Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] GRC pure FSK with USRP1 board sampling troubles

2011-05-19 Thread Marcus D. Leech
On 05/19/2011 11:51 PM, ikjtel wrote: > Yep - it just so happens that these are "digital" (P25) channels, > not analog ones, but robust detection/correction protocols at the > higher levels are there to cope with the occasional glitches... > If they fly through the aether, they're analog. Once

Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] GRC pure FSK with USRP1 board sampling troubles

2011-05-19 Thread ikjtel
> In the real world, glitches happen on analog channels. > Which is why you develop techniques to cope with them. > I see the occasional underrun/overrun as equivalent to > these glitches. Yep - it just so happens that these are "digital" (P25) channels, not analog ones, but robust detection/corre

Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] USRP2 not Found with UHD on SD Card

2011-05-19 Thread Nick Foster
http://www.ettus.com/uhd_docs/manual/html/build.html On Thu, 2011-05-19 at 19:50 -0700, hafiz zimran wrote: > Hi > I have installed UHD on SD Card. When I turn on USRP2, LED "D & F" on > ( SD card is working properly) . > Ubuntu 10.04 with GNUradio 3.2.2 has been installed on PC. > When I run the

Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] USRP2 not Found with UHD on SD Card

2011-05-19 Thread Josh Blum
On 05/19/2011 07:50 PM, hafiz zimran wrote: > Hi > I have installed UHD on SD Card. When I turn on USRP2, LED "D & F" on ( SD > card is working properly) . > Ubuntu 10.04 with GNUradio 3.2.2 has been installed on PC. > When I run the command " sudo find_usrps", I got " NO USRP2 Found". > The com

[Discuss-gnuradio] USRP2 not Found with UHD on SD Card

2011-05-19 Thread hafiz zimran
Hi I have installed UHD on SD Card. When I turn on USRP2, LED "D & F" on ( SD card is working properly) . Ubuntu 10.04 with GNUradio 3.2.2 has been installed on PC. When I run the command " sudo find_usrps", I got " NO USRP2 Found". The command "sudo find_usrps" worked fine with my previous SD car

Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] GRC pure FSK with USRP1 board sampling troubles

2011-05-19 Thread Marcus D. Leech
On 05/19/2011 09:49 PM, ikjtel wrote: > > We're assuming that the design specs for our app say that: > "USRP underruns are totally unacceptable" > (is this a realistic goal to have in the "real world"?) > > While extended underruns are problematic, a short underrun should be equivalent to a n

Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] GRC pure FSK with USRP1 board sampling troubles

2011-05-19 Thread ikjtel
Nick Foster wrote: > In the "real world" this problem is usually solved by > dynamically resampling the audio stream at a rate controlled > by a feedback loop responding to the observed clock mismatch. I have a USRP1 with a BasicTX daughterboard. When transmitting, what is the proper method in a

Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] GRC pure FSK with USRP1 board sampling troubles

2011-05-19 Thread justynnuff
Nick Foster-4 wrote: > > I think your transmit side is fine. The .wav source should be > unthrottled. The receive side is where you're going to run into trouble. > Indeed you're right. Upon further research, I realised that nothing throttles the Tx side but the USRP. So, according to my pre

Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] GRC pure FSK with USRP1 board sampling troubles

2011-05-19 Thread Nick Foster
On Thu, 2011-05-19 at 12:44 -0700, justynnuff wrote: > Hello, everyone. > > I have been coming here for all of my GNURadio and GRC problems, and > everyone seems beyond knowledgeable. That being said, I have come to the > end of my recourses and am forced to pose a question. I hope this hasn't >

[Discuss-gnuradio] GRC pure FSK with USRP1 board sampling troubles

2011-05-19 Thread justynnuff
Hello, everyone. I have been coming here for all of my GNURadio and GRC problems, and everyone seems beyond knowledgeable. That being said, I have come to the end of my recourses and am forced to pose a question. I hope this hasn't already been answered, but I've been searching for a while, and

Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] QAM demod Error in GRC

2011-05-19 Thread Marcus D. Leech
On 19/05/2011 1:21 PM, Robert McGwier wrote: Vlad It is apparent to me that you did not understand Josh's explanation. Possibly he was not forceful enough. ;-). This is not an error. It is the mathematical consequence of doing QAM with rotational symmetries. YOU MUST provide your OWN sync

Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] QAM demod Error in GRC

2011-05-19 Thread Ben Reynwar
Wouldn't one normally use differential encoding to avoid this problem? Maybe I'm missing something important. Ben On Thu, May 19, 2011 at 12:21 PM, Robert McGwier wrote: > Vlad > It is apparent to me that you did not understand Josh's explanation. >  Possibly he was not forceful enough. ;-). > T

Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] ptime get_time(void) precision down to millisec microsec nanosec ?

2011-05-19 Thread Marcus D. Leech
On 19/05/2011 3:13 PM, Bastien Auneau wrote: why should I use set_time_next_pps() ? Is it needed to init USRP lock to GPS time ? Keep in mind that the PPS support pre-dates the existence of an "in skin" GPSDO, and the *primary* purpose of the GPSDO is to provide a stable 10MHz reference cloc

Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] QAM demod Error in GRC

2011-05-19 Thread Robert McGwier
Vlad It is apparent to me that you did not understand Josh's explanation. Possibly he was not forceful enough. ;-). This is not an error. It is the mathematical consequence of doing QAM with rotational symmetries. YOU MUST provide your OWN synchronization to remove the phase ambiguity. It is

Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] ptime get_time(void) precision down to millisec microsec nanosec ?

2011-05-19 Thread Bastien Auneau
I don't understand why I should do : > Typically, you call get_time() to get the UTC time > in seconds, and then set_time_next_pps() to tell the FPGA to sync its > sample time to the next PPS pulse why should I use set_time_next_pps() ? Is it needed to init USRP lock to GPS time ? My understandi

Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] ptime get_time(void) precision down to millisec microsec nanosec ?

2011-05-19 Thread Nick Foster
On Thu, 2011-05-19 at 17:07 +, Bastien Auneau wrote: > Hi > > I think there is a misunderstanding. > I do not want to set the time of the USRP. > I want to use the USRP (with GPSDO) as my time reference. > This is why I want to query the USRP using the UHD function ptime > get_time(void) in >

Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] ptime get_time(void) precision down to millisec microsec nanosec ?

2011-05-19 Thread Bastien Auneau
Hi I think there is a misunderstanding. I do not want to set the time of the USRP. I want to use the USRP (with GPSDO) as my time reference. This is why I want to query the USRP using the UHD function ptime get_time(void) in /host/lib/usrp/gps_ctrl.cpp @ line 133 This function only returns date a

Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] QAM demod Error in GRC

2011-05-19 Thread Vlad Stoianovici
Dear list and Josh, I'm still getting this error when using the QAM Demod block (qamX_demod is not connected internally). Are there any new developments concerning these blocks? Vlad. Josh Blum-2 wrote: > > Well, when you receive a qam signal, and lock to it, you still have some > unknown ph

[Discuss-gnuradio] ptime get_time(void) precision down to millisec microsec nanosec ?

2011-05-19 Thread Bastien Auneau
Hi Everyone First, I would like to introduce myself (ourselves) : VeriSat, Oslo based company (Norway). We are working on a project, using USRP (N210) platform, which aim is to build a DVB-RCS Terminal Shortly RCS is for satellite communication, and is Multi Frequencies TDMA. (http://verisat.no)

[Discuss-gnuradio] Developers' Call, May 19, 2011

2011-05-19 Thread Tom Rondeau
We will be having our monthly Developers' conference call today. Date: May 19, 2011 Time: 10 PM UTC (6 PM EDT, 3 PM PDT) SIP: sip:gnura...@digitalbazaar.com IRC: #gnuradio on freenode I am traveling and on a semi-holiday right now, and it is unlikely that I can make the call today. Johnathan Corg

Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] A few words on development

2011-05-19 Thread Tom Rondeau
On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 9:43 AM, Martin Braun wrote: > On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 07:51:00PM -0400, Marcus D. Leech wrote: > > What it seems to come down to is a lack of initiative. We are all > willing > > to wait until someone else does something for us, and then report on > the > > pr