Re: [DNG] Debian 8 Jessie can be installed without systemd.

2016-05-30 Thread Jaromil
dear Edward, On Tue, 31 May 2016, Edward Bartolo wrote: > I have just been informed Debian 8 (Jessie) can be installed without > systemd by using the command: preseed/late_command="in-target > apt-get install -y sysvinit-core" interesting that this is still the default and hypocritical answer

[DNG] Debian 8 Jessie can be installed without systemd.

2016-05-30 Thread Edward Bartolo
Hi All, I have just been informed Debian 8 (Jessie) can be installed without systemd by using the command: preseed/late_command="in-target apt-get install -y sysvinit-core" URL: https://debiantalk.wordpress.com/2015/10/04/you-can-install-debian-8-without-systemd/ Edward

[DNG] (no subject)

2016-05-30 Thread Edward Bartolo
Hi All, I have just been informed Debian 8 (Jessie) can be installed without systemd by using the command: preseed/late_command="in-target apt-get install -y sysvinit-core" URL: https://debiantalk.wordpress.com/2015/10/04/you-can-install-debian-8-without-systemd/ Edward

[DNG] On the subject of GRSecurity patch to the Linux Kernel.

2016-05-30 Thread concernedfossdev
GRsecurity is preventing others from employing their rights under version 2 the GPL to redistribute (by threatening them with a non-renewal of a contract to recive this patch to the linux kernel.) (GRsecurity is a derivative work of the linux kernel (it is a patch)) People who have dealt with th

Re: [DNG] Linux-libre-4.5.4

2016-05-30 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Mon, 30 May 2016 20:15:23 +0100, Antonio wrote in message : > On Mon, May 30, 2016 at 6:19 PM, Svante Signell > wrote: > > > On Mon, 2016-05-30 at 17:15 +0200, Jaromil wrote: > > > > > > dear Arnt, > > > > > > On Mon, 30 May 2016, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > ..I should have sai

Re: [DNG] Linux-libre-4.5.4

2016-05-30 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Mon, 30 May 2016 17:15:54 +0200, Jaromil wrote in message <20160530151554.GA19164@reflex>: > > > dear Arnt, > > On Mon, 30 May 2016, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > > > ..this far I'm only aware of political, military, monetary etc > > power/might reasons why these zealots would want to subvert us,

Re: [DNG] using X to set hotkey for taking screen shot

2016-05-30 Thread marc
> Some reasearch indicated that the above commands would not be of any use > and I have so far been unable to find any other suggestions online. The > time has come to ask you guys. What are your thoughts on this? It should be doable using either https://github.com/baskerville/sxhkd or http://welz

Re: [DNG] using X to set hotkey for taking screen shot

2016-05-30 Thread Irrwahn
On Mon, 30 May 2016 20:18:35 +0200, Fuumind wrote: > Hi list! > > Inspired by recent discussions about setxkbmap and xmodmap I asked > myself if it was possible to use X to assign a hotkey for taking a > screenshot (or running any other command) instead of doing it as I do it > now, in my openbox

Re: [DNG] Linux-libre-4.5.4

2016-05-30 Thread Antonio Trkdz.tab
I tried openrc today on a VM ascii install. so far so good. Antonio On Mon, May 30, 2016 at 6:19 PM, Svante Signell wrote: > On Mon, 2016-05-30 at 17:15 +0200, Jaromil wrote: > > > > dear Arnt, > > > > On Mon, 30 May 2016, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > > > > > > > > ..I should have said "packaged into

[DNG] using X to set hotkey for taking screen shot

2016-05-30 Thread fuumind
Hi list! Inspired by recent discussions about setxkbmap and xmodmap I asked myself if it was possible to use X to assign a hotkey for taking a screenshot (or running any other command) instead of doing it as I do it now, in my openbox rc-file. It would be neat to become window manager independent!

Re: [DNG] Linux-libre-4.5.4

2016-05-30 Thread Svante Signell
On Mon, 2016-05-30 at 17:15 +0200, Jaromil wrote: > > dear Arnt, > > On Mon, 30 May 2016, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > > >  > > ..I should have said "packaged into .debs ready for user tests?", > Parazyd is planning to package Openrc. > There is already an openrc package in Debian (which I am co-main

Re: [DNG] Linux-libre-4.5.4

2016-05-30 Thread Jaromil
dear Arnt, On Mon, 30 May 2016, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > ..this far I'm only aware of political, military, monetary etc > power/might reasons why these zealots would want to subvert us, but > I dunno enough on the tech details on how, when and where they would > do that to us. I don't think anyon

Re: [DNG] Linux-libre-4.5.4

2016-05-30 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Mon, 30 May 2016 13:36:43 +0200, Jaromil wrote in message <20160530113643.GB32479@reflex>: > On Sun, 29 May 2016, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > > > > we'd love to have a vdev package, but maintainance of it in > > > Devuan is not yet assigned. please note that vdev is made to run > > > also in parall

Re: [DNG] Request for Removal of slim package from Devuan

2016-05-30 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Mon, 30 May 2016 13:26:03 +0200, Irrwahn wrote in message : > On Mon, 30 May 2016 13:08:21 +0200, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > > On Mon, 30 May 2016 09:51:20 +0100, dev1fanboy wrote in message > > <49f74ba291012d3690f645b43a2f79c0.startm...@www.startmail.com>: > > > >> There's a good reason to keep

Re: [DNG] You might have seen this already...

2016-05-30 Thread BohwaZ
Relevant tmux bug: https://github.com/tmux/tmux/issues/428 Apparently upstream doesn't want to add a dependency upon systemd. Good on them. -- bohwaZ ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

Re: [DNG] lilo

2016-05-30 Thread karl
Jaromil: > On Mon, 30 May 2016, Rainer Weikusat wrote: > > I have no plans to use anything but lilo unless that's a technical > > requirement. It boots. That's all I want from it. ... > is there any possibility that you take up its maintanance, without > adding new features and likely without havin

Re: [DNG] apt-get upgrade does nothing

2016-05-30 Thread Florian Zieboll
On Sun, 29 May 2016 14:48:35 -0400 Steve Litt wrote: > I would assume that when I install off a 1 month old CD image, a lot > of packages would be old and in need of upgrade. Does anyone have any > suggestions? Hallo Steve, I just grepped my latest upgrade log and found some (Devuan Jessie).

Re: [DNG] lilo

2016-05-30 Thread Jaromil
dear Rainer, On Mon, 30 May 2016, Rainer Weikusat wrote: > I have no plans to use anything but lilo unless that's a technical > requirement. It boots. That's all I want from it. having dealt with it recently, what is your opinion on the current state of Lilo code? is there any possibility that

Re: [DNG] Linux-libre-4.5.4

2016-05-30 Thread Jaromil
On Sun, 29 May 2016, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > > we'd love to have a vdev package, but maintainance of it in Devuan is > > not yet assigned. please note that vdev is made to run also in > > parallel with udev and it should not disturb its functioning, so > > testing should be fairly easy. > > ..eerie

Re: [DNG] Request for Removal of slim package from Devuan

2016-05-30 Thread Irrwahn
On Mon, 30 May 2016 13:08:21 +0200, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > On Mon, 30 May 2016 09:51:20 +0100, dev1fanboy wrote in message > <49f74ba291012d3690f645b43a2f79c0.startm...@www.startmail.com>: > >> There's a good reason to keep things around too, in that you cannot >> be forced into a lock-in style up

Re: [DNG] lilo

2016-05-30 Thread Rainer Weikusat
Hendrik Boom writes: > On Sun, May 29, 2016 at 08:37:08PM +0100, dev1fanboy wrote: >> >> Also worth pointing out that lilo is without an upstream maintainer >> as of recently. > > I'm happily using lilo to boot my server. JFTR: I've recently (last week) added a lilo-fork to the numerous other m

Re: [DNG] Request for Removal of slim package from Devuan

2016-05-30 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Mon, 30 May 2016 09:51:20 +0100, dev1fanboy wrote in message <49f74ba291012d3690f645b43a2f79c0.startm...@www.startmail.com>: > There's a good reason to keep things around too, in that you cannot > be forced into a lock-in style upgrade. ..aye, and I see there may be a new bug-fix build coming

Re: [DNG] You might have seen this already...

2016-05-30 Thread Didier Kryn
Le 29/05/2016 18:11, Rainer Weikusat a écrit : "Never attribute to malice what could equally well be explained by mere stupidity" Stupidity is what saves humanity from the few people or organizations who have gained excessive power. It is one of the most necessary human qualities - u

Re: [DNG] Request for Removal of slim package from Devuan

2016-05-30 Thread dev1fanboy
There's a good reason to keep things around too, in that you cannot be forced into a lock-in style upgrade. Cheers, chillfan On Sunday, May 29, 2016 10:35 PM, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > On Sun, 29 May 2016 20:37:08 +0100, dev1fanboy wrote in message > : > >> To add my two cents.. >> >> Since it's

Re: [DNG] Request for Removal of slim package from Devuan

2016-05-30 Thread dev1fanboy
Nice one, I'd say it's worth keeping around for a while as it doesn't have any gnomish dependencies. Cheers, chillfan On Monday, May 30, 2016 12:01 AM, Daniel Reurich wrote: > On 30/05/16 07:37, dev1fanboy wrote: >> To add my two cents.. >> >> Since it's an important package, maybe it's wo