Re: Beware: Thunderbird (ver 3.0.1) CORRUPTS all email state

2010-01-28 Thread Matěj Cepl
Dne 28.1.2010 15:53, Steve Dickson napsal(a): >>> BEWARE! >>> >>> [Bug 559312] thunderbird corrupts mail indices (Old mail marked as new) >>> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=559312 Everybody take a look at this bug (now CLOSED/UPSTREAM) for temporary workaround. Matěj -- http://www.

Re: Fedora 14 Alpha Can Still Ship on Time IF these bugs get attention TODAY

2010-08-06 Thread Matěj Cepl
Dne 5.8.2010 19:49, Kevin Kofler napsal(a): > As much as I dislike SELinux (and would thus generally tend towards lax > SELinux policies), allowing a browser (!!!) to bypass memory protection > strikes me as an awfully bad idea. Those JavaScript JITs are a really bad > security risk. :-( For anybo

Re: glibc causing crashes in most anything that does DNS lookups in F16

2011-08-19 Thread Matěj Cepl
Dne 9.8.2011 00:24, Adam Williamson napsal(a): A bit of detective work led to: https://bugs.archlinux.org/task/24615 apparently Arch has been seeing the same thing. They've addressed it by reverting the following upstream glibc commit: http://sourceware.org/git/?p=glibc.git;a=commit;h=4769ae77

Re: Seamonkey status

2011-08-20 Thread Matěj Cepl
Dne 20.8.2011 12:09, Rahul Sundaram napsal(a): Seamonkey hasn't been updated in a long time. Someone recently mentioned it in identi.ca and filed a bug report to update it. I was looking into it and the spec doesn't seem to be following the packaging guidelines. Source tarball seems to have

Re: Orphaned Package: scribes

2011-06-30 Thread Matěj Cepl
Dne 27.6.2011 03:00, Peter Gordon napsal(a): [CC-ed to Matej Cepl, marked in PkgDB as a co-maintainer.] I have just forgot to remove myself. Scribes is good, but it is PyGtk app and its author shows clear preference not to port it to Gnome 3. So, if you are friend of the ancient regime, this

ushare FTBFS on EL-6

2011-07-06 Thread Matěj Cepl
Hi, I would like to have ushare running on my EL-6 home server and there is no build for EPEL-6. So I have build libupnp (no problems there, I've pushed it to -testing), and when trying to build ushare I've got the problem as seen in the log on http://mcepl.fedorapeople.org/tmp/ushare-rpmbuil

Re: Heads up: X server configuration changes

2010-02-16 Thread Matěj Cepl
On 16.2.2010 08:47, Peter Hutterer wrote: > I can put a giant warning into the log that if input devices don't work then > the users should have a look at the website above for reconfiguration. How > does that sound? Do you have any better suggestions? Do we have all currently packaged .fdi files

Re: debuginfo default install

2010-02-25 Thread Matěj Cepl
On 25.2.2010 16:42, Jon Masters wrote: > It seems most days now something breaks and I want to debug it, but then > have to debuginfo-install. Is there a way to tell yum to always pull in > the corresponding debuginfo packages whenever it installs something? 1) enable -debuginfo repo with your oth

Re: Proposed udpates policy change

2010-03-09 Thread Matěj Cepl
Dne 8.3.2010 22:59, Matthew Garrett napsal(a): > The ability for maintainers to flag an update directly into the updates > repository will be disabled. Before being added to updates, the package > must receive a net karma of +3 in Bodhi. I usually decrease required karma to +-1, but I have never e

Orpahning some packages

2010-03-09 Thread Matěj Cepl
Orphaning couple of packages: - JSDoc (upstream has moved to competing project http://code.google.com/p/jsdoc-toolkit/, so unless somebody needs this package, I think it is ready for retiring from Fedora completely) - python-urllib2_kerberos -- unsuccessful attempt to use this, lost any interes

Re: F13 Alpha - Zarafa

2010-03-10 Thread Matěj Cepl
Dne 10.3.2010 16:35, Tom "spot" Callaway napsal(a): > On 03/09/2010 05:23 PM, nodata wrote: >> Does Zimbra still ship as a blob of specific versions of lots of open >> source software, of which the specific versions cannot be changed? > > Also, the last time I looked, it had a bundled copy of the S

Re: Stable Release Updates types proposal (was Re: Fedora Board Meeting Recap 2010-03-11)

2010-03-11 Thread Matěj Cepl
Dne 12.3.2010 02:24, Rahul Sundaram napsal(a): > I disagree. Imagining that we are living in a island where no software > exists outside the repository is just delusional and the assumption that > everyone has the bandwidth to deal with all that churn is wrong as > well. I should make people sit

Re: Stable Release Updates types proposal (was Re: Fedora Board Meeting Recap 2010-03-11)

2010-03-11 Thread Matěj Cepl
Dne 12.3.2010 02:26, Mike Chambers napsal(a): > On F13, upgrade gnome-panel to version in updates-testing and you'll get When was F13 released? Oh, it wasn't, so it is just glorified Rawhide still? And you complain about it being broken (especially in its updates-*testing*)? BTW, this is the re

Re: Stable Release Updates types proposal (was Re: Fedora Board Meeting Recap 2010-03-11)

2010-03-15 Thread Matěj Cepl
Dne 14.3.2010 19:29, Kevin Kofler napsal(a): > Nonsense. There ARE users who want this kind of updates. Please don't > generalize your own opinion to ALL users in that way. "no" is a strong word! And yes, these are users who have subscribed to updates-testing. My wife bitterly complains about the

Re: Stable Release Updates types proposal (was Re: Fedora Board Meeting Recap 2010-03-11)

2010-03-15 Thread Matěj Cepl
Dne 15.3.2010 01:59, Kevin Kofler napsal(a): > Where's the evidence for that? I haven't noticed anything like that at all! Isn't it because KDE was always pushing huge amounts of updates, so there is no change for you? Just asking ... I (and especially my wife who started to bitterly copmlain ab

Re: Stable Release Updates types proposal (was Re: Fedora Board Meeting Recap 2010-03-11)

2010-03-15 Thread Matěj Cepl
Dne 14.3.2010 09:59, Jon Masters napsal(a): > Somewhat shockingly, some people do use Fedora for day to day stuff. Don't worry they will stop soon. After all (quoting one post which I am sorry got burried somewhere down the thread leaves): $ Contributors are what makes Fedora grow and advance as

Re: Adding two packages to comps

2010-03-15 Thread Matěj Cepl
Dne 14.3.2010 01:56, Hicham Haouari napsal(a): > I want to add two packages to comps in F-13 and devel: > - ueagle-atm4-firmware to hardware-support group as default > - linux-atm to dial-up group as default And both of the are in agreement with our licensing policies, right? https://fedoraprojec

Re: Java Bindings for libnotify

2010-03-15 Thread Matěj Cepl
Dne 15.3.2010 13:43, Alexander Kurtakov napsal(a): > According to the rhbz#438452 there shouldn't be any conflicts between the old > one and java-gnome but if there is nothing in Fedora that requires libgnome- > java and doesn't work with the new java-gnome we should obsolete it. java-gnome 2.* us

Re: Conflicts in latest update

2010-03-16 Thread Matěj Cepl
Dne 16.3.2010 09:50, Ankur Sinha napsal(a): > I did notice that. I wasn't sure why a package from rpmfusion would > conflict with one from fedora repos. (It's in rpmfusion for a reason) > Is it being obsoleted by a fedora package (license been cleared or > something)? There are constantly modules

Re: Conflicts in latest update

2010-03-16 Thread Matěj Cepl
Dne 16.3.2010 13:04, Jon Masters napsal(a): > I'd just add those gstreamer packages to my exclude config in yum for > the moment, if you don't want to deal with the breakage each time. Then > you can remove those excludes when the repos catch up with each other. > > /etc/yum.conf: > > exclude=gstre

Re: Using generally useful macros

2010-03-17 Thread Matěj Cepl
Dne 16.3.2010 19:53, Peter Jones napsal(a): > I'm pretty sure the point of these was to support other /operating systems/, > where e.g. you might need sed from /usr/lib/ucb . > > That's total hogwash, of course, and these are actually completely useless. Of course, +100. Also to have platform-ind

Re: Plans for BTRFS in Fedora

2011-02-25 Thread Matěj Cepl
Dne 24.2.2011 20:54, Ric Wheeler napsal(a): > Can we have pointers to these crashes or BZ reports please? As Josef has > noted, btrfs has been quite stable in our testing and we are certainly > going to pursue any reports. Will do ... I am hesitant to do so, because so many of my previous bug repo

Re: Reasons for hall monitoring

2010-05-06 Thread Matěj Cepl
Dne 6.5.2010 12:28, Karel Zak napsal(a): >> Thank you for pointing out yet another undemocratic policy passed by one of > > +1 The Hall Monitor Policy is cancer. +1000 it feels to me like in a bad old Communism when the open debate was allowed only when it didn't touch the leading role of the Co

Re: Reasons for hall monitoring

2010-05-06 Thread Matěj Cepl
Dne 6.5.2010 23:22, Matěj Cepl napsal(a): > +1000 it feels to me like in a bad old Communism when the open debate > was allowed only when it didn't touch the leading role of the Communist > Party. I really don't think anybody in this thread said anything so > sacrilegious tha

Re: Reasons for hall monitoring

2010-05-06 Thread Matěj Cepl
Dne 7.5.2010 00:45, Brian Pepple napsal(a): > Please enlighten me then on what new information was added to this > thread that wasn't in the prior thread that warranted keeping it alive? Could you point out in https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Hall_Monitor_Policy where it says "thread should be clo

Re: Reasons for hall monitoring

2010-05-07 Thread Matěj Cepl
Dne 7.5.2010 01:01, Rudolf Kastl napsal(a): > one of the questions raised in the meeting posted by mcepl was... "why > dont those people leave if they are unhappy". simple... they put alot > sweat blood and tears into a project, and they have friends... with > the development crowd and with the com

Re: Reasons for hall monitoring

2010-05-07 Thread Matěj Cepl
Dne 7.5.2010 16:56, Przemek Klosowski napsal(a): > Here's the rub, though: Kevin argues for aggressive development and > empowering the package maintainers to push out changes, even if it > resulted in temporary regressions. Ralf, on the other hand, reminds us > about the need for quality control,

Re: Reasons for hall monitoring

2010-05-07 Thread Matěj Cepl
Dne 8.5.2010 07:33, James Antill napsal(a): > The thread was repetitive from a thread that had been shut down because > it had degenerated way past "be excellent to each other", and seemingly > was restarted explicitly to incite more flames, misinformation and > hatred. What if, somebody is not

Re: Reasons for hall monitoring

2010-05-08 Thread Matěj Cepl
Dne 8.5.2010 03:39, Stephen John Smoogen napsal(a): > It is a blessing and it is a curse. Why do more developers show up at > conferences these days running Ubuntu or Debian systems.. many who > used to run Fedora or RHL? My very non-scientific survey has been that > it isn't that Ubuntu is cooler,

Re: Reasons for hall monitoring

2010-05-09 Thread Matěj Cepl
Dne 9.5.2010 12:09, Adam Williamson napsal(a): > Making any change is much harder than it should be; we always end up > in endless discussions without any outcome while others like Ubuntu > seems to have a better decision making process; and seriously I think > this is the one which basically block

Re: Retire glib and gtk+ 1.2 from rawhide?

2010-05-09 Thread Matěj Cepl
Dne 9.5.2010 06:53, Chen Lei napsal(a): > For them, we can simply: > 1. Simply orphan those application from repos which have dead upstream > for a long time. Normally, those allipcations have better alternatives > using GTK+ 2.x, we don't need worry about this. > 2.Update applications to GTK 2.x p

Re: Reasons for hall monitoring

2010-05-10 Thread Matěj Cepl
Dne 10.5.2010 06:54, Ralf Corsepius napsal(a): > Have you ever talked to Ubuntu/openSUSE users and listened to their > replies when telling them you are using Fedora? > > You will hear answers along the line of too much inconvenience to get > multimedia working, too unstable (in the sense of low MT

Re: Reasons for hall monitoring

2010-05-10 Thread Matěj Cepl
Dne 10.5.2010 11:26, drago01 napsal(a): > To have stuff just work. Go to http://senate.gov/ and ask your congressman to fix it. Otherwise (for example if you don't have your congressman because you are not a U.S. citizen), you can also try to move Red Hat's headquarters outside of U.S. (althoug

Re: Reasons for hall monitoring

2010-05-10 Thread Matěj Cepl
Dne 10.5.2010 11:35, drago01 napsal(a): > I didn't say that we can fix it; just that it *is* easier in other > distributions. Which don't have principal headquarters of their sponsor in US (but on the Isle of Man, which was chosen exactly because of its lax legal and especially tax, true, regime

Re: Reasons for hall monitoring

2010-05-10 Thread Matěj Cepl
Dne 10.5.2010 12:48, Adam Williamson napsal(a): > That's the wrong argument. We all know why we _can't_ make it just work, > but that doesn't excuse us. Sorry to take a well-worn analogy, but if > two guys are trying to sell you cars, and one doesn't have an engine, > would the fact that the guy se

Re: Reasons for hall monitoring

2010-05-11 Thread Matěj Cepl
Dne 10.5.2010 20:11, Jeff Spaleta napsal(a): > And if that principled approach is not the most popular.. it doesn't > mean its worth giving up. We need to shake loose the idea that being > the most popular matters. PREACH IT!!! PREACH IT, BROTHER!!! -- The American Republic will endure, until po

Re: Packages depending on Yelp

2010-05-21 Thread Matěj Cepl
Dne 21.5.2010 11:30, Kevin Kofler napsal(a): > Bastien Nocera wrote: >> The question is why do you ship GTK+ apps on the KDE spin then, not how >> to cripple GTK+ apps's help. > > Because we want our spin to be installable? The liveinst executable is part > of the anaconda package, which requires a

Re: Font rendering in F13

2010-05-25 Thread Matěj Cepl
Dne 25.5.2010 18:17, Adam Williamson napsal(a): > Free world fonts - Deja Vu and so on - > were designed with the autohinter in mind, and tend to look better that > way. Not all of them ... I was chatting with the author of Iconoclasta and he admitted he developed the font on Windows and with BCI

Any volunteers on bug 477486 ???

2010-05-29 Thread Matěj Cepl
The eternal glory and basking in the shite of the FLOSS gods' favour waits for somebody who will be willing to repackage xorg-x11-fonts according to the current font guidelines. Unfortunately, I just don't want to pretend anymore, I will have a time in next couple of months to do it, so I have

Re: Any volunteers on bug 477486 ???

2010-05-29 Thread Matěj Cepl
Dne 29.5.2010 09:03, Matěj Cepl napsal(a): > The eternal glory and basking in the shite of the FLOSS gods' favour ^ ehm, that should be "shine" ... Matěj -- Don't anthropomorphize computers. They don't like it.

Re: JBoss stalled (was Re: status of some packages ??)

2010-06-04 Thread Matěj Cepl
Dne 3.6.2010 21:09, Tom "spot" Callaway napsal(a): > You might feel that way, but the simple fact is that French citizens can > not abandon copyright (aka put works into the Public Domain). Do we have some better authority on this than Wikipedia? In my understanding (in a dim memory, now long-tim

Re: JBoss stalled (was Re: status of some packages ??)

2010-06-04 Thread Matěj Cepl
Dne 4.6.2010 22:10, Tom "spot" Callaway napsal(a): > Matěj, as I'm sure you know, we could find a lawyer who would tell us I said European IP lawyer, but I will let it be. Matěj -- When you're happy that cut and paste actually works I think it's a sign you've been using X-Windows for too long.

Re: Package Review Stats for last week ending 20th June

2010-06-21 Thread Matěj Cepl
Dne 21.6.2010 10:46, Marcela Mašláňová napsal(a): >> Marcela Mašláňová : 1 >> >> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=578480 spectrum >> > Here is another bug. I've done only the first review in this list. The other one was kindly provided to me by Michal Schmidt. Matěj -- devel

Re: who is Petr Pisar from redhat ?

2010-07-02 Thread Matěj Cepl
Dne 2.7.2010 09:37, Rahul Sundaram napsal(a): > On 07/02/2010 12:57 PM, Josephine Tannhäuser wrote: >> It's seems to me that you have to be an employee of red hat to get the >> privilegue to deal arbitrarily with all packages. > > Incorrect. Anyone in the provenpackagers group has access to almo

Re: concept of package "ownership"

2010-07-02 Thread Matěj Cepl
Dne 2.7.2010 06:28, Adam Miller napsal(a): > I don't think it really matters what we call it, I just think that > package maintainers are starting to get a sense of entitlement and I > feel that's counter productive to the open environment we're used to > and are trying to help continue to grow. I

Re: who is Petr Pisar from redhat ?

2010-07-02 Thread Matěj Cepl
Dne 2.7.2010 11:34, Michael Schwendt napsal(a): > Of course there is. There ought to be prior communication about such plans > to upgrade a package. The primary package maintainer may have good reasons > for not upgrading the package. Just ask! The primary package maintainer (see the other thread

Re: dist-git testers wanted!

2010-07-13 Thread Matěj Cepl
Dne 13.7.2010 01:28, Jesse Keating napsal(a): > Thanks in advance! (and find me on IRC or file tickets against > fedora-packager in fedora hosted if you run into issues) Cannot find you on IRC ... https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-packager/ticket/18 Matěj -- understand, v.: To reach a point

Re: Developers of packages please pay attention to selinux labeling.

2010-07-13 Thread Matěj Cepl
Dne 13.7.2010 17:33, Pádraig Brady napsal(a): > Personally I do momentarily enable to test but always disable > because of _hundreds_ of errors in the applet thingy. Hundreds? I have been running RHEL-6 from mid-Januray (that means Rawhide was quite stable comparing to it) with SELinux in the Enf

Re: Developers of packages please pay attention to selinux labeling.

2010-07-13 Thread Matěj Cepl
Dne 13.7.2010 23:17, Pádraig Brady napsal(a): > To be clear, the "hundreds" contained many duplicates. > I'm not complaining since I haven't looked into any > of these issues, I'm just trying to provide insight > into why SELinux might not be as tested as one would like. Just to note, that setroub

Re: Question regarding dist-git aesthetics with branches

2010-07-21 Thread Matěj Cepl
Dne 21.7.2010 08:22, Roland McGrath napsal(a): > What does "manually" mean, anyway? A database query and a short script? Isn't this something which automatic QA process could do very easily? Matěj -- He uses statistics as a drunken man uses lamp-posts... for support, rather than illumination.

Re: The move to git!

2010-07-30 Thread Matěj Cepl
Dne 30.7.2010 09:48, Phil Knirsch napsal(a): > I only have 2 words for you and everyone who has put so insanely much > work into this effort for such a long time: > >T H A N K Y O U ! Everybody was bitching about CVS for years, so now we all should say to this +1000 Thank you -- There is

Re: and legacy software Re: pyorbit

2015-07-29 Thread Matěj Cepl
On 2015-07-29, 10:47 GMT, Michael Schwendt wrote: >> As I have thought for some time, I think we should have a team to keep >> packages and make migrations like gtk2 to gkt3, libgnome2, pyorbit, >> gnome-python2, pyhton2 to python3 , qt3 etc etc > > Wishful thinking. Porting from gtk2 to gtk3 is n

Re: and legacy software Re: pyorbit

2015-07-29 Thread Matěj Cepl
On 2015-07-29, 14:31 GMT, Daniel P. Berrange wrote: > FWIW I found the port of Gtk3 pretty straightforward for > my Entangle application and find it quite alot nicer to work > with than Gtk2 in general, so has been a big plus overall. OK, I stand corrected. I am sorry, if I sound too bitter, but

Re: when DEP-3 compliant patches in Fedora?

2015-08-28 Thread Matěj Cepl
On 2015-08-28, 13:01 GMT, Marcin Juszkiewicz wrote: > Yes, I have read it. But lot of maintainers did not. > > Example specfile: > > Source1:%{name}.score > Patch0: %{name}-0.7.1-userpmopts.patch > Patch1: %{name}-0.7.1-64bitfix.patch > Patch2: %{name}-0.7.1-blit-cra

Re: when DEP-3 compliant patches in Fedora?

2015-08-29 Thread Matěj Cepl
On 2015-08-28, 17:09 GMT, Marcin Juszkiewicz wrote: > You mean mass bug reporting for each package where spec file lacks > information about patches? No, just for the package where you are bothered by the lack of information. What I meant is that in the end all those tens of thousands of patche

Re: Looking for new maintainer: ownCloud (Fedora / EPEL)

2015-08-30 Thread Matěj Cepl
On 2015-08-29, 21:27 GMT, Adam Williamson wrote: > Hi, folks. So I've been maintaining ownCloud for the last little > while. Unfortunately I sat down today to try again and update the > package to the latest upstream (8.1.1), and somewhere in the second > hour of insanely stupid PHP autoloader code

Re: Looking for new maintainer: ownCloud (Fedora / EPEL)

2015-08-31 Thread Matěj Cepl
On 2015-08-31, 07:05 GMT, Pierre-Yves Chibon wrote: >> Again, if it works for Adam (or anybody else) it is awesome, but >> I would strongly discourage anybody who is not willing to invest >> substntial amount of a sweat equity from packaging the package >> for Fedora/EPEL. > > Not entirely sure if

Re: Orphaned packages available for new point of contact

2015-09-10 Thread Matěj Cepl
On 2015-09-09, 19:37 GMT, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > pytz > python-dateutil I see these two as too important to let them fall, so I am taking them. However, I would really really like to have some co-maintainers, because I don’t feel like I really understand the matter. Orion? Best, Matěj -- htt

Re: Orphaned packages available for new point of contact

2015-09-10 Thread Matěj Cepl
On 2015-09-10, 09:24 GMT, Mathieu Bridon wrote: > On Thu, 2015-09-10 at 11:16 +0200, Matěj Cepl wrote: >> On 2015-09-09, 19:37 GMT, Kevin Fenzi wrote: >> > pytz >> > python-dateutil >> >> I see these two as too important to let them fall, so I am >>

Re: Orphaned packages available for new point of contact

2015-09-10 Thread Matěj Cepl
On 2015-09-10, 09:24 GMT, Mathieu Bridon wrote: > On Thu, 2015-09-10 at 11:16 +0200, Matěj Cepl wrote: >> On 2015-09-09, 19:37 GMT, Kevin Fenzi wrote: >> > pytz >> > python-dateutil >> >> I see these two as too important to let them fall, so I am >>

Re: Proposal to reduce anti-bundling requirements

2015-09-11 Thread Matěj Cepl
On 2015-09-10, 19:10 GMT, Przemek Klosowski wrote: >> The reason for this proposal is relatively simple: we know the >> advantages to unbundling, particularly with security and resource- >> usage. However, the world's developer community largely *does not >> care*. We fought the good fight, we trie

Re: Proposal to reduce anti-bundling requirements

2015-09-13 Thread Matěj Cepl
On 2015-09-13, 13:13 GMT, Haïkel wrote: > But, distros have lost the influence they used to have then, we're in the > cloud/container era where people bundle everything ... And they won't retake it by giving up. Then they will just give ammunition to the idiots persuading them they are right. >

Re: Proposal to reduce anti-bundling requirements

2015-09-13 Thread Matěj Cepl
On 2015-09-13, 20:23 GMT, Haïkel wrote: > The Java world is definitively not moving in the right direction. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Java_Module_System is IMHO The Right Thing™ and it is still on the list of deliverables for Java 9 (still to be feature complete on 2015-12-10). > Recently,

Re: Proposal: Increasing application icon sizes to 64px

2014-09-29 Thread Matěj Cepl
On 2014-09-26, 10:19 GMT, Richard Hughes wrote: > At the moment applications have to provide an icon >= 32x32px in size > to be included in the AppStream metadata and shown in the software > center. This is *tiny* on a HiDPI screen, so should I mandate that all > applications ship a 64x64 (and idea

Re: How to handle upgrades to Fedora 21

2014-09-30 Thread Matěj Cepl
On 2014-09-24, 16:22 GMT, Jaroslav Reznik wrote: > In Czech we say "Když se kácí strom, létají třísky" I have to admit I have hard time with this proverb. Whenever I hear somebody to use it is usually to cover for his mistakes or worse (it was a favorite proverb of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki

Re: btrfs as default filesystem for F22?

2014-10-06 Thread Matěj Cepl
On 2014-10-06, 14:30 GMT, Eric Sandeen wrote: > IOWs, I'd like to see much more than "because it can do snapshots and > checksums" as the rationale; there are most definitely interesting things > that btrfs can do (or is working on doing), but as btrfs has evolved, so has > the rest of the Linux st

Re: Remove Perl from minimal build root

2014-10-30 Thread Matěj Cepl
On 2014-10-30, 14:04 GMT, Chris Adams wrote: > Once upon a time, Vít Ondruch said: >> I am pretty sure, that this was already discussed many times, but I >> proposed to drop the seemingly last dependency of RPM on Perl in this >> [1] ticket and hence Perl from minimal buildroot (unless it will be

Re: Remove Perl from minimal build root

2014-10-31 Thread Matěj Cepl
On 2014-10-31, 08:54 GMT, Vít Ondruch wrote: > This is really good point Matěj, thanks for bringing this up! It’s like alcoholism: once lawyer, always lawyer, I am afraid. Best, Matěj -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fed

Re: FESCO request to revert password confirmation change in F22

2015-03-10 Thread Matěj Cepl
On 2015-03-10, 10:15 GMT, Björn Persson wrote: >> The user surely knows better what a good password is than the >> software does. If the user picks a crappy password, there's probably a good >> reason. > > There are two possible reasons why you would say that. Either you > haven't even looked at

Re: F22 Self Contained Change: Disabled Repositories Support

2015-03-20 Thread Matěj Cepl
On 2015-03-17, 15:51 GMT, Richard Hughes wrote: > On 17 March 2015 at 15:35, Miloslav Trmač wrote: >> Wait, the metadata download and search code is not shared? What would it >> take to make it so? > > No. The dnf code is in python and the libhif code is in C. Sorry, I am just a stupid idiot wr

Re: F22 Self Contained Change: Disabled Repositories Support

2015-03-20 Thread Matěj Cepl
On 2015-03-20, 14:28 GMT, Richard Hughes wrote: > Now imagine you're trying to write a command-not-found implementation > that uses python to load yum. The Yum codebase is pretty huge, and by > the time the 50ms "user needs results now" timer expires we're not > even at "loading metadata" let alon

Re: Tools to Automatically Report Bugs Upstream?

2015-04-03 Thread Matěj Cepl
On 2015-04-03, 16:36 GMT, Moez Roy wrote: > Are there any tools to automatically report bugs upstream? > > i.e. from RedHat's Bugzilla to upstream's bugzilla / github issues / > bug tracking software. https://fedorahosted.org/bugzilla-triage-scripts/ can do it ... but you have to write the prope

How to build one TeXLive subpackage for EPEL-7?

2015-04-07 Thread Matěj Cepl
Hi, I would like to build lilypond for EPEL-7, but unfortunately it requires texlive-metapost which we don't have in the RHEL-7 texlive. Now, the question is how to build just one subpackage (or any required other subpackages) from the monstrosity which the current texlive? Anybody any suggest

Re: How to build one TeXLive subpackage for EPEL-7?

2015-04-08 Thread Matěj Cepl
On 2015-04-08, 01:06 GMT, Jason L Tibbitts III wrote: > Just package it separately. They should all have proper upstream > tarballs, and there's no reason not to just make individual packages if > that's what you need. And, hey, while you're at it, stick them in > rawhide and make the texlive pac

Re: How to build one TeXLive subpackage for EPEL-7?

2015-04-08 Thread Matěj Cepl
On 2015-04-08, 08:12 GMT, M. Edward (Ed) Borasky wrote: > And I'm curious why there are texlive packages in Fedora that > aren't in EPEL - I assume it's a human or machine resource constraint. Not in EPEL, but in the RHEL-7. Obviously Red Hat delivers only a subset of whole TeXLive. Best, Matěj

Re: UTF-8 locale in rpm build

2015-05-10 Thread Matěj Cepl
On 2015-05-10, 03:00 GMT, Orion Poplawski wrote: > More and more tests/builds appear to require a UTF-8 locale. Perhaps > it's time to have rpm set LANG=C.UTF-8? Which part f C.UTF-8 is not covered by en_US.UTF-8? Best, Matěj -- http://www.ceplovi.cz/matej/, Jabber: mceplceplovi.cz GPG Finger

Orphaning spectrum in Fedora

2014-04-29 Thread Matěj Cepl
That’s spectrum1 which has been long dead upstream, and there is no further development in upstream (for spectrum2 which would be a replacement), so I don't want to drag it further. I’ll keep it in EPEL 5,6 and if any bug happens, I’ll patch it. Any takers? Yeah, I thought so Matěj --

Re: COPR can't download SRPMs?

2014-06-08 Thread Matěj Cepl
On 2014-06-08, 13:41 GMT, Pierre-Yves Chibon wrote: > I have the same problem for quite a while already: > http://copr-be.cloud.fedoraproject.org/results/pingou/subsurface/fedora-rawhide-x86_64/build-17727.log Mee too http://copr.fedoraproject.org/coprs/mcepl/xiphos-3.2.1/ Matěj -- devel maili

Re: COPR can't download SRPMs?

2014-06-09 Thread Matěj Cepl
On 2014-06-09, 14:21 GMT, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > This issue should be fixed now. Thanks a lot. Matěj -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct

Re: dnf replacement for yum-cron

2014-06-17 Thread Matěj Cepl
On 2014-06-16, 15:06 GMT, drago01 wrote: >> yum-cron can actually apply updates [] > > That sounds dangerous ... updates are not really atomic (i.e not at > all) doing them silently in the background is a very bad idea. Yes, yum-cron has been hated by Seth for years, but there was still this

Re: Doesn’t LDD break no-content rule?

2012-08-11 Thread Matěj Cepl
(sorry, once more, this time to the correct address) On 11/08/12 23:03, Jason L Tibbitts III wrote: Maybe you should tell us why you believe it is. I don't see how it violates any of the rules for content. I thought that the rule is that Fedora packages shouldn't contain just a pure content.

Re: Packages in need of new maintainers

2012-10-05 Thread Matěj Cepl
On Wed, 03 Oct 2012 13:23:02 -0500, Jon Ciesla wrote: > git-bugzilla -- Attach patches to a bugzilla bug I'll take it. FAS name: mcepl Matěj -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: Packages in need of new maintainers UPDATED LIST

2012-10-08 Thread Matěj Cepl
On Mon, 08 Oct 2012 18:15:52 -0700, T.C. Hollingsworth wrote: > Because I haven't entirely run kicking and screaming from attempting to > package nodejs, I (FAS: "patches") will take: Do you think you would be able to make somewhere buildable packages of nodejs (before you can manage to push it t

Re: [Feature Suggestion] UsrMove continued

2012-10-10 Thread Matěj Cepl
On Wed, 10 Oct 2012 13:11:12 +0300, Serge wrote: > Turning /lib into /usr/lib was also incompatible with every other Linux > distro, nevertheless it's already done. The fact that we've made one useless and harmful mistake doesn't mean that we should repeat it all the time. Matěj -- devel maili

Re: Rolling release model philosophy (was Re: Anaconda is totally trashing the F18 schedule (was Re: f18: how to install into a LVM partitions (or RAID)))

2012-11-04 Thread Matěj Cepl
On Fri, 02 Nov 2012 20:55:38 +, Jóhann B. Guðmundsson wrote: > and one "stable" release ( valid for 2 maybe 3 years ) for those in the > community that want something they dont constantly having to upgrade to > and can deploy on their servers. ( ofcourse to have a stable release we > first and

Re: Rolling release model philosophy (was Re: Anaconda is totally trashing the F18 schedule (was Re: f18: how to install into a LVM partitions (or RAID)))

2012-11-04 Thread Matěj Cepl
On Fri, 02 Nov 2012 13:22:21 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > I disagree. It's usable by the kind of people who use Fedora. Who like > shiny cutting-edge stuff and don't mind dealing with wonkiness > constantly. I wouldn't dream of putting any regular person on a Fedora > install, quite frankly. It'

Re: Anaconda is totally trashing the F18 schedule (was Re: f18: how to install into a LVM partitions (or RAID))

2012-11-04 Thread Matěj Cepl
On Fri, 02 Nov 2012 13:32:33 +, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: > If you substitute 'unstable' for level 1, 'testing' for level 2 and > 'stable' for level 3, then this is not dissimilar to how Debian > operates. Sure, and if you eliminate level 3 (which leads to multi-year-long freezes), then you h

Re: Rolling release model philosophy (was Re: Anaconda is totally trashing the F18 schedule (was Re: f18: how to install into a LVM partitions (or RAID)))

2012-11-06 Thread Matěj Cepl
On Mon, 05 Nov 2012 13:53:37 +0100, Ralf Corsepius wrote: >> That's called CentOS, > Nope ... CentOS/RHEL is a different end of extremes. > > 7 years+ life-time, no API changes, etc. > What is lacking is a middle ground between "Fedora" and "CentOS". > > Something with a life-time of "~2 years",

Re: Tcl/Tk 8.6

2013-08-14 Thread Matěj Cepl
On 2013-08-14, 09:55 GMT, Christopher Meng wrote: > There are some issues of 8.6, people are trying to fix it. > > Please search carefully and choose users list next time. > > http://bugzilla.redhat.com/889201 Sending the original poster to the users list doesn't sound like fair to me. Everybody

Re: does mc really require perl*?

2013-09-11 Thread Matěj Cepl
On 2013-09-11, 09:36 GMT, Ian Malone wrote: > Can someone explain what the consequences of a 'soft dependency' would > actually be and how it would be different from putting those files > into a sub-package? (Which may or may not work depending on whether mc > is able to cope dynamically with that.

[OffTopic] Backup of messages from Google Groups group?

2013-09-11 Thread Matěj Cepl
Hi, I know that I am off topic here, but I guess somebody here may tried to deal with this issue. I would like to create a group on gmane.org for jbr...@googlegroups.com list and if possible import all its messages there (because, among reasons, it is obvious that gmane.org is much more user f

Re: does mc really require perl*?

2013-09-11 Thread Matěj Cepl
On 2013-09-11, 15:56 GMT, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: > mc is also missing a dependency on dpkg! Not really. If some esteemed Perl hacker here would be willing to spent some time on /usr/libexec/mc/extfs.d/dpkg+ I think it could be possible to get it into shape. Deb archives are nothing than else

Re: Handling bugs which are fixed in upstream, but not released yet

2016-09-14 Thread Matěj Cepl
On 2016-09-14, 12:41 GMT, Igor Gnatenko wrote: > Probably you use whiteboard to indicate where it was fixed, > close bug and write into comment that it will be fixed in next > upstream release or ...? Either External Trackers (if the tracker is defined), or "See Also" with URL of the ticket. M

Does anybody plan to package GIMP Saver plugin?

2014-11-11 Thread Matěj Cepl
http://shallowsky.com/software/gimp-save/ It seems awfully useful (yes, I hate the Save/Export split), but I have too much already on my plate. Matěj -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedora

Re: Does anybody plan to package GIMP Saver plugin?

2014-11-11 Thread Matěj Cepl
On 2014-11-11, 15:29 GMT, Patrick Laimbock wrote: > I created one but am in need of a sponsor. > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1162731 I would gladly do the review, but unfortunately I am not a sponsor. Matěj -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedor

Re: Mozilla enabled ads in Firefox and they're active in Fedora

2014-11-16 Thread Matěj Cepl
On 2014-11-16, 05:31 GMT, Ralf Corsepius wrote: >> I don't really understand the issue at all. > We have a "no-phone-home" and "no-spy" policy in Fedora. And I believe the same goes for the Mozilla ... did anybody check their privacy policy? https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/privacy/ Also, https:

Re: Mozilla enabled ads in Firefox and they're active in Fedora

2014-11-20 Thread Matěj Cepl
On 2014-11-20, 14:28 GMT, Petr Viktorin wrote: > Ads are a feature that only benefits the upstream and the companies that > pay for the ads. From my (user's) perspective, there is no reason to > have them on my system. There is no benefit to me from this feature. Sorry, I have to ask here the o

Re: Mozilla enabled ads in Firefox and they're active in Fedora

2014-11-21 Thread Matěj Cepl
On 2014-11-20, 16:17 GMT, Petr Viktorin wrote: > Every piece of Fedora is like that, and yet I don't see any > other software doing useless-for-me opt-out tracking. > (Also, who am I paying? All authors of Firefox, or only the Mozilla > employees?) How many multizillion LoC end-user applications

Re: Abotu setting 'PermitRootLogin=no' in sshd_config

2014-11-21 Thread Matěj Cepl
On 2014-11-21, 10:55 GMT, Roberto Ragusa wrote: > For rsync-as-root use cases my usual approach is to create > another account with userid=0 and login with ssh on this > account. Proper way is actually to use command parameter in authorized_keys on server and for example https://ftp.samba.org/

Re: Mozilla enabled ads in Firefox and they're active in Fedora

2014-11-24 Thread Matěj Cepl
On 2014-11-24, 11:02 GMT, Reindl Harald wrote: > and *that* is the real problem of the whole thread: 90% are based on > assumptions and opinions instead of verified facts which is very strange > when talking about open source Or without checking tons of information provided on the Mozilla websi

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