Re: Fedora EPEL - sequoia-sq package and "cli breakages"

2025-01-13 Thread David Sommerseth via devel
On 13/01/2025 12:22, Fabio Valentini wrote: This isn't new since December 2024, the sq CLI was*never* stable, and basically every 0.x -> 0.(x+1) release broke some part of the command-line API. The upstream project made it quite explicit that the CLI would only be stable going forward after the 1

Re: Fedora EPEL - sequoia-sq package and "cli breakages"

2025-01-13 Thread David Sommerseth via devel
On 13/01/2025 11:52, Clemens Lang wrote: I don’t think EPEL can reasonably add stability guarantees that > upstream does not provide except by pinning a package at an old > version, but that would mean that EPEL would essentially package > unsupported software. That's been the practice so far,

Re: Unresponsive packager: pvoborni

2025-01-13 Thread Alexander Bokovoy
On Пан, 13 сту 2025, Pierre-Yves Chibon wrote: On Mon, Jan 13, 2025 at 11:41:07AM +0200, Alexander Bokovoy wrote: On Пан, 13 сту 2025, Pierre-Yves Chibon wrote: > Good Morning Everyone, > > We have been emailing daily the following user to notify that the email they > have set in FAS does not co

Re: AVX but not AVX2: F42 Change Proposal: Optimized Binaries for the AMD64 / x86_64

2025-01-13 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Mon, Jan 13, 2025 at 10:48:42AM +, Daniel P. Berrangé wrote: > On Fri, Jan 10, 2025 at 01:45:44PM -0800, John Reiser wrote: > > > A vendor-independent x86-64 psABI > > > supplement defines four "microachitecture levels": `x86-64-v1` (the > > > baseline, our code targets this), `x86-64-v2` (+

Re: F42 Change Proposal: Optimized Binaries for the AMD64 / x86_64 Architecture (v2) (self-contained)

2025-01-13 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Mon, Jan 13, 2025 at 12:10:44PM +0100, Jakub Jelinek wrote: > On Mon, Jan 13, 2025 at 09:11:35AM +, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > > First, this would require setting up the infrastructure to build and > > store and distribute multiple builds of a single version of a > > package. This

Re: F42 Change Proposal: Optimized Binaries for the AMD64 / x86_64 Architecture (v2) (self-contained)

2025-01-13 Thread David Bold
Vitaly Zaitsev wrote: > > Benchmarks indicate 100–1000 μs. > > 1 second? I think it's too much. No, 0.1 to 1 ms or 0.0001 to 0.001 seconds -- ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedora

Re: F42 Change Proposal: Optimized Binaries for the AMD64 / x86_64 Architecture (v2) (self-contained)

2025-01-13 Thread Daniel P . Berrangé
On Sun, Jan 12, 2025 at 12:08:20PM +0100, drago01 wrote: > On Sunday, January 12, 2025, Vitaly Zaitsev via devel < > devel@lists.fedoraproject.org> wrote: > > > On 10/01/2025 20:28, Aoife Moloney via devel-announce wrote: > > > >> Individual packages can provide already optimized libraries via the

Re: Need assistance to build Blender

2025-01-13 Thread Michael J Gruber
Luya Tshimbalanga venit, vidit, dixit 2025-01-12 22:30:03: > > On 2025-01-12 10:58, Sérgio Basto wrote: > > On Sun, 2025-01-12 at 10:15 -0800, Luya Tshimbalanga wrote: > >> > >> Hello team, > >> > >> Blender failed to build due to an issue related to Python rules > >> changes and an addition

Unresponsive packager: pvoborni

2025-01-13 Thread Pierre-Yves Chibon
Good Morning Everyone, We have been emailing daily the following user to notify that the email they have set in FAS does not correspond to a valid bugzilla account. This is a requirement for Fedora packagers. Does someone know how to contact them? pvoborni - emailed since November 19th pvoborni

Re: F42 Change Proposal: Optimized Binaries for the AMD64 / x86_64 Architecture (v2) (self-contained)

2025-01-13 Thread Vitaly Zaitsev via devel
On 12/01/2025 20:36, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: I think any massive use of this scheme is unlikely. Note that we'd want to this only for packages where the optimized code yields noticeable benefits. There just aren't that many packages which do significant number crunching_and_ don't alre

Re: zswap: should we use zsmalloc as default allocator?

2025-01-13 Thread Vitaly Zaitsev via devel
On 13/01/2025 01:39, Chris Murphy wrote: Reported compression ratio is 4.22. Documentation says zbud compression ratio is fixed at 2:1. From my laptop using the default zswap-cli.conf: Pool: 363.71 MiB (3.1% of MemTotal). Stored: 727.34 MiB (78.9% of SwapUsed). Compression ratio: 2.00. Previ

Fedora rawhide compose report: 20250113.n.0 changes

2025-01-13 Thread Fedora Rawhide Report
OLD: Fedora-Rawhide-20250112.n.0 NEW: Fedora-Rawhide-20250113.n.0 = SUMMARY = Added images:1 Dropped images: 2 Added packages: 4 Dropped packages:1 Upgraded packages: 77 Downgraded packages: 0 Size of added packages: 32.30 MiB Size of dropped packages

Re: F42 Change Proposal: Optimized Binaries for the AMD64 / x86_64 Architecture (v2) (self-contained)

2025-01-13 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Mon, Jan 13, 2025 at 09:18:46AM +0100, Vitaly Zaitsev via devel wrote: > On 12/01/2025 20:36, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > > I think any massive use of this scheme is unlikely. Note that we'd > > want to this only for packages where the optimized code yields > > noticeable benefits. Ther

Re: Need assistance to build Blender

2025-01-13 Thread Luya Tshimbalanga
Whoops, here is, https://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=127824831 On 2025-01-13 00:17, Michael J Gruber wrote: Luya Tshimbalanga venit, vidit, dixit 2025-01-12 22:30:03: On 2025-01-12 10:58, Sérgio Basto wrote: On Sun, 2025-01-12 at 10:15 -0800, Luya Tshimbalanga wrote: Hell

Re: GCC 15 for Fedora 42 in a side-tag

2025-01-13 Thread Björn Persson
Björn Persson wrote: > Jakub Jelinek wrote: > > And, if there are packages which need to be > > rebuilt against GCC 15 before the mass rebuild (like packages using Ada), > > feel free to build them into the side-tag. > > I'll start on the Ada packages. That didn't get far. There seems to be a r

Fedora 42 Mass Rebuild Notification - Scheduled for 2025-01-15

2025-01-13 Thread Samyak Jain
Hi all, Per the Fedora Linux 42 schedule [1], we will start a mass rebuild for Fedora 42 on 2025-01-15. We will be conducting this mass rebuild for the changes listed in: https://pagure.io/releng/issues?status=Open&tags=mass+rebuild; We have a tracker at releng for the same, in case of any querie

Re: Fedora 42 Mass Rebuild Notification - Scheduled for 2025-01-15

2025-01-13 Thread Alexander Ploumistos
Hello, I've been meaning to ask this since the F41 rebuild, but it slipped my mind. On Mon, Jan 13, 2025 at 11:28 PM Samyak Jain wrote: > > Just so you know, if you need to exclude any packages from the > rebuild, you can use the PKG_SKIP_LIST or add a noautobuild file to > the root of your dis

Self Introduction: Jeremy Williams

2025-01-13 Thread Jeremy
Good Evening. I hope this email finds you all well. I've been lurking for a bit but haven't developed the nerve for an introduction until now. By trade I've been a Linux/Unix Admin with a background in the US Navy, doing work trying to bring things into the modern age. Recently, I've taken on more

Re: Unresponsive packager: pvoborni

2025-01-13 Thread Alexander Bokovoy
On Пан, 13 сту 2025, Pierre-Yves Chibon wrote: Good Morning Everyone, We have been emailing daily the following user to notify that the email they have set in FAS does not correspond to a valid bugzilla account. This is a requirement for Fedora packagers. Does someone know how to contact them?

Re: Fedora EPEL - sequoia-sq package and "cli breakages"

2025-01-13 Thread Clemens Lang
Hi David, > On 13. Jan 2025, at 11:38, David Sommerseth via devel > wrote: > > > Has something changed in the Fedora EPEL packaging policy in regards to > package stability? Just for the record: I’m explicitly not answering this question. I’m also not the maintainer for sequoia-sq. > Sinc

Re: F42 Change Proposal: Optimized Binaries for the AMD64 / x86_64 Architecture (v2) (self-contained)

2025-01-13 Thread Petr Pisar
V Fri, Jan 10, 2025 at 07:28:19PM +, Aoife Moloney via devel-announce napsal(a): > Optimized variants of programs and libraries MAY be packaged in a > separate subpackage. The general packaging rules should be applied, > i.e. a separate package or packages SHOULD be created if it is files > ar

Re: bin-sbin merge rebuild

2025-01-13 Thread Florian Weimer
* Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek: > On Fri, Jan 10, 2025 at 10:13:31AM +, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: >> On Fri, Jan 10, 2025 at 08:58:32AM +0100, Florian Weimer wrote: >> > * Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek: >> > >> > > glibc >> > >> > If we rebuild glibc, should we do a second rebuild into

Re: F42 Change Proposal: Optimized Binaries for the AMD64 / x86_64 Architecture (v2) (self-contained)

2025-01-13 Thread Petr Pisar
V Sun, Jan 12, 2025 at 07:08:05PM -0500, Neal Gompa napsal(a): > On Sun, Jan 12, 2025 at 4:36 PM Chris Adams wrote: > > > > Once upon a time, Neal Gompa said: > > > For stuff installed into /usr, we > > > should just allow packages to be optionally built with the higher > > > microarchitecture le

Re: F42 Change Proposal: Optimized Binaries for the AMD64 / x86_64 Architecture (v2) (self-contained)

2025-01-13 Thread Daniel P . Berrangé
On Fri, Jan 10, 2025 at 07:28:19PM +, Aoife Moloney via devel-announce wrote: > == Summary == > Individual packages can provide already optimized libraries via the > glibc-hwcaps mechanism. This approach will be extended to executables. > The package provides an optimized variant of a binary i

Re: F42 Change Proposal: Optimized Binaries for the AMD64 / x86_64 Architecture (v2) (self-contained)

2025-01-13 Thread Panu Matilainen
On 1/13/25 1:06 PM, Petr Pisar wrote: V Sun, Jan 12, 2025 at 07:08:05PM -0500, Neal Gompa napsal(a): On Sun, Jan 12, 2025 at 4:36 PM Chris Adams wrote: Once upon a time, Neal Gompa said: For stuff installed into /usr, we should just allow packages to be optionally built with the higher micr

Re: F42 Change Proposal: Optimized Binaries for the AMD64 / x86_64 Architecture (v2) (self-contained)

2025-01-13 Thread Jakub Jelinek
On Mon, Jan 13, 2025 at 09:11:35AM +, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > First, this would require setting up the infrastructure to build and > store and distribute multiple builds of a single version of a > package. This is something that Fedora currently doesn't do, so it'd > require change

Re: Unresponsive packager: pvoborni

2025-01-13 Thread Pierre-Yves Chibon
On Mon, Jan 13, 2025 at 11:41:07AM +0200, Alexander Bokovoy wrote: > On Пан, 13 сту 2025, Pierre-Yves Chibon wrote: > > Good Morning Everyone, > > > > We have been emailing daily the following user to notify that the email they > > have set in FAS does not correspond to a valid bugzilla account. >

Re: F42 Change Proposal: Optimized Binaries for the AMD64 / x86_64 Architecture (v2) (self-contained)

2025-01-13 Thread Jakub Jelinek
On Mon, Jan 13, 2025 at 12:10:45PM +0100, Jakub Jelinek wrote: > > Third, this choice would be "permanent", i.e. it would be done once at > > package installation time. If the user tries to boot the same image > > on different hardware, it might fail. This is inferior to the proposed > > approach w

Re: F42 Change Proposal: Optimized Binaries for the AMD64 / x86_64 Architecture (v2) (self-contained)

2025-01-13 Thread Daniel P . Berrangé
On Sun, Jan 12, 2025 at 07:08:05PM -0500, Neal Gompa wrote: > On Sun, Jan 12, 2025 at 4:36 PM Chris Adams wrote: > > > > Once upon a time, Neal Gompa said: > > > For stuff installed into /usr, we > > > should just allow packages to be optionally built with the higher > > > microarchitecture level

Fedora EPEL - sequoia-sq package and "cli breakages"

2025-01-13 Thread David Sommerseth via devel
Hi, Has something changed in the Fedora EPEL packaging policy in regards to package stability? Since the updates which has arrived since early December 2024, the updates to sequoia-sq has twice broken my automated scripts. The first update which broke my scripts changed --recipient-file to

Re: Fedora EPEL - sequoia-sq package and "cli breakages"

2025-01-13 Thread Fabio Valentini
On Mon, Jan 13, 2025 at 11:53 AM Clemens Lang wrote: > > Hi David, > > > On 13. Jan 2025, at 11:38, David Sommerseth via devel > > wrote: > > > > > > Has something changed in the Fedora EPEL packaging policy in regards to > > package stability? > > Just for the record: I’m explicitly not answer

Re: F42 Change Proposal: RPM Support For Systemd Sysusers.d (system-wide)

2025-01-13 Thread Panu Matilainen
On 1/10/25 5:20 PM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: On Thu, Jan 02, 2025 at 01:08:38PM -0500, Steve Grubb wrote: * Verify that audit events exist for user and group creation: ausearch --start recent -i -m 'ADD_USER,USER_MGMT,USER_CHAUTHTOK,ROLE_ASSIGN,ROLE_REMOVE,DEL_USER,ADD_GROUP,GRP

Re: bin-sbin merge rebuild

2025-01-13 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Fri, Jan 10, 2025 at 10:13:31AM +, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > On Fri, Jan 10, 2025 at 08:58:32AM +0100, Florian Weimer wrote: > > * Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek: > > > > > glibc > > > > If we rebuild glibc, should we do a second rebuild into your side tag? > > Probably… But let's

Re: Fedora EPEL - sequoia-sq package and "cli breakages"

2025-01-13 Thread Fabio Valentini
On Mon, Jan 13, 2025 at 12:37 PM David Sommerseth wrote: > > On 13/01/2025 12:22, Fabio Valentini wrote: > > This isn't new since December 2024, the sq CLI was*never* stable, and > > basically every 0.x -> 0.(x+1) release broke some part of the > > command-line API. The upstream project made it qu

GCC 15 for Fedora 42 in a side-tag

2025-01-13 Thread Jakub Jelinek
Hi! With the Fedora 42 mass rebuild approaching, I've built gcc 15 snapshot (and annobin/libtool) in the f42-build-side-103300 side-tag. Feel free to do scratch builds against this side-tag if you want to test whether something builds fine with GCC 15 (David Malcolm has performed a mass prebuil

Re: AVX but not AVX2: F42 Change Proposal: Optimized Binaries for the AMD64 / x86_64

2025-01-13 Thread Daniel P . Berrangé
On Fri, Jan 10, 2025 at 01:45:44PM -0800, John Reiser wrote: > > A vendor-independent x86-64 psABI > > supplement defines four "microachitecture levels": `x86-64-v1` (the > > baseline, our code targets this), `x86-64-v2` (+`SSE3`, CentoOS > > targets this), `x86-64-v3` (+`AVX`), `x86-64-v4` (+`AVX5

Re: F42 Change Proposal: RPM Support For Systemd Sysusers.d (system-wide)

2025-01-13 Thread Iker Pedrosa
On Mon, Jan 13, 2025 at 12:24 PM Panu Matilainen wrote: > On 1/10/25 5:20 PM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > > On Thu, Jan 02, 2025 at 01:08:38PM -0500, Steve Grubb wrote: > >> * Verify that audit events exist for user and group creation: > >> ausearch --start recent -i -m > >> > 'AD

libgit2 1.9.x in rawhide with a compat package for 1.8.x

2025-01-13 Thread Pete Walter
I just bumped libgit2 to 1.9.x in rawhide and added a compat package for the old 1.8.x ABI. This should allow seamless switchover to the new ABI without breaking anything that needs 1.8.x. https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2025-44cb6d8bfe If anyone needs 1.9.x for F41 or F40 please let

Non-responsive maintainer sham1

2025-01-13 Thread Hong Xu
This email follows week 0.step 3 in the nonresponsive maintainer page: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/fesco/Policy_for_nonresponsive_package_maintainers/ If anyone knows how to contact sham1, please let me know. I've sent an email to his/her personal email but haven't got a response. The

Re: Non-responsive maintainer sham1

2025-01-13 Thread Hong Xu
(CC sham1) -- Hong -- ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: h

Re: Fedora 42 Mass Rebuild Notification - Scheduled for 2025-01-15

2025-01-13 Thread Jednorozec
On Tuesday, January 14th, 2025 at 00:50, Alexander Ploumistos wrote: > > > Hello, > > I've been meaning to ask this since the F41 rebuild, but it slipped my mind. > > > On Mon, Jan 13, 2025 at 11:28 PM Samyak Jain samyak.j...@gmail.com wrote: > > > Just so you know, if you need

Re: GCC 15 for Fedora 42 in a side-tag

2025-01-13 Thread Björn Persson
Jakub Jelinek wrote: > And, if there are packages which need to be > rebuilt against GCC 15 before the mass rebuild (like packages using Ada), > feel free to build them into the side-tag. I'll start on the Ada packages. Some of them may have to wait until tomorrow. Björn Persson pgp9uqtR5SEyp.p

Re: Forming a lightweight SIG around MkDocs

2025-01-13 Thread Davide Cavalca
On 2024-12-18 09:17, Michel Lind wrote: For completeness, this is the infra request https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/issue/12337 To circle back on this, the SIG has now been created and I've started adding the relevant packages to it. I've also sponsored the folks that had expressed i

Schedule for Tuesday's FESCo Meeting (2025-01-14)

2025-01-13 Thread Stephen Gallagher
Following is the list of topics that will be discussed in the FESCo meeting Tuesday at 17:00 UTC in #meeting:fedoraproject.org on Matrix. To convert UTC to your local time, take a look at http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/UTCHowto or run: date -d '2025-01-14 17:00 UTC' Links to all issues to be