Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Top Posting... Can we have an LO Mailing List Guidelines Page?

2011-09-12 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2011-09-10 7:31 AM, Ken Springer wrote: At this point, this add-on would seem to eliminate the need of trimming, too. No, no, NO... trimming should still be required. All QuoteCollapse does is spare me a lot of pain when I encounter morons who refuse to trim posts... -- Unsubscribe inst

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Top Posting... Can we have an LO Mailing List Guidelines Page?

2011-09-12 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2011-09-11 9:47 PM, Ken Springer wrote: Even if they did push it through, if no one enforces the eventual rule, the time will be wasted. I'd prefer interspersion, as I almost always have to scroll around somewhere in order to remember what was being replied to. Most people who advocate for

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Top Posting... Can we have an LO Mailing List Guidelines Page?

2011-09-13 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2011-09-12 8:42 PM, Robert Holtzman wrote: On Mon, Sep 12, 2011 at 05:06:49PM -0400, Tanstaafl wrote: On 2011-09-11 9:47 PM, Ken Springer wrote: Even if they did push it through, if no one enforces the eventual rule, the time will be wasted. I'd prefer interspersion, as I almost a

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Top Posting...

2011-10-03 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2011-10-02 2:38 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: On 10/2/11 at 09:07, Italo Vignoli wrote: I have published a comprehensive Mailing List Netiquette, which should satisfy your needs. http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette Of course, a mailing list netiquette is just a reference document

Re: [tdf-discuss] RE: [libreoffice-users] Re: OASIS Standard ODF 1.2 Approved

2011-10-05 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2011-10-04 5:58 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: what is with this stupid quoting/replying method??? Oh... Outlook user... Never mind... -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Top Posting... Can we have an LO Mailing List Guidelines Page?

2011-10-20 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2011-10-20 4:52 AM, Mélodie wrote: I've used Quote Colors for quite some time, at each update of TB I get error messages, then mysteriously all starts to work again within a couple of days without any intervention from my part, and without an update to QC (is working at the moment). It is c

Re: [tdf-discuss] Show prominently on web site first page 64 bit problem.

2011-11-04 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2011-11-04 4:48 AM, sjonnie wrote: i think it is only fair to warn people with a 64 bit OS that we do not function well on a 64 bit OS. 2 friends have asked for help since they bought a new laptop with a 64 bit OS. now they are pissed off because they were not told about this problem. Wha

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Show prominently on web site first page 64 bit problem.

2011-11-04 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2011-11-04 9:29 AM, sjonnie wrote: OS is windows 7 ultimate sp1 with internet explo. completely locked up and using firefox 7. https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=39659 more talk about java 1.7.0 The solution is simple - DON'T USE JRE7. This is a well known issue. I NEVER upgra

Re: [tdf-discuss] Status of .docX etc.

2011-12-14 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2011-12-13 3:11 PM, Italo Vignoli wrote: On 13/12/2011 14:43, Harold Fuchs wrote: Can LO read/import these formats for *editing*? All of them? If not, which? Yes, all of them. Can LO write/export these formats? All of them? If not, which? Yes, all of them, although - given the immense

Re: [tdf-discuss] overall communication guidelines and reply-to mangling

2011-12-15 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2011-12-14 6:41 PM, Florian Effenberger wrote: So, my point is the following: - I have people strongly asking for disabling reply-to mangling, e.g. on the website list. - I have people strongly asking for leaving reply-to mangling as is. - So, whatever I do, someone will be upset. - I mys

Re: [tdf-discuss] overall communication guidelines and reply-to mangling

2011-12-19 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2011-12-19 6:31 AM, Florian Effenberger wrote: Friedrich Strohmaier wrote on 2011-12-15 23:56: As well the proposal of Charles (Tanstaafl) of having a choice while subscribing is worth considering. Maybe there is a possibility to have a further subscribing mode with mlmmj. If possible, this

Re: [tdf-discuss] overall communication guidelines and reply-to mangling

2011-12-19 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2011-12-19 1:26 PM, Florian Effenberger wrote: I think migrating to Mailman 3 will take a while, since it requires lots of efforts to switch our mail system, I guess. I would wager that if whoever would be tasked with doing this was to ask nicely on the mailman-dev list, you would get lots

Re: [tdf-discuss] removing mailing list prefixes?

2012-08-02 Thread Tanstaafl
I vote for removing them from ALL lists... On 2012-08-01 6:28 PM, Florian Ehrenberg wrote: Hello, today, a discussion started on the certification mailing list whether we want to get rid of those mailing list prefixes in the subject, like [libreoffice-announce], [libreoffice-conference] or [t

Re: [tdf-discuss] Reply settings on this list have changed

2012-08-13 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2012-08-12 12:26 PM, Florian Effenberger wrote: I know we had numerous discussions on this topic in the past, but the outcome was that roughly 50% were for this change, and 50% refused it, so I am really sitting between two chairs here, for which I beg for your understanding. On the one hand,

Re: [tdf-discuss] Adding the browser to Libreoffice

2012-11-09 Thread Tanstaafl
Please don't. This is just stupid, and would be a total waste of developer resources. There are plenty of browsers to choose from. On 2012-11-08 4:04 PM, Randolph D. wrote: Dear all, after some talks with some board members, the request rised to include more members and developers in the idea

Re: [tdf-discuss] LO vs AOO : GPL/LGPL vs ASL licences

2013-01-02 Thread Tanstaafl
I think the most important distinction to an end user, aside from knowing that both allow them to *use* the software in any way they see fit - personal, commercial, etc, is that the LO project is able to benefit from AOO code, but AOO is not allowed to benefit from the LO code. On 2013-01-01

Re: [tdf-discuss] creation of a Persona Gallery Page on LO page system

2013-02-18 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2013-02-18 2:00 PM, webmaster-Kracked_P_P wrote: I just found out that LibreOffice does not use the font color that the FF Persona designs call for. So if the menu color is white in Firefox, LO will still use the black menu color. That really messes up people who want a dark color backgroun

Re: [tdf-discuss] Is this a bug?

2013-09-23 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2013-09-23 11:20 AM, Terrence Enger wrote: BTW, thank you, Pedro, for noticing that this list has been unhelpful in the past. If questions like these should go somewhere else, guidance is welcome. This list is NOT intended for general Libreoffice support, it is intended for discussion of

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Java still broke on LibreOffice 5.1.1

2016-03-11 Thread Tanstaafl
On 3/11/2016 12:51 PM, Larry Gusaas wrote: > On 2016-03-11, 4:18 AM Alexander Thurgood wrote: >> Le 11/03/2016 01:47, Larry Gusaas a écrit : >>> LibreOffice 5.1.1 on Macs still doesn't recognize Java Runtime >>> Environment (JRE 1.8.0_73 & OS X ver.10.11.3) >>> >>> You need to fix this bug. Can't

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Java still broke on LibreOffice 5.1.1

2016-03-11 Thread Tanstaafl
Why is this thread in the tdf-discuss list? On 3/11/2016 3:28 PM, Larry Gusaas wrote: > Proof??? JRE works with 5.0 and doesn't work with 5.1. That is pretty > objective proof. > LibreOffice code changed and now does not find JRE on OS X. > > In case you weren't paying attention when 5.1.0 ca

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Java still broke on LibreOffice 5.1.1

2016-03-11 Thread Tanstaafl
On 3/11/2016 4:19 PM, Larry Gusaas wrote: On 3/11/2016 4:19 PM, Larry Gusaas wrote: > No. It is a LibreOffice bug. You broke the usability of LibreOffice > on Macs with your code change. *I* broke it? Sorry Larry I'm just a user like you. > It worked before. Past performance is no guarantee o

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Java still broke on LibreOffice 5.1.1

2016-03-12 Thread Tanstaafl
On 3/11/2016 6:22 PM, Larry Gusaas wrote: > On 2016-03-11, 4:11 PM Tanstaafl wrote: >> On 3/11/2016 4:19 PM, Larry Gusaas wrote: >>> No. It is a LibreOffice bug. You broke the usability of LibreOffice >>> on Macs with your code change. >> *I* broke it? Sor

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Java still broke on LibreOffice 5.1.1

2016-03-15 Thread Tanstaafl
On 3/14/2016 9:51 PM, Larry Gusaas wrote: > My "Fix it" comment was aimed at LibreOffice in general, not to you > specifically. Oh, so you prefer to issue 'general purpose' commands and edicts rather than ones aimed at spoecific people. How very thoughtful. > You are one of the people who under

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: [Libreoffice] Proposal to join Apache OpenOffice

2011-06-08 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2011-06-08 12:25 PM, Jim Jagielski wrote: > On Jun 8, 2011, at 11:17 AM, M Henri Day wrote: >> Jim, thank you for your considered - and considerate ! - reply. >> The circumstances being what they are, would not the best path for >> ASF to take(as seems to me to be the case) be to accept the gran

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: [Libreoffice] Proposal to join Apache OpenOffice

2011-06-08 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2011-06-08 2:04 PM, BRM wrote: > Like all the venom towards Oracle, OOo, and ASF that has been spewed > by TDF members and contributors on this topic over the last few days? Very little of the negative reaction has been directed at the ASF, mostly it is directed at Oracle... Personally, I thi

Re: Availability of source code (Was: Re: OFF TOPIC about GPL enforcement (Was: Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: [Libreoffice] Proposal to join Apache OpenOffice))

2011-06-20 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2011-06-18 5:39 AM, Simos Xenitellis wrote: > And there is no better way to do this than have the 'git repositories' > of the LibreOffice source code. You were correct earlier - he is merely pointing out that nowhere in the license agreement (I haven't read it so am not making the same claim) d

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: LibO 3.4.2 RC1 under Windows

2011-07-20 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2011-07-19 8:10 AM, Jesús Corrius wrote: > 2. The versions of the C++ libraries we are distributing are the last > ones available from Microsoft as a full package. According to the > security bulletin: That isn't the point... NO software should EVER force the installation of older libraries wh

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: LibO 3.4.2 RC1 under Windows

2011-07-20 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2011-07-19 9:47 AM, Jesús Corrius wrote: > We can detect if there a new version installed, and then do nothing, > but the trade-off will be to make LibreOffice less reliable. Or, you could code LibO to force a 'repair install' of the *existing* version so that it does work fine, and only instal

Re: [tdf-discuss] ignore m$ legacy?

2011-07-28 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2011-07-28 4:40 PM, Jomar Silva wrote: > In summary: It's good to users that we support MSO files, but the real > world side effect of that is that people will keep using MSO files... > it's up to us to find a way to change the Status Quo in a smooth way It'll never happen... For better or wo

Re: [tdf-discuss] ignore m$ legacy?

2011-08-01 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2011-07-28 4:54 PM, Olivier Hallot wrote: > What you say is almost that we should give up on ODF and stick with > Microsoft formats... Not at all... > I would prefer that LO import MSO format flawlessly but not export them at > all... My same response - that eliminates LibO as an option for