Supposedly leap seconds are going to be formally abandoned in a little
more than a decade; but that conveniently ignores the vagaries of the
earth's wobbling, which are not deterministic, so it's just a different
kind of folly by our fellow meat puppets.
On 12/22/2022 23:13 PM, James Browning
On 12/21/2022 14:29 PM, Fred Wright via devel wrote:
On Wed, 21 Dec 2022, Matt Selsky via devel wrote:
This is only a 2 minute delay, if I converted all timestamps to UTC
correctly.
My last post was delayed 11 minutes, which is longer than it should be,
but not awful.
I did find that a spammer
cently cached? Something else to look at.
On 11/21/2022 16:13 PM, Paul Theodoropoulos via devel wrote:
And this reply took about one minute thirty seconds round-trip.
Screws up the line, but in a good way.
On 11/21/2022 16:10 PM, Paul Theodoropoulos via devel wrote:
Inserted into stream:
Mon, 2
Seven seconds round-trip. I'd say the issues are formally mitigated.
On 11/21/2022 16:13 PM, Paul Theodoropoulos via devel wrote:
And this reply took about one minute thirty seconds round-trip.
Screws up the line, but in a good way.
On 11/21/2022 16:10 PM, Paul Theodoropoulos via devel
And this reply took about one minute thirty seconds round-trip.
Screws up the line, but in a good way.
On 11/21/2022 16:10 PM, Paul Theodoropoulos via devel wrote:
Inserted into stream:
Mon, 21 Nov 2022 15:09:32 -0800
Received here:
Mon, 21 Nov 2022 15:46:32 -0800
So, about 3 hours, down to
Inserted into stream:
Mon, 21 Nov 2022 15:09:32 -0800
Received here:
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So, about 3 hours, down to about 90 minutes, down to about 37 minutes.
Pretty smooth line.
Return-path:
Envelope-to:p...@anastrophe.com
Delivery-date: Mon, 21 Nov 2022 15:46:32 -0800
Received
Better. Dropped 18:54:41, delivered 20:22:26, so an hour thirty minutes roughly.
Return-path:
Envelope-to:p...@anastrophe.com
Delivery-date: Sun, 20 Nov 2022 20:22:26 -0800
Received: from mx.ntpsec.org ([140.211.9.57]:45636)
by relay.anastrophe.com with esmtps (TLS1.3) tls
TLS_ECDHE_RSA
Apparently submitted at:
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Received here (also on US West coast):
Sunday, 20 Nov 2022 15:09:33 -0800
Three hours is certainly dramatically better than the three months we were
seeing.
Full header if it helps analysis:
Return-path:
Envelope-to:p...@anastroph
Speaking of laggy, this just showed up in my inbox today, June 13, at
06:52:20 -0700.
I spent a large portion of my systems administrator career building and
managing mailservers. I'd be happy to assist if I can - regrettably
though, I don't have direct experience with Postfix - the MTA involv
Any updates on this? I don't see a 1.2.0 release on gitlab.
On 9/21/2020 8:50 AM, Mark Atwood via devel wrote:
On Fri, Sep 18, 2020, at 13:33, Daniel Franke wrote:
The normative content of the RFC is not going to change. There's no
reason to hold back any release while waiting for publication.
The /etc/network/interfaces file, _in its default state upon
installation_, is written for use with dhcpcd. You can modify it however
you like though. I don't use dhcpcd, so:
root@ A-ntpVIZ: ~ # systemctl stop dhcpcd && systemctl disable dhcpcd
root@ A-ntpVIZ: ~ # cat /etc/network/interfaces
#
On 6/9/2020 16:18 PM, Paul Theodoropoulos via devel wrote:
Yes, it is nonsensical that changing it to root:ntp would make the cert
file harder to read - because that's not what I did.
s/harder/easier/
--
Paul Theodoropoulos
www.anastroph
On 6/9/2020 10:51 AM, Paul Theodoropoulos via devel wrote:
On 6/9/2020 3:51 AM, Hal Murray wrote:
I can't figure out how changing something from ntp:ntp to root:ntp is
going to
allow ntpd to read it. Could you say more?
If it tries to read pre-drop root, it is still root and can
On 6/9/2020 3:51 AM, Hal Murray wrote:
When I recently installed 3.19 from repo on the new 'raspberry pi os (64
bit)', I had to change /etc/letsencrypt from ownership ntp:ntp to root:ntp
in order to get past the 'permission denied' errors.
3.19 sounds more like a GPSD version. Did you update nt
On 6/8/2020 23:09 PM, ASSI via devel wrote:
Sanjeev Gupta via devel writes:
The file:
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 3558 May 9 09:39
fullchain28.pem
can't stat certificate (chain) from
/etc/letsencrypt/live/ntpmon.dcs1.biz/fullchain.pem: Permission denied
It seem
I just noticed that Cloudflare's documentation for NTS -
https://developers.cloudflare.com/time-services/nts/usage/
links to the NTPsec quickstart page -
https://docs.ntpsec.org/latest/quick.html
which only discusses NTP, rather than NTS.
The correct destination would be
https://docs.ntpsec.
Just a shot in the dark, but it looks to me like an errant overly-greedy
cron job or systemd timer - perhaps something else is polling the serial
port on a schedule. If you set up hourly graphs you might be able to
correlate it with something else firing on the server at those intervals.
Unfor
PYTHONPATH=/usr/local/lib/python3.7/dist-packages/
and the waf configure picked up the 3.19 package, thus building and
installing ntploggps.
On 9/21/2019 19:27 PM, Matthew Selsky wrote:
On Sat, Sep 21, 2019 at 01:09:30PM -0700, Paul Theodoropoulos via devel wrote:
On 9/21/2019 13:00 PM,
On 9/21/2019 13:00 PM, James Browning wrote:
On Sat, Sep 21, 2019, 12:55 PM Paul Theodoropoulos via devel
mailto:devel@ntpsec.org>> wrote:
Just a quick note, as I'm vetting all my installations - after running
'./waf configure --refclock=all', followed by '
Just a quick note, as I'm vetting all my installations - after running
'./waf configure --refclock=all', followed by './waf install', all of the
applications in main/ntpclients are installed - except for ntploggps.
I don't know the magic of waf sufficiently to point to why, where, or how
it i
Forgive my ignorance here, but - what does the stylized 'X' in the subject
line signify? I've only run across it here on the ntpsec list and the gpsd
list...
On 8/19/2019 18:49 PM, Gary E. Miller via devel wrote:
Yo Matthew!
On Tue, 20 Aug 2019 01:42:50 +
Matthew Selsky wrote:
On Mon,
On 9/28/2018 21:58 PM, Gary E. Miller via devel wrote:
No every OS, not even every Linux, uses systemd. NTPsec needs generic
solutions.
I'm aware. But it can be an option, included, of course. The ntpsec source
includes SystemV startup files, systemd startup and timers, xBSD startup,
etc. It
On 9/28/2018 20:56 PM, Hal Murray wrote:
Agreed, mostly. There is a big difference between the traffic from a few
geeks occasionally downloading a file and a swarm of systems downloading from
a cron job.
Years ago, a friend introduced me to a great term. I asked him what happens
if his applica
On 9/28/2018 19:06 PM, Hal Murray via devel wrote:
Plan B would be to host a copy of the file ourselves. Then we can update it
as appropriate and we can beef up the server if the load becomes significant.
That's a commitment to long term service.
I'm just a random jackass on the Internet, so hap
On 9/21/2018 10:58 AM, Sanjeev Gupta wrote:
Yes, having a sentence ...
The change in the value of the residual, after 2 hours or 35
iterations, should not exceed 23
ppm is a requirement of various standards, among which are NIST 543:62
and FIPS
180 published in 2017.
... is slightly confusin
may wind up doing a line break? I guess it could be
case-by-case, if a test conversion has it happen, insert one there.
--
Sanjeev Gupta
+65 98551208 http://www.linkedin.com/in/ghane
On Thu, Sep 20, 2018 at 3:56 AM Paul Theodoropoulos via devel
mailto:devel@ntpsec.org>> wrote:
NIST has a page of guidelines for formatting units in documents -
https://physics.nist.gov/cuu/Units/checklist.html
I am conforming unit presentation within the various documents I'm
editing to use the guidelines, mostly #15:
There is a space between the numerical value and unit symbol, ev
On 9/17/2018 18:20 PM, James Browning via devel wrote:
III. Document updates from me and Paul.
IV. Teach Paul how to do a git push --force and variants just kidding
Heh! Believe me, I'm trying in earnest to get my head appropriately
wrapped around the intricacies of forking ntpsec, maintaining
On 9/6/2018 18:49 PM, MIKE MAJOR via devel wrote:
I have another branch in the queue. It creates directories and
permissions on /var/lib/ntp & /var/log/ntpstats in clockmaker. These
directories are not created by clockmaker. Evidence of the missing
directories were the errors showing up in the
On 8/8/2018 19:38 PM, Gary E. Miller via devel wrote:
My suggestion has been to do a normal gpsd install so that the
binarieris are in /usr/local. Another common problem has been people
with three installed gpsd at the same time: /usr/bin, /usr/local/bin and
in their ~.
Yes! - since these inst
On 8/8/2018 19:39 PM, MIKE MAJOR via devel wrote:
||
|As I said before, this is my first interaction with a well-organized
project. I have read about git and branches and cloning repositories
and diffs and submitting patches and merge requests. I've just never
done any of it before. I want to
On 8/8/2018 19:15 PM, MIKE MAJOR via devel wrote:
I see my mistake now. I read the first 2 lines below to be the same
when they are not: |
|
|# ./gpsd/gpsmon /dev/gpsd0||
|
|# ./gpsd/gpsd /dev/gpsd0
|
|# ./gpsd/ntpshmmon|
One process change I would like to make is to have the user cd into the
On 8/7/2018 20:15 PM, MIKE MAJOR via devel wrote:
Hello all,
I found another issue and then hit a hard stop.
In the HOWTO section "Live-test the GPS", the reader is instructed to
build gpsd using:
|$scons timeservice=yes magic_hat=yes nmea0183=yes
fixed_port_speed=9600 fixed_stop_bits=1 Whe
On 8/6/2018 20:39 PM, Richard Laager via devel wrote:
As to which to use... It seems to me that it's advantageous to _not_
hard-code the version number whenever possible, as that makes the HOWTO
resilient across upgrades. That would argue for ncurses-dev or
libncurses-dev. On the other hand, plen
On 8/6/2018 20:00 PM, MIKE MAJOR via devel wrote:
This evening I was reading through the Clockmaker script closer. I
noticed that the prerequisite ncurses-dev is not a real debian
package. I've read ahead in the HOWTO text and I see that later the
package ncurses5-dev is asked to be installed.
On 8/1/2018 12:33 PM, Gary E. Miller via devel wrote:
Yeah, all that is needed is dd. Forget the rest.
I 'spose. I find it convenient when burning test images while playing
around with stuff just to move quickly - but at this point I should
probably just throw a blanket "but maybe I'm an outl
On 8/1/2018 2:41 AM, Eric S. Raymond wrote:
OK, I'd be open to adding some clarifying visual elements.
At this point you probably need to study up on asciidoc to know what is
possible.
gack. I typed 'man asciidoc' and of course it's not installed by default
in debian. So I went to install it, an
On 7/31/2018 20:53 PM, Eric S. Raymond wrote:
You big polishing patchset has just been integrated. It was excellent
work;
thanks.
Thank you, Eric.
The reason it's that way is because I hate with a bitter and
incandescent passion the kind of HOWTO that baldly lays out a series
of steps withou
On 7/30/18 20:46, Gary E. Miller via devel wrote:
We found a lot of people that wanted a cheap stratum 1 had not clue
how to get a RasPi to work. Thus the completer instructions.
...
Please do. Especialy with a fresh eye. We dont know what newbies
don't know.
...
I like to think of that as
---
docs/includes/ntpviz-body.txt | 61 ++-
1 file changed, 20 insertions(+), 41 deletions(-)
diff --git a/docs/includes/ntpviz-body.txt b/docs/includes/ntpviz-body.txt
index 1329ba4f4..dca76218c 100644
--- a/docs/includes/ntpviz-body.txt
+++ b/docs/include
---
docs/includes/ntpviz-body.txt | 39 +++
1 file changed, 19 insertions(+), 20 deletions(-)
diff --git a/docs/includes/ntpviz-body.txt b/docs/includes/ntpviz-body.txt
index 3c2eeb4d6..1329ba4f4 100644
--- a/docs/includes/ntpviz-body.txt
+++ b/docs/includes/nt
On 6/19/18 12:28, Gary E. Miller via devel wrote:
Eric: do you have a URL for Paul that would provide him guidance?
Every link I found assumed git proficiency.
There's so many resources on the net for git, I'm quite certain I can
find something that'll get me there.
In the meantime I can ce
On 6/19/18 12:05, Eric S. Raymond via devel wrote:
Gary E. Miller via devel :
Git relatively new to all of us.
ESR suggested I perform a 'pull', and request that Gary have a look
at it. Herewith. I've probably overlooked some other step, but
perhaps not.
'git pull' just gets you an up to date
I did some copyediting on the output of ntpviz (some typos, some minor
rewording). I'm largely a git with regard to git, only knowing the most
basic commands (I have expert facility with 'git clone').
ESR suggested I perform a 'pull', and request that Gary have a look at
it. Herewith. I've pr
Shit. Yes, that's a big old 'duh' here on my part. Sorry for the list noise.
On 10/11/2017 16:34 PM, Hal Murray wrote:
Did you feed the same parameters to waf configure? Did you forget to include
the SHM driver?
Check your log files to see what it says about SHM.
--
Paul Theodoropoulos
www
Hey there everyone,
I've been running ntpsec-0.9.7 for a while now on Raspian 9.1. I
downloaded ntpsec-1.0.0 this afternoon, followed the build and install
instructions, no errors, but when I start up timeservice - it simply
does not see the GPS at all. Are there different requirements when
u
On 9/15/17 12:16, Hal Murray via devel wrote:
My straw man is that we will support our current code in all versions of
major OSes that are supported by the vendor. But I haven't figured out what
"support" means. Does it include old versions? How old?
What happens to conservative organizations
On 9/7/17 12:55, Gary E. Miller via devel wrote:> Yes, and it must be.
The load on the server from that page is large,
more than a few users overloads the server.
But it is the only real time and accurate way to know what is working.
That's fine of course, it's simply that it was offered in an
On 9/7/17 12:47, Gary E. Miller via devel wrote:
Eric: Do we have a list of OSes and hardware where ntpsec is known
to build and work?
buildbot.ntpsec.org.
Just fyi, that page is htpasswd protected.
--
Paul Theodoropoulos
www.anastrophe.com
___
d
On 7/8/17 3:06 PM, Hal Murray wrote:
devel@ntpsec.org said:
Since it's not in the git repo, I'm not sure what the best way would be to
provide a verifiable change set.
It's off in a separate repository.
Look at https://gitlab.com/NTPsec/
Ah, sweet - I'll check it out, thank you.
--
Paul Th
Howdy,
I just finished migrating my Raspberry Pi from classical NTP to NTPsec.
I used the howto here:
https://www.ntpsec.org/white-papers/stratum-1-microserver-howto/
There are a number of errors - small - procedural, ordering, spelling,
etc. - in the paper. I'd happily provide corrections
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