Re: INSTALL.adoc

2025-04-05 Thread Hal Murray via devel
> Change pushed. Thanks. +Alternatively you can create a link your python3 called python. Assuming Looks like a "to" got lost. create a link your create a link to your > > > Should we fix waf install to do the magic for SELinux? ... > Gentoo, Ubuntu, and others, do SELinux. BUt not by def

Re: INSTALL.adoc

2025-04-05 Thread Gary E. Miller via devel
Yo Hal! On Wed, 02 Apr 2025 23:05:55 -0700 Hal Murray wrote: > > Best to educate the user to debug his own Python issues. > > Have you looked at README-PYTHON? Nope. Non standard file name. Why would anyone look there? Actually, who ever reads any of the doc?? > I thought it was pretty g

Re: INSTALL.adoc

2025-04-05 Thread Gary E. Miller via devel
Yo Hal! On Thu, 03 Apr 2025 21:41:02 -0700 Hal Murray wrote: > >> Have you looked at README-PYTHON? > > See attached. > > Looks good. Thanks. I'll have more Friday. Mostly references. RGDS GARY --- Gary E. Miller Re

Re: INSTALL.adoc

2025-04-04 Thread Gary E. Miller via devel
Yo James! On Fri, 04 Apr 2025 14:01:44 -0700 James Browning via devel wrote: > > I already found a mistake. Bonus points if anyone finds the > > error... I should have said 'error', not "mistake". A real error, not a typo. > nstalled? no Typo? What line? Can't find that. > sist-package

Re: INSTALL.adoc

2025-04-04 Thread James Browning via devel
On Friday, April 4, 2025 1:39:04 PM Pacific Daylight Time Gary E. Miller via devel wrote: > Yo Hal! > > I just pushes some changes to README-PYTHON. > > I already found a mistake. Bonus points if anyone finds the > error... nstalled? no sist-packages? no potential mistaking dist-package for

Re: INSTALL.adoc

2025-04-04 Thread Gary E. Miller via devel
Yo James! On Fri, 04 Apr 2025 13:42:41 -0700 James Browning via devel wrote: > On Friday, April 4, 2025 1:39:04 PM Pacific Daylight Time Gary E. > Miller via devel wrote: > > Yo Hal! > > > > I just pushes some changes to README-PYTHON. > > > > I already found a mistake. Bonus points if anyone

Re: INSTALL.adoc

2025-04-04 Thread James Browning via devel
On Friday, April 4, 2025 1:39:04 PM Pacific Daylight Time Gary E. Miller via devel wrote: > Yo Hal! > > I just pushes some changes to README-PYTHON. > > I already found a mistake. Bonus points if anyone finds the > error... Is it that the backslashes don't work the way they do in markdown and

Re: INSTALL.adoc

2025-04-04 Thread Gary E. Miller via devel
Yo Hal! I just pushes some changes to README-PYTHON. I already found a mistake. Bonus points if anyone finds the error... RGDS GARY --- Gary E. Miller Rellim 109 NW Wilmington Ave., Suite E, Bend, OR 97703 g...@rell

Re: INSTALL.adoc

2025-04-04 Thread Gary E. Miller via devel
Yo Hal! I just pushes some changes to README-PYTHON. Please review. RGDS GARY --- Gary E. Miller Rellim 109 NW Wilmington Ave., Suite E, Bend, OR 97703 g...@rellim.com Tel:+1 541 382 8588 Veritas libera

Re: INSTALL.adoc

2025-04-04 Thread Gary E. Miller via devel
Yo Hal! On Tue, 01 Apr 2025 19:58:48 -0700 Hal Murray wrote: > >> That "to" looks backwards to me. I expect: > >> link python to your python3 > > python3 exists, python does not. So you create python by linking > > it to python3. As Fred says: like cp. > > The ln command looked OK to

Re: INSTALL.adoc

2025-04-03 Thread Gary E. Miller via devel
Yo Hal! On Thu, 03 Apr 2025 21:53:10 -0700 Hal Murray wrote: > [README-PYTHON] > .> What would be the standard name? > > Dunno. Never seen a file like that, so can'tany be any standard. > > I think README is a fairly common name for a file in a direcory if > you are trying to help somebody g

Re: INSTALL.adoc

2025-04-03 Thread Hal Murray via devel
[README-PYTHON] .> What would be the standard name? > Dunno. Never seen a file like that, so can'tany be any standard. I think README is a fairly common name for a file in a direcory if you are trying to help somebody get started. It's common enough that it has a Wikipedia page. https://en.w

Re: INSTALL.adoc

2025-04-03 Thread Hal Murray via devel
>> Have you looked at README-PYTHON? > See attached. Looks good. Thanks. +When building NTPSec for installtion, the install procedure asks the installtion => installation +current python for the proper locatiopn to install the python modules. locatiopn => location (Fixed in Fedora 39, Sep-

Re: INSTALL.adoc

2025-04-03 Thread Gary E. Miller via devel
Yo Hal! On Wed, 02 Apr 2025 23:05:55 -0700 Hal Murray wrote: > > Best to educate the user to debug his own Python issues. > > Have you looked at README-PYTHON? See attached. RGDS GARY --- Gary E. Miller Rellim 109 N

Re: INSTALL.adoc

2025-04-03 Thread Gary E. Miller via devel
Yo Hal! On Thu, 03 Apr 2025 13:31:11 -0700 Hal Murray wrote: > Gary said: > >> Have you looked at README-PYTHON? > > Nope. Non standard file name. Why would anyone look there? > > What would be the standard name? Dunno. Never seen a file like that, so can'tany be any standard. READM? I

Re: INSTALL.adoc

2025-04-03 Thread Hal Murray via devel
Gary said: >> Have you looked at README-PYTHON? > Nope. Non standard file name. Why would anyone look there? What would be the standard name? > Actually, who ever reads any of the doc?? It's referenced in 2 other docs: INSTALL.adoc:More info in README-PYTHON. NEWS.adoc: See README-PYT

Re: INSTALL.adoc

2025-04-02 Thread Hal Murray via devel
> Best to educate the user to debug his own Python issues. Have you looked at README-PYTHON? I thought it was pretty good. If you think a paragraph or whatever about PEP would help, please add it. I think a short paragraph with a link to the long version would be a good addition, but I don't

Re: INSTALL.adoc

2025-04-02 Thread Gary E. Miller via devel
Yo Hal! On Wed, 02 Apr 2025 13:14:33 -0700 Hal Murray wrote: > g...@rellim.com said: > >> I'll punt on any distros where it's not on by default. > >> I may try it for Fedora, but not until after the release. > > Any distros that do not have 'python' are broken, not PEP > > compliant. And a bug

Re: INSTALL.adoc

2025-04-02 Thread Hal Murray via devel
g...@rellim.com said: >> I'll punt on any distros where it's not on by default. >> I may try it for Fedora, but not until after the release. > Any distros that do not have 'python' are broken, not PEP compliant. And > a bug should be filed upstream. Sorry, I didn't quote enough context. My "af

Re: INSTALL.adoc

2025-04-02 Thread Gary E. Miller via devel
Yo Hal! On Tue, 01 Apr 2025 23:41:14 -0700 Hal Murray wrote: > > Change pushed. > > Thanks. > > +Alternatively you can create a link your python3 called python. > Assuming > > Looks like a "to" got lost. > create a link your > create a link to your Damn. Fixed. Thanks. > I'll punt

Re: INSTALL.adoc

2025-04-01 Thread Hal Murray via devel
>> That "to" looks backwards to me. I expect: >> link python to your python3 > python3 exists, python does not. So you create python by linking > it to python3. As Fred says: like cp. The ln command looked OK to me. I was commenting about the descriptive text. To me, "to" has an arrow fr

Re: INSTALL.adoc

2025-04-01 Thread Gary E. Miller via devel
Yo Fred! On Tue, 1 Apr 2025 16:23:10 -0700 (PDT) Fred Wright via devel wrote: > On Tue, 1 Apr 2025, Gary E. Miller via devel wrote: > > On Mon, 31 Mar 2025 20:52:30 -0700 > > Hal Murray wrote: > [...] > > Alternatively, you can create a link to you python3, called python. > > Like so: > > > >

Re: INSTALL.adoc

2025-04-01 Thread Fred Wright via devel
On Tue, 1 Apr 2025, Gary E. Miller via devel wrote: On Mon, 31 Mar 2025 20:52:30 -0700 Hal Murray wrote: [...] Alternatively, you can create a link to you python3, called python. Like so: ln -s /usr/bin/python3 /usr/bin/python That command line doesn't work on FreeBSD or NetBSD Yeah, *B

Re: INSTALL.adoc

2025-04-01 Thread Gary E. Miller via devel
ah, *BSD are weird. tell me how you do it, and I'll add that as well. > I have fixed buildprep to include the package that sets up "python" > That's on Fedora, Debian, FreeBSD, and Alpine Linux. Then INSTALL.adoc should point to that. > buildprep has some python2 cr

Re: INSTALL.adoc

2025-04-01 Thread Fred Wright via devel
On Tue, 1 Apr 2025, James Browning via devel wrote: On Monday, March 31, 2025 8:52:30 PM Pacific Daylight Time Hal Murray via devel wrote: buildprep has some python2 cruft. I ignored it. Should we announce that it no longer works for python 2 and clean it up a bit? Don't let Fred, Gary or

Re: INSTALL.adoc

2025-04-01 Thread James Browning via devel
On Monday, March 31, 2025 8:52:30 PM Pacific Daylight Time Hal Murray via devel wrote: > > +Alternatively you can link your python3 to python. > > +`ln -s /usr/bin/python3 /usr/bin/python` > > That "to" looks backwards to me. I expect: > link python to your python3 Or, you could symlink "py

Re: INSTALL.adoc

2025-03-31 Thread Frank Nicholas via devel
> On Apr 1, 2025, at 12:10 AM, Fred Wright via devel wrote: > > > On Mon, 31 Mar 2025, Hal Murray via devel wrote: > >>> +Alternatively you can link your python3 to python. >>> +`ln -s /usr/bin/python3 /usr/bin/python` >> >> That "to" looks backwards to me. I expect: >> link python to your

Re: INSTALL.adoc

2025-03-31 Thread Fred Wright via devel
On Mon, 31 Mar 2025, Hal Murray via devel wrote: +Alternatively you can link your python3 to python. +`ln -s /usr/bin/python3 /usr/bin/python` That "to" looks backwards to me. I expect: link python to your python3 Yes, but 'ln' is like 'cp', so you put the source first. Fred Wright __

INSTALL.adoc

2025-03-31 Thread Hal Murray via devel
> +Alternatively you can link your python3 to python. > +`ln -s /usr/bin/python3 /usr/bin/python` That "to" looks backwards to me. I expect: link python to your python3 That command line doesn't work on FreeBSD or NetBSD FreeBSD: $ which python3 /usr/local/bin/python3 $ NetBSD: $ which