ays Bad signature from that person. Also
> upstream didn't provide gpg keyring in his project. What should I do?
Please post URLs to the files so I can see what kind of signatures or
checksums they actually contain.
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Björn Persson wrote:
>Baxi wrote:
>> Hi. I am trying to package a program. The upstream provided sha256sum.asc
>> file. Verifying tarball with that signature says, Can't check signature: No
>> public key. I found his public key in key directory by searching his email
e more
cumbersome, which would reduce the likelihood that I'd get the work
done.
And no, I'm not going to dump a perfectly serviceable laptop in a
landfill just to accommodate Fedora.
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A survey among Steam's customers is presumably heavily biased towards
beefy gaming machines with brand-new high-end processors. If as many as
11% lack even AVX1 in that dataset, then there must be a much higher
percentage without the newer AVX2 among non-gaming desktops and laptops.
Björn
ased, then obviously you
can't verify it against upstream's signature. If you must remove
something for legal reasons, and you still want to verify the tarball,
then you can sign your modified tarball with your own key.
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onse to that I added the paragraph that explains that a
signature by the upstream developers certifies that the source is
identical to what they released, not just that the file is the one that
the packager uploaded. Policies should come with justification, so
thank you for pointing out tha
ckager can't neglect
to verify the signature, then that might also work for Fedora's needs.
You'll have to think hard about how the code will know which source
file to verify against which signature in all possible situations.
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ny key to a keyserver. That's the primary reason why upstream
projects should publish their keys on their own websites.
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en not happen. No one else could know whether the
signature had been verified or not.
Having that functionality back could be a useful tool, but it would not
replace verification during the build, which the packager can't just
forget to do once they have added the on
nings that my API
key (token, key, whatever) is about to expire and the sky is going to
fall unless I get a new one. I'm not using that token in any
"non-interrupted service". I'll get a new token next time I add a new
package, which may be years from now, if that system is still in
pagure.io/koji/issue/1418
The workaround seems to be to resubmit until it works.
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t components.
Authenticating in advance with kinit would continue to work, so nobody's
workflow would break.
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accusation is false.
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230-we strongly encourage you to change them to use HTTPS instead.
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Kevin Fenzi wrote:
> On 8/10/19 4:12 AM, Björn Persson wrote:
> > Rafal Luzynski wrote:
> >> 9.08.2019 22:10 Jerry James wrote:
> >>> Source: https://ftp.gnu.org/pub/gnu/gettext/%{name}-%{version}.tar.xz
> >>
> >> Do we need to change ftp t
require the user to explicitly turn off security. These days
there seem to be several VNC variants that support some form of
encryption. I don't know what their defaults are, but maybe some of
them are responsible enough to not communicate insecurely.
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awman argument, and got knocked out by your own strawman.
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;re considering requiring permission even for outgoing
connections – which would be unbearable to the user – the attack code
would just make an API call (through Dbus or whatever) to grant itself
permission to communicate.
You need to present some much more detailed and thought-through
scenarios if you
Second, a solution that works only for IPv4 is not a solution in the
year 2019. You need to take IPv6 seriously, or you won't be taken
seriously.
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John Harris wrote:
>On Tuesday, August 27, 2019 5:36:20 AM MST Björn Persson wrote:
>> Please elaborate. Where does the script come from, what exactly happens
>> by accident, and how would a packet filter stop it?
>
>It could come from anywhere, that's not the point.
able falsehoods doesn't
help your case.
If you explicitly configure PostgreSQL to listen for external
connections, and also configure no authentication, and blindly assume
that there is a packet filter in place to keep you safe, then you won't
get much sympathy from me.
As for the rest, this exc
erface to listen only on that
network, or maybe a localhost address to listen only on the loopback
interface. The port and the network interface are specified together in
a single sockaddr object passed to a single system call, so it's very
much the same thing.
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until the permanent name has been decided and implemented.
Other than that, the proposal sounds good to me.
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ng functionality in FAS is to be replaced
with a new "login" that this group will develop?
Is this perhaps about cleaning up the incoherent multitude of half-
baked authentication methods that packagers have to wrestle with, so
we'll only need to authenticate once to work o
e used for password resets, so just
dropping that would be a decrease in security.
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od for the Fedora
Project's security, but it should run on hardware under the Fedora
Project's control.
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han 21 years
I've had PGP keys I have never once been able to validate a key through
a chain of signatures. The attack on SKS is another nail in its coffin.
Another certification method is needed, and WKD is one candidate.
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A directory server integrated with FAS's successor wouldn't have to try
to verify keys over insecure email. Users could upload their key to
their account, and that would be sufficient proof that the key is
theirs.
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https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc8657
https://community.letsencrypt.org/t/acme-caa-validationmethods-support/63125
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>int y; /* definition */
>#endif
>
>Most c files would include "header.h" and main.c would do this instead
>
>#define MAIN
>#include "header.h"
After preprocessing that is exactly the same as this:
header.h:
extern int y;
main.c:
#include "he
Neal Gompa wrote:
>We may want to replace it with a simple Web Key Directory server:
For anyone who is interested, this possibility is being explored here:
https://github.com/fedora-infra/securitas/issues/118
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my opinion. I think logs should be rotated by default to avoid such
surprises.
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ge will keep that name, right? So if we tell packagers
to write "BuildRequires: gnupg2" in their spec files, that dependency
will remain valid forever?
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er leaves my workstation. But I don't want this at the
cost of having my productivity hampered by Gnome 3.
I have poked around trying to find some "Online Accounts" program or
package, but I didn't find anything I could run from another desktop.
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nfrequent Fedora contributor I'll of course log in
only when I actually access Fedora systems.
But that doesn't matter to me as long as it's tied to Gnome 3.
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causes
why security holes are so abundant in most of the world's software.
Go fix your buffer overflows! Pronto!
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rary and the
bundled JPEG library, so it looks like you need to do more to unbundle
it completely.
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400fc9f92/tests.yml/mysql++-3.2.4-2.fc30.log
dist.abicheck NEEDS_INSPECTION for mysql++-3.2.4-2.fc30
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applied to the users' own, non-RPM-packaged software.
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sake of renaming. Pointless changes cost time and money that could
have been spent doing useful work instead.
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's Yum in RHEL 7 and (I hear) it will be Yum
in RHEL 8. Presumably the reason for this is that the sysadmins who
manage RHEL systems like continuity, dislike pointless renaming, and
really hate having to remember to type "dnf" on some servers and "yum"
on others for no
hy is rand or a simple
serial number not good enough? I never heard that lack of a
cryptographically secure invocation ID was a big security problem
before SystemD.
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llation.
Such values would of course be somewhat predictable, but according to
what you've said in this thread, invocation IDs don't need to be
unpredictable. You've only said that you want them unique.
(Of course one needs to be aware that collisions are not impossible,
on
Stephen J. Turnbull wrote:
> Kevin Fenzi writes:
> > I guess I will enable the From field mitigation for this list, but I
> > will not like it. ;)
>
> It's possible to do this only for domains that advertise p=reject.
Yes please, don't break things more than w
reasons, even though Boinc has a legitimate
use case.
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Germano Massullo skrev:
>Il giorno mar 4 giu 2019 alle ore 17:31 Björn Persson
> ha scritto:
>> Have you confirmed that you're able to query another user's desktop session
>> once
>> you know which desktop it is?
>
>I cannot read XDG_CURRENT_DESKTOP of
guages.
The latter would include GUI translations, documentation, dictionaries,
a wider selection of fonts, et cetera.
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>scripts
Would it not be possible to program DNF to update what can be updated
and then return a nonzero exit code?
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programming language with another, and it's no wonder that it's going
slowly.
There may be good arguments for why /usr/bin/python should survive the
removal of Python 2, but this comparison to GCC isn't one.
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ng as stable and mature software.
It would be unfortunate if high-quality software would be kicked out
just because it's not in constant flux.
But if there are known security bugs and nobody is fixing them, then
yes, dump that junk in a deep-sea trench!
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hus it seems to me that DNF must handle this
situation regardless of whether lazy loading gets implemented or not.
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22 C#
83 C++
73 Java
5 JavaScript
12 Perl
23 PHP
3 Python
3 Ruby
1 SQL
3 XML
Obviously the classification is far from complete. Otherwise Objective-C
would occur about as frequently as C and C++, for example.
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me up with a sentence that
describes your package and includes the word you want, then perhaps
that word isn't actually a good tag for that package?
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https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/1935
You'd have to obtain some kind of exemption from that policy if you
want to keep an insecure Jquery 1 around indefinitely.
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ccessfully.
There is no error message from kinit, no indication that anything is
wrong other than the exit code 141. I can't find any documentation of
exit codes from kinit. Thus I have no hint at what the problem might be.
Does anyone know what this code means?
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.se 1 10 377 501 -207us[ -176us] +/- 12ms
^+ static-5-103-128-88.ip.f> 1 10 377 305 +7123us[+7123us] +/- 25ms
^- 85.129.0.126 2 10 377 518 -2605us[-2574us] +/- 44ms
^+ 78.156.103.10 2 10 177 101 +7132us[+7132us] +/-
gives me some ideas for things
to experiment with after the tickets I currently have have expired.
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Björn Persson wrote:
> Tony Nelson wrote:
> > No, but googling "kinit 141" leads to
> > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1537866
> > which suggests trying the kinit command twice in a row.
>
> I would think I must have tried at least twice the fi
Alexander Bokovoy wrote:
> Can you provide output from
>
> export KRB5_TRACE=/dev/stderr
> klist -A
> kinit
> fedpkg build
>
> ?
The log is attached. I tried it twice as Tony Nelson suggested. The
first attempt failed as usual, but the second attempt was successful.
or the PIPE
signal. For most signals there is a message: "Terminated", "Killed",
"Segmentation fault", "Illegal instruction" and so on – but not for
PIPE.
So that suggests two bugs: Something that kinit communicates with
crashes, and kinit is too naïve to cat
t the KCM deamon
> - attach the logs at /var/log/sssd/*
Bug 1537866 looks very similar to what I see, so I added to that one.
I also filed bug 1631998 against kinit.
I think I've also found the difference between my two computers:
sssd-kcm is not installed on the one where I don&
the way, the way that Pagure tries to syntax-highlight the .adoc
files is very confusing. I don't know which language Pagure tries to
syntax-highlight – or rather which two languages, because the way it
sprinkles colors over the file in the "blame" view is entirely different
from what i
view the result of my edits. "If I change the .adoc
file like this, does it cause the desired change to the HTML code?"
That was all I needed to know. It can hardly be necessary to mess with
containers just to convert a document from one markup language to
anoth
scape Navigator" feeling though. Not only are
there several different badly designed document authoring languages,
but they're apparently even splitting into tool-specific dialects.
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John Florian wrote:
> And conversely, shouldn't
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging:Guidelines be telling viewers
> they now need to go to docs.fp.o?
Not until the conversion is finished, in my opinion.
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unchanged,
so that sorting and filtering rules can recognize the list. But I'm sure
many people select on the list address instead, so in practice you have
to preserve both the list ID and the list address to make the transition
smooth.
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umb to reply to
an email correctly? Your messages break the threading.
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g one of the better Mail User
Agents.
Humans will always misremember things, and not bother to check because
they think they remember. No technology is going to help with that
until we get direct neural interfaces.
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art with a single package. I had
three myself, but they depended on each other so one specific package
had to go first. A beginner with multiple independent packages, such
that they can be reviewed and imported in arbitrary order, is probably
an uncomm
ourse is not
usable as a list server. Those who want to replace Mailman with
Discourse should work on improving its email capabilities until it can
be used as a list server.
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a domain name.
But if those new topics can't be sent to a mailing-list-equivalent, but
just end up in some sort of "other" bucket, then it seems useless
anyway.
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continuation line begins
with whitespace, which it looks like it does. Folding is even
recommended for lines longer than 78 characters. Programs that parse
email are supposed to unfold folded lines.
The complexities of text-based protocols provide for so much fun!
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e Discourse developers like,
as long as it's at most 64 bytes and adheres to the dot-atom-text syntax
in RFC 5322.
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Kevin Fenzi wrote:
> On Sun, Apr 23, 2023 at 11:21:58PM +0200, Björn Persson wrote:
> > Kevin Fenzi wrote:
> > > We could probibly come up with some
> > > better way to start new topics/discussions
> >
> > Yes I think I can come up with a better way.
used to run it, then?
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I have to
figure out and remember when I have to start the browser for demanding
Javascript programs and when I can use the browser with the stable and
sensible user interface.
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to Seamonkey to keep the Web calm when
the ability to stop GIF animations was removed from Firefox. That's
still relevant in places, but these days the greatest advantage of
Seamonkey is that I don't have to relearn how to do things each time
Firefox's user interface gets reshuff
Aurelien Bompard wrote:
> do you mind opening a ticket on FMN's tracker please?
Done: https://github.com/fedora-infra/fmn/issues/901
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ecurity' is not valid for Ada”
over and over. It doesn't break any builds but it's annoying noise in
the build logs.
It would be better if __global_compiler_flags would contain only
language-independent parameters, and language-specific parameters were
added in build_cflags and
Jakub Jelinek wrote:
> On Wed, May 10, 2023 at 12:09:10AM +0200, Björn Persson wrote:
> > Florian Weimer wrote:
> > > I am going to explore a way to land -Werror=implicit-int
> > > -Werror=implicit-function-declaration among the default compiler flags.
> > > T
re though, because GCC outputs filenames in uncolored bold text,
so even a bold prompt would blend in among the compilation errors.
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unusable minimal.
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mpt is configured in a completely different place
than the background, and separately on each server, the prompt must be
readable by default on both light and dark backgrounds.
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– and you're using IPv6 and NAT64, then you and
your peer will both be unable to connect to each other. If globally
routable IPv4 addresses are available on the network where you are,
then you'll want one so that your peer can at least connect to you.
Users of peer-to-peer programs will want
about integrating sysusers support
into RPM. That should allow an upstream sysusers file to work in all
cases, if I understand correctly. If your package currently works, then
I suggest waiting until the RPM integration is done before you change
how user accounts are created
t; in the beginning. I think all prompts should begin
with that to clear any attributes that may have been left behind by a
broken program. (Try "echo -e '\e[8m'" and see if it hides your prompt.)
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Move away from using the kernel command line for configuration.
I note that taking away the kernel command line is indeed a clearly
stated goal, which will limit Fedora to simple, appliance-like uses.
If any of what I wrote above misrepresents the change owner's
intentions, then the change p
Gerd Hoffmann wrote:
> On Tue, Dec 20, 2022 at 08:42:14PM +0100, Björn Persson wrote:
> > > Switching the whole distro over to unified kernels quickly is not
> > > realistic though. Too many features are depending on the current
> > > workflow with a host-specific in
.
Probably never, because I have way too much to do already.
Apparently there is no such tool and no plan to provide one, because
surely that would have been mentioned under "User Experience".
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d at least
said "byte-swapped" it would probably have gotten me searching in the
right direction, but if the X server wants to be helpful it should say
"big/little-endian mismatch; the option AllowSwappedClients is off".
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ork reliably. I see no big eye-catching warning that such-and-such
must be smaller than x bytes.
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is there some competition to produce the most textless user interface?
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ring the attitude to security I've seen from CUPS before, I
won't be surprised if they just assume that someone else will protect
them from DNS rebinding attacks.
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ndency order, and
that's not how the mass rebuild does it.
I'd be willing to cooperate to do the rebuild in a side tag, but I
can't promise to always be available at a moment's notice.
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not set them aside and then tag them all in at the
end.
So as things stand, these rebuilds need to be done by a human who knows
the dependency graph.
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ntenance. It's not like
something will break if the conditional isn't removed in time.
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And that's such a fancy modern Javascript program that it can't even be
scrolled in a browser with a stable user interface. Wonderful.
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alls it "Set tag extra option". I would not
have guessed that an "extra option" would transform into an RPM macro,
nor that a "_with_" prefix would need to be added.
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