18:02, Antonio Volpicelli wrote: >> Hi, >> Try this: >> >> http://hezeh.org/mate-desktop-on-devuan-ascii/ >> >> _Inviato con LG Mobile_ >> >> > >Why is that not available via the Devuan repos? > >golinux >_

Re: [DNG] Etherape's permissions and Linux Capabilities

On September 18, 2018 1:31:56 PM GMT+03:00, Alessandro Selli wrote: >  Hello, > >    I recently installed etherape 0.9.13-1+b1 and found out it could >not >do anything when run as an unprivileged user: > > >Error opening eth0 : eth0: You don't have permission to capture on that >device (socket:

Re: [DNG] Better late than never

On Wednesday 19 September 2018 at 13:01:44, m712 wrote: > I'd prefer for it to reconnect, but only to known networks, of course. That > way I can read news in the morning at home, close the lid, go to work and > start working without fiddling with the network settings. From my point of view a sus

Re: [DNG] Better late than never

Am 2018-09-19 13:19, schrieb Hendrik Boom: Do we even want to automatically reconnect after a suspend/resume? We might be resuming in a vastly different environment from where we suspended. I use my notebooks mainly at home. When I finished reading mails and news I close the lid until I need

Re: [DNG] Better late than never

On September 18, 2018 1:34:39 PM GMT+03:00, Edward Bartolo wrote: >Quote: > >The aim of MY simple-netaid IS NOT to enrich my CV. I did it for the >project. It seems a selfish self-centred motivation is more >appreciated here. Edward, this behaviour is really uncalled for. If you have a problem

Re: [DNG] Better late than never

I'd prefer for it to reconnect, but only to known networks, of course. That way I can read news in the morning at home, close the lid, go to work and start working without fiddling with the network settings. On September 19, 2018 2:19:05 PM GMT+03:00, Hendrik Boom wrote: >On Wed, Sep 19, 2018

Re: [DNG] Better late than never

On Wed, Sep 19, 2018 at 08:13:24AM +0200, aitor_czr wrote: > Hi, > > El 19/09/18 a las 07:55, J. Fahrner escribió: > > > > Am 2018-09-18 11:37, schrieb aitor_czr: > > > > > Thanks for your interest on simple-netaid :) > > > > > Does simple-netaid not automatically reconnect after suspend/resume

Re: [DNG] Raspberry Pi 3B+ and Devuan blues....

On Wed, Sep 19, 2018 at 9:17 AM, Edward Bartolo wrote: > Alsamixer is only showing one > control, PCM. I am struggling to make it display all controls not just > one. It seems the Pi image is heavily infected with pulseaudio, > something I want to rid myself of. I uninstalled all packages with a

[DNG] Raspberry Pi 3B+ and Devuan blues....

lsblk listed two devices. Therefore, I was wrong. I was expecting to have the boot Micro SD Card detected as sda and the USB stick as sdb! Nevertheless, this is not the end of my troubles trying to make my Pi 3B+ see reason and play sound files. Alsamixer is only showing one control, PCM. I am str