Re: [DNG] What can be improved in this Makefile?

2016-03-21 Thread Edward Bartolo
Hi Rainer, Thanks for trying to help me. Rainer wrote: --- SRC := src TMP := tmp SRCS := auxiliaries.c signal_functions.c main_gui.c dialog_gui.c sn-lightweight.c OBJS := $(addprefix $(TMP)/, $(SRCS:.c=.o)) sn-lightweight: $(OBJS) $(CC) $(GTK2FLAGS) -o $@ $^

Re: [DNG] On the wisdom on netboot installer images

2016-03-21 Thread Boruch Baum
On 03/21/2016 09:50 PM, Adam Borowski wrote: > On Mon, Mar 21, 2016 at 05:19:33PM -0400, Boruch Baum wrote: >> 1] For a day-to-day changing alpha release it makes plenty of sense to >> keep the initial download as small as possible, since so much is >> expected to change as part of the development

Re: [DNG] On the wisdom on netboot installer images

2016-03-21 Thread Adam Borowski
On Mon, Mar 21, 2016 at 05:19:33PM -0400, Boruch Baum wrote: > 1] For a day-to-day changing alpha release it makes plenty of sense to > keep the initial download as small as possible, since so much is > expected to change as part of the development process. > > 2] OTOH, a developer wants to encour

Re: [DNG] On the wisdom on netboot installer images

2016-03-21 Thread Boruch Baum
On 03/21/2016 09:02 PM, Hendrik Boom wrote: > On Mon, Mar 21, 2016 at 05:19:33PM -0400, Boruch Baum wrote: >> >> 3] One complicated solution would be to not destroy >> /var/cache/apt/archive on the target when re-installing. It could be >> done by having the installer suggest to mount that folder o

Re: [DNG] On the wisdom on netboot installer images

2016-03-21 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Mon, Mar 21, 2016 at 05:19:33PM -0400, Boruch Baum wrote: > > 3] One complicated solution would be to not destroy > /var/cache/apt/archive on the target when re-installing. It could be > done by having the installer suggest to mount that folder on its own > partition, and then have the installe

[DNG] Devuan grub files

2016-03-21 Thread Boruch Baum
The devuan grub package contains debian-ized files: 1] /etc/grub.d/05_debian_theme This file could be renamed devuan_theme, but some of the current content would need to be changed or removed. It currently includes a case statement for "Tanglu|Ubuntu|Kubuntu", which isn't necessary, and the remai

Re: [DNG] On the wisdom on netboot installer images

2016-03-21 Thread KatolaZ
On Mon, Mar 21, 2016 at 06:34:26PM -0400, Boruch Baum wrote: [cut] > > Of course you're right, for one half of what I was discussing. But you > do want people to be testing not just the install, but also the release, > don't you? That WILL require downloading an entire release in order to > chec

Re: [DNG] On the wisdom on netboot installer images

2016-03-21 Thread Rainer Weikusat
Boruch Baum writes: > On 03/21/2016 06:19 PM, Rainer Weikusat wrote: >> Boruch Baum writes: >>> 1] For a day-to-day changing alpha release it makes plenty of sense to >>> keep the initial download as small as possible, since so much is >>> expected to change as part of the development process. >>

Re: [DNG] On the wisdom on netboot installer images

2016-03-21 Thread Boruch Baum
On 03/21/2016 06:19 PM, Rainer Weikusat wrote: > Boruch Baum writes: >> 1] For a day-to-day changing alpha release it makes plenty of sense to >> keep the initial download as small as possible, since so much is >> expected to change as part of the development process. >> >> 2] OTOH, a developer wa

Re: [DNG] On the wisdom on netboot installer images

2016-03-21 Thread Rainer Weikusat
Boruch Baum writes: > 1] For a day-to-day changing alpha release it makes plenty of sense to > keep the initial download as small as possible, since so much is > expected to change as part of the development process. > > 2] OTOH, a developer wants to encourage people to test the install and > the

[DNG] installer suggests wrong conclusion in network connect failure

2016-03-21 Thread Boruch Baum
This is another documentation issue in the text of the installer, this time the message returned upon failure to connect to the network. The message (in my case erroneously) jumps to the conclusion that the network 'probably isn't using DHCP'. That's bound to confuse people most prone to confusion

[DNG] Installer choices of timezone

2016-03-21 Thread Boruch Baum
I installed devuan today while in the USA, and was properly prompted for a selection of USA timezones. That starts out as a good feature, as many other installers just offer all timezones. However, the devuan subset wasn't labeled in conformance with the names of the IANA tzdata database[1], which

Re: [DNG] Installer 'Firmware' partition

2016-03-21 Thread Boruch Baum
On 03/21/2016 05:04 PM, Go Linux wrote: > On Mon, 3/21/16, Boruch Baum wrote: > > Subject: [DNG] Installer 'Firmware' partition > To: dng@lists.dyne.org > Date: Monday, March 21, 2016, 3:51 PM > >> >> This is another nice touch in the installer, and its a shame that its >> insufficiently do

Re: [DNG] What can be improved in this Makefile?

2016-03-21 Thread Rainer Weikusat
Rainer Weikusat writes: [...] > $(TMP)/%.o: $(SRC)/%.c > $(CC) $(CFLAGS) -o $@ $< A -c is needed with this command to request that the compile just compiles the source file in question without also trying to link it. ___ Dng mailing list Dng@li

Re: [DNG] installer messes up swap partition on multi-boot

2016-03-21 Thread Boruch Baum
Bad suggestion, Adam. I don't know that the debian installer acts that way. The issue is that the devuan installer is deciding on its own to re-format an existing swap partition. On 03/21/2016 05:17 PM, Adam Borowski wrote: > On Mon, Mar 21, 2016 at 04:29:47PM -0400, Boruch Baum wrote: >> On today

[DNG] On the wisdom on netboot installer images

2016-03-21 Thread Boruch Baum
1] For a day-to-day changing alpha release it makes plenty of sense to keep the initial download as small as possible, since so much is expected to change as part of the development process. 2] OTOH, a developer wants to encourage people to test the install and the release often, so it makes sense

Re: [DNG] installer messes up swap partition on multi-boot

2016-03-21 Thread Adam Borowski
On Mon, Mar 21, 2016 at 04:29:47PM -0400, Boruch Baum wrote: > On today's install device, I had a pre-existing linux with a swap > partition on the disk, and the partitioner insisted on re-formatting it. > This is BAD. It changes the UUID of the swap partition, which messes up > the other operating

Re: [DNG] Installer 'Firmware' partition

2016-03-21 Thread Go Linux
On Mon, 3/21/16, Boruch Baum wrote: Subject: [DNG] Installer 'Firmware' partition To: dng@lists.dyne.org Date: Monday, March 21, 2016, 3:51 PM > > This is another nice touch in the installer, and its a shame that its > insufficiently documented, so I'd like to suggest that some text be > ad

Re: [DNG] What can be improved in this Makefile?

2016-03-21 Thread Rainer Weikusat
Edward Bartolo writes: > Here is my Makefile for sn-lightweight (simple-netaid-lightweight): > > CC=gcc > SRCPATH=./src > CFLAGS=-Iinclude > GTK2FLAGS=`pkg-config --libs --cflags gtk+-2.0` > D=src/ > SOURCEFILES=$(D)auxil

Re: [DNG] minor packaging quibbles in devuan cli

2016-03-21 Thread Adam Borowski
On Mon, Mar 21, 2016 at 04:21:15PM -0400, Boruch Baum wrote: > Two minor annoyance issues, and one curiosity, in today's install of > devuan-cli: > > 1] sudo is not installed by default Why should it be? It's a package of priority "optional"; only those of "important" and usually (unless you unc

Re: [DNG] minor packaging quibbles in devuan cli

2016-03-21 Thread Go Linux
On Mon, 3/21/16, Boruch Baum wrote: Subject: [DNG] minor packaging quibbles in devuan cli To: dng@lists.dyne.org Date: Monday, March 21, 2016, 3:21 PM Two minor annoyance issues, and one curiosity, in today's install of devuan-cli: 1] sudo is not installed by default -

[DNG] installer suggests "debian" mirrors

2016-03-21 Thread Boruch Baum
This is just a typo in the installer, but the kind of typo that would make users and cynics snicker: the mirror selection remark says 'usually ftp...debian.org is a good choice'. I reported this also in the alph2 installer a few months back. -- hkp://keys.gnupg.net CA45 09B5 5351 7C11 A9D1 7286

[DNG] Installer 'Firmware' partition

2016-03-21 Thread Boruch Baum
This is another nice touch in the installer, and its a shame that its insufficiently documented, so I'd like to suggest that some text be added to an installer window to let users know. When the installer performs 'detect network hardware' and detects non-free firmware, it goes the extra mile and

[DNG] installer debug logs

2016-03-21 Thread Boruch Baum
I thought this was a very nice touch, to have in the installer, so I tried it! Time to quibble: 1] The feature lacks instructions, which would be an obstacle for it to be performed by those who probably would most want to perform it - the least experienced users. 2] I was expecting the obvious o

[DNG] What can be improved in this Makefile?

2016-03-21 Thread Edward Bartolo
Hi, Here is my Makefile for sn-lightweight (simple-netaid-lightweight): CC=gcc SRCPATH=./src CFLAGS=-Iinclude GTK2FLAGS=`pkg-config --libs --cflags gtk+-2.0` D=src/ SOURCEFILES=$(D)auxiliaries.c $(D)signal_functions.c $(D

Re: [DNG] minor packaging quibbles in devuan cli

2016-03-21 Thread Mitt Green
Boruch Baum wrote: > Two minor annoyance issues, > and one curiosity, in today's install of > devuan-cli: [...] > 1] sudo is not installed by default ‎ Last time I installed Debian (it was Wheezy probably a year ago), I didn't see sudo in the default Xfce installation. I suppose, 'tis still not

[DNG] installer messes up swap partition on multi-boot

2016-03-21 Thread Boruch Baum
On today's install device, I had a pre-existing linux with a swap partition on the disk, and the partitioner insisted on re-formatting it. This is BAD. It changes the UUID of the swap partition, which messes up the other operating systems on the device, because the recent 'best practice' has been t

[DNG] minor packaging quibbles in devuan cli

2016-03-21 Thread Boruch Baum
Two minor annoyance issues, and one curiosity, in today's install of devuan-cli: 1] sudo is not installed by default 2] Even though the installer asked me my brand of English, it installed a second spelling dictionary, 'ibritish'. 3] Why are both gcc-4.8 and 4.9 installed? -- hkp://keys.gnupg.

[DNG] surprising packages in devuan cli install

2016-03-21 Thread Boruch Baum
I just installed devuan, without a desktop, yet I ended up with over 35 packages installed that are X11 related. After some tracing, I see that this is the same issue that I reported a few months ago: the default install for a no-X devuan in choosing package 'pinentry-gtk2' instead of 'pinentry-cur

Re: [DNG] Read the news! UbuntuBSD

2016-03-21 Thread Rainer Weikusat
Marlon Nunes writes: > On 2016-03-21 11:39, Rainer Weikusat wrote: >> Marlon Nunes writes: >>> On 2016-03-21 09:19, Marlon Nunes wrote: http://news.softpedia.com/news/meet-ubuntubsd-unix-for-human-beings-501959.shtml https://sourceforge.net/projects/ubuntubsd/ https://bsd.slashdot.

Re: [DNG] Insufficient signing of repositories

2016-03-21 Thread Daniel Reurich
On 22/03/16 07:00, Dave Turner wrote: > On 21/03/16 17:46, Mitt Green wrote: >> From the latest "apt update": >> >> -- >> W: >> gpgv:/var/lib/apt/lists/archive.getdeb.net_ubuntu_dists_wily-getdeb_InRelease: >> The repository is insufficiently signed by key >> 1958A549614

Re: [DNG] Insufficient signing of repositories

2016-03-21 Thread Dave Turner
On 21/03/16 17:46, Mitt Green wrote: From the latest "apt update": -- W: gpgv:/var/lib/apt/lists/archive.getdeb.net_ubuntu_dists_wily-getdeb_InRelease: The repository is insufficiently signed by key 1958A549614CE21CFC27F4BAA8A515F046D7E7CF (weak digest) W: gpgv:/v

[DNG] Insufficient signing of repositories

2016-03-21 Thread Mitt Green
From the latest "apt update": -- W: gpgv:/var/lib/apt/lists/archive.getdeb.net_ubuntu_dists_wily-getdeb_InRelease: The repository is insufficiently signed by key 1958A549614CE21CFC27F4BAA8A515F046D7E7CF (weak digest) W: gpgv:/var/lib/apt/lists/packages.devuan.org_m

Re: [DNG] Read the news! UbuntuBSD

2016-03-21 Thread Dave Turner
On 21/03/16 13:35, Go Linux wrote: On Mon, 3/21/16, Marlon Nunes wrote: Subject: [DNG] Read the news! UbuntuBSD To: dng@lists.dyne.org Date: Monday, March 21, 2016, 7:19 AM http://news.softpedia.com/news/meet-ubuntubsd-unix-for-human-beings-501959.shtml https://sourceforge.net/pro

Re: [DNG] Read the news! UbuntuBSD

2016-03-21 Thread Adam Borowski
On Fri, Mar 18, 2016 at 08:52:51PM +0100, aitor_czr wrote: > To my knowledge, systemd works only for Linux, and kFreeBSD desappeared from > the stable branch of debian. But i just found GNU/kFreeFSD images of debian > in the testing branch: > > Is systemd spreading to other kernels, or is systemd

Re: [DNG] Read the news! UbuntuBSD

2016-03-21 Thread aitor_czr
On 03/21/16 16:04, Svante Signell wrote: It's a shame that Debian GNU/kFreeBSD is no longer an official architecture of Debian. Even more interesting that Ubuntu is taking it up: Maybe they can make that distribution take off. Debian definitely has failed. Hopefully soon GNU/Hurd will be suppor

Re: [DNG] Packaging Vdev

2016-03-21 Thread shraptor
On 2016-03-21 16:04, shraptor wrote: On 2016-03-20 20:57, Didier Kryn wrote: Le 20/03/2016 19:14, shraptor a écrit : I expect Jude has tested his last version and I suspect he did it with the files under /usr/local and it worked. On my side, I tested it under the FHS but with a different OS

Re: [DNG] Packaging Vdev

2016-03-21 Thread shraptor
On 2016-03-20 20:57, Didier Kryn wrote: Le 20/03/2016 19:14, shraptor a écrit : I expect Jude has tested his last version and I suspect he did it with the files under /usr/local and it worked. On my side, I tested it under the FHS but with a different OS and it failed. I dunno where the err

Re: [DNG] Read the news! UbuntuBSD

2016-03-21 Thread Marlon Nunes
On 2016-03-21 11:39, Rainer Weikusat wrote: Marlon Nunes writes: On 2016-03-21 09:19, Marlon Nunes wrote: http://news.softpedia.com/news/meet-ubuntubsd-unix-for-human-beings-501959.shtml https://sourceforge.net/projects/ubuntubsd/ https://bsd.slashdot.org/story/16/03/21/0321213/meet-ubuntubsd-

Re: [DNG] Read the news! UbuntuBSD

2016-03-21 Thread Rainer Weikusat
Marlon Nunes writes: > On 2016-03-21 09:19, Marlon Nunes wrote: >> http://news.softpedia.com/news/meet-ubuntubsd-unix-for-human-beings-501959.shtml >> https://sourceforge.net/projects/ubuntubsd/ >> https://bsd.slashdot.org/story/16/03/21/0321213/meet-ubuntubsd-unix-for-human-beings >> https://asku

Re: [DNG] Read the news! UbuntuBSD

2016-03-21 Thread Go Linux
On Mon, 3/21/16, Marlon Nunes wrote: Subject: [DNG] Read the news! UbuntuBSD To: dng@lists.dyne.org Date: Monday, March 21, 2016, 7:19 AM http://news.softpedia.com/news/meet-ubuntubsd-unix-for-human-beings-501959.shtml https://sourceforge.net/projects/ubuntubsd/ https://bsd.slashdot.org

Re: [DNG] Read the news! UbuntuBSD

2016-03-21 Thread Svante Signell
On Mon, 2016-03-21 at 08:47 -0400, Steve Litt wrote: > On Mon, 21 Mar 2016 09:22:39 -0300 > Marlon Nunes wrote: > > > > > On 2016-03-21 09:19, Marlon Nunes wrote: > > > > > > http://news.softpedia.com/news/meet-ubuntubsd-unix-for-human-beings-501959 > > > .shtml > > > https://sourceforge.net/pr

Re: [DNG] Read the news! UbuntuBSD

2016-03-21 Thread Steve Litt
On Mon, 21 Mar 2016 09:22:39 -0300 Marlon Nunes wrote: > On 2016-03-21 09:19, Marlon Nunes wrote: > > http://news.softpedia.com/news/meet-ubuntubsd-unix-for-human-beings-501959.shtml > > https://sourceforge.net/projects/ubuntubsd/ > > https://bsd.slashdot.org/story/16/03/21/0321213/meet-ubuntubsd

Re: [DNG] Read the news! UbuntuBSD

2016-03-21 Thread Marlon Nunes
On 2016-03-21 09:19, Marlon Nunes wrote: http://news.softpedia.com/news/meet-ubuntubsd-unix-for-human-beings-501959.shtml https://sourceforge.net/projects/ubuntubsd/ https://bsd.slashdot.org/story/16/03/21/0321213/meet-ubuntubsd-unix-for-human-beings https://askubuntu.com/questions/tagged/ubuntub

[DNG] Read the news! UbuntuBSD

2016-03-21 Thread Marlon Nunes
http://news.softpedia.com/news/meet-ubuntubsd-unix-for-human-beings-501959.shtml https://sourceforge.net/projects/ubuntubsd/ https://bsd.slashdot.org/story/16/03/21/0321213/meet-ubuntubsd-unix-for-human-beings https://askubuntu.com/questions/tagged/ubuntubsd -- Stop slacking you lazy bum! ___

Re: [DNG] webmin don't install on devuan

2016-03-21 Thread Alberto Senni
Hi, on Devuan webmin install terminate without install /etc/webmin conf files while on Debian wheezy all is ok any ideas? thanks very much to all Alberto ** initializing cache. This may take a while ** Configurazione di webmin (1.791)... grep: /etc/webmin/miniserv.conf: File o directory