Re: LibreJam - FSF* should host a Libre Game development tournament!

2022-01-07 Thread Florian Snow
Hi! On Friday, January 7, 2022 5:21:10 AM CET Richard Stallman wrote: > It sounds like game jams have value for education in programming, but > do they have value for the free software movement, It depends. It is a fun way to introduce people to programming and if we introduce people to Free

Re: LibreJam - FSF* should host a Libre Game development tournament!

2022-01-07 Thread Richard Stallman
[[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] It sounds like game jams have value for education in programming, but do they have va

Re: LibreJam - FSF* should host a Libre Game development tournament!

2022-01-05 Thread Jean Louis
On January 5, 2022 5:06:26 AM UTC, Michael McMahon > If most game jam games ended up in standard repositories, there >would be a negative effect on the entire ecosystem.  Ecosystem is biology. I am conducting experiments of various kinds every day, and measure outcomes, make hypothesis and

Re: LibreJam - FSF* should host a Libre Game development tournament!

2022-01-05 Thread Richard Stallman
[[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] If the aim of a Game Jam isn't to produce a game that people use, what is its purpose

Re: LibreJam - FSF* should host a Libre Game development tournament!

2022-01-05 Thread Michael McMahon
In my response I wrote, "The purpose of a jam is education, socialization, and friendly competition while gaining functional experience through creating something in an area that they are interested in." From what I gathered, most game jams participants are children, students, hobbyists, and

Re: LibreJam - FSF* should host a Libre Game development tournament!

2022-01-04 Thread Jacob Hrbek
>  I think it would quickly become unmanageable. I think you would need to display only those installed and allow a search for more to install. -- Dennis Payne I agree that showing a huge list of games would be unmanagable in which case each user should have it's "library of games" with option

Re: LibreJam - FSF* should host a Libre Game development tournament!

2022-01-04 Thread Jacob Hrbek
>  A libre game jam related to LibrePlanet would probably need to be before the conference to not distract from the talks. -- Michael McMahon I like the idea of it being part of the conference to increase the participation from a new generation. > Game jam games are not expected to result in

Re: LibreJam - FSF* should host a Libre Game development tournament!

2022-01-03 Thread Michael McMahon
Hi! These game jam threads are an interesting read, but there are some misunderstandings about what the purpose of a game jam is in this thread and the other thread Global Game Jam.  This is long, but I hope it is informative. If anyone with experience running a game jam wants to host a game

Re: LibreJam - FSF* should host a Libre Game development tournament!

2022-01-03 Thread Jacob Hrbek
> Packaging a program in distros is crucial for the community because it leads to various teams that independently work on the program, and thus have a chance to make sure it is honest.  This is why free software tends not to be malware. > You may be right that it doesn't particularly help on ot

Re: LibreJam - FSF* should host a Libre Game development tournament!

2022-01-03 Thread Jacob Hrbek
> So by Libre Game development tournament! are we talking about a competition to see who can come up with the best game ? -- Paul Yes, That's how i see my idea.. Where the problems that i can see is how to make it fair, competetive and how to get sufficient amount of submissions while promoting t

Re: LibreJam - FSF* should host a Libre Game development tournament!

2022-01-01 Thread Richard Stallman
[[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] Packaging a program in distros is crucial for the community because it leads to vario

Re: LibreJam - FSF* should host a Libre Game development tournament!

2021-12-31 Thread Jacob Hrbek
> To let the community make sure the program is safe and not malware, we need to encourage users to package the program for distros. (See https://gnu.org/philosophy/free-software-even-more-important.html.) > It is important to achieve all three goals. The second is often ignored, but then the free

Re: LibreJam - FSF* should host a Libre Game development tournament!

2021-12-30 Thread Richard Stallman
[[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] For practical success, it is desirable to make the game easy to install. To respect

Re: LibreJam - FSF* should host a Libre Game development tournament!

2021-12-30 Thread Richard Stallman
[[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > We already have a pretty good wiki, not hold by FSF and perhaps not using > the

Re: LibreJam - FSF* should host a Libre Game development tournament!

2021-12-30 Thread Yasuaki Kudo
Hello! I was just casually glancing through my email inbox and this caught my attention! Recently, I have become convinced that a viable way to start a new collaborative society is through community efforts in having fun, developing our own video games together and by extension, creating ric

Re: LibreJam - FSF* should host a Libre Game development tournament!

2021-12-30 Thread Jacob Hrbek
We can do something to help with that. The first step is to add entries in directory.fsf.org for them. Then we could make another page with a list of these free games and put it on gnu.org/software. It could have 5-10 lines of description of each game. WDYT? -- RMS There is a https://libre

Re: LibreJam - FSF* should host a Libre Game development tournament!

2021-12-30 Thread Richard Stallman
[[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > In a lot of ways I think the bigger problem for free software games is > discov

Re: LibreJam - FSF* should host a Libre Game development tournament!

2021-12-30 Thread Jacob Hrbek
I agree that one game jam won't cause a sudden influx of free software games.. From my experience I think the effects of it will be seen after +- 3rd iteration assuming that we are able to provide a sufficient: 1. promotion 2. economical support 3. preparation time (at least 1 month in advance) f

Re: LibreJam - FSF* should host a Libre Game development tournament!

2021-12-30 Thread Jacob Hrbek
> This might be fun, but it would be a lot of work and would need leaders who are familiar with free software game development, plus leaders who know how to run an event. -- RMS Agree, i asked relevant developers who have experience with Free Software Game Development to join the list and prov