Re: ublox refclock

2019-11-30 Thread Gary E. Miller via devel
Yo Trevor! On Fri, 29 Nov 2019 21:18:50 -0500 "Trevor N. via devel" wrote: > * The F9T was not in its factory configuration, so I restored its > default configuration. I then disabled all systems besides GPS, > increased the mask angle to 20 degrees, and disabled NMEA output. This is why I have

Re: ublox refclock

2019-11-30 Thread Gary E. Miller via devel
Yo Trevor! On Sat, 30 Nov 2019 00:13:18 -0500 "Trevor N. via devel" wrote: > >>I have already begun collecting F9T data with gpsd-3.19 (kernel PPS > >The results attached indicate a problem with my setup. Every 2 to 3 > >hours a one-second offset appears on SHM(1). Known bug in 3.19. The majo

Re: ublox refclock

2019-11-29 Thread Trevor N. via devel
On Fri, 29 Nov 2019 21:18:50 -0500, you wrote: >On Wed, 27 Nov 2019 22:08:48 -0500, Trevor N. >wrote: >... >>I have already begun collecting F9T data with gpsd-3.19 (kernel PPS >>enabled) through shm on the latest ntpsec. I'll post 1-day output as >>soon as it's available. >> >The results at

Re: ublox refclock

2019-11-27 Thread Gary E. Miller via devel
Yo Trevor! On Wed, 27 Nov 2019 01:31:52 -0500 "Trevor N. via devel" wrote: > >Gary E. Miller gem at rellim.com wrote > > Thank you for the comments, I have replies for each point: Talk is cheap, yet time consuming, and proves nothing. Send this list some ntpviz output showing this driver ad

RE: ublox refclock

2019-11-26 Thread Trevor N. via devel
>Gary E. Miller gem at rellim.com wrote Thank you for the comments, I have replies for each point: >Yo Udo! > >On Sun, 24 Nov 2019 09:23:19 +0100 >Udo van den Heuvel via devel wrote: > >> I cam across this ublox ntpsec refclock: >> https://gitlab.com/trv-n/ntpsec-ublox >> Would it be usable for

RE: ublox refclock

2019-11-25 Thread Trevor N. via devel
Eric S. Raymond esr at thyrsus.com : >Gary E. Miller via devel : >> > So there is nothing you recommend be merged at this time? >> >> I sorta wish NTPsec had a staging area like the Linux kernel does. >> >> There is value to a small and clean u-blox driver fully integrated >> into NTPsec. But wi

Re: ublox refclock

2019-11-25 Thread Eric S. Raymond via devel
Gary E. Miller via devel : > > So there is nothing you recommend be merged at this time? > > I sorta wish NTPsec had a staging area like the Linux kernel does. > > There is value to a small and clean u-blox driver fully integrated > into NTPsec. But without KPPS it is inferior at timekeeping. >

Re: ublox refclock

2019-11-25 Thread Achim Gratz via devel
Gary E. Miller via devel writes: > If the guy that wrote it wanted to work on it under the NTPsec umbrella > that would be good. A little guidance and the guy that wrote that could > be very useful to NTPsec. "The guy that wrote" it has last participated on this list over a year ago in this very

Re: ublox refclock

2019-11-25 Thread Gary E. Miller via devel
Yo Eric! On Mon, 25 Nov 2019 08:18:21 -0500 "Eric S. Raymond" wrote: > Gary E. Miller via devel : > > I just took a quick look at refclock_ubx.c > > > > An interesting start, [...] > So there is nothing you recommend be merged at this time? I sorta wish NTPsec had a staging area like the Linu

Re: ublox refclock

2019-11-25 Thread Eric S. Raymond via devel
Gary E. Miller via devel : > I just took a quick look at refclock_ubx.c > > An interesting start, but followup messsages today on the list are > assuming this driver does things that it does not do. > > 1) It does not, ever, config the u-blox. It does not, ever, write to > the u-blox to query it

Re: ublox refclock

2019-11-24 Thread Gary E. Miller via devel
Yo Udo! On Sun, 24 Nov 2019 09:23:19 +0100 Udo van den Heuvel via devel wrote: > I cam across this ublox ntpsec refclock: > https://gitlab.com/trv-n/ntpsec-ublox > Would it be usable for incorporation in the ntpsec tree? > (AFAIK this is a 'straight' refclock; no extra lines needed besides > rx/

Re: ublox refclock

2019-11-24 Thread Gary E. Miller via devel
Yo Richard! On Sun, 24 Nov 2019 03:44:57 -0600 Richard Laager via devel wrote: > On 11/24/19 2:23 AM, Udo van den Heuvel via devel wrote: > > I cam across this ublox ntpsec refclock: > > https://gitlab.com/trv-n/ntpsec-ublox > > That's certainly interesting. I'd personally be interested, from

Re: ublox refclock

2019-11-24 Thread Gary E. Miller via devel
Yo Udo! On Sun, 24 Nov 2019 15:08:05 +0100 Udo van den Heuvel via devel wrote: > On 24-11-2019 15:01, Eric S. Raymond wrote: > > Udo van den Heuvel : > >> I have an M8N on order, would that be compatible enough to this > >> driver? If so: I could help test etc. > > > > That can't hurt - the

Re: ublox refclock

2019-11-24 Thread Achim Gratz via devel
Eric S. Raymond via devel writes: > Not necessarily a fake; the 8N is the normal variant (without > stationary mode) and less expensive. I suspect it's the same hardware > with a different firmware load - they price-discriminate because > they think the customers for stationary mode will pay more.

Re: ublox refclock

2019-11-24 Thread Eric S. Raymond via devel
Udo van den Heuvel : > On 24-11-2019 15:01, Eric S. Raymond wrote: > > Udo van den Heuvel : > >> I have an M8N on order, would that be compatible enough to this driver? > >> If so: I could help test etc. > > > > That can't hurt - they speak the same protocol - but the big deal with > > the T varia

Re: ublox refclock

2019-11-24 Thread Udo van den Heuvel via devel
On 24-11-2019 15:11, James Browning via devel wrote: > I do not suppose this would be anything like issue 499. Different code. (?) 'straight' clock, no kernel issues identified (yet). Udo ___ devel mailing list devel@ntpsec.org http://lists.ntpsec.org/m

Re: ublox refclock

2019-11-24 Thread James Browning via devel
On Sun, Nov 24, 2019, 6:08 AM Udo van den Heuvel via devel wrote: > On 24-11-2019 15:01, Eric S. Raymond wrote: > > Udo van den Heuvel : > >> I have an M8N on order, would that be compatible enough to this driver? > >> If so: I could help test etc. > > > > That can't hurt - they speak the same pr

Re: ublox refclock

2019-11-24 Thread Udo van den Heuvel via devel
On 24-11-2019 15:01, Eric S. Raymond wrote: > Udo van den Heuvel : >> I have an M8N on order, would that be compatible enough to this driver? >> If so: I could help test etc. > > That can't hurt - they speak the same protocol - but the big deal with > the T variant os a stationary mode you don't h

Re: ublox refclock

2019-11-24 Thread Eric S. Raymond via devel
Udo van den Heuvel : > I have an M8N on order, would that be compatible enough to this driver? > If so: I could help test etc. That can't hurt - they speak the same protocol - but the big deal with the T variant os a stationary mode you don't have. -- http://www.catb.org/~esr/";>E

Re: ublox refclock

2019-11-24 Thread Udo van den Heuvel via devel
On 24-11-2019 14:18, Eric S. Raymond wrote: > Udo van den Heuvel via devel : >> I cam across this ublox ntpsec refclock: >> https://gitlab.com/trv-n/ntpsec-ublox >> Would it be usable for incorporation in the ntpsec tree? (...) > > I have filed an issue on its tracker titled "Work should be merged

Re: ublox refclock

2019-11-24 Thread Eric S. Raymond via devel
Udo van den Heuvel via devel : > I cam across this ublox ntpsec refclock: > https://gitlab.com/trv-n/ntpsec-ublox > Would it be usable for incorporation in the ntpsec tree? > (AFAIK this is a 'straight' refclock; no extra lines needed besides > rx/tx and pps) Thank you very much for bringing this

Re: ublox refclock

2019-11-24 Thread Richard Laager via devel
On 11/24/19 2:23 AM, Udo van den Heuvel via devel wrote: > I cam across this ublox ntpsec refclock: > https://gitlab.com/trv-n/ntpsec-ublox That's certainly interesting. I'd personally be interested, from a hobby/curiosity* perspective, in such a driver if it automated various configuration steps

Re: ublox refclock

2019-11-24 Thread Udo van den Heuvel via devel
Hello, I cam across this ublox ntpsec refclock: https://gitlab.com/trv-n/ntpsec-ublox Would it be usable for incorporation in the ntpsec tree? (AFAIK this is a 'straight' refclock; no extra lines needed besides rx/tx and pps) Kind regards, Udo ___ devel

Re: ublox refclock

2018-09-28 Thread Udo van den Heuvel via devel
On 29/09/2018 05:45, Gary E. Miller via devel wrote: How do you get the PPS into the host? PPS over USB is hardly good to 1 millisecond. LPT. Kind regards, Udo ___ devel mailing list devel@ntpsec.org http://lists.ntpsec.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: ublox refclock

2018-09-28 Thread Gary E. Miller via devel
Yo Udo! On Sat, 29 Sep 2018 05:38:43 +0200 Udo van den Heuvel wrote: > > I'm lost, what does USB have to do with anything? > > The ublox module https://www.csgshop.com/product.php?id_product=240 > has USB via e.g. this breakout board > https://www.csgshop.com/product.php?id_product=239; USB

Re: ublox refclock

2018-09-28 Thread Udo van den Heuvel via devel
On 28/09/2018 20:34, Gary E. Miller via devel wrote: Is there any point to it without the matching kernel driver? Tom added echo functionality to the LPT PPS client. (not yet in the kernel but we can test...) Maybe you can test, I have no way to test. So if we can have ublox data via USB, w

Re: ublox refclock

2018-09-28 Thread Gary E. Miller via devel
Yo Udo! On Fri, 28 Sep 2018 11:38:46 +0200 Udo van den Heuvel wrote: > > Is there any point to it without the matching kernel driver? > > Tom added echo functionality to the LPT PPS client. (not yet in the > kernel but we can test...) Maybe you can test, I have no way to test. > So if we c

Re: ublox refclock

2018-09-28 Thread Udo van den Heuvel via devel
Gary, On 28/09/2018 08:49, Gary E. Miller via devel wrote: On Fri, 28 Sep 2018 06:11:55 +0200 Udo van den Heuvel via devel wrote: How or when will the ublox refclock be added to ntpsec? Is there any point to it without the matching kernel driver? Tom added echo functionality to the LPT PP

Re: ublox refclock

2018-09-28 Thread Hal Murray via devel
> Is there any point to it without the matching kernel driver? Has anybody tried asking for the "echo" from user space? That is: grab time raise modem signal grab time read timestamp over serial port If you precede that with grab time lower modem signal I think that will warm up most

Re: ublox refclock

2018-09-27 Thread Gary E. Miller via devel
Yo Udo! On Fri, 28 Sep 2018 06:11:55 +0200 Udo van den Heuvel via devel wrote: > How or when will the ublox refclock be added to ntpsec? Is there any point to it without the matching kernel driver? RGDS GARY --- Gary E.