On Wed, Sep 19, 2018 at 10:55:38PM +0300, m712 wrote: > > > On September 19, 2018 8:09:52 PM GMT+03:00, Steve Litt > <sl...@troubleshooters.com> wrote: > >Long observation of > >people resenting CoCs is they want the right to speak cruelly to > >individuals and speak cruelly about groups of people, those groups > >having nothing to do with the list's core foundation (Linux sans > >systemd, in our case). > Sorry, Steve, that's intellectually dishonest. You're painting a > black-and-white picture of "if people oppose CoCs then they must want to do > things not allowed by the CoCs", however in all instances I have encountered > where the need for a CoC was disputed I have seen the exact opposite. You do > not need a CoC to protect people from bad words, and people who are > contributing nothing but insults are quickly killfiled. CoCs do nothing but > introduce filibustering in between contributors. The previous "Code of > Conflict" was entirely adequate. The creator of the Contributor Covenant has > written a "Post-Meritocracy Manifesto"[1] which describes meritocracies as > "benefit[ing] those with privilege", aka social justice bullshit. The Linux > kernel community /depends/ on a meritocracy, and this is absurd.
The Linux kernel community, as any coding community, is based on people that do things together, share common goals and principles, trust each other, and produce actual code. Social science is very good for discussing about the plus and minus of a community, which behaviours are good or bad, which things could be done in order for the community to become more like this or more like that. But social science alone does not deliver code. And code is what your computer needs to run. You can argue as much as you want with your wifi card, or even yell at it in rage, but that won't convince it to work without a proper device driver for your OS. That driver needs a hacker to be written. I know that what I say is harsh, and that many people might feel offended by that, but honestly most of the people I have heard talking about CoCs and post-meritocracy so far are those who have no clue of how a large (or even a small) piece of software is put together. There are obviously exceptions, but are not many, unfortunately. The Linux kernel is available to billions of people only thanks to a bunch of damn good hackers, who have collectively produced code worth millions of man-months without the need of a silly CoC or of a post-meritocracy manifesto. IMHO, the only "privilege" they have enjoyed is to have produced something useful for a lot of people. Sadly, most of us can only dream about that. My2Cents KatolaZ -- [ ~.,_ Enzo Nicosia aka KatolaZ - Devuan -- Freaknet Medialab ] [ "+. katolaz [at] freaknet.org --- katolaz [at] yahoo.it ] [ @) http://kalos.mine.nu --- Devuan GNU + Linux User ] [ @@) http://maths.qmul.ac.uk/~vnicosia -- GPG: 0B5F062F ] [ (@@@) Twitter: @KatolaZ - skype: katolaz -- github: KatolaZ ]
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