Hi tamonash.. Not sure if you're still in need of a solution. I just
saw some traffic to my project from this thread...
Anyway, django-tracking does in fact allow you to show who's logged
in. I use it on my own site to show which registered users are logged
in.
On Sep 17, 6:55 am, tamonash <[E
Hi there,
I seem to be having the same problem you are.
Any chance you found a solution?
Cheers,
Josh
On Sep 19, 7:51 am, bfrederi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> @Adam Fast
> I think you are right. I'm not at home, so I can't check for sure, but
> I'm almost posit
I've used jQuery to set up drag and drop re-ordering on the
change_list for a model. Basically I created a custom change_list
template for the model to add a submit button to the object_tools list
and to add some javascript includes. I also created my own modified
version of the
django.contrib.adm
The gist has been updated to have all the involved files rather than
just the jQuery code and the view. http://gist.github.com/139475
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Good morning, I've been writing a Django app to create a dynamic net
boot program to boot configs created by users from a web interface
using a tool called gPXE. I've exhausted my troubleshooting methods
and can't seem to figure out why gPXE can boot from a static file
served directly from apache
I have a django project, its a satchmo store. I have noticed that
when the flatpages middleware is in my settings.py 404s seem to be
handled incorrectly. i.e. if a page really does not exist the server
first sends a 302 response, then a 404. When google crawls it only
sees the 302 so it thinks t
bump. Does anyone have any ideas?
On Sep 24, 3:56 pm, Josh wrote:
> I have a django project, its a satchmo store. I have noticed that
> when the flatpages middleware is in my settings.py 404s seem to be
> handled incorrectly. i.e. if a page really does not exist the server
> first
bump. Does anyone have any ideas?
On Sep 24, 3:56 pm, Josh wrote:
> I have a django project, its a satchmo store. I have noticed that
> when the flatpages middleware is in my settings.py 404s seem to be
> handled incorrectly. i.e. if a page really does not exist the server
> first
sts/episode/5/mapping-flatpage-urls/
-Josh
On Sep 27, 10:27 am, Piotr Kilczuk wrote:
> 2010/9/27 Josh :
>
> > bump. Does anyone have any ideas?
>
> Trailing slash issue?
>
> Just look into the middleware and see when the response code is modified.
>
> Regards,
> Pi
I didnt look at the blog post but you could try something like this in
your settings:
def debug_for_superuser(request):
if request.user.is_superuser:
return True
else:
return False
DEBUG = debug_for_superuser
I haven't actually tried this but I use something like that to
Hmm, I didnt know that, I'm still fairly new to python and django. So
if I understand this right DEBUG is basically static once the server
starts and will only change with a restart of the server (whatever
environment that happens to be in). Thanks for the help!
-Josh
On Nov 15, 4:32 am
I have this question as well but from what I've seen the only
customizing available is to use strftime formatting.
josh
On Feb 6, 2008, at 11:16 AM, shabda wrote:
>
> I have a model like
>
> class ProjectFile(models.Model):
>project = models.ForeignKe
I'm working on a multi-site project, so most models have a site field.
One particular model, locations, has a site field as well as a many-to-
many relationship with the neighborhood model which also has a site
field. What I want is that when editing a location object the
neighborhoods that show u
Are there any Django-based ad server solutions out there? If not,
should there be any problems with using OpenX (formerly OpenAds) with
a Django site?
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HTML. You
> just need to a) set up OpenX on a subdomain of your site (like
> ads.blah.com) and b) design your templates to have the correct OpenX
> javascript includes to serve the ads.
>
> On Mar 25, 1:59 pm, Josh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Are there any Dja
As far as I can tell, the javascript is importing properly, and the
URL that it's including from in the HTML output works when I put it
straight into my browser. Here's the full definition of a model
including the fieldset definitions. When I view it in the admin
interface the 'Details' field is c
own and fix the
problem...
On Mar 26, 9:37 am, Josh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> As far as I can tell, the javascript is importing properly, and the
> URL that it's including from in the HTML output works when I put it
> straight into my browser. Here's the full defini
ented those admin URLs one at a
time to figure out which was causing the problem, and it never
reappeared. With the urls.py file back exactly the way it had been
when the problem was present, the problem is now gone.
Weird.
On Mar 26, 11:56 am, Josh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Got
h the multiple site one object idea.
>
> Hope that helps,
>
> Michael
>
> On Tue, Mar 25, 2008 at 1:47 PM, Josh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > I'm working on a multi-site project, so most models have a site field.
> > One particular model, lo
look in settings.SITE_ID
>
> This is what flatpages does to return the flatpage object: f =
> get_object_or_404(FlatPage, url__exact=url,
> sites__id__exact=settings.SITE_ID)
>
> Hope that helps,
>
> Michael
>
> On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 9:58 AM, Josh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I've defined a model using a generic foreign key which is basically
exactly like the tagging example provided in the Django docs:
from django.db import models
from django.contrib.contenttypes.models import ContentType
from django.contrib.contenttypes import generic
class WordedItem(models.Model)
I figured it out. The problem was that I was using get_image_url
instead of just image, so it was attempting to write to media_root/
media_root/path/to/image instead of media_root/path/to/image.
On Mar 19, 1:04 pm, Josh Ourisman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I'm trying to set up sor
I've made some changes to my admin interface to create a new set of
pages for editing some of my models. Instead of just /admin/app/model/
id, I now also have /admin/dashboard/id which shows summary of the
data for that object as well as giving some options for modifying some
of it's ForeignKey/Ma
I've determined that the problem is with the get(). If I just create
the objects without first checking to see if it already exists,
there's no problem.
So I guess my question is now this: what's the best way to avoid
duplicates here?
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I've created a sort of modified tagging system for the site I'm
working on. Because of the nature of the 'tags' I had to diverge a
little form the standard and my models look like this:
class Word(models.Model):
word = models.CharField(max_length=30)
slug = models.SlugField(prepop
I've installed the development version of django-tagging, and have put
a TagField() in my model that I want to be tagged so that I can edit
the tags from the admin interface. However I am getting some very
strange behavior.
I can use the TagField() in the admin interface to add and remove tags
ju
x27;).replace('<', '<').replace('>', '>').replace('"',
'"').replace("'", '''))
File "/home/myproject/lib/python2.5/django/utils/encoding.py" in
force_unicode
51.
Is there any easy way to apply a custom class to a particular field of
a model in the oldforms admin?
Specifically, I want to mimic the behavior of a newforms TimeField
with a regular Charfield by just using the built-in javascript time
widget. As far as I can tell, all this really requires is fo
I'm working on what will end up being a large, high-traffic, multi-
site project. Currently we're just using a basic Webfaction account
for hosting during development and testing, but I'm trying to figure
out what would be the best approach to hosting moving forward.
Ideally, we would have multip
get to 25k / mo. uniques, you can host on Joyent for free (in
> exchange.. you give them your user's info). Sure, its a bit shady.. but if
> you need decent hosting on the cheap...
> -justin
>
>
>
> On Fri, Apr 25, 2008 at 11:44 AM, Josh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
MAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Apr 25, 2008, at 18:44 , Josh wrote:
>
>
>
> > Does anyone have any recommendation for the best approach to hosting
> > here, and what hosting company might be a good fit? I know that
> > MediaTemple can certainly accommodate our needs,
That was it! Thanks. :)
On Apr 3, 8:09 am, "Karen Tracey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 2, 2008 at 6:00 PM, Josh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Sorry, here's the full traceback:
>
> > Environment:
>
> > Request Method: GET
&g
So it sounds like the best three options are (in no particular order):
1. Remain with Webfaction.
2. Move to Slicehost.
3. Move to a colocated server.
Obviously this is something that will require discussion with my
client, but I'm perfectly capable of managing a colocated server, so
the main iss
So I ran an svn up on my Django install because I'm running into some
issues that QuerysetRefactor should have fixed, and after doing so the
root page of my site stopped working. Everything else appears to be
working fine, just not /.
In my browser it gives me a 502 Proxy Error (which is odd, bec
Ah, I see. Thanks, I'll give that a shot.
On Mar 28, 6:52 pm, Daniel Roseman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> On Mar 28, 9:16 pm, Josh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > I've determined that the problem is with the get(). If I just create
> > the objects wit
I created a custom middleware for logging requests based on this blog
post: http://whijo.net/blog/brad/2007/07/19/statistics-logging-django.html
It's mostly working fine except for one thing. It causes problems when
a URL without a trailing / is requested. In that case it gives me the
following e
I created a custom middleware for logging requests based on this blog
post: http://whijo.net/blog/brad/2007/07/19/statistics-logging-django.html
It's mostly working fine except for one thing. It causes problems when
a URL without a trailing / is requested. In that case it gives me the
following e
With newforms-admin, is there currently anyway of duplicating the
functionality of 'manage.py adminindex '? It appears that
currently this still is looking for the old admin stuff as the result
I get is this:
{% if perms.myapp %}
Myapp
{% endif %}
I'm guessing that this is basically something t
quest, response):
try:
self.activity.set_request_time()
except:
pass
return response
and that took care of it.
On May 28, 7:19 pm, Josh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I created a custom middleware for logging requests based on this blog
> post:http
With newforms-admin is there any way to add a 'delete' checkbox or
something to a FileField/ImageField? Basically, we'd like the ability
to remove an image that's been uploaded without having to replace it
with something else.
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Hi!
Has there been any more progress toward getting the multiple database
branch merged into trunk? I, among many others, would really like to
be able to use the newer features of django and access multiple
databases from the same project...
Thanks!
Josh
On Oct 17, 12:03 am, koenb <[EM
I thought this *was* the last one that was asked :)
On Nov 7, 4:01 pm, "Russell Keith-Magee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> On Nov 8, 2007 7:00 AM, Josh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Hi!
>
> > Has there been any more progress toward getting
What a great idea! I don't (currently) have any devices that would be
able to use this, but I'll keep it in mind. The screenshots look
great too!
On Nov 8, 6:55 am, "Jannis Leidel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi Users,
>
> I'm very glad to introduce to you django-mobileadmin[1], something
> wh
Hi everyone! I'm trying to get one of our servers set up with Django,
and everything seems to work fine up until I try to syncdb.
This is the output I get:
manage.py syncdb
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "manage.py", line 11, in ?
execute_manager(settings)
File "/usr/lib/python
I remember it being :)
Thanks again!
Josh
On Nov 13, 5:29 am, "Karen Tracey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> That ticket you found suggests the real problem is not a missing mysqldb,
> but a too-old version. I know nothing of CentOS or yum -- is it possible
> there is a more
block.super was working great before i did an svn up this morning..
All of my block.super template tags are returning the HTML character
codes instead of the actual HTML - so instead of getting proper HTML
links, i get the text of the HTML link.
Has anyone come across this? New bug?
- Josh
/docs/template.txt.
I guess if I'm going to be using django-latest, I'll need to stay
updated on the changes. =)
- Josh
On Nov 14, 10:34 am, Josh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> block.super was working great before i did an svn up this morning..
>
> All of my block.super t
{% block breadcrumbs %}
Home
{% endblock %}
{% endautoescape %}
I guess a "DRY-alert" didn't go off in my head when I thought of
adding safe to all those block.super's.
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Fantastic!! Thanks for this information. It's exactly what I've been
looking for!
On Dec 8, 6:39 am, Julien <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Oh, just a precision for those who are interested. I put Alex's code
> in the __init__.py file of my profile app.
>
> On Dec 9, 12:37 am, Julien <[EMAIL PROTE
> So then I changed how I did it to this model, to try and enforce the
> "a profile can have many images and a picture can only have 1
> UserProfile" restraint above:
>
> ---[ myproj.profile.models ]---
> from myproj.myapp.models import ImageObject
>
> class UserProfile(models.Model):
> profile_
,`registrant_num`),
KEY `seminar_id_ind` (`seminar_id`),
CONSTRAINT `registrant_ibfk_1` FOREIGN KEY (`seminar_id`) REFERENCES
`seminar` (`seminar_id`) ON DELETE CASCADE ON UPDATE CASCADE
) ENGINE=InnoDB DEFAULT CHARSET=latin1
This is running Django pulled from svn this morning, python 2.4.2,
My
Great idea - forgot about that MySQL "gotcha" - but I checked and none
of the dates in the TIMESTAMP column are invalid - they are all
starting with 2005 or 2006.
That is the only field in a date/time format so I'm still not sure
what's going on.
Thanks
I want to switch my sites from Drupal to Django. I already read a lot
about Django and made a few sample apps. I think Django is better
suited to my needs, but I do have a few questions that I couldn't find
an answer for. So I thought of a few solutions that might do the
trick. I'm not really a web
On 9 jul, 15:15, "Cal Leeming [Simplicity Media Ltd]"
wrote:
> On Sat, Jul 9, 2011 at 9:19 AM, Josh wrote:
> > I want to switch my sites from Drupal to Django. I already read a lot
> > about Django and made a few sample apps. I think Django is better
> > suited t
I'm new at using Django and am learning it now from several books and
internet. I run into problems with changing the month_format to 2
digits ( %m = 06 ) instead of 3 chars (%b = jun)
I checked the models.py
def get_absolute_url(self):
return ('my_entry_detail', (), { 'year':
self.my
The error obviously is: Page not found (404)
I'm using Django 1.3
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pgloader is for Postgres I think. If it has to be to a single table it
shouldn't be that difficult in Python:
1) get sqlalchemy and declare the django-table. You can use
SQLAutocode for this.
2) import and parse the csv-file ( import csv )
3) use the parsed csv as input for sqlalchemy and add th
Found it or at least found a workaround. Added month_format to the
input dict. A bit strange though?
my_info_dict = {
'queryset': Entry.objects.all(),
'date_field': 'pub_date', 'month_format': '%m',
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I want to update only specific fields in a model and keep the old values in
other fields. I've been working on this for a few days but I run out of
possible solutions.As far as I can see from the documentation and internet
there isn't an easy solution to do this. I'm new at Django, so I might
You already gave the answer. I just tried your solution and it worked. I
was trying a wrong approach and was making it much more complex than it
really is. My approach caused existing values to be overwritten by
Null-values and only inserting the new values.
Thanks for answering a newbie quest
Thanks for the replys. The more I learn about Django, the more I start to
apreciate it. I still have a lot to learn, but compared with Drupal I
already feel more comfortable about Django because there is much more
control.
This is my second Django week, but sometimes I seem to get stuck at sim
I'm new at Django and am experimenting with JavaScript in templates.
I've put JavaScript from Google Charts in a block and it is displaying the
chart properly. The onmouseover should display the details of elements in
the chart, but that isn't working in Django. In a plain html-page it is
disp
>
> >Basically, unless you inserted your js code (or any other markup)
> >using a {{ var }} or {% tag %}, there is NO "restrictions on these
> >blocks with javascript".
>
> >Did you at least inspected the *rendered* template to see how what
> >your HTML and js looks like ?
>
Thanks for point
I'm only working a few weeks with Django and I want some advice about
handling images.
Conceptual I have to remind myself that Django is pure python, so that makes
me complicate things sometimes. Also I still have some conceptual
difficulties with templates and template_tags. Also I'm not real
The images and creation of thumbnails aren't the problem. I'll look into the
1th and 3rd. I've looked at a lot of image apps that might give a solution
to my problem, but none fitted my requirements.
I'm not sure how to get the images in the content. There might be no image
at all, but also on
Maybe I should add I don't want to manually assign the images, but script
this as much as possible. It involves 1000s of images.
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I'm trying to create custom templatetags now, while learning Django. When an
entry is displayed I want to list other entries with the same categories
below the entry. I also wrote a templatetag (following the Practical Django
Projects from James Bennet)
I'm having problems with using a variable
I think the problem is in the render part. I've modified the __init__ of the
Node to self.categories = template.Variable(categories)
Any advice is welcome. All I want to do is a query on the Entries model
that have corresponding categories and return it to the template.
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>{% get_related_entries weblog.entry 5 from object.categories as
related_entries %}
I found that out already. Now I'm pretty sure the problem is in the
rendering. As far as I can tell ( I don't know how to test template tags in
a shell ) I get a list of the names of the categories back.
>It sounds like you're not resolving the variable at all in your render
method --
>
>When you construct the template node, you work with Variable objects, which
represent the >context variable as it exists in the template source (eg,
html).
>
>At the point where you actually render your output,
I've marked a few things that are important I think, because it is getting a
bit bulky
>These are my assumptions about the bits of code you've posted:
>
> >
>
> >models.py
>
> >categories = models.ManyToManyField('Category', blank=True, null=True,
>> default = None)
>
> >
>
> >*Assumption*: ca
>
>
> >If you need to push back a value in a variable call related_entries, then
>> you will want to set a value in the context dictionary:
>
> >
>
> >context[related_entries] =
>
>
Correction on earlier mail when trying some other things. I do this in the
def render. This looks like:
class R
{% get_related_entries weblog.entry 5 from object.categories as
related_entries %}
{% for entry in related_entries %}
{{ entry.title }}
{% endfor %}
class RelatedEntryNode(template.Node):
def __init__(self, model, number, categories, varname):
self.model = mode
I'm trying to retrieve a m2m relation from a blog entry. It should give a
list of entries with the same categories. Below works when I work in the
shell.
from content.models import Entry
qs = Entry.objects.all()
obj = qs[0]
related = Entry.objects.filter(categories=obj.categories.all())
The ob
Thanks, I've added a function to the Enty models. It doesn't in some cases I
get good returns now. But not always.
Content is the name of the app. There is no PK-relation on the Category
class, but only the below on the Entry class.
class Entry(models.Model):
categories = models.ManyToManyF
)
menu_file.write(t.render(c))
return HttpResponseRedirect('/netboot/dynamicmenu.cfg')
It works but it's a strange workaround. Serving it directly causes gPXE to
break. Any thoughts?
On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 18:04, Dennis Kaarsemaker wrote:
> On ma, 2010-07-26 a
I've always done it as rebus_ explained. Put the login options in the
base template wrapping it in {% if user.is_authenticated %} to display
a different mechanism for users that are already logged-in. That form
action is set to the login URL and and the login view handles the
login processing, er
It would be nice to see your templates. Post the django template code
for base, index, and register somewhere like dpaste.com and then
provide us the link. Kind of hard to make a guess at this point but
seeing the code will help.
- Josh
cabedge.com
On Feb 22, 8:55 am, Maciek Strzelecki
wrote
I'm using Django 1.1.1 and have accomplished this using jQuery.
Here's a simplified version of what I write to override the admin
change_form template for the targeted app. I put this at //templates/admin///change_form.html:
{% extends "admin/change_form.html" %}
{% block extrahead %}{{ block.su
Hi everybody,
I'm using django (integrated in an application, omero) as a production
server with mod_python (v3.3.1-147.35) and apache (v2.2.10-2.8.1).
Unfortunately after rebooting the server apache seems to hang-up. When
opening the website I just see the progress-indicator gif.
When restarting
that gives full
> details. It helps the SNR and also avoids stepping on toes.
Wonder if django could do the same thing PostgreSQL and a few other
OSS tools do and setup a separate django-jobs list?
Josh
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Is there any good howto on setting up Django on a MediaTemple (dv)
server? Up until now I've been running various Django-powered sites
from Dreamhost. Now I'm migrating all my hosting over to MediaTemple,
but I don't seem to be able to get Django running properly. I'm stuck
at the point where you
my project, is that the case? What should the
path be relative to?
On Jan 3, 4:05 pm, Katie Lohrenz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi, Josh. I'm on a (dv) server, too.
>
> You're right that it's a vhost.conf file that you need to edit. If you
> edit the httpd.conf or h
Ok, this is probably a bit odd.
I'm working in OS X (obviously). I generally keep my work files stored
on my iDisk because this makes it incredibly easy to 1) keep
everything backed up, and 2) keep all my files up to date on multiple
computers. I use the iDisk sync feature so that everything is s
Nevermind, it was because of some funky characters in a directory
name
On Jan 4, 6:17 pm, Josh Ourisman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Ok, this is probably a bit odd.
>
> I'm working in OS X (obviously). I generally keep my work files stored
> on my iDisk because this m
>
> PythonPath "['/path/to/django'] + sys.path"
>
> /path/to/django is the (hypothetical) folder where all my django
> projects live. So inside it is a folder called myproject which has
> settings.py in it.
>
> (And if you have more questions and would pr
That is to say, the home directory of the user 'django' is '/home/
django'...
On Jan 5, 1:09 am, Josh Ourisman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Ok, I'm still having problems. :(
>
> As near as I can tell Django is installed properly, and my project is
Ok, Django is installed and my vhosts.conf is successfully sending
requests to Django. But now when I try to go to my site I get this
error:
Mod_python error: "PythonHandler django.core.handlers.modpython"
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "/usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages/mod_python/ap
Looks like I'm having some problems with my MySQLdb install. To
install, I downloaded the tarball, &c.,and ran the installer script,
but it doesn't actually seem to work. From the errors I'm getting it
seems to be an issue with the way it actually installed. Here's what I
get if I go into the Pyth
It's probably worth noting that when I run the site off the
development server it has no problems whatsoever. It seem to me that
this mean the problem _must_ be something to do with the vhosts.conf
file, yes?
On Jan 5, 7:01 pm, Josh Ourisman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Ok, Djang
I have two models, modelA and modelB. ModelA needs classB1 and classB2
from modelB, while modelB needs classA1 from classA.
So, in the models.py file for modelA I have 'from modelB.models import
classB1, classB2'. This worked just fine until I added to the
models.py file for modelB 'from modelA.m
te:
> Check this
> out:http://www.python.org/doc/faq/programming/#what-are-the-best-practice...
>
> On Jan 11, 6:54 am, Josh Ourisman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > I have two models, modelA and modelB. ModelA needs classB1 and classB2
> > from modelB, while modelB
#x27; then referencing the
> classes as 'models_A.Class1', does that work?
>
> On Jan 11, 8:27 am, Josh Ourisman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> > Hmm. That implies that I should be using 'import modelA.models.Class1'
> > rather than 'f
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> Hi,
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> On Jan 10, 12:54 pm, Josh Ourisman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> > I have two models, modelA and modelB. ModelA needs classB1 and classB2
> > from modelB, while modelB needs classA1 from classA.
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> Can you explain what you mean by "needs"
Ok, that should help. Thanks very much.
On Jan 10, 4:58 pm, Rajesh Dhawan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Jan 10, 4:00 pm, Josh Ourisman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> > It's for the purpose of defining foreign keys. Basically, ClassA1
> > needs to be able
There are two ways in which I want to customize the admin interface
for a project I'm working on. As far as I can tell, these sorts of
customizations aren't built in, but before I start trying to write
them myself I just want to make sure I'm not reinventing the wheel
here. So, the two things I wa
Actually, just thought of a third:
3. Basically the same as 2, but for the list view rather than the edit
form. In other words, I want to be able to filter the list of
locations by site as well as by neighborhood. Since the neighborhoods
are associated with sites already it would be useful if whe
That's pretty much what I figured. Thanks.
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> On Mar 6, 12:42 pm, David Reynolds <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> > On 5 Mar 2008, at 6:17 pm, Josh Ourisman wrote:
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