@Tone: Definitely it would be good to have some! But it is out of my reach ATM... :) I go for ads ATM - willingness to join?
2016-05-31 11:16 GMT+02:00 Tone Kastlunger <users.giulie...@gmail.com>: > @ZLutor actually, it would be very interesting to have IAp based on Paypal > / Flattr / Bitcoin / younameit! > > On Tue, May 31, 2016 at 11:51 AM, Zoltán Lutor <zoltan.lu...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> @Tone: "with my app where I had included ads" - what ad library do you >> use on Sailfish? >> I was not aware of anything available there. Especially nothing for >> Qt/QML... >> >> 2016-05-31 8:58 GMT+02:00 Tone Kastlunger <users.giulie...@gmail.com>: >> >>> This is an excellent discussion point; I believe this is a very clear >>> aspect of the key problem of SFOS at the moment - the whole point of SFOS >>> is to DIFFERENTIATE itself from android. >>> >>> Note : I love coding for SFOS, it's inspiring and motivating. Sure, it >>> has it's limitations and quirks, but still, its a great experience IMHO. >>> >>> The facts are that, if you ask someone the question: "Would you mind ads >>> in app XX?" they will reply "Hell NO". >>> But nevertheless, if app XX gets published with ads, and the app is >>> good, nobody will care about the ads, and use it anyways. >>> >>> So, this can mean that: >>> >>> 1) nobody wants ads >>> 2) nobody cares if they are there, tho >>> >>> My experience has been a harsh rejection of ads by the jolla community, >>> with my app where I had included ads. >>> In the timeframe the app had ads included, I noticed two trends : >>> a) people who stopped using the app completely due to the adds >>> b) people who kept on using it (hence rule 2) applies). >>> >>> I'd wonder if codign a SFOS app with ads and publish it as an Android >>> app on the jolla store will actually fix things? >>> >>> >>> On Tue, May 31, 2016 at 8:20 AM, <zoltan.lu...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Yes, that is how it is. Paid model does not work for masses - maybe iOS >>>> is exception to some extent... >>>> >>>> >>>> I fully understand those who are fed up with annoying ads - just like >>>> me, too. >>>> >>>> >>>> But it does not imply ads are evil as such. Just they have to be placed >>>> carefully and accordingly... >>>> >>>> >>>> Anyway, I just wanted to invite other developers for helping me >>>> finishing this 'sdk'... >>>> >>>> >>>> Zoltán >>>> >>>> Andrew Penkrat írta ekkor: 2016.05.30. 23:46 >>>> I want to add my experience from the developer's point of view. I have >>>> an Android app with about 1000 installations (and 100 active users). This >>>> app has ads as well as an option to disable them for a $2 donation. >>>> >>>> Nobody ever activated this option. So most probably I won't be able to >>>> get any revenue from the app without ads. >>>> >>>> 2016-05-30 23:22 GMT+03:00 Martin Kolman <martin.kol...@gmail.com>: >>>> >>>>> Mon, 30 May 2016 19:32:54 +0000 Alexey Andreyev: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Hello, Zoltán! :) >>>>> Feel free to criticize me, but... ads in our jolla? No, thanks! :) >>>>> >>>>> I subscribe to this - while I understand developers are looking for >>>>> revenue streams I really like >>>>> how current native Sailfish OS apps are pretty much add free (for one >>>>> reason or another). >>>>> Just take a look how reckless add usage ruins application usability on >>>>> Android. >>>>> I'm fine with donations, paid/premium versions, etc. but please no >>>>> adds! :) >>>>> >>>>> I guess if you are a developer it make sence to ask for donations / >>>>> create non-free apps, but please, no ads at all. >>>>> (Espesially with additional web engine module loaded eating my >>>>> resources) >>>>> >>>>> Again, this is just my opinion. I understand it opens new >>>>> possibilities for some projects, etc, etc. >>>>> >>>>> пн, 30 мая 2016 г. в 21:48, Zoltán Lutor < <zoltan.lu...@gmail.com> >>>>> zoltan.lu...@gmail.com>: >>>>> >>>>>> I've progressed with implementing an open source wrapper for Vserv >>>>>> RESTful advertisement API in QML. Quote from API description: >>>>>> >>>>>> Vserv provides a simple HTTP based API to publishers/developers and >>>>>> other ad networks, etc. to fetch ads for mobile sites or mobile >>>>>> applications. The mobile device / server makes a HTTP request to Vserv >>>>>> Marketplace server with the required parameters and in response receives >>>>>> the ad in JSON format. This single API integration gives you the >>>>>> flexibility to fetch banner/ full screen / rich media ads. >>>>>> >>>>>> Available implementation is in pre-beta phase - quite majority of >>>>>> functionality works but there is still room for improvement. >>>>>> >>>>>> Since I'm not so experienced in this area of sw development - and >>>>>> especially newbie in Sailfish native development - *I would like to >>>>>> ask some help from the community in finishing it*. >>>>>> >>>>>> It would be a general purpose QML wrapper around the API with >>>>>> necessary tailoring is needed for Sailfish - e.g. Webkit vs. WebView, >>>>>> etc. >>>>>> Maybe separate git branches are needed for different implementation(?) - >>>>>> I'm open for any reasonable proposal. >>>>>> >>>>>> Is there anybody willing to join? Reviewing, commenting - and of >>>>>> course, coding is more than welcome. [This is my first open source >>>>>> project, so comment from this aspect is welcome, too.] >>>>>> >>>>>> API descrption is here >>>>>> <https://docs.google.com/document/d/139TRSTV33tLxKxbew4yPTPF4uc8PZJPiRkxyo9GymIE/edit>, >>>>>> code repository is in BitBucket >>>>>> <https://bitbucket.org/zlutor/qml-wrapper-for-vserv-http-ad-api> >>>>>> >>>>>> Br, >>>>>> >>>>>> Zoltan >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list >>>>>> To unsubscribe, please send a mail to >>>>>> <devel-unsubscr...@lists.sailfishos.org> >>>>>> devel-unsubscr...@lists.sailfishos.org >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list >>>>> To unsubscribe, please send a mail to >>>>> devel-unsubscr...@lists.sailfishos.org >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list >>>>> To unsubscribe, please send a mail to >>>>> devel-unsubscr...@lists.sailfishos.org >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list >>>> To unsubscribe, please send a mail to >>>> devel-unsubscr...@lists.sailfishos.org >>>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list >>> To unsubscribe, please send a mail to >>> devel-unsubscr...@lists.sailfishos.org >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list >> To unsubscribe, please send a mail to >> devel-unsubscr...@lists.sailfishos.org >> > > > _______________________________________________ > SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list > To unsubscribe, please send a mail to > devel-unsubscr...@lists.sailfishos.org >
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