Re: GDM dropped support for running X11 sessions in F42 without a Change?

2025-04-14 Thread Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski via devel
On Friday, 11 April 2025 at 10:01, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: [...] > Yes, that sounds like an accurate description of how things would have gone, > had somebody started the process! But it seems that this window has > closed already, because of the decision to release F42 on Thursday. Reve

Fedora eln compose report: 20250415.n.0 changes

2025-04-14 Thread Fedora ELN Report
OLD: Fedora-eln-20250414.n.0 NEW: Fedora-eln-20250415.n.0 = SUMMARY = Added images:0 Dropped images: 0 Added packages: 0 Dropped packages:0 Upgraded packages: 45 Downgraded packages: 0 Size of added packages: 0 B Size of dropped packages:0 B Size of

Re: A few notes upgrading F41 to F42

2025-04-14 Thread Ian Laurie via devel
On 14/4/25 21:14, Fabio Valentini wrote: As I understand it, the migration will happen automatically as soon as it is possible, so you *can't* do it earlier manually. My wrinkle is a bit different. My /usr/local/sbin is a link, but my /usr/sbin still exists even though it contains nothing but

Re: RFC: Lightweight stalled request process

2025-04-14 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Tue, Apr 15 2025 at 01:19:10 AM +02:00:00, Fabio Valentini wrote: The non-responsive maintainer process requires that the maintainer is *entirely unresponsive*, which is a much higher bar than for this proposed, less-consequential process. If the maintainer is not unresponsive, why can't y

Re: RFC: Lightweight stalled request process

2025-04-14 Thread Fabio Valentini
On Tue, Apr 15, 2025 at 12:31 AM Michael Catanzaro wrote: > > > I think the practical effect of the lightweight process will be: new > contributor likely becomes the de facto maintainer of the package, > while bug reports continue to be assigned to the non-responsive main > admin. > > Maybe it's b

RFC: Lightweight stalled request process

2025-04-14 Thread Michel Lind
Dear all, Over the past months FESCo has been considering my proposal to have a lighter weight process to get needed changes for Fedora packages (whether getting a PR merged and built, or a package branched, etc.) - since the alternatives up to now is just pinging a PR or bugzilla issue, or escala

Re: RFC: Lightweight stalled request process

2025-04-14 Thread Michael Catanzaro
I think the practical effect of the lightweight process will be: new contributor likely becomes the de facto maintainer of the package, while bug reports continue to be assigned to the non-responsive main admin. Maybe it's better to just rip the band-aid off and acknowledge that when a main

Re: Switch gnome-software to use a dnf5 plugin in rawhide

2025-04-14 Thread Milan Crha
On Mon, 2025-04-14 at 18:19 +0200, Neal Gompa wrote: > It definitely is. Ah, I see, you are right, the dnf4 has a history entry from the pkcon. Nice. Bye, Milan -- ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe

Re: Switch gnome-software to use a dnf5 plugin in rawhide

2025-04-14 Thread luya
Quick question: why not using dnf5 backend for PackageKit? On 2025-04-14 8:51 a.m., Milan Crha wrote: On Mon, 2025-04-14 at 16:48 +0200, Neal Gompa wrote: > Common history was always a thing. Hi, are you sure? The `pkcon update` is not part of the `dnf4 history`, is it? I cannot imagin

Re: Orphaned libsoup

2025-04-14 Thread Milan Crha
On Mon, 2025-04-14 at 09:07 +0200, Dominic Hopf via devel wrote: > the list of `dnf repoquery --whatrequires=libsoup` Hi, I see I'm dull and did not include the list, even I should. Let me correct it now (see below). Bye, Milan $ dnf repoquery --whatrequires=libsoup Updati

Re: Getting rid of GLEW (migrate to GLAD)

2025-04-14 Thread Marián Konček
Hi, I do not have much experience with other projects, but when I was doing my OpenGL project at uni, I chose libepoxy. It seemed like a very simple, zero-configuration drop-in replacement. I just had to #include its GL headers and link the library. Afaik with GLAD you have to do some build st

Re: Getting rid of GLEW (migrate to GLAD)

2025-04-14 Thread Andreas Schneider
On Monday, 14 April 2025 09:53:30 CEST Marián Konček wrote: > Hi, I do not have much experience with other projects, but when I was > doing my OpenGL project at uni, I chose libepoxy. It seemed like a very > simple, zero-configuration drop-in replacement. I just had to #include > its GL headers and

Re: Switch gnome-software to use a dnf5 plugin in rawhide

2025-04-14 Thread Fabio Valentini
On Mon, Apr 14, 2025 at 6:19 PM Neal Gompa wrote: > > On Mon, Apr 14, 2025 at 11:57 AM Milan Crha wrote: > > > > On Mon, 2025-04-14 at 16:48 +0200, Neal Gompa wrote: > > > Common history was always a thing. > > > > Hi, > > are you sure? The `pkcon update` is not part of the `dnf4 history`

Re: A few notes upgrading F41 to F42

2025-04-14 Thread Tom Hughes via devel
On 14/04/2025 12:18, Marcin Juszkiewicz wrote: I wanted to check it on my local system: $ LC_ALL=C rpm -qf `find /usr/sbin /usr/local/sbin -type f`|sort -u bpftool-7.5.0-2.fc42.x86_64 dnsmasq-2.90-4.fc42.x86_64 file /usr/sbin/avmcapictrl is not owned by any package file /usr/sbin/capiinit is no

Re: Switch gnome-software to use a dnf5 plugin in rawhide

2025-04-14 Thread Neal Gompa
On Mon, Apr 14, 2025 at 12:14 PM wrote: > > Quick question: why not using dnf5 backend for PackageKit? > It doesn't exist yet. I haven't been able to write it because I haven't been able to figure out how to use the DNF5 API. I've asked for some introductory documentation on how to use the C++ AP

splint orphaned

2025-04-14 Thread Raphael Groner
Hi, I'm going to orphan package splint. There are several FTBFS reported and no idea. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2261709 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2341375 Please feel free to step in and take ownership. Regards Raphael --

Re: Switch gnome-software to use a dnf5 plugin in rawhide

2025-04-14 Thread Neal Gompa
On Mon, Apr 14, 2025 at 10:31 AM Vít Ondruch wrote: > > > Dne 14. 04. 25 v 10:02 Milan Crha napsal(a): > > Hi, > > I'd like to switch gnome-software in rawhide to use a dnf5 plugin > > > Does it mean we will finally have common history for DNF5 and G-S? That > would be sweet. > Common histo

Re: Switch gnome-software to use a dnf5 plugin in rawhide

2025-04-14 Thread Milan Crha
On Mon, 2025-04-14 at 16:48 +0200, Neal Gompa wrote: > Common history was always a thing. Hi, are you sure? The `pkcon update` is not part of the `dnf4 history`, is it? I cannot imagine how that could be, but it's a long time I looked on any such thing, thus I could be wrong. Bye,

Re: Switch gnome-software to use a dnf5 plugin in rawhide

2025-04-14 Thread Milan Crha
On Mon, 2025-04-14 at 16:30 +0200, Vít Ondruch wrote: > Does it mean we will finally have common history for DNF5 and G-S? Hi, yes, it means both the history and the cache will be common between the two. No more disk space wasting. Bye, Milan -- _

Re: Switch gnome-software to use a dnf5 plugin in rawhide

2025-04-14 Thread Neal Gompa
On Mon, Apr 14, 2025 at 11:57 AM Milan Crha wrote: > > On Mon, 2025-04-14 at 16:48 +0200, Neal Gompa wrote: > > Common history was always a thing. > > Hi, > are you sure? The `pkcon update` is not part of the `dnf4 history`, is > it? I cannot imagine how that could be, but it's a long time

Getting rid of GLEW (migrate to GLAD)

2025-04-14 Thread Andreas Schneider
Hi, if we want e.g. to build wxWidgets with EGL instead of GLX support, we need to get rid of GLEW. The solution is to use GLAD [2]. GLEW is unmaintained and dead. The replacement is GLAD [2]. In case you're a developer of an application which uses GLEW, migrating to GLAD is pretty straight fo

Re: A few notes upgrading F41 to F42

2025-04-14 Thread W. Michael Petullo
> During the upgrade I've noticed this message output in the console: > /usr/sbin cannot be merged, /usr/sbin/arptables points to > /etc/alternatives/arptables > I assume it's related to > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Unify_bin_and_sbin but I'm not > sure if anything needs to be fixed.

Switch gnome-software to use a dnf5 plugin in rawhide

2025-04-14 Thread Milan Crha
Hi, I'd like to switch gnome-software in rawhide to use a dnf5 plugin, to move away from its dependency on the PackageKit. This had been announced together with the dnf5 change proposal some time ago [1], but due to some missing work on the gnome-software side it had been postponed. As the

Re: A few notes upgrading F41 to F42

2025-04-14 Thread Fabio Valentini
On Mon, Apr 14, 2025 at 6:21 AM Rajeesh K V wrote: > > > During the upgrade I've noticed this message output in the console: > > /usr/sbin cannot be merged, /usr/sbin/arptables points to > > /etc/alternatives/arptables > > I assume it's related to > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Unify_b

Re: Switch gnome-software to use a dnf5 plugin in rawhide

2025-04-14 Thread Vít Ondruch
Dne 14. 04. 25 v 10:02 Milan Crha napsal(a): Hi, I'd like to switch gnome-software in rawhide to use a dnf5 plugin Does it mean we will finally have common history for DNF5 and G-S? That would be sweet. Vít , to move away from its dependency on the PackageKit. This had been ann

Re: A few notes upgrading F41 to F42

2025-04-14 Thread Marcin Juszkiewicz
W dniu 14.04.2025 o 10:29, Michael J Gruber pisze: A simpler check is `find /usr/sbin /usr/local/sbin -type f` which shows you everything that isnot symlinked already. `ls -l /usr/local/sbin` shows me that it is a directory symlink already, whereas `ls -l /usr/sbin` shows me many symlinks plus t

Re: A few notes upgrading F41 to F42

2025-04-14 Thread Dominique Martinet
Marcin Juszkiewicz wrote on Mon, Apr 14, 2025 at 01:18:52PM +0200: > I wonder where from all those "not owned by any package" files came from. > This system is about 12 years old (was Fedora 19 at start). I have a similar list of files in there, just looked at one at random: > file /usr/sbin/capsh

Re: cleaning up our nomenclature

2025-04-14 Thread Peter Robinson
On Fri, 11 Apr 2025 at 12:54, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > Hi folks, > > A few years ago we had the initalitive to get rid of problematic terms > like "master"/"slave". Git changed its default branch name to 'main', > we changed our default dist-git name to 'rawhide' (*). We also > adjust

Re: A few notes upgrading F41 to F42

2025-04-14 Thread Michael J Gruber
Rajeesh K V venit, vidit, dixit 2025-04-14 06:19:33: > > During the upgrade I've noticed this message output in the console: > > /usr/sbin cannot be merged, /usr/sbin/arptables points to > > /etc/alternatives/arptables > > I assume it's related to > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Unify_bi

Re: RFC: Lightweight stalled request process

2025-04-14 Thread Simon de Vlieger
On Mon, Apr 14, 2025, at 11:56 PM, Michel Lind wrote: > Dear all, > > Over the past months FESCo has been considering my proposal to have a > lighter weight process to get needed changes for Fedora packages > (whether getting a PR merged and built, or a package branched, etc.) - > since the alterna

Re: GDM dropped support for running X11 sessions in F42 without a Change?

2025-04-14 Thread Frantisek Zatloukal
I've opened a PR which restores gdm/X11 support at: https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/gdm/pull-request/28# It builds, I'll be able to test it in a few hours, but anybody is free and welcome to give it a try once the scratch build finishes. On Mon, Apr 14, 2025 at 10:22 PM Dominik 'Rathann' Mierz