On 21 February 2015 06:13:29 CET, Jude Nelson wrote:
>Congratulations Dima! This is wonderful news for the future of Devuan!
>
>On Fri, Feb 20, 2015 at 4:44 PM, Dima Krasner
>wrote:
>
>> Hello folks,
>>
>> Good news on the logind front! I got the pre-alpha to play nicely
>with
>> LoginKit inst
Congratulations Dima! This is wonderful news for the future of Devuan!
On Fri, Feb 20, 2015 at 4:44 PM, Dima Krasner wrote:
> Hello folks,
>
> Good news on the logind front! I got the pre-alpha to play nicely with
> LoginKit instead of logind.
>
> http://i.imgur.com/1PTI6L5.png
>
> LoginKit (ht
On Fri, Feb 20, 2015 at 07:09:28PM +, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote:
> On Fri, Feb 20, 2015 at 7:02 PM, Isaac Dunham wrote:
> > On Fri, Feb 20, 2015 at 06:21:27PM +, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
> > wrote:
> >> On Fri, Feb 20, 2015 at 6:04 PM, Isaac Dunham wrote:
> >> > On Fri, Feb
On Fri, Feb 20, 2015 at 09:08:56PM +0100, Godefridus Daalmans wrote:
> About that error with the mdev packaging:
>
> if you purge udev, does that mean you need the old-fashioned /dev/MAKEDEV
> script back to create the device nodes?
>
> it's in Debian package makedev. and it says Conflicts: udev,
On Fri, 2015-02-20 at 14:32 -0500, Gravis wrote:
> > RPC had already been solved in a general way by SunRPC (ONCRPC) before
> either GNOME or KDE existed
>
> interesting I'd never read about those until now. however, there was no
> GPL (compatible?) version for Linux (still isn't?) and the intern
On Fri, 20 Feb 2015 17:06:44 +
David Harrison wrote:
> Perhaps someone from Devuan could approach xfce's core developers and
> confirm they're not about to spot-weld themselves to systemd any time
> soon? They seem approachable enough. I'm happy to ask but as a non-dev
> my question might
Hello folks,
Good news on the logind front! I got the pre-alpha to play nicely with LoginKit
instead of logind.
http://i.imgur.com/1PTI6L5.png
LoginKit (https://git.devuan.org/pkgs-utopia-substitution/loginkit) is an
attempt to develop a shim that provides the parts of logind and libsystemd
r
About that error with the mdev packaging:
if you purge udev, does that mean you need the old-fashioned
/dev/MAKEDEV script back to create the device nodes?
it's in Debian package makedev. and it says Conflicts: udev, but that
doesn't mean it gets re-installed automagically after udev is purge
> RPC had already been solved in a general way by SunRPC (ONCRPC) before
either GNOME or KDE existed
interesting I'd never read about those until now. however, there was no
GPL (compatible?) version for Linux (still isn't?) and the internet didn't
have it's information as organized back then. su
Svante Signell:
>Hurd does also run xfce4 without problems, and don't have anything
>*systemd* installed :)
If i wish to install xfce4 on my mostly stable Gentoo, there is one
package in the dependencies where systemd is mentioned.
hafi@i5_64 ~ $ emerge -p -uDN xfce4-meta
[...]
xfce-base/xfce4-s
On Fri, Feb 20, 2015 at 7:02 PM, Isaac Dunham wrote:
> On Fri, Feb 20, 2015 at 06:21:27PM +, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote:
>> On Fri, Feb 20, 2015 at 6:04 PM, Isaac Dunham wrote:
>> > On Fri, Feb 20, 2015 at 04:30:17PM +, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
>> > wrote:
>>
>> > I should ha
On Fri, Feb 20, 2015 at 06:21:27PM +, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote:
> On Fri, Feb 20, 2015 at 6:04 PM, Isaac Dunham wrote:
> > On Fri, Feb 20, 2015 at 04:30:17PM +, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
> > wrote:
>
> > I should have a fix soon.
>
> awesome.
And pushed.
HTH,
Isaac Dunha
On Fri, 2015-02-20 at 11:36 -0500, william moss wrote:
> On 02/20/2015 09:30 AM, Nate Bargmann wrote:
> > * On 2015 20 Feb 05:55 -0600, Aldemir Akpinar wrote:
> > As a home user of Debian running Xfce and also with a strong hobbyist
> > interest and advocate for Linux systems, I do not wish to be
Nevertheless, RPC had already been solved in a general way by SunRPC
(ONCRPC) before either GNOME or KDE existed. Heck, the earliest versions
predate Linux.
Given the combined functionality offered by PolicyKit/Polkit and dbus, I'm
beginning to think that FreeDesktop has succeeded in re-inventing
On Fri, Feb 20, 2015 at 6:04 PM, Isaac Dunham wrote:
> On Fri, Feb 20, 2015 at 04:30:17PM +, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote:
> I should have a fix soon.
awesome.
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On Fri, Feb 20, 2015 at 12:42:43PM -0500, Gravis wrote:
> > > CDE (common desktop environment)
> > Not familiar with that. Is it related to Inferno?
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Common_Desktop_Environment
That's it. By the way, it does work on Debian (though I'm not sure if the
sysvinit scr
On Fri, Feb 20, 2015 at 12:42:43PM -0500, Gravis wrote:
> > > CDE (common desktop environment)
> > Not familiar with that. Is it related to Inferno?
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Common_Desktop_Environment
>
> now what is "Inferno"?
Long answer:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inferno_(opera
On Fri, Feb 20, 2015 at 04:30:17PM +, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote:
> On Fri, Feb 20, 2015 at 3:57 PM, Isaac Dunham wrote:
> > On Sun, Feb 15, 2015 at 04:27:55PM +, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
> > wrote:
> >> http://lkcl.net/reports/removing_systemd_from_debian/
> >
> > Somehow, th
On Fri, 20 Feb 2015 08:59:33 -0800
Go Linux wrote:
> We all knew this was coming . . .
>
> KDE Will Depend on 'logind' and 'timedated' in 6 Months
>
> https://soylentnews.org/article.pl?sid=15/02/20/101235
This is precisely what I'd expect from the KDE project. They were
specialists in monolit
> > CDE (common desktop environment)
> Not familiar with that. Is it related to Inferno?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Common_Desktop_Environment
now what is "Inferno"?
--Gravis
On Fri, Feb 20, 2015 at 12:06 PM, Hendrik Boom
wrote:
> On Fri, Feb 20, 2015 at 11:36:20AM -0500, william moss wro
hi David,
On Fri, 20 Feb 2015, David Harrison wrote:
> Perhaps someone from Devuan could approach xfce's core developers
> and confirm they're not about to spot-weld themselves to systemd any
> time soon?
good idea, for future orientation
> They seem approachable enough. I'm happy to ask but a
dear Isaac,
On Fri, 20 Feb 2015, Isaac Dunham wrote:
> On Sun, Feb 15, 2015 at 04:27:55PM +, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote:
> > http://lkcl.net/reports/removing_systemd_from_debian/
>
> Somehow, this inspired me to poke at packaging mdev.
> I don't have a website or apt repository atm,
I've dabbled with FreeBSD and OpenIndiana VMs lately: xfce worked just
as well on those as in Linux.
Was doing a little reading yesterday. Apparently a new point release is
imminent, which is good news considering xfce's slow pace of releases
(if not development). The lovely Whisker menu has j
On Fri, Feb 20, 2015 at 11:36:20AM -0500, william moss wrote:
>
> FreeBSD supports XFCE Via its package manager (pkg) or /usr/ports, so it
> must be possible to run XFCE w/o the systemd daemon(s) or shared objects.
>
> Also, I configured server farms for decades (retired now) and a simple
> GUI w
We all knew this was coming . . .
KDE Will Depend on 'logind' and 'timedated' in 6 Months
https://soylentnews.org/article.pl?sid=15/02/20/101235
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isaac i get "cannot stat /etc/modprobe.d/*" when doing the
update-initramfs -u, hope that's ok...
SPLAT :) dozens of "unknown user/group root:root on line 20 ... about
100 of those...
Gave up on ... hang on let me take a screenshot...
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On 02/20/2015 09:30 AM, Nate Bargmann wrote:
> * On 2015 20 Feb 05:55 -0600, Aldemir Akpinar wrote:
>> I would say +1 for everything that is written with this e-mail and above.
>> However, there's one thing here,
>> there are more people running serv
On Fri, Feb 20, 2015 at 3:57 PM, Isaac Dunham wrote:
> On Sun, Feb 15, 2015 at 04:27:55PM +, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote:
>> http://lkcl.net/reports/removing_systemd_from_debian/
>
> Somehow, this inspired me to poke at packaging mdev.
> I don't have a website or apt repository atm, so
On Sun, Feb 15, 2015 at 04:27:55PM +, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote:
> http://lkcl.net/reports/removing_systemd_from_debian/
Somehow, this inspired me to poke at packaging mdev.
I don't have a website or apt repository atm, so I can't provide a deb.
But here's the source in git:
https:
* On 2015 20 Feb 09:03 -0600, Didier Kryn wrote:
> Guys, I don't think there is contradiction between server and
> desktop. There is a difference in the user base and installed
> applications, not in the OS. dbus and udev/eudev/mdev/vdev/ are just
> useful services which make life easier if th
> But I wonder why people have developped dbus instead of using a
ready-made, well-tested, lightweight, language-agnostic middleware? Yes it
exsts; there's at least one, ZeroMQ.
D-Bus has existed for about a decade if not more. As far as I can tell, ZeroMQ
has existed for a few years. Also, D-Bu
Concerning dbus, there is a need for publisher/subscriber communication on
> the desktop. But I wonder why people have developped dbus instead of using
> a ready-made, well-tested, lightweight, language-agnostic middleware? Yes
> it exsts; there's at least one, ZeroMQ.
>
Something something conte
Le 20/02/2015 13:48, Martijn Dekkers a
écrit :
I would say +1 for everything that is written with
this e-mail and above. However, there's one thing
here,
* On 2015 20 Feb 05:55 -0600, Aldemir Akpinar wrote:
> I would say +1 for everything that is written with this e-mail and above.
> However, there's one thing here,
> there are more people running servers than people running linux on their
> desktops, so IMHO devuan should first focus on the servers
> I would say +1 for everything that is written with this e-mail and above.
> However, there's one thing here,
> there are more people running servers than people running linux on their
> desktops, so IMHO devuan should first focus on the servers.
>
I strongly believe that if we manage to pull tog
On 20.02.2015 12:54, Aldemir Akpinar wrote:
>
>
> BTW I think nobody here cares about having Devuan support Gnome.
> The do-it-all DEs,
> those providing their own integrated replacement for every
> application, are, by design,
> opposed to the Nix principles. It is not a
>
> BTW I think nobody here cares about having Devuan support Gnome. The
> do-it-all DEs,
> those providing their own integrated replacement for every application,
> are, by design,
> opposed to the Nix principles. It is not a surprise that systemd and Gnome
> are working
> together.
>
I would
Le 19/02/2015 18:05, John Crisp a écrit :
The short version of this whole thing is that Poettering - and with him,
RedHat - are trying to take the kernel away from Linux Torvalds. They
are doing so by creating another kernel in userland that everything
depends on. Once they have enough stuff jac
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