Re: [lopsa-discuss] I know that this is probably futile, but is there a search engine out there that doesn't SUCK???

2011-05-25 Thread Charles Polisher
> Remember when Google first came out? It was so *simple* and elegant. Who > could resist? Anyone else have a suggestion? http://goosh.org/ + nothing but results + it's a shell: your hands needn't leave the keyboard -- Charles Polisher ___ Discuss

Re: [lopsa-discuss] I know that this is probably futile, but is there a search engine out there that doesn't SUCK???

2011-05-25 Thread unix_fan
Lynda wrote: >Google wants to hang crap off to the side that I don't want, Eh? What crap? I have nothing on the right side of the results. On the left side I have what amount to three unintrusive sections: 1. Quick links to to the other major Google tools: * Everything * Images

Re: [lopsa-discuss] I know that this is probably futile, but is there a search engine out there that doesn't SUCK???

2011-05-25 Thread Lynda
On 5/25/2011 4:41 PM, Meenoo Shivdasani wrote: >> Remember when Google first came out? It was so *simple* and elegant. Who >> could resist? Anyone else have a suggestion? I retyped this a few times > Firefox with the Optimize Google extension configured to block ads? I think you (and some others)

Re: [lopsa-discuss] I know that this is probably futile, but is there a search engine out there that doesn't SUCK???

2011-05-25 Thread Phil Pennock
On 2011-05-25 at 16:30 -0700, Lynda wrote: > Google wants to hang crap off to the side that I don't want, and that > instant thing is now stuck in the ON position. Yahoo is so crowded with > ads that it's vomitous, and has also decided that it wants to guess what > I'm going to type, and to "hel

Re: [lopsa-discuss] I know that this is probably futile, but is there a search engine out there that doesn't SUCK???

2011-05-25 Thread Edward Ned Harvey
> From: discuss-boun...@lists.lopsa.org [mailto:discuss- > boun...@lists.lopsa.org] On Behalf Of Lynda > > Remember when Google first came out? It was so *simple* and elegant. > Who > could resist? Anyone else have a suggestion? I retyped this a few times > to remove the profanity, and it's diffic

Re: [lopsa-discuss] I know that this is probably futile, but is there a search engine out there that doesn't SUCK???

2011-05-25 Thread Nick Silkey
Android user here. No live search where results alter as you type. But you do get find as you type via suggestions, including a mash of history. If you're in Maps or using what Google somehow determines is a localized search, that seems to invoke local hits. I love it. On May 25, 2011 8:19 PM, wro

Re: [lopsa-discuss] New LOPSA list for security discussion

2011-05-25 Thread Pamela Lynn Howell
+1 on the ironic bandwagon. further, i found the warning about using a non-valuable password as it will be occasionally emailed to me in clear text also ironic, for a security list. On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 5:01 PM, John Broome wrote: > On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 16:40, Jim Hickstein wrote: > > On

Re: [lopsa-discuss] I know that this is probably futile, but is there a search engine out there that doesn't SUCK???

2011-05-25 Thread david
I beleive that google doesn't do the instant search for mobile devices, but they may do browser detection to decide when to send you the smaller version. David Lang On Wed, 25 May 2011, Lynda wrote: > Date: Wed, 25 May 2011 16:30:39 -0700 > From: Lynda > To: Lopsa Discussion > Subject: [lo

Re: [lopsa-discuss] I know that this is probably futile, but is there a search engine out there that doesn't SUCK???

2011-05-25 Thread Paul Graydon
On 05/25/2011 01:30 PM, Lynda wrote: > Google wants to hang crap off to the side that I don't want, and that > instant thing is now stuck in the ON position. Yahoo is so crowded with > ads that it's vomitous, and has also decided that it wants to guess what > I'm going to type, and to "help" me wit

Re: [lopsa-discuss] I know that this is probably futile, but is there a search engine out there that doesn't SUCK???

2011-05-25 Thread Joshua Penix
On May 25, 2011, at 4:30 PM, Lynda wrote: > Heck, I'd just be happy to have the old search engine sans nanny-isms back. http://www.scroogle.org/cgi-bin/scraper.htm Alternately, the pieces you don't liked can be removed using a CSS override in your browser or a plugin like Greasemonkey. Grante

Re: [lopsa-discuss] I know that this is probably futile, but is there a search engine out there that doesn't SUCK???

2011-05-25 Thread Meenoo Shivdasani
> Remember when Google first came out? It was so *simple* and elegant. Who > could resist? Anyone else have a suggestion? I retyped this a few times Firefox with the Optimize Google extension configured to block ads? M ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@l

[lopsa-discuss] I know that this is probably futile, but is there a search engine out there that doesn't SUCK???

2011-05-25 Thread Lynda
Google wants to hang crap off to the side that I don't want, and that instant thing is now stuck in the ON position. Yahoo is so crowded with ads that it's vomitous, and has also decided that it wants to guess what I'm going to type, and to "help" me with it. Bing? It has all the bloatware of Y

Re: [lopsa-discuss] New LOPSA list for security discussion

2011-05-25 Thread John Broome
On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 16:40, Jim Hickstein wrote: > On 2011/05/25 15:37, Susan Baur wrote: >> Am I the only one who finds it ironic > > No. > >  > that I need to manually accept an "untrusted" certificate to sign up for > the > security discussion mailing list? (The domain is lists.lopsa.org an

Re: [lopsa-discuss] New LOPSA list for security discussion

2011-05-25 Thread Jim Hickstein
On 2011/05/25 15:37, Susan Baur wrote: > Am I the only one who finds it ironic No. > that I need to manually accept an "untrusted" certificate to sign up for the security discussion mailing list? (The domain is lists.lopsa.org and the cert is only valid on lopsa.org.) > > --Susan > > On May 2

Re: [lopsa-discuss] New LOPSA list for security discussion

2011-05-25 Thread Susan Baur
Am I the only one who finds it ironic that I need to manually accept an "untrusted" certificate to sign up for the security discussion mailing list? (The domain is lists.lopsa.org and the cert is only valid on lopsa.org.) --Susan On May 23, 2011, at 1:30 PM, Matt Disney wrote: > Greetings, >

Re: [lopsa-discuss] Security architecture standard

2011-05-25 Thread Nick Silkey
I always thought my old infosec colleagues from http://security.utexas.edu/did a good job in establishing platform guidelines for the computing zoo they dealt with. http://security.utexas.edu/admin/ ; checklists for rhel and sol10 I think they're a filtered corpus from NSA guidelines and OWASP/SA

Re: [lopsa-discuss] Security architecture standard

2011-05-25 Thread Chris Ess
On 5/25/2011 11:20 AM, Brian Mathis wrote: > On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 11:14 AM, Jim Hickstein wrote: >> I am being asked to provide content for a "UNIX/Linux Security Architecture >> Standard". Google is unavailing. Does anyone have a (link to a) document of >> this kind, that we could mine/steal

Re: [lopsa-discuss] Security architecture standard

2011-05-25 Thread Brian Mathis
On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 11:14 AM, Jim Hickstein wrote: > I am being asked to provide content for a "UNIX/Linux Security Architecture > Standard".  Google is unavailing.  Does anyone have a (link to a) document of > this kind, that we could mine/steal?  Or do I need to hire a security > consultant

[lopsa-discuss] Security architecture standard

2011-05-25 Thread Jim Hickstein
I am being asked to provide content for a "UNIX/Linux Security Architecture Standard". Google is unavailing. Does anyone have a (link to a) document of this kind, that we could mine/steal? Or do I need to hire a security consultant for that? ___ Di