Re: [SailfishDevel] Open source in-app ad API helper for QML - please, join

2016-06-02 Thread Zoltán Lutor
Hi, before Nokia collapsed it could happen to get daily 30+ USD from Vserv ads with a not so big JTME application portfolio... So, it is more promising than the donation model then... :) Br, Zoltan 2016-06-02 22:22 GMT+02:00 Matthias Fehring : > My experiences with donations: > > Many talk abo

Re: [SailfishDevel] Open source in-app ad API helper for QML - please, join

2016-06-02 Thread Matthias Fehring
My experiences with donations: Many talk about but only really few do really donate. But this few mostly donates more as I would charge for selling the app. For example, I had ocNews as paid app in the Ovi Store for Meego and I think it was in a price range of 1,99€ for Germany (other countries

Re: [SailfishDevel] Open source in-app ad API helper for QML - please, join

2016-06-02 Thread Dylan Van Assche
I receive donations from 1/100 users... I was also planning to change to inApp Payments... Dylan Original Message Subject: Re: [SailfishDevel] Open source in-app ad API helper for QML - please, join Local Time: June 2, 2016 8:27 PM UTC Time: June 2, 2016 6:27 PM From

Re: [SailfishDevel] Open source in-app ad API helper for QML - please, join

2016-06-02 Thread george b
Some experiences from me as a former iOS Developer: - With a good payed app, one can earn a some money - A free app with InApp Payment for more features leads to more revenue on my apps - iAd leads to almost no revenue. On iOS one need several thousends of App installations to get just a little re

Re: [SailfishDevel] Open source in-app ad API helper for QML - please, join

2016-05-31 Thread Zoltán Lutor
thx, I was aware of the post - unfortunatell I cannot participate because I'll be in work. Anyone of you, please, feel free to bring this topics up there. 2016-05-31 17:33 GMT+02:00 Coley : > Check out this topic over on together: > > https://together.jolla.com/question/54157/sailfishos-open-sour

Re: [SailfishDevel] Open source in-app ad API helper for QML - please, join

2016-05-31 Thread Zoltán Lutor
thx Krisztian! Any contribution is more than welcome. If no time for coding, ideas, reviewing&commenting is also nice to have. Especially on: - how to display content received in HTML format from ad server. Currently it is WebView - how to detect if user clicked on ad - inside WebView - how to

Re: [SailfishDevel] Open source in-app ad API helper for QML - please, join

2016-05-31 Thread Coley
Check out this topic over on together: https://together.jolla.com/question/54157/sailfishos-open-source-collaboration-meeting-planning/ On 31 May 2016 at 16:18, wrote: > Good comment. > > > Newbie in community development, no experience with IRC... ;-) > > Coley írta ekkor: 2016.05.31. 16:56 >

Re: [SailfishDevel] Open source in-app ad API helper for QML - please, join

2016-05-31 Thread Krisztian Olah
I really like this idea, with the addition that they'd get flagged in the store, so that the end user can decide beforehand whether they want to install it or not, alas that's entirely up to Jolla. I'd like to contribute in the near future, but in the next couple of months I am super busy, like

Re: [SailfishDevel] Open source in-app ad API helper for QML - please, join

2016-05-31 Thread zoltan . lutor
Good comment. Newbie in community development, no experience with IRC... ;-) Coley írta ekkor: 2016.05.31. 16:56 Why not propose it as a topic for the IRC meeting and attend? There are normally a few Jolla people on it - and if nobody can answer your question maybe they can take an AI to find

Re: [SailfishDevel] Open source in-app ad API helper for QML - please, join

2016-05-31 Thread zoltan . lutor
Hi, I would be more than happy if you try it on Ubuntu. If you could contribute improving how received HTML content is displayed - in WebView currently -, that would be awsome... Especially missing how to navigate to external browser when user clicks on displayed ad... And how to detect if c

Re: [SailfishDevel] Open source in-app ad API helper for QML - please, join

2016-05-31 Thread Coley
Why not propose it as a topic for the IRC meeting and attend? There are normally a few Jolla people on it - and if nobody can answer your question maybe they can take an AI to find the answer for you. -Coley. On 31 May 2016 at 15:46, wrote: > I've tried to contact them already - even for gettin

Re: [SailfishDevel] Open source in-app ad API helper for QML - please, join

2016-05-31 Thread zoltan . lutor
I've tried to contact them already - even for getting invokved with the development. No reaction so far... Camil Bancioiu írta ekkor: 2016.05.31. 11:55 Hello Zoltan, I hope you will find help with your SDK. Not because I like ads (I don't), but because the platform is free, and everybody sh

Re: [SailfishDevel] Open source in-app ad API helper for QML - please, join

2016-05-31 Thread Zoltán Lutor
Hi, It is almost pure QML/Javascript. There are a few C++ classs but thet can be dropped if WebView is recent enough (has loadHtml method). Br, Zoltan 2016-05-31 16:06 GMT+02:00 Michael Hall : > Hi Zoltan, > > I'd be interested in trying to get this working in Ubuntu Touch apps. It > would b

Re: [SailfishDevel] Open source in-app ad API helper for QML - please, join

2016-05-31 Thread Michael Hall
Hi Zoltan, I'd be interested in trying to get this working in Ubuntu Touch apps. It would be easier if it was pure QML though, is there anything in the C++ code that couldn't be done in Javascript? Michael Hall mhall...@ubuntu.com On 05/30/2016 02:48 PM, Zoltán Lutor wrote: > I've progressed wit

Re: [SailfishDevel] Open source in-app ad API helper for QML - please, join

2016-05-31 Thread Dylan Van Assche
t: Re: [SailfishDevel] Open source in-app ad API helper for QML - please, join Local Time: May 31, 2016 2:34 PM UTC Time: May 31, 2016 12:34 PM From: claudio.campe...@studio.unibo.it To: devel@lists.sailfishos.org hi, sorry to chime in late in the discussion but I was at work. Few months ago I thought about bui

Re: [SailfishDevel] Open source in-app ad API helper for QML - please, join

2016-05-31 Thread Claudio Campeggi
please, join (Tone Kastlunger) -- Message: 1 Date: Tue, 31 May 2016 12:55:33 +0300 From: Camil Bancioiu To: devel@lists.sailfishos.org Subject: Re: [SailfishDevel] Open source in-app ad API helper for QML -

Re: [SailfishDevel] Open source in-app ad API helper for QML - please, join

2016-05-31 Thread Tone Kastlunger
@Camil Bancioiu your concerns are very well based, but I can tell per experience Jolla QA did not mind the ad in my app back then. Best, tk On Tue, May 31, 2016 at 12:55 PM, Camil Bancioiu < ioan.camil.banci...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hello Zoltan, > > I hope you will find help with your SDK. Not be

Re: [SailfishDevel] Open source in-app ad API helper for QML - please, join

2016-05-31 Thread Camil Bancioiu
Hello Zoltan, I hope you will find help with your SDK. Not because I like ads (I don't), but because the platform is free, and everybody should implement what they think it's best. But first, you should talk to Jolla, because they're the ones that will eventually allow apps with your ad-SDK in

Re: [SailfishDevel] Open source in-app ad API helper for QML - please, join

2016-05-31 Thread Zoltán Lutor
@Tone: Definitely it would be good to have some! But it is out of my reach ATM... :) I go for ads ATM - willingness to join? 2016-05-31 11:16 GMT+02:00 Tone Kastlunger : > @ZLutor actually, it would be very interesting to have IAp based on Paypal > / Flattr / Bitcoin / younameit! > > On Tue, May

Re: [SailfishDevel] Open source in-app ad API helper for QML - please, join

2016-05-31 Thread Tone Kastlunger
@ZLutor actually, it would be very interesting to have IAp based on Paypal / Flattr / Bitcoin / younameit! On Tue, May 31, 2016 at 11:51 AM, Zoltán Lutor wrote: > @Tone: "with my app where I had included ads" - what ad library do you > use on Sailfish? > I was not aware of anything available the

Re: [SailfishDevel] Open source in-app ad API helper for QML - please, join

2016-05-31 Thread Zoltán Lutor
@Tone: "with my app where I had included ads" - what ad library do you use on Sailfish? I was not aware of anything available there. Especially nothing for Qt/QML... 2016-05-31 8:58 GMT+02:00 Tone Kastlunger : > This is an excellent discussion point; I believe this is a very clear > aspect of the

Re: [SailfishDevel] Open source in-app ad API helper for QML - please, join

2016-05-31 Thread Zoltán Lutor
Yes, My preferred choice would also be IAp - but that is non-exsitent in Sailfish. On the other hand advertisement has its own place in monetization chain, too. the problem is when it is used in crazy, clueless way - as it is nowadays in general... But here it comes the positive example in our co

Re: [SailfishDevel] Open source in-app ad API helper for QML - please, join

2016-05-31 Thread Zoltán Lutor
Hi, It is a good feature candidate then in this 'sdk' - we can built in donation via e.g. PayPal and if that happened, no ads will be shown any more... Thx for the idea... If you added it as an issue to the BitBucket project you could track the progress it in the future! Br, Zoltan 2016-05-31

Re: [SailfishDevel] Open source in-app ad API helper for QML - please, join

2016-05-31 Thread Andrew Branson
On 31/05/2016 9:36 am, Tone Kastlunger wrote: A better approach would be a toolkit for unlocking extra/full functionality through easy donations/micropayments. There was already a suggestion in a community meeting to implement the Qt Purchasing API for this, as an alternative >to paid store

Re: [SailfishDevel] Open source in-app ad API helper for QML - please, join

2016-05-31 Thread Tone Kastlunger
>A better approach would be a toolkit for unlocking extra/full functionality through easy donations/micropayments. There was already a suggestion in a community meeting to implement the Qt Purchasing API for this, as an alternative >to paid store apps (which I also disagree with because of the DRM

Re: [SailfishDevel] Open source in-app ad API helper for QML - please, join

2016-05-31 Thread Andrew Branson
I don't think ad experiences on Android is be relevant elsewhere. Android is an ad-saturated platform - it's become so easy to put ads in Android apps that its users have either become desensitized to them, or they've taken steps to disable them. They breed contempt in the developer for their u

Re: [SailfishDevel] Open source in-app ad API helper for QML - please, join

2016-05-31 Thread Martin Kolman
Tue, 31 May 2016 07:13:33 + Peter Kovacs: Ads are a classic earn design. As buying an App. Some Open Source enthusiasts are oppose these ways. And you find them in the Jolla Platform, because jolla is much closer to these idealistic views then Apple or Android. I personally don't not min

Re: [SailfishDevel] Open source in-app ad API helper for QML - please, join

2016-05-31 Thread Peter Kovacs
Ads are a classic earn design. As buying an App. Some Open Source enthusiasts are oppose these ways. And you find them in the Jolla Platform, because jolla is much closer to these idealistic views then Apple or Android. I personally don't not mind Ads, if I can switch them off for a donation/buyof

Re: [SailfishDevel] Open source in-app ad API helper for QML - please, join

2016-05-30 Thread Tone Kastlunger
This is an excellent discussion point; I believe this is a very clear aspect of the key problem of SFOS at the moment - the whole point of SFOS is to DIFFERENTIATE itself from android. Note : I love coding for SFOS, it's inspiring and motivating. Sure, it has it's limitations and quirks, but still

Re: [SailfishDevel] Open source in-app ad API helper for QML - please, join

2016-05-30 Thread zoltan . lutor
Yes, that is how it is. Paid model does not work for masses - maybe iOS is exception to some extent... I fully understand those who are fed up with annoying ads - just like me, too. But it does not imply ads are evil as such. Just they have to be placed carefully and accordingly... Anyway, I j

Re: [SailfishDevel] Open source in-app ad API helper for QML - please, join

2016-05-30 Thread Andrew Penkrat
I want to add my experience from the developer's point of view. I have an Android app with about 1000 installations (and 100 active users). This app has ads as well as an option to disable them for a $2 donation. Nobody ever activated this option. So most probably I won't be able to get any revenu

Re: [SailfishDevel] Open source in-app ad API helper for QML - please, join

2016-05-30 Thread Martin Kolman
Mon, 30 May 2016 19:32:54 + Alexey Andreyev: Hello, Zoltán! :) Feel free to criticize me, but... ads in our jolla? No, thanks! :) I subscribe to this - while I understand developers are looking for revenue streams I really like how current native Sailfish OS apps are pretty much add free (f

Re: [SailfishDevel] Open source in-app ad API helper for QML - please, join

2016-05-30 Thread Andrey Kozhevnikov
evel] Open source in-app ad API helper for QML - please, join Hello, Zoltán! :) Feel free to criticize me, but... ads in our jolla? No, thanks! :) I guess if you are a developer it make sence to ask for donations / create non-free apps, but please, no ads at all. (Espesially with additional web

Re: [SailfishDevel] Open source in-app ad API helper for QML - please, join

2016-05-30 Thread Alexey Andreyev
Hello, Zoltán! :) Feel free to criticize me, but... ads in our jolla? No, thanks! :) I guess if you are a developer it make sence to ask for donations / create non-free apps, but please, no ads at all. (Espesially with additional web engine module loaded eating my resources) Again, this is just my

[SailfishDevel] Open source in-app ad API helper for QML - please, join

2016-05-30 Thread Zoltán Lutor
I've progressed with implementing an open source wrapper for Vserv RESTful advertisement API in QML. Quote from API description: Vserv provides a simple HTTP based API to publishers/developers and other ad networks, etc. to fetch ads for mobile sites or mobile applications. The mobile device / ser