Re: tomcat-native orphaned

On Wed, Jul 15, 2015 at 11:30 AM, Lorenzo Dalrio wrote: > Taken. :) Is there really a need for it? Given that tomcat has good support for java "keystore", even keystores with poorly passphrased keys, is there really a need for this package? > 2015-07-14 23:11 GMT+02:00 Ville Skyttä : >> I've ju

Re: tomcat-native orphaned

On Wed, Jul 22, 2015 at 2:50 AM, Peter Boy wrote: > > I appreciate very much we’ll keep tomcat-native in the Fedora repositories, > thanks to Lorenzo. Although, I don’t grasp how Java Keystores could be a > replacement. I thought the biggest use of tomcat-native was to provide high capacity nat

Re: Systemd Preset Policy

On Sat, Jul 25, 2015 at 8:28 PM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > On Sat, Jul 25, 2015 at 06:06:42PM -0600, Kevin Fenzi wrote: >> On Sat, 25 Jul 2015 23:56:07 + >> Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: >> >> > On Sat, Jul 25, 2015 at 10:41:55PM +0100, Sérgio Basto wrote: >> > > The packages

Re: gross DNF bandwidth inefficiency if filesystem space limited

On Fri, Jul 31, 2015 at 3:14 PM, Richard Hughes wrote: > On 31 July 2015 at 17:27, Radek Holy wrote: >> One can say that the mirrors should keep the older versions > > I would completely agree. As we can't rely that packages referenced in > metadata just one day old still being on the mirrors mea

Re: About making noarch package arch specific, when contents differ.

On Tue, Jul 28, 2015 at 10:52 AM, Paulo César Pereira de Andrade wrote: > 2015-07-28 5:58 GMT-03:00 Florian Weimer : >> On 07/26/2015 04:05 PM, Paulo César Pereira de Andrade wrote: >> >>> Should I make the doc packages arch specific? >> >> No, this is not a reason to make them arch-specific. A l

Re: Metadata signing for rawhide

On Thu, Aug 6, 2015 at 8:46 AM, Dennis Gilmore wrote: > On Thursday, August 06, 2015 08:27:44 AM Neal Gompa wrote: >> In the rpm-ecosystem mailing list, Michael Schroeder from SUSE brought up >> that we don't sign the metadata for the rawhide repository >>

Re: Same comand names in /usr/bin and /usr/sbin

On Mon, Aug 10, 2015 at 2:19 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > On Mon, 10 Aug 2015 12:12:17 -0600 > Orion Poplawski wrote: > >> iproute has /usr/sbin/ss >> stripesnoop has /usr/bin/ss >> >> This causes problems: >> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1249328 >> >> It seems like we should have a po

Re: Same comand names in /usr/bin and /usr/sbin

On Sun, Aug 16, 2015 at 8:03 AM, Lennart Poettering wrote: > On Fri, 14.08.15 17:58, Matthew Miller (mat...@fedoraproject.org) wrote: > >> On Fri, Aug 14, 2015 at 07:24:16PM +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote: >> > Given that sbin is in $PATH for unprivileged users too the seperation >> > is really p

Re: systemd bugs again and again

Yes, Lennart is a dick. Everyone who has to work with sytemd has seen this. But please, Don't give him excuses to pretend justification for ignoring your complaints by coming off growsy in the mailing list. On Thu, Aug 13, 2015 at 8:50 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: > is systemd now orphaned in Fedora

Re: Same comand names in /usr/bin and /usr/sbin

On Sun, Aug 16, 2015 at 2:31 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: > > Am 16.08.2015 um 18:57 schrieb Nico Kadel-Garcia: >> >> It's a basic violation of the ordinary segregation between "/bin" as >> ordinary user tools" and "/sbin" as sysadmin tools to sta

Re: Same comand names in /usr/bin and /usr/sbin

On Sun, Aug 16, 2015 at 6:24 PM, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote: > On Sun, Aug 16, 2015 at 2:31 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: >> >> Am 16.08.2015 um 18:57 schrieb Nico Kadel-Garcia: >>> >>> It's a basic violation of the ordinary segregation between "/bin" as

Re: systemd bugs again and again

On Sun, Aug 16, 2015 at 1:09 PM, Josh Boyer wrote: > On Aug 16, 2015 1:01 PM, "Nico Kadel-Garcia" wrote: >> >> Yes, Lennart is a [rude word removed] > Personal attacks are not acceptable on this list. Don't do it again. Sorry, that was meant to be a pers

Re: Metadata signing for rawhide

On Thu, Aug 6, 2015 at 11:30 AM, Dennis Gilmore wrote: > On Thursday, August 06, 2015 08:29:50 AM Rex Dieter wrote: >> Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote: >> > What makes you think a site that is poisoning or abusing the metadata >> > would not simply run "createrepo&qu

Re: noarch vs. all, x86_64 vs. amd64, kernel vs. linux and PAE

On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 9:57 AM, Josh Boyer wrote: > On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 9:34 AM, Petr Pisar wrote: >> On 2015-08-15, Neal Gompa wrote: >>> Out of all of those suggestions, the only one that might have any >>> = real value would be renaming "kernel" to "linux", but only if we >>> were intere

Re: noarch vs. all, x86_64 vs. amd64, kernel vs. linux and PAE

On Thu, Aug 27, 2015 at 7:53 PM, Josh Boyer wrote: > On Thu, Aug 27, 2015 at 7:41 PM, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote: >> On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 9:57 AM, Josh Boyer >> wrote: >>> On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 9:34 AM, Petr Pisar wrote: >>>> On 2015-08-15, Neal Gom

Re: kcm_systemd license change: GPLv3+ → GPLv2+

On Sat, Sep 26, 2015 at 11:00 AM, Kevin Kofler wrote: > Hi, > > sorry for this completely useless junk mail, it is required by policy: > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Licensing:Main#License_Changes Please, it's not "useless". Software licenses have been a source of serious developer grief: a swi

Re: dnf is completly broken

On Sun, Sep 27, 2015 at 1:15 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: > > > Am 27.09.2015 um 19:08 schrieb Josef Bacik: >> >> This is unnecessarily combative and derogatory to a fellow >> distribution, why are you going out of your way to be mean spirited? > > > because i am tired of regressions over regressinos

Re: New Fedora 22 Change proposal: systemd-sysusers

On Wed, Jul 9, 2014 at 12:25 PM, Miloslav Trmač wrote: > (This is all rather beside the point: fixing those particular things won’t > eliminate any of the problems of triplicate implementations and splintered > knowledge. But to spread the awareness of the area…) > > - Original Message

Re: making custom kernels easier to build

> On Aug 12, 2014, at 8:04, "otto" wrote: > > > > -Original Message- > From: devel-boun...@lists.fedoraproject.org > [mailto:devel-boun...@lists.fedoraproject.org] On Behalf Of Josh Boyer > Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2014 7:02 AM > To: Development discussions related to Fedora > Subje

Re: /media -> /run/media???

> On Aug 5, 2014, at 3:28, Ahmad Samir wrote: > >> On 04/08/14 19:13, Marcin Juszkiewicz wrote: >> Can someone point me to discussion which ended in /media being symlink >> to /run/media directory? >> >> I am now looking at Picasa rescanning 40GB of pictures just because >> /media/storage/ dis

Re: Self Introduction / Contributing a package to Fedora

> On Jul 28, 2014, at 16:18, Derek Pressnall wrote: > > > > I have a question about contributing a package to Fedora. Is it common for > the author of an open source package to act as package maintainer? Or is it > better to have someone else be the package maintainer (who is more > expe

Re: /media -> /run/media???

On Wed, Aug 13, 2014 at 11:36 AM, Jon wrote: >> >> Fedora's recent tendency to override the published file system hierarchy >> specs, at whim, and replace them with symlinks is problematic, unnecessary, >> and is breaking things. In this case, /media is defined in the upstream >> specs as the l

Re: /media -> /run/media???

On Thu, Aug 14, 2014 at 11:49 AM, Michal Schmidt wrote: > On 08/14/2014 12:17 PM, Matthew Miller wrote: >> On Thu, Aug 14, 2014 at 10:06:11AM +0200, Ondrej Vasik wrote: >>> Actually I'm going to revert the /media -> /run/media change. > > The above sentence is unfortunately ambiguous. > >>> It is

Re: /media -> /run/media???

On Fri, Aug 15, 2014 at 9:47 AM, Ondrej Vasik wrote: > On Fri, 2014-08-15 at 08:07 -0400, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote: >> On Thu, Aug 14, 2014 at 11:49 AM, Michal Schmidt wrote: >> > On 08/14/2014 12:17 PM, Matthew Miller wrote: >> >> On Thu, Aug 14, 2014 at 10:06:

Re: /media -> /run/media???

On Sat, Aug 16, 2014 at 1:54 PM, Jon wrote: > On Fri, Aug 15, 2014 at 9:21 PM, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote: > > ... > >> *sigh*. Then the default should have been to set >> UDISKS_FILESYSTEM_SHARED to 1. Let people who *want* it in the new >> "/run/media/$USER/moun

Re: /media -> /run/media???

On Sun, Aug 17, 2014 at 9:12 PM, Robert Nichols wrote: > The media would not get scrubbed since it is not yet mounted at that > point in the boot sequence. What _does_ get scrubbed is any leftover > /run/media/$USER directories and the temporary mount points they > contain, which is arguably pref

Re: is there a way to view a spec file?

On Tue, Aug 19, 2014 at 9:01 AM, Neal Becker wrote: > Something like github for fedora, where I can view/dl arbitrary files? I'd > like > to be able to view a spec file for any given package, without d/l the whole > package. CentOS is doing something like this at https://git.centos.org. Unfortu

Re: is there a way to view a spec file?

On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 8:40 AM, Josh Boyer wrote: > We've been using git repos for packages since 2010. We don't use > tags. Mostly because that would require koji to write back to the > SCM, which it doesn't do. It does log which sha1sum it built the > SRPM/RPM from though, and that is immut

Re: Circular dependencies in RPM

On Fri, Aug 22, 2014 at 5:15 PM, Dusty Mabe wrote: > On Fri, Aug 22, 2014 at 02:29:31PM -0600, Orion Poplawski wrote: >> On 08/22/2014 02:23 PM, Dusty Mabe wrote: >> >The scenario I am concerned with here is: >> > >> >if >> > * A requires B >> > * B requires C >> > * C requires A >> > >> >This

Re: systemd dependencies

On Tue, Aug 26, 2014 at 3:32 AM, Vít Ondruch wrote: > Hi, > > Recently I have noticed that systemd package dependency is creeping into > some packages where it is not necessary. subversion [1] or rsync [2] are > good examples. Please consider moving daemon parts into independent > subpackages. Whe

Re: Dash as default shell

On Fri, Oct 3, 2014 at 6:14 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > Hi > > On Fri, Oct 3, 2014 at 9:04 AM, Garry T. Williams > wrote: >> >> >> $ (checkbashisms -f -p $(grep -rlE '^#! ?/bin/(env )?sh' /usr/bin) ) >> 2>&1 >/dev/null|grep 'possible bashism'|awk '{print $4}'|sort -u|wc -l >> 113 >> $

Re: No more deltarpms by default

On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 11:40 PM, Gerald B. Cox wrote: > My comment was not meant to be argumentative, but rather tongue-in-cheek. > However, I do believe when changing a default, it isn't about what is > convenient for me. It's about what is best for the entire community and > what are the real

Re: No more deltarpms by default

On Sat, Oct 18, 2014 at 8:28 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: > > > Am 19.10.2014 um 02:19 schrieb Solomon Peachy: >> >> On Sat, Oct 18, 2014 at 07:00:19PM -0400, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote: >>> >>>3) People who have a lot of hosts and high bandwidth, high spee

Re: No more deltarpms by default

On Sun, Oct 19, 2014 at 1:04 AM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > Hi > > On Sun, Oct 19, 2014 at 12:37 AM, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote: >> >> . And the "bandwidth saving" is still badly >> overshadowed by the necessary repodata bandwith from almost every run >

Re: No more deltarpms by default

On Sun, Oct 19, 2014 at 3:51 AM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > Hi > > On Sun, Oct 19, 2014 at 3:40 AM, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote: >> >> Even then, though still means up to 60 MB * 15/month, > > > Earlier you mentioned 50 MB. Now you claim 60 MB. Can you show where these

Re: No more deltarpms by default

On Sun, Oct 19, 2014 at 5:26 AM, Reindl Harald wrote: > > Am 19.10.2014 um 06:37 schrieb Nico Kadel-Garcia: >> >> On Sat, Oct 18, 2014 at 8:28 PM, Reindl Harald >> wrote: >>> >>> #!/usr/bin/bash >>> basearch=`uname -i` >>> releasever=

Re: No more deltarpms by default

On Sun, Oct 19, 2014 at 11:07 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > On Sun, 19 Oct 2014 21:52:00 -0400 > Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote: > >> It's a rough figure, from >> http://mirrors.kernel.org/fedora/releases/20/Everything/x86_64/os/repodata/ >> (a useful local mirror). Si

Re: No more deltarpms by default

On Mon, Oct 20, 2014 at 4:22 AM, Reindl Harald wrote: > > > Am 20.10.2014 um 04:02 schrieb Nico Kadel-Garcia: >> >> On Sun, Oct 19, 2014 at 5:26 AM, Reindl Harald >> wrote: >>> >>> >>> Am 19.10.2014 um 06:37 schrieb Nico Kadel-Garcia: >>

Re: No more deltarpms by default

On Mon, Oct 20, 2014 at 6:40 AM, Reindl Harald wrote: > > Am 20.10.2014 um 12:31 schrieb Gerd Hoffmann: >> >> On Fr, 2014-10-17 at 11:49 +, Andre Robatino wrote: >>> >>> Roberto Ragusa robertoragusa.it> writes: >>> Are compressed rpms completely impossible to diff efficiently by rsync? >

Re: Remove Perl from minimal build root

On Thu, Oct 30, 2014 at 3:01 PM, Richard Hughes wrote: > On 30 October 2014 14:02, Vít Ondruch wrote: >> If you have any comments, please speak up now. > > No comment, just lots of thanks! > > Richard I tried this, *twice*. Once way, way back when with Red Hat 6.x (not RHEL 6.x, Red Hat 6.x, thi

Re: No more deltarpms by default

On Fri, Nov 7, 2014 at 3:31 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: > the meta-data are fat > look below The metadata are bulky, fairly monolithic databases. They cannot easily support incremental updates of the metadata because they are compressed, singular files storing data for all available packages. The b

Re: No more deltarpms by default

On Sat, Nov 8, 2014 at 2:25 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: > > > Am 08.11.2014 um 20:21 schrieb Nico Kadel-Garcia: >>> >>> [root@rawhide ~]# rm -rf /var/cache/dnf/* >> >> >> I do think you also flushed all the historical data on what packages >> we

Re: systemd-219 issues with 22 and Rawhide composes

On Mon, Feb 23, 2015 at 10:43 AM, Lennart Poettering wrote: > On Mon, 23.02.15 08:45, Nico Kadel-Garcia (nka...@gmail.com) wrote: [ notes snipped, ] > You know, that systemd creates a symlink if the file is missing is not > going to change behaviour of anything, since it will only do

Re: systemd-219 issues with 22 and Rawhide composes

On Fri, Feb 27, 2015 at 8:18 AM, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote: > Look, deciding to ignore the File System Hierarchy for installing > config files and creating new locations to store system configuration > is part of what killed the old "daemontools" init system replacement. > t

Re: Why sysrq is limited to only "sync" command on official fedora kernel?

> On Wed, Feb 25, 2015 at 9:39 AM, Michal Schmidt wrote: >> On 02/25/2015 03:04 PM, Josh Boyer wrote: >>> On Wed, Feb 25, 2015 at 8:54 AM, Ali AlipourR wrote: >>> Hi, >>> >>> Why sysrq is limited to only "sync" command on official fedora kernel? >> >> The kernel itself isn't limited. It's ju

Re: FESCO request to revert password confirmation change in F22

On Fri, Mar 6, 2015 at 2:00 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > On Fri, 6 Mar 2015 10:52:34 -0500 > David Cantrell wrote: > >> From what I'm reading in the meeting logs and the ticket comments, it >> appears the revert decision is basically a temporary solution and a >> more formal security policy will be d

Re: FESCO request to revert password confirmation change in F22

On Sun, Mar 8, 2015 at 8:44 AM, Björn Persson wrote: > Mike Pinkerton wrote: >> I was responding to Björn Persson's suggestion that, in discussions >> of password quality, correcthorsebatterystaple would be an example of >> a safe password. > > Safe_r_. Security in passphrases isn't a binary thing

Re: FESCO request to revert password confirmation change in F22

On Mon, Mar 9, 2015 at 6:53 PM, Björn Persson wrote: > Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote: >> I'm the guy that brought up the XKCD comic. > > I did it first. ;-) > >> The classic >> storage is the Post-it note on the secretary's desk, but I see a lot >> of p

Re: Heads up - openssh 6.8 coming to F22

On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 10:21 AM, Jakub Jelen wrote: > Hi all, > > I know that it is quite late in F22 schedule and freeze is coming, but we > decided to push recent upstream version into F22 before beta freeze to keep > up with upstream. > I spent some time with testing various use cases with our

Re: Why does disk I/O slow down a CPU bound task?

On Mon, Mar 30, 2015 at 3:58 PM, Dave Johansen wrote: > I noticed on RHEL 6 that when a large amount of disk I/O is happening that > CPU bound tasks "slow down". I have been able to reproduce it in Fedora 21 > as well and here are the instructions of how I can reproduce it with a > simple test: W

Re: dnf replacing yum and dnf-yum

On Wed, Apr 1, 2015 at 3:40 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > There's some confusion around this, so I thought I would post to try > and clear up things. In the event I am wrong on any of the below, please > do feel free to correct me. ;) > > In the past the proposal was to have a yum-dnf package that prov

Re: Heads up - openssh 6.8 coming to F22

On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 10:54 PM, Chris Adams wrote: > Once upon a time, Nico Kadel-Garcia said: >> Also, heads up on OpenSSH releases: they're planning to disable ssh-1 >> compilation by default in a near future release, so the maintainer at >> Fedora will need to

Re: plowshare is not shipped with modules anymore

On Mon, Apr 13, 2015 at 2:15 AM, Ralf Corsepius wrote: > On 04/12/2015 09:01 PM, Elder Marco wrote: >> >> Hello, >> >> Since version 2.x.x. plowshare is not shipped with modules anymore. >> There are two repositories. The main repository [1], with the core >> package, and a new repository, with th

Re: plowshare is not shipped with modules anymore

On Sun, Apr 26, 2015 at 8:11 AM, Richard Z wrote: > On Sun, Apr 26, 2015 at 01:14:03PM +0300, Pavel Alexeev wrote: >> 17.04.2015 07:41, Ralf Corsepius пишет: >> > On 04/17/2015 01:10 AM, Pavel Alexeev wrote: >> >> Hi >> >> >> >> 14.04.2015 05:20, Ralf Corsepius пишет: >> >>> On 04/14/2015 03:01 AM

Re: Annonce: qt-virt-manager

On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 9:11 AM, Marcin Juszkiewicz wrote: > W dniu 22.04.2015 o 19:36, Fl@sh pisze: >> >> Hi, all! I'm developing qt-virt-manager. I have to say: this is not a >> Qt-clone of the virt-manager. The application is able to perform a >> lot, so I suggest you to use, and look forward t

Re: f22 rsync missing systemd unit files

On Sat, May 9, 2015 at 3:17 PM, Chris Murphy wrote: > On Sat, May 9, 2015 at 1:06 PM, Peter Robinson wrote: >> That depends on how you use rsync, if it's over ssh you don't need a >> daemon on the other end. > > Got it. So it works because I haven't been using the double colon or > rync:// notati

Re: UTF-8 locale in rpm build

On Sat, May 9, 2015 at 11:00 PM, Orion Poplawski wrote: > More and more tests/builds appear to require a UTF-8 locale. Perhaps it's > time to have rpm set LANG=C.UTF-8? If a build system needs a particular language, it should be in the build scripts themselves. People do local, personal compilat

Re: UTF-8 locale in rpm build

On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 12:22 PM, Petr Pisar wrote: > On 2015-05-10, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote: >> If a build system needs a particular language, it should be in the >> build scripts themselves. People do local, personal compilation in >> environments that use other language

Re: Differences between Koji and mock buildroots

On Sun, May 17, 2015 at 11:58 AM, Matthew Miller wrote: > On Sun, May 17, 2015 at 04:08:03PM +0200, Reindl Harald wrote: >> >>I thought, "Recommends:" is still banned from Fedora packages. >> >Why would you say that? >> because there are still no clear guidelines how to deal? >> https://www.google

Re: Puppet 4

On Thu, Jun 4, 2015 at 2:21 PM, John Florian wrote: > I’ve been curious how Fedora plans to tackle inclusion of Puppet 4, but > haven’t heard even a peep on the subject. As described[1], they’ve moved to > an all-in-one packaging process that “includes Puppet 4, both Facter 2.4 and > CFacter 0.4,

Re: Puppet 4

On Fri, Jun 5, 2015 at 11:31 AM, Matthew Miller wrote: > On Fri, Jun 05, 2015 at 01:31:10PM +, John Florian wrote: >> Personally I do so using a scheme like /opt/$VENDOR/$PRODUCT/$RELEASE, >> but to my knowledge the FHS has never ratified anything like that. The >> FHS seems to take a rather

Re: dnf install just stops - no explanation

On Tue, Jun 9, 2015 at 9:41 AM, Richard Fearn wrote: > I've experienced the same problem with a F22 VM running in VirtualBox. > (Is yours a VM?) Disabling IPv6 seemed to help a bit, but the problem > never went away completely. > > There a few bugs that talk about similar issues, e.g.: > > https:/

Re: Puppet 4

On Mon, Jun 8, 2015 at 11:04 AM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > On Sat, Jun 06, 2015 at 06:52:35PM -0400, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote: >> Given the profound discrepancies between the FHS 3 and everything that >> systemd touches, I'm afraid it's become a confusing gui

Re: Puppet 4

On Mon, Jun 22, 2015 at 3:46 PM, Jeffrey Ollie wrote: > On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 6:58 AM, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote: >> >> >> The "/etc" migration, however, is part of the "stateless linux" work >> desribed at http://0pointer.de/blog/projects/stateles

Re: Puppet 4

On Mon, Jun 22, 2015 at 10:22 PM, Michael Stahnke wrote: > As a point of moderation, we could probably break out the FHS/stateless > discussion into its own thread, as at this point this has nearly nothing to > do with Puppet. Good point. Let me circle it back around: It seems reasonable for a m

Re: RHEL 9 and modularity

On Thu, Jun 18, 2020 at 8:45 AM Josh Boyer wrote: Modularity has been an interesting idea on paper, but not worth the effort. It should not be used for RHEL 9. > It is always good to push the boundaries and search for better ideas > and improvements, and that is part of what makes Fedora great.

Re: RHEL 9 and modularity

On Wed, Jun 24, 2020 at 10:45 AM Vít Ondruch wrote: > > > Dne 24. 06. 20 v 15:47 Miro Hrončok napsal(a): > > On 24. 06. 20 14:41, Vít Ondruch wrote: > >> Having python27 and python36 modules is fail, because these should be > >> 2.7 and 3.6 streams of python module. > > > > Oh. We are so sorry for

Re: Fedora 33 System-Wide Change proposal: Make btrfs the default file system for desktop variants

On Sun, Jun 28, 2020 at 6:21 AM Antti wrote: > > Hello, > > I'm in total opposition to this proposal as a long-time Fedora user. The > btrfs is unstable and not ready for production. Most of what I'm about to > write is admittedly anecdotal but it's the only file system in Linux which > has act

Re: [EPEL] rpmconf question for EPEL7 on Amazon Linux 2

On Tue, Jun 30, 2020 at 2:18 PM Christopher wrote: > > Hi, > > I know Fedora doesn't directly support Amazon Linux, but I was > wondering if the package maintainer for rpmconf on EPEL was aware that > the latest version doesn't work on Amazon Linux 2, which recently > updated to python-3.7, wherea

Re: The future of legacy BIOS support in Fedora.

On Tue, Jul 7, 2020 at 6:17 AM Gerd Hoffmann wrote: > > On Mon, Jul 06, 2020 at 01:26:31PM -0700, John M. Harris Jr wrote: > > I guess that shows how unfamiliar I am with UEFI boot Fedora. You would > > encrypt /boot to ensure that your boot images have not been tampered with, > > Well, if that i

Re: Fedora 33 System-Wide Change proposal: Make btrfs the default file system for desktop variants

On Sun, Jul 12, 2020 at 7:51 AM Dominique Martinet wrote: > (Yes, that means applications need to start being concious of what fs > they are being run on, or at least the fedora configuration needs to do > that check for them) Good luck with that. It's a direct violation of the "object oriented"

Re: Ditch RPM in favor of DPKG

On Wed, Jul 15, 2020 at 4:29 AM Dridi Boukelmoune wrote: > > On Tue, Jul 14, 2020 at 8:39 PM Dishant Pandya wrote: > > > > Its ok to have something that builds deb packages on Fedora, but in my > > opinion RPM is far more better then debian packages. Also the Dnf and yum > > package manager on

Re: Ditch RPM in favor of DPKG

On Fri, Jul 17, 2020 at 3:15 AM Dridi Boukelmoune wrote: > > > Oddly, the subject of the original post infers getting rid of rpm but > > the post itself sounds like it's proposing something different and > > that's why I decided to speak up. > > Yes, poor joke of mine, keeps hitting home though :)

Re: Ditch RPM in favor of DPKG

On Sat, Jul 18, 2020 at 1:21 AM Anthony F McInerney wrote: > > > > On Sat, 18 Jul 2020 at 04:19, John M. Harris Jr wrote: >> >> On Thursday, July 16, 2020 3:11:19 AM MST Dridi Boukelmoune wrote: >> > there was no reason not to replac it with regular apt >> >> Nico touched on these already, but th

Re: how does somobeody install perl(ExtUtils::Embed)

Put quotes around each requirement. sudo yum install "perl(ExtUtils::Embed)" "rubygem(minitest)" And if you're building Subversion from scratch for RHEL 6, do look at my tools at https://github.com/nkadel/subversion-1.8.x-srpm On Mon, Feb 17, 2014 at 6:08 AM, Reindl Harald wrote: > > [b

Re: default local DNS failover solution needed, nscd?

On Fri, Apr 25, 2014 at 6:51 PM, Chuck Anderson wrote: > I'm starting a new thread to clarify and emphasize the problem I'm > actually trying to solve. Here is the problem restated as I posted it > to the dns-operations list: > > - > Is it really expected that the first DNS server listed in >

Re: Another bug on OpenSSL

It's not stable yet, and it's not ported to other operating systems. the folks over at OpenBSD do import some powerful security tools and keep them clean, such SSH. (No, they didn't writ it, they ported it and maintain the core code.) But that means it's unlikely to work well on other operating sy

Re: F22 System Wide Change: Replace Yum With DNF

On Sat, Jun 14, 2014 at 8:40 AM, Reindl Harald wrote: >> Depends obscure options that are hardly used by the majority of users >> are different from common options that everyone uses. > > "dnf remove yum dnf kernel" ruins your system > yum don't allow that for good reasons > > that's unacepptable

Re: F22 System Wide Change: Replace Yum With DNF

On Sat, Jun 14, 2014 at 3:56 PM, Björn Persson wrote: > Please keep the command name "yum", and keep the command line syntax > and the configuration language as compatible as is feasible. Make a > wrapper or a symlink if you need to, but plan to keep it forever, not > just for a year or two. The

Re: F22 System Wide Change: Replace Yum With DNF

On Sun, Jun 15, 2014 at 2:18 PM, Björn Persson wrote: > Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote: >> On Sat, Jun 14, 2014 at 3:56 PM, Björn Persson >> wrote: >>> As a system administrator I expect "yum install", "yum remove" and >>> "yum update" to c

Re: To distro-sync or not distro-sync?

On Thu, Oct 29, 2015 at 5:56 AM, Reindl Harald wrote: > > > Am 29.10.2015 um 10:09 schrieb Christopher Meng: >> >> You have a chance to get your rpmfusion softwares wiped after the sync. >> >> [1]---https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1263677 > > > unacceptable > > the software upgrade jus

Re: systemd package bloat

On Wed, Nov 11, 2015 at 6:40 AM, Reindl Harald wrote: > > Am 06.11.2015 um 16:48 schrieb Haïkel: >> >> 2015-11-06 16:35 GMT+01:00 Reindl Harald : >>> >>> it's one thing that there is a common tarball containing everything, but >>> 26 >>> MB, 821 files including /usr/bin/machinectl and >>> /usr/lib

Re: Dealing with the "my packages" problem

On Wed, Nov 18, 2015 at 4:49 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: > Just as a general note on this thread: if you're a packager and you > have a genuine reason why people should be careful about touching your > package, or follow some specific process when doing so, or there's > something that people might

Re: rpmbuild Perl dependency finder broken since F23?

The "perl -w" option is also deprecated, and usually quite inappropriate to put in the #! line. It's aimed at producing warnings about *potential* problems, and can generate spew that is difficult to parse in normal operation. See http://www.perl.com/pub/2004/08/09/commandline.html for details on

Re: Easier %config management?

On Thu, Dec 17, 2015 at 3:55 AM, Harald Hoyer wrote: > On 16.12.2015 03:32, Colin Walters wrote: >> On Tue, Dec 15, 2015, at 06:43 PM, Japheth Cleaver wrote: >>> >>> Perhaps RPM (or yum/dnf, via plugin) could write a duplicate copy of all >>> config files into a tree somewhere? (E.g., /usr/lib/con

Re: Unresponsive maintainer procedure for tuxbrewr

On Tue, Jan 12, 2016 at 9:31 AM, Sven Lankes wrote: > On Tue, Jan 12, 2016 at 01:30:27PM +0100, Michael Schwendt wrote: > >> Isn't that tedious, inefficient and a waste of time? > > As all of the unresponsive maintainer procedure. > > Could we adjust the tooling so that a request for commit access

Re: Announce of package to mark as Orphan – repoview – rpmdepsize – snake - revisor

On Fri, Jan 8, 2016 at 10:37 AM, Sérgio Basto wrote: > On Sex, 2016-01-08 at 08:54 -0500, Jaroslav Mracek wrote: >> Hi everybody, >> >> I would like to set following packages as Orphan due to that upstream >> is dead or maintainers do not respond: >> >> repoview > > have we a replace for repoview

Re: COPR repo in mock?

On Tue, Jan 19, 2016 at 4:48 AM, Miroslav Suchy wrote: > Dne 19.1.2016 v 06:51 Dmitrij S. Kryzhevich napsal(a): >> Like any others. Provide information about repo to /etc/mock/YOURCONFIG.cfg >> In most cases in would be: /etc/mock/default.cfg >> >> You could find details for your particular copr r

Re: Getting koji access for some Perl tools

On Tue, Jul 9, 2013 at 11:57 AM, Till Maas wrote: > to get koji build access you need to become a package maintainer as > described here: > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Join_the_package_collection_maintainers Thanks. I'm re-registered and have my keys and certificates, *BUT* I'm afraid I'm enc

Re: Getting koji access for some Perl tools

On Sat, Jul 13, 2013 at 2:13 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > On Sat, 13 Jul 2013 09:02:37 -0400 > Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote: > >> On Tue, Jul 9, 2013 at 11:57 AM, Till Maas >> wrote: >> >> > to get koji build access you need to become a package maintaine

Re: Getting koji access for some Perl tools

On Sat, Jul 13, 2013 at 7:23 PM, Till Maas wrote: > On Sat, Jul 13, 2013 at 07:00:14PM -0400, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote: > >> If it should be fedoraproject.org in general, good. But if one is >> going to host a website with a different top level domain, it really >> n

Re: Release an rpm with a lower version than the existing one

> On 07/12/2013 08:35 AM, Alejandro Alvarez Ayllon wrote: >> >> Hi all, >> >> Not so long ago I took over an rpm called dpm-dsi, being the released >> version 1.9.0. >> The release of that version was decided by upstream. >> >> However, now upstream has decided to deprecate 1.9.0 for the moment >>

Re: F20 System Wide Change: No Default Sendmail

On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 3:23 PM, Billy Crook wrote: > On Jul 19, 2013 2:16 PM, "Bill Nottingham" wrote: >> >> It's not as if the default MTA configuration, as I understand it (no smart >> host, attempt to send all mail directly with the FQDN) is generally useful >> OOTB. > > It is to me, and I s

Re: F20 System Wide Change: No Default Sendmail

On Sat, Jul 20, 2013 at 10:50 AM, Nicolas Mailhot wrote: > > Le Ven 19 juillet 2013 20:16, Matthew Miller a écrit : >> On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 07:37:35PM +0200, Miloslav Trmač wrote: >>> However, having the /usr/sbin/sendmail API available to applications >>> is valuable - it brings a significant

Re: Webapps denying all outside access by default?

On Sat, Jul 20, 2013 at 3:53 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: > I'm not sure if I'm missing anything here, but is it intended that > webapps should not be accessible from anywhere but localhost by default? > This seems to be the case for at least wordpress - which is my kind of > 'gold standard' for web

Re: Webapps denying all outside access by default?

On Sat, Jul 20, 2013 at 5:28 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Sat, 2013-07-20 at 23:07 +0200, Reindl Harald wrote: >> besides that these are config *examples* and not for production >> means they should not be overwritten after configuration: >> >> /etc/httpd/conf.d/z-name-allow.conf >> >> whate

Re: Review Swap

work with SMTP servers and client access, and have to wonder why you're doing this with so many stable servers available. Nico Kadel-Garcia Email: nka...@gmail.com Sent from iPhone On Aug 7, 2013, at 6:19, Christopher Meng wrote: > Hi, > > I have a POP3 mail server package, it&#

Re: F20 release name election?

You forgot the third camp, who want their release names without punctuation so it doesn't break a decade of configuration scripting. Releases need punctuation and non-7-bit ASCII in their names like goldfish need martinis. On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 8:12 PM, Josh Boyer wrote: > On Thu, Aug 22, 2013

Re: File Dependancy should be counted in a reference.

You should not *care* how many packages have the dependency, only that *any* package has the dependency, and you have a report from RPM itself of what those packages are. Why do you need to bother to count them and add yet another set of superfluous database entries to corrupt and try to keep recon

Re: Is there a reason we do not turn on the file system hardlink/symlink protection in Rawhide?

On Sat, Mar 23, 2013 at 11:08 PM, Kevin Kofler wrote: > Miloslav Trmač wrote: >> BTW determining this accurately should be fairly doable[1]. Just look >> for symlink() and link() calls (and recursively through wrapper APIs / >> language bindings). These syscalls are fairly rare. > > That checks

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