Re: Finalizing Fedora's Switch to Python 3

On 27.7.2017 19:15, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: Do you think it'd be possible to script the python-foo to python2-foo renaming? May be possible but given the variety in the spec files, we didn't think it would be easy. IMHO taking a bunch of provenpackagers and updating the packages ma

Re: Finalizing Fedora's Switch to Python 3

On 28 July 2017 at 03:15, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > Do you think it'd be possible to script the python-foo to python2-foo > renaming? If yes, then maybe it'd make sense to just get some pps to > do it in rawhide now and get the "easy" part done with? That should > significantly cut down

Re: Coming soon: Pagure service for dist-git

On Thu, Jul 27, 2017 at 10:50:13AM +0200, Pierre-Yves Chibon wrote: > On Thu, Jul 27, 2017 at 10:36:29AM +0200, Vít Ondruch wrote: > > Dne 27.7.2017 v 10:05 Pierre-Yves Chibon napsal(a): > > >> 2) The "contributors" list does not appear to be correct. Looking at > > >> "ruby", there is listed "tago

Re: F27 Self Contained Change: Samba AD

Il giorno gio, 27/07/2017 alle 15.16 +0200, Dario Lesca ha scritto: > > But the folder is not accessible from bind user: > # ll -ld /var/lib/samba/private/ > drwx--. 6 root root 4096 27 lug 13.46 /var/lib/samba/private/ > > then I have change it with: > # chmod g+rx /var/lib/samba/private/ >

Re: Coming soon: Pagure service for dist-git

Dne 28.7.2017 v 10:11 Pierre-Yves Chibon napsal(a): > > As far as I can see this is looking all good but you know the more eyes the > better :) https://src.stg.fedoraproject.org/pagure/group/ruby-packagers-sig releng is ruby-packagers-sig group member? How so? https://admin.fedoraproject.org/a

Re: Finalizing Fedora's Switch to Python 3

On Fri, Jul 28, 2017 at 09:49:42AM +0200, Miro Hrončok wrote: > On 27.7.2017 19:15, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > >Do you think it'd be possible to script the python-foo to python2-foo > >renaming? > > May be possible but given the variety in the spec files, we didn't > think it would be ea

Re: Coming soon: Pagure service for dist-git

On Fri, Jul 28, 2017 at 11:01:35AM +0200, Vít Ondruch wrote: > > > Dne 28.7.2017 v 10:11 Pierre-Yves Chibon napsal(a): > > > > As far as I can see this is looking all good but you know the more eyes the > > better :) > > https://src.stg.fedoraproject.org/pagure/group/ruby-packagers-sig > > rele

Re: Finalizing Fedora's Switch to Python 3

On Thu, Jul 27, 2017, at 12:07 PM, Miro Hrončok wrote: > * Switch /usr/bin/python to Python 3 in cooperation with Python upstream. That again? That really seems like a nonstarter; previous discussion specifically around Atomic Host + Ansible: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel

Re: Mass rebuild failures only on ppc64le: glibc problem?

On 2017-07-27 10:15, Antonio Trande wrote: On 07/27/2017 01:21 AM, Jason L Tibbitts III wrote: I noticed one of my packages failed to build because the test suite failed, but only on ppc64le. builddir/build/BUILD/cyrus-imapd-3.0.2/cunit/.libs/lt-unit: error while loading shared libraries: /bu

Recompiling/relinking dependent applications/libraries on DSO change

binutils 2.29 introduced an optimization which requires that in the general case, applications and libraries linking against a DSO will have to be rebuilt when the DSO change the implementation of functions (i.e., changes to a function body can change ABI). This is how many native programming lang

Re: Finalizing Fedora's Switch to Python 3

On Fri, Jul 28, 2017 at 11:48 AM, Colin Walters wrote: > On Thu, Jul 27, 2017, at 12:07 PM, Miro Hrončok wrote: > >> * Switch /usr/bin/python to Python 3 in cooperation with Python upstream. > > That again? That really seems like a nonstarter; previous > discussion specifically around Atomic Ho

Re: Recompiling/relinking dependent applications/libraries on DSO change

Hi Florian, On Fri, 2017-07-28 at 13:39 +0200, Florian Weimer wrote: > binutils 2.29 introduced an optimization which requires that in the > general case, applications and libraries linking against a DSO will have > to be rebuilt when the DSO change the implementation of functions (i.e., > changes

Re: Finalizing Fedora's Switch to Python 3

On Fri, Jul 28, 2017, at 12:48 PM, Colin Walters wrote: > On Thu, Jul 27, 2017, at 12:07 PM, Miro Hrončok wrote: > > > * Switch /usr/bin/python to Python 3 in cooperation with Python upstream. > > That again? That really seems like a nonstarter; previous > discussion specifically around Atomic

Re: Finalizing Fedora's Switch to Python 3

On 28 July 2017 at 20:48, Colin Walters wrote: > On Thu, Jul 27, 2017, at 12:07 PM, Miro Hrončok wrote: > >> * Switch /usr/bin/python to Python 3 in cooperation with Python upstream. > > That again? That really seems like a nonstarter; previous > discussion specifically around Atomic Host + Ans

Re: Recompiling/relinking dependent applications/libraries on DSO change

On Fri, Jul 28, 2017 at 01:39:50PM +0200, Florian Weimer wrote: > binutils 2.29 introduced an optimization which requires that in the > general case, applications and libraries linking against a DSO will have > to be rebuilt when the DSO change the implementation of functions (i.e., > changes to a

Re: Recompiling/relinking dependent applications/libraries on DSO change

On 07/28/2017 02:22 PM, Mark Wielaard wrote: > Hi Florian, > > On Fri, 2017-07-28 at 13:39 +0200, Florian Weimer wrote: >> binutils 2.29 introduced an optimization which requires that in the >> general case, applications and libraries linking against a DSO will have >> to be rebuilt when the DSO c

Re: Recompiling/relinking dependent applications/libraries on DSO change

On Fri, Jul 28, 2017 at 03:06:29PM +0200, Florian Weimer wrote: > On 07/28/2017 02:22 PM, Mark Wielaard wrote: > > On Fri, 2017-07-28 at 13:39 +0200, Florian Weimer wrote: > >> binutils 2.29 introduced an optimization which requires that in the > >> general case, applications and libraries linking

Re: Recompiling/relinking dependent applications/libraries on DSO change

On Fri, Jul 28, 2017 at 03:20:49PM +0200, Jakub Jelinek wrote: > > Conceptually, this optimization inlines aspects of the called function > > into the caller, across DSO boundaries. In particular, as implemented > > now on ppc64le, the net effect is that the ABI changes if you add a > > global var

Re: Recompiling/relinking dependent applications/libraries on DSO change

On 07/28/2017 03:20 PM, Jakub Jelinek wrote: > I think it is seriously flawed optimization that should be at least turned > off by default. If people are willing to do this mess on ppc64le for some > libraries, they should request it explicitly, but we certainly shouldn't > make the implementation

Re: Finalizing Fedora's Switch to Python 3

On 07/28/2017 11:01 AM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > So instead of taking this slowly, I'd rather go through FESCo > and public announcement on fedora-devel, and then just apply the change > to as many packages as possible at once. I concur. I think this is one of the cases where we should

Re: Finalizing Fedora's Switch to Python 3

On 28 July 2017 at 22:29, Brian Exelbierd wrote: > On Fri, Jul 28, 2017, at 12:48 PM, Colin Walters wrote: >> Plus just breaking everyone's random old scripts. Now, I >> don't know if this has been discussed upstream > > This is a statement born of ignorance, but ... > > Would it be possible to s

Re: Finalizing Fedora's Switch to Python 3

On Fri, Jul 28, 2017, at 07:47 AM, Peter Robinson wrote: > On Fri, Jul 28, 2017 at 11:48 AM, Colin Walters wrote: > > On Thu, Jul 27, 2017, at 12:07 PM, Miro Hrončok wrote: > > > >> * Switch /usr/bin/python to Python 3 in cooperation with Python upstream. > > > > That again? That really seems

Re: ImageMagick Unresponsive Maintainer process - hubbitus (Pavel Alexeev)

On 07/27/2017 09:29 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote: ok. I have pushed 6.9.9-3 to rawhide. Hopefully I got all the CVE's right in the changelog. If someone wants to check over and make sure I didn't miss any that were fixed in the 6.x branch that would be great. I'd like to let it run a few days in rawhi

Schedule for Friday's FESCo Meeting (2017-07-28)

Following is the list of topics that will be discussed in the FESCo meeting Friday at 16:00UTC in #fedora-meeting on irc.freenode.net. To convert UTC to your local time, take a look at http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/UTCHowto or run: date -d '2017-07-28 16:00 UTC' Links to all issues below ca

Re: Finalizing Fedora's Switch to Python 3

I made this comment previously but because I think it's important I'm going to repeat it. Fedora's Python version migration needs to be coordinated with RHEL. Yes I know Fedora is independent of both Red Hat and RHEL but the real world reality is spec files are shared between both. At the mome

Re: Schedule for Friday's FESCo Meeting (2017-07-28)

On Fri, Jul 28, 2017 at 10:21 AM, Jared K. Smith wrote: > Following is the list of topics that will be discussed in the > FESCo meeting Friday at 16:00UTC in #fedora-meeting on > irc.freenode.net. > > There was one additional late-breaking ticket that will also be discussed: #topic #1751 - Reque

Re: Finalizing Fedora's Switch to Python 3

On 29 July 2017 at 00:25, John Dennis wrote: > I made this comment previously but because I think it's important I'm going > to repeat it. > > Fedora's Python version migration needs to be coordinated with RHEL. > > Yes I know Fedora is independent of both Red Hat and RHEL but the real world > rea

Re: Finalizing Fedora's Switch to Python 3

On 28.7.2017 09:51, Nick Coghlan wrote: On 28 July 2017 at 03:15, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: Do you think it'd be possible to script the python-foo to python2-foo renaming? If yes, then maybe it'd make sense to just get some pps to do it in rawhide now and get the "easy" part done with?

Re: Finalizing Fedora's Switch to Python 3

On 28.7.2017 12:01, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: On Fri, Jul 28, 2017 at 09:49:42AM +0200, Miro Hrončok wrote: On 27.7.2017 19:15, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: Do you think it'd be possible to script the python-foo to python2-foo renaming? May be possible but given the variety in

Re: Finalizing Fedora's Switch to Python 3

On 28.7.2017 12:48, Colin Walters wrote: On Thu, Jul 27, 2017, at 12:07 PM, Miro Hrončok wrote: * Switch /usr/bin/python to Python 3 in cooperation with Python upstream. That again? Seems like a never ending story, right? :( > That really seems like a nonstarter; previous> discussion

Re: Finalizing Fedora's Switch to Python 3

On 28.7.2017 14:29, Brian Exelbierd wrote: On Fri, Jul 28, 2017, at 12:48 PM, Colin Walters wrote: On Thu, Jul 27, 2017, at 12:07 PM, Miro Hrončok wrote: * Switch /usr/bin/python to Python 3 in cooperation with Python upstream. That again? That really seems like a nonstarter; previous di

Re: Finalizing Fedora's Switch to Python 3

On 28.7.2017 16:17, Colin Walters wrote: On Fri, Jul 28, 2017, at 07:47 AM, Peter Robinson wrote: On Fri, Jul 28, 2017 at 11:48 AM, Colin Walters wrote: On Thu, Jul 27, 2017, at 12:07 PM, Miro Hrončok wrote: * Switch /usr/bin/python to Python 3 in cooperation with Python upstream. Tha

Re: Finalizing Fedora's Switch to Python 3

On 28.7.2017 16:25, John Dennis wrote: I made this comment previously but because I think it's important I'm going to repeat it. Yes, we hear you. Fedora's Python version migration needs to be coordinated with RHEL. It is. However it is hard to coordinate a future change with RHEL7 that is

Re: Finalizing Fedora's Switch to Python 3

On Fri, Jul 28, 2017, at 11:34 AM, Miro Hrončok wrote: > The change has to > start somewhere and even though I cannot really speak about RHEL, > I would think that changing it in Fedora first makes more sense. There hasn't been a single "Fedora" since we landed the editions, although that's som

Re: Finalizing Fedora's Switch to Python 3

On 28.7.2017 17:51, Colin Walters wrote: On Fri, Jul 28, 2017, at 11:34 AM, Miro Hrončok wrote: The change has to start somewhere and even though I cannot really speak about RHEL, I would think that changing it in Fedora first makes more sense. There hasn't been a single "Fedora" since we la

Re: Finalizing Fedora's Switch to Python 3

On 28 July 2017 at 08:29, Nick Coghlan wrote: > On 28 July 2017 at 20:48, Colin Walters wrote: > > On Thu, Jul 27, 2017, at 12:07 PM, Miro Hrončok wrote: > > > >> * Switch /usr/bin/python to Python 3 in cooperation with Python > upstream. > > > > That again? That really seems like a nonstarte

Re: Finalizing Fedora's Switch to Python 3

On 28 July 2017 at 11:42, Miro Hrončok wrote: > On 28.7.2017 16:25, John Dennis wrote: > >> I made this comment previously but because I think it's important I'm >> going to repeat it. >> > > Yes, we hear you. > > Fedora's Python version migration needs to be coordinated with RHEL. >> > > It is.

Re: Finalizing Fedora's Switch to Python 3

On Fri, Jul 28, 2017, at 12:16 PM, Miro Hrončok wrote: > It's up to the maintainers of Atomic Host to decide what's there. I > don't see how that relates to this thread. We have never said anything > about what is supposed to be or not to be in the Atomic Host. I'm opposed to switching the mean

ppc64le build failure, does it look familiar?

More ceph-12.1.1 This has built successfully previously, including the recent mass rebuild. Today the other associated builds have either finished or passed this point, but on the ppc64le build today I got this: ... Executing command: ['bash', '--login', '-c', '/usr/bin/rpmbuild -bb --target ppc

Re: ppc64le build failure, does it look familiar?

On Fri, Jul 28, 2017 at 01:06:18PM -0400, Kaleb S. KEITHLEY wrote: > > /lib64/librt.so.1: expected localentry:0 `pthread_attr_setdetachstate' See the thread “Mass rebuild failures only on ppc64le: glibc problem?” by Tibbs. > Look familiar to anyone? -- Tomasz Torcz "Never u

Summary/Minutes from today's FESCo Meeting (2017-07-28)

We had a short meeting today because we lost quorum part-way through the meeting. === #fedora-meeting: FESCO (2017-07-28) === Meeting started by jsmith at 16:01:24 UTC. The full logs are available athttps://meetbot.fedoraproject.or

Re: ppc64le build failure, does it look familiar?

Yes, https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1475636 On 07/28/2017 07:06 PM, Kaleb S. KEITHLEY wrote: > > More ceph-12.1.1 > > This has built successfully previously, including the recent mass > rebuild. Today the other associated builds have either finished or > passed this point, but on th

Re: Finalizing Fedora's Switch to Python 3

On Fri, 2017-07-28 at 12:41 -0400, Colin Walters wrote: > I'm opposed to switching the meaning of `/usr/bin/python` for AH > anytime soon.  It's just going to break stuff, and to me the gain is > quite > low. One of Fedora's stated goals is to remain close to the upstream. Upstream Python is going

Re: Finalizing Fedora's Switch to Python 3

On 28.7.2017 18:41, Colin Walters wrote: On Fri, Jul 28, 2017, at 12:16 PM, Miro Hrončok wrote: It's up to the maintainers of Atomic Host to decide what's there. I don't see how that relates to this thread. We have never said anything about what is supposed to be or not to be in the Atomic Host

Re: Finalizing Fedora's Switch to Python 3

On 28.7.2017 18:38, Stephen John Smoogen wrote: On 28 July 2017 at 11:42, Miro Hrončok > wrote: On 28.7.2017 16:25, John Dennis wrote: I made this comment previously but because I think it's important I'm going to repeat it. Yes, we hear

Re: Finalizing Fedora's Switch to Python 3

On Fri, Jul 28, 2017, at 01:53 PM, Randy Barlow wrote: > On Fri, 2017-07-28 at 12:41 -0400, Colin Walters wrote: > > I'm opposed to switching the meaning of `/usr/bin/python` for AH > > anytime soon.  It's just going to break stuff, and to me the gain is > > quite > > low. > > One of Fedora's st

Re: Finalizing Fedora's Switch to Python 3

On 28.7.2017 20:11, Colin Walters wrote: On Fri, Jul 28, 2017, at 01:53 PM, Randy Barlow wrote: On Fri, 2017-07-28 at 12:41 -0400, Colin Walters wrote: I'm opposed to switching the meaning of `/usr/bin/python` for AH anytime soon. It's just going to break stuff, and to me the gain is quite l

Re: Recompiling/relinking dependent applications/libraries on DSO change

On Fri, Jul 28, 2017 at 01:39:50PM +0200, Florian Weimer wrote: > binutils 2.29 introduced an optimization which requires that in the > general case, applications and libraries linking against a DSO will have > to be rebuilt when the DSO change the implementation of functions (i.e., > changes to a

Re: Finalizing Fedora's Switch to Python 3

On Fri, Jul 28, 2017 at 10:29:12PM +1000, Nick Coghlan wrote: > It's only /usr/bin/python itself that still presents an unsolved > problem, since the status quo (not providing it at all) is even more > user hostile than pointing it at a modern version of Python 3 that Why is not providing /usr/bi

Re: Finalizing Fedora's Switch to Python 3

On Fri, 2017-07-28 at 14:11 -0400, Colin Walters wrote: > First, I don't see a need for even mild pejoratives; instead of > "normal" you could say > for example "other editions". My apologies - I was just struggling with terminology. No offense intended. signature.asc Description: This is a digit

Re: ImageMagick Unresponsive Maintainer process - hubbitus (Pavel Alexeev)

Am 28.07.2017 um 16:20 schrieb Michael Cronenworth: On 07/27/2017 09:29 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote: ok. I have pushed 6.9.9-3 to rawhide. Hopefully I got all the CVE's right in the changelog. If someone wants to check over and make sure I didn't miss any that were fixed in the 6.x branch that would

Re: Finalizing Fedora's Switch to Python 3

On Fri, Jul 28, 2017 at 05:51:39PM +1000, Nick Coghlan wrote: > On 28 July 2017 at 03:15, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek > wrote: > > Do you think it'd be possible to script the python-foo to python2-foo > > renaming? If yes, then maybe it'd make sense to just get some pps to > > do it in rawhide no

Re: Mass rebuild failures only on ppc64le: glibc problem?

Status update: Nick has pushed binutils-2.29-3.fc27, which disables the binutils change by default. (There is still an ld option to enable it. Hopefully, no packages use that yet.) Just rebuilding glibc is insufficient as a fix. The localentry optimization is so sensitive to changes that glibc

Re: Finalizing Fedora's Switch to Python 3

On 28.7.2017 22:44, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: On Fri, Jul 28, 2017 at 05:51:39PM +1000, Nick Coghlan wrote: On 28 July 2017 at 03:15, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: Do you think it'd be possible to script the python-foo to python2-foo renaming? If yes, then maybe it'd make sense t

Re: armv7hl builds running out of memory

On 07/27/2017 09:16 AM, Kaleb S. KEITHLEY wrote: > On 07/26/2017 06:25 PM, Al Stone wrote: >> I've been experimenting in a slightly different environment (RHEL vs Fedora) >> but have been seeing oddly similar results. The use or not of the "-pipe" in >> GCC didn't seem to help. If I forced the ma

Re: Finalizing Fedora's Switch to Python 3

On Fri, 2017-07-28 at 21:06 +0200, Till Maas wrote: > On Fri, Jul 28, 2017 at 10:29:12PM +1000, Nick Coghlan wrote: > > > It's only /usr/bin/python itself that still presents an unsolved > > problem, since the status quo (not providing it at all) is even > > more user hostile than pointing it at a

Re: Finalizing Fedora's Switch to Python 3

On Fri, Jul 28, 2017 at 11:11:05PM +0200, Miro Hrončok wrote: > On 28.7.2017 22:44, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > >On Fri, Jul 28, 2017 at 05:51:39PM +1000, Nick Coghlan wrote: > >>On 28 July 2017 at 03:15, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek > >>wrote: > >>>Do you think it'd be possible to script

Re: ImageMagick Unresponsive Maintainer process - hubbitus (Pavel Alexeev)

On 07/28/2017 07:20 AM, Michael Cronenworth wrote: > On 07/27/2017 09:29 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote: >> ok. I have pushed 6.9.9-3 to rawhide. >> >> Hopefully I got all the CVE's right in the changelog. >> If someone wants to check over and make sure I didn't miss any that were >> fixed in the 6.x branch

Re: ImageMagick Unresponsive Maintainer process - hubbitus (Pavel Alexeev)

On 07/28/2017 04:43 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > On 07/28/2017 07:20 AM, Michael Cronenworth wrote: >> On 07/27/2017 09:29 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote: >>> ok. I have pushed 6.9.9-3 to rawhide. >>> >>> Hopefully I got all the CVE's right in the changelog. >>> If someone wants to check over and make sure I di

Review swap: gimp-luminosity-masks

Hello team, I am looking for a review swap for gimp-luminosity-masks: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1476440 The package is very simple and easy to review. Thanks in advance, -- Luya Tshimbalanga Graphic & Web Designer E: l...@fedoraproject.org W: http://www.coolest-storm.net ___