Re: fedora-package purpose and future

2018-09-04 Thread Ben Rosser
ols So I would guess that many packagers have followed this advice and have it installed on their systems. I certainly do. Ben Rosser ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproje

Re: Orphaning some Java packages

2018-09-24 Thread Ben Rosser
packages out there that aren't in modules, or don't necessarily need to be in modules-- unless parts of the distribution start becoming module-only. (Maybe this discussion belongs in a new thread, but I think it's important). Ben Rosser ___

Re: Modularity is still confusing

2018-10-10 Thread Ben Rosser
t of the reason I haven't tried it is because I'm not sure if it will actually be better... I guess it would be nice to read a sort of "modularity for the skeptical contributor" document or article that answers questions like this. Ben Rosser ___

Re: Fedora should replace mailing lists with Discourse

2018-10-16 Thread Ben Rosser
ide change proposal, and I think generally similar policies should be applied when considering major changes to the distribution's infrastructure. And the mailing lists are definitely an important part of the distribution's infrastructure. Ben Rosser

Re: Fedora should replace mailing lists with Discourse

2018-10-16 Thread Ben Rosser
quire switching one list over and seeing how well it works (and it sounded like the Council was considering doing this with council-discuss, which is probably a good first step). Ben Rosser ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscr

Re: Fedora should replace mailing lists with Discourse

2018-10-19 Thread Ben Rosser
advocating the change seem unwilling to acknowledge this, or have dismissed it as people who aren't willing to move with the times, or as just "hyperbole". Ben Rosser ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org

Re: Orphaning several packages.

2018-10-23 Thread Ben Rosser
at this briefly a while ago-- it seems to me like verilog-mode is now part of emacs-common: $ rpm -qf /usr/share/emacs/26.1/lisp/progmodes/verilog-mode.elc emacs-common-26.1-3.fc28.x86_64 Is the stand-alone emacs-verilog-mode package necessary anymore, or can it just be re

Re: Ursa Major (modules in buildroot) enablement

2018-11-09 Thread Ben Rosser
very well to add default streams of modules to the buildroot automatically-- I think that makes sense, if it can be done in a way that's transparent to end users and packagers. But-- unless I'm missing something obvious-- this isn't enough, unless every

Re: Fedora Lifecycles: imagine longer-term possibilities

2018-11-14 Thread Ben Rosser
et shipped on laptops than Fedora. Instead of working on a new "Fedora LTS" for this usage case, would time be better spent improving EPEL and CentOS for the desktop/laptop use case? I'd always thought of CentOS/RHEL as "Fedora LTS" anyway, to be honest. Ben Rosser _

Re: Fedora Lifecycles: imagine longer-term possibilities

2018-11-14 Thread Ben Rosser
On Wed, Nov 14, 2018 at 6:04 PM Stephen John Smoogen wrote: > > On Wed, 14 Nov 2018 at 16:03, Ben Rosser wrote: > > > > On Wed, Nov 14, 2018 at 2:55 PM Stephen John Smoogen > > wrote: > > > From what I have talked with in the past.. 3 years is their bare >

Re: Package Question

2018-01-08 Thread Ben Rosser
On Mon, Jan 8, 2018 at 12:58 PM, Rob Crittenden wrote: > Florian Weimer wrote: >> On 01/08/2018 06:21 PM, Steve Dickson wrote: >>> Is it a problem for a package to pull from two different >>> upstream tar balls? Basically have >>> >>> Source0:http://server.com/package1/package1.tar >>> Source1:htt

Re: net-snmp, cmake, mc unresponsive packagers

2018-01-30 Thread Ben Rosser
esponses on the pull request you linked within the last week, including from the maintainer 5 days ago. I'm not sure how this qualifies as "unresponsive"? https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/net-snmp/pull-request/2#comment-3999 Ben Rosser _

Re: Review swaps

2018-02-06 Thread Ben Rosser
On Tue, Feb 6, 2018 at 1:09 PM, Robert-André Mauchin wrote: > Hello, > > I have a handful of packages that I'd like to be reviewed. I'm available for > any reviews you want in exchange (to the best of my ability). Hello, I'm happy to take ddgr and QEverCloud. Are you willing to review the follow

Re: Clean up your spec files

2018-02-08 Thread Ben Rosser
sure it's worth it for a single line. Well... personally, it's pretty annoying to have to remove this from every spec I generate using rpmdev-newspec. It also gives the impression that the newspec-generated specs might be outdated in other respects too. I don't know how ot

Re: [ACTION NEEDED] Missing BuildRequires: gcc/gcc-c++

2018-02-20 Thread Ben Rosser
ocgen tilp2 Ben Rosser ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org

Re: Avoiding Jargon: dist-git

2018-03-24 Thread Ben Rosser
s onto describe technical details about dist-git and then includes a "user's guide", which is helpful... if you are a user trying to set up infrastructure. It's not very relevant to a packager trying to learn their way around things. Ben Rosser ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org

Re: Fedora 34 Change: Stop Shipping Individual Nodejs Library Packages (Self-Contained)

2020-12-10 Thread Ben Rosser
ckages were orphaned and no one was particularly interested in stepping up to take them over. I ended up taking some of them with the hopes of keeping a few pieces of software alive in the short term, but then another large chunk of nodejs packages were orphaned, no one took them, and, frankly, I gav

Approved packages that never get imported?

2017-07-18 Thread Ben Rosser
roviding these packages (https://copr.fedorainfracloud.org/coprs/jonludlam/opam/) about a year ago and never heard back, so... technically I guess I could proceed with the non-responsive maintainer policy. But is that the right thing to do? Thanks in advance, Ben Rosser

Re: Approved packages that never get imported?

2017-07-19 Thread Ben Rosser
On Wed, Jul 19, 2017 at 9:40 AM, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: > The story with this package (and I think there were some others) is > that they are required for 'opam' which is a source-based OCaml > packaging tool (think: Perl and the ‘cpan’ command). Jon Ludlam > turned up wanting to get opam into

Re: Two more concrete ideas for what a once-yearly+update schedule would look like

2017-07-31 Thread Ben Rosser
someone from flagging their bodhi update as "newpackage" when it's not, in fact, a new package to bypass the batching, but this seems like something that should be easy to do. Thanks, Ben Rosser ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org

Re: Two more concrete ideas for what a once-yearly+update schedule would look like

2017-07-31 Thread Ben Rosser
dea - care to propose it on the pull request yourself > since it was your idea? This is the line where an "or self.type is > newpackage" would go: > > https://github.com/fedora-infra/bodhi/pull/1678/files#diff-6406e7faaf25263056c68009517cf66dR2376 Certainly; I've left a

Re: Pagure over dist-git: what changes?

2017-08-06 Thread Ben Rosser
gration!-- but the lack of one seems like an annoying but small regression. Ben Rosser ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org

Re: Introduction/looking for a sponsorship

2017-08-06 Thread Ben Rosser
e interested in submitting prename to the review queue in addition to your other packages, I would be happy to take the review. I see you've already been sponsored, which is great! Ben Rosser ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedor

Re: Introduction/looking for a sponsorship

2017-08-06 Thread Ben Rosser
ge to need the change process, but it should be discussed) making rename into an alternative. [1] https://stackoverflow.com/questions/22577767/get-the-perl-rename-utility-instead-of-the-built-in-rename [2] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging:Alternatives Ben Rosser __

Re: Council Elections - July/August 2017 - Result announcement

2017-08-15 Thread Ben Rosser
or at least giving a brief statement about your goals for the position, should be a *requirement* for running for an elected position in the project. Ben Rosser ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org

Re: f27 branch of retired package (was: pkgdb created branch 'f27' for the 'rpms/varnish-agent' package)

2017-08-16 Thread Ben Rosser
? > > I'm not sure where I should file a bug. > > Thanks, > Dridi The same thing happened to me for my recently retired packages. When I inquired on IRC yesterday, I was told to file a bug against infra, so I did here: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/issue/6256. Ben Ross

Re: [modularity] Modules and AppStream

2017-08-25 Thread Ben Rosser
e for modularity-- on a short timescale in a half-baked manner (as you said) is an example of how it's all too easy *for* it to happen. Respectfully, this does not inspire confidence in how well the rollout of modularity across the entire distribution will go. Ben Rosser ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org

Re: story of kerberos

2017-09-06 Thread Ben Rosser
on my system in order to interact with the different parts of the packaging plumbing. It seems to me that in an ideal world it would only require one mechanism to interact with all these services. That mechanism doesn't need to be Kerberos, bu

Re: Sailing to others seas

2017-09-20 Thread Ben Rosser
d this; I'd be happy to take it. > In rpmfusion (free): > > * openmw -- Unofficial open source engine re-implementation of the game > Morrowind ( master f26 f25 f24 ) I would be happy to take this one too. I've requested ACLs via RPM Fusion pkgd

Re: Kernel 4.13 rebase plans

2017-09-22 Thread Ben Rosser
tential concern under the rug with the "taking the distro hostage" comment, which I think is an overly excitable way to phrase a legitimate concern. Ben Rosser ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org

Re: Mass rebuilds update

2017-10-23 Thread Ben Rosser
https://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/packageinfo?packageID=23320 https://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/packageinfo?packageID=23342 This makes me slightly dubious about the rest of the list. Ben Rosser ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org

Re: Mass rebuilds update

2017-10-23 Thread Ben Rosser
7;s not clear to me why; as far as I knew, they both passed the mass rebuild. Or, rather, the binutils mass rebuild: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_27_Binutils_Mass_Rebuild. I haven't touched the packages since then. I'd be interested to know if this has happened to any of the other pac

Re: Status of OwnCloud/NextCloud

2018-04-03 Thread Ben Rosser
n an older version. (I'd be happy to remake it from scratch on a new NextCloud installation, though. I figured I would probably have to do that anyway at some point). Ben Rosser ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsu

Re: F29 System Wide Change: Hide the grub menu

2018-05-31 Thread Ben Rosser
urned up a blog post or two, an ask.fp.o post, a couple forum threads, and a Stack Exchange post as the first few results, which makes me believe it's not currently well explained anywhere in our documentation? Perhaps that should be fixed, regardless whatever the outcome of this change discussi

Re: F29 System Wide Change: Hide the grub menu

2018-05-31 Thread Ben Rosser
On Thu, May 31, 2018 at 7:29 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Thu, 2018-05-31 at 19:19 -0400, Ben Rosser wrote: >> So, back to the topic of this thread: while I don't think this choice >> belongs in the installer, I do think there should be detailed >> instructions some

Re: Fedora Elections May 2018 - Voting period of FESCo elections has started

2018-06-08 Thread Ben Rosser
arning to use the new infrastructure, which is making it really hard for packagers to stay up to speed. It doesn't help that this stuff isn't always communicated clearly.) Ben Rosser [1] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Join_the_package_collect

Re: Packages which use the BuildRoot: directive

2018-07-11 Thread Ben Rosser
d to require someone's approval (FESCo? FPC?) to maintain a package outside of Fedora dist-git. Then at least the number of such packages could be hopefully kept low. Ben Rosser ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe sen

Re: Packages which use the BuildRoot: directive

2018-07-11 Thread Ben Rosser
lves; some external body or person should need to sign off on it first. And as Matthew said, perhaps a requirement for approving this arrangement could be that the packager in question agrees to respect changes in dist-git (or automatically opened Pagure pull requests, or whatever) made by other

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