Re: [Dng] X and GPUs

2015-04-04 Thread Gordon Haverland
On Fri, 3 Apr 2015 06:21:32 -0400 Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI wrote: > On Thu, 2 Apr 2015 20:46:13 -0600 > Gordon Haverland wrote: > > > Originally, the reason people bought graphics cards (or better > > graphics cards) was to improve graphics performance. Which to a > > dinosaur like me means X11 an

Re: [Dng] Call for factoids on the Debian fork

2015-04-04 Thread Steve Litt
On Sat, 4 Apr 2015 23:43:24 +0100 KatolaZ wrote: > On Sat, Apr 04, 2015 at 04:36:11PM -0400, Steve Litt wrote: > > [cut] > > > > > The Dng mailing list started in early November, 2014, and quickly > > replaced Modular-Debian as the Go To place for former Debianistas. > > Note the famous and hi

Re: [Dng] Call for factoids on the Debian fork

2015-04-04 Thread KatolaZ
On Sat, Apr 04, 2015 at 04:36:11PM -0400, Steve Litt wrote: [cut] > > The Dng mailing list started in early November, 2014, and quickly > replaced Modular-Debian as the Go To place for former Debianistas. Note > the famous and historical "Don't panic and keep forking Debian™!" post > (https://li

Re: [Dng] Too many man pages, too much complicated : systemd

2015-04-04 Thread Ron
On Sun, 05 Apr 2015 00:11:55 +0200 toto titi wrote: > Nearly as complex as a Microsoft operating system, look at that : > http://www.freedesktop.org/software/systemd/man/ Please, Sir, could we have a registry ? Cheers, Ron. -- No Husband Has Ever Been Shot While Doing The Dishe

Re: [Dng] [OT]I have been liberated!

2015-04-04 Thread KatolaZ
On Sat, Apr 04, 2015 at 10:01:30PM +0200, Anto wrote: [cut] > > I keep my accounts on Debian in case they change their mind in the > future, just like they did before in switching to eglibc and then > went back again to glibc :) > > Oh wait...! What will happen to Devuan if that would happen? >

Re: [Dng] systemd : the perfect Unix philosophy

2015-04-04 Thread toto titi
Sorry, I meant : throw up. Excuse the typo. On 04/05/2015 12:24 AM, toto titi wrote: > I love that one : > > http://www.freedesktop.org/software/systemd/man/systemd.directives.html > > systemd : the perfect Unix philosophy : small, simple, efficient, easy > manageable, ... ;-) > Hmm, sorry, I mu

[Dng] systemd : the perfect Unix philosophy

2015-04-04 Thread toto titi
I love that one : http://www.freedesktop.org/software/systemd/man/systemd.directives.html systemd : the perfect Unix philosophy : small, simple, efficient, easy manageable, ... ;-) Hmm, sorry, I must leave you, I have to go through up ... ___ Dng mai

[Dng] Too many man pages, too much complicated : systemd

2015-04-04 Thread toto titi
Nearly as complex as a Microsoft operating system, look at that : http://www.freedesktop.org/software/systemd/man/ ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

Re: [Dng] Call for factoids on the Debian fork

2015-04-04 Thread Go Linux
On Sat, 4/4/15, Steve Litt wrote: [big cut] > In September 2014, Joel Roth had created a mailing list > called "Modular-Debian", whose archives are at > https://www.freelists.org/archive/modular-debian. > [cut] > > > If anyone knows where to find the Modular-Debian archives, please pos

Re: [Dng] Call for factoids on the Debian fork

2015-04-04 Thread Nuno Magalhães
One thing that has always bugged me was that Debian was supposed to be *the* distro that runs on just about anything from an embedded system to a supercomputer, from an old dumb terminal or mainframe to a fairly recent laptop (well kinda, drivers etc). It was even one of the reasons the default ins

Re: [Dng] Call for factoids on the Debian fork

2015-04-04 Thread Steve Litt
On Fri, 03 Apr 2015 19:56:48 -0300 hellekin wrote: > Hello dears, > > one of the current tasks of the Devuan Editors is to gather facts > about the Debian fork in order to write a compelling story to be told > on debianfork.org. > > This domain will hopefully be the place to deflect and defuse

Re: [Dng] [OT]I have been liberated!

2015-04-04 Thread Steve Litt
On Sat, 04 Apr 2015 22:01:30 +0200 Anto wrote: > I keep my accounts on Debian in case they change their mind in the > future, just like they did before in switching to eglibc and then > went back again to glibc :) > > Oh wait...! What will happen to Devuan if that would happen? I'll answer you

Re: [Dng] [OT]I have been liberated!

2015-04-04 Thread Anto
On 04/04/15 21:49, Steve Litt wrote: On Fri, 3 Apr 2015 09:11:06 -0700 Go Linux wrote: I just unsubscribed from debian-user! It was time to say good-bye and move on . . . ___ Dng mailing list Go Linux, You're s demotivating! Systemd was never

Re: [Dng] [OT]I have been liberated!

2015-04-04 Thread Steve Litt
On Fri, 3 Apr 2015 09:11:06 -0700 Go Linux wrote: > I just unsubscribed from debian-user! It was time to say good-bye > and move on . . . ___ > Dng mailing list Go Linux, You're s demotivating! Systemd was never a problem, it's wonderful, you're

Re: [Dng] Another reason of why I am considering Devuan

2015-04-04 Thread KatolaZ
On Sat, Apr 04, 2015 at 07:32:14AM -0400, Hendrik Boom wrote: [cut] > > OK. Maybe I misspoke. The installer would ask me to choose an > external DNS. It would not take the initiative of offering me to > install my own on my own machine. > > Of course II always did have the option of tracki

Re: [Dng] Another reason of why I am considering Devuan

2015-04-04 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Sat, Apr 04, 2015 at 08:27:00AM +0100, KatolaZ wrote: > On Fri, Apr 03, 2015 at 10:33:28AM -0400, Hendrik Boom wrote: > > [cut] > > > > > If I recall correctly, so far *every* Linux I've used uses an external > > DNS by default instead of installing its own recursor. > > > > I figure there

Re: [Dng] What do you guys think about "Suggest" and "Recommends" dependency?

2015-04-04 Thread KatolaZ
On Fri, Apr 03, 2015 at 09:40:41PM -1000, Joel Roth wrote: [cut] > > Note that for a minimal dependencies default, the options to > apt-get are not ideal. We have these two options related to > the dependency graph. > >--no-install-recommends >Do not consider recommended pac

Re: [Dng] What do you guys think about "Suggest" and "Recommends" dependency?

2015-04-04 Thread Anto
On 04/04/15 09:40, Joel Roth wrote: Note that for a minimal dependencies default, the options to apt-get are not ideal. We have these two options related to the dependency graph. --no-install-recommends Do not consider recommended packages as a dependency for installing.

Re: [Dng] What do you guys think about "Suggest" and "Recommends" dependency?

2015-04-04 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
On Fri 03 April 2015 21:40:41 Joel Roth wrote: > On Sat, Apr 04, 2015 at 08:18:29AM +0100, KatolaZ wrote: > > On Fri, Apr 03, 2015 at 12:36:22AM +0200, Franco Lanza wrote: > > > Personally on debian i was using from date > > > > > > APT:Install-Recommends "0"; > > > APT:Install-Suggests "0"; > > >

Re: [Dng] What do you guys think about "Suggest" and "Recommends" dependency?

2015-04-04 Thread Joel Roth
On Sat, Apr 04, 2015 at 08:18:29AM +0100, KatolaZ wrote: > On Fri, Apr 03, 2015 at 12:36:22AM +0200, Franco Lanza wrote: > > Personally on debian i was using from date > > > > APT:Install-Recommends "0"; > > APT:Install-Suggests "0"; > > > > in all my install apt.conf. > > > > I don't like apt d

Re: [Dng] Another reason of why I am considering Devuan

2015-04-04 Thread KatolaZ
On Fri, Apr 03, 2015 at 10:33:28AM -0400, Hendrik Boom wrote: [cut] > > If I recall correctly, so far *every* Linux I've used uses an external > DNS by default instead of installing its own recursor. > > I figure there must be a reason, but I don't know what it is. > That's wrong, AFAIK. If

Re: [Dng] What do you guys think about "Suggest" and "Recommends" dependency?

2015-04-04 Thread KatolaZ
On Fri, Apr 03, 2015 at 12:36:22AM +0200, Franco Lanza wrote: > Personally on debian i was using from date > > APT:Install-Recommends "0"; > APT:Install-Suggests "0"; > > in all my install apt.conf. > > I don't like apt downloading and installing things that are not required > but just recommend