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> From: zbys...@in.waw.pl
> > much like -u equates to _SYSTEMD_UNIT.
> Just to clear up potential confusion: -u is *not* equivalent to
_SYSTEMD_UNIT.
> You can show the match by looking at the (stricly unofficial) debug
output:
> $ SYSTEMD_LOG_LEVEL=debug journalctl -u X |& grep 'Journal filt
On Wed, 17 Jul 2013, Till Maas wrote:
On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 09:23:44AM -0400, Paul Wouters wrote:
Finally, for an easy fix for rebooting raspberry pi and co, I would
really like to save the timestamp and load it on reboot, similar to the
ranseed file.
Debian has a package for this:
http://
> From: zbys...@in.waw.pl
>
> On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 12:09:14PM -0400, john.flor...@dart.biz wrote:
> > > From: nott...@redhat.com
> > >
> > > john.flor...@dart.biz (john.flor...@dart.biz) said:
> > > > > You can provide binary path (_EXE=) by ”journalctl
> > /usr/sbin/sshd”.
> > > >
> > >
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It really feels like this discussion is beyond its peak usefulness.
Maybe we can give another shot of relevance by collecting a list of
packages that depend on syslog (or are useless without /var/log/messages
or other log files in /var/log) ?
I've heard logwatch, logrotate and fail2ban mentioned.
On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 1:34 AM, Matthew Miller
wrote:
> Personally, I'd be interested in seeing a lightweight
> forwarder which integrates with, say, Logstash.
More lightweight than running rsyslog with local logging turned off?
Is the overhead of rsyslog in such a configuration really a concern?
On 07/17/2013 05:40 PM, Matthias Clasen wrote:
It really feels like this discussion is beyond its peak usefulness.
Maybe we can give another shot of relevance by collecting a list of
packages that depend on syslog (or are useless without /var/log/messages
or other log files in /var/log) ?
I've
On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 07:14:32PM +0200, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote:
> But you've got a point here: I'd prefer for systmectl to avoid
> ellipsization when not on a tty. IIRC, this idea was rejected, because
> it also is confusing when the output changes significantly depending
> on how you
On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 01:39:30PM -0400, john.flor...@dart.biz wrote:
> > From: zbys...@in.waw.pl
> > On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 12:09:14PM -0400, john.flor...@dart.biz wrote:
> > > > From: nott...@redhat.com
> > > > john.flor...@dart.biz (john.flor...@dart.biz) said:
> > > > > > You can provide b
On Wed, 17 Jul 2013, Chris Adams wrote:
Once upon a time, Paul Wouters said:
I understand the query. But you would either need to bypass the local
dns caching resolver or flush the cache afterwards. The second option has
a race condition, but the first has the problem that we are trying to red
On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 07:42:49PM +0200, Miloslav Trmač wrote:
> > Personally, I'd be interested in seeing a lightweight
> > forwarder which integrates with, say, Logstash.
> More lightweight than running rsyslog with local logging turned off?
> Is the overhead of rsyslog in such a configuration r
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On 17 Jul 2013 18:18, "Brendan Conoboy" wrote:
>
> On 07/17/2013 09:53 AM, Bastien Nocera wrote:
>>
>> As I mentioned earlier in the thread, I'd rather have community
accessible machines.
>> And I'm not really comfortable manipulating build images from 4000 miles
away if
>> I haven't been able to
On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 7:52 PM, Matthew Miller
wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 07:42:49PM +0200, Miloslav Trmač wrote:
>> > Personally, I'd be interested in seeing a lightweight
>> > forwarder which integrates with, say, Logstash.
>> More lightweight than running rsyslog with local logging turne
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On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 05:26:10PM -0400, Jonathan Masters wrote:
> I concur. I have systems that live in a heterogeneous environment and need
> traditional syslog. By making it optional, it will ultimately die, forcing
> journal as the only viable option in a Fedora environment. This is IMO not
>
On Wed, 17 Jul 2013, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote:
Maybe we can give another shot of relevance by collecting a list of
packages that depend on syslog (or are useless without /var/log/messages
or other log files in /var/log) ?
I've heard logwatch, logrotate and fail2ban mentioned. Are there
oth
Once upon a time, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" said:
> On 07/17/2013 05:40 PM, Matthias Clasen wrote:
> >Maybe we can give another shot of relevance by collecting a list of
> >packages that depend on syslog (or are useless without /var/log/messages
> >or other log files in /var/log) ?
> >
> >I've heard
On Wed, 17 Jul 2013, Chris Adams wrote:
Once upon a time, Paul Wouters said:
On Wed, 17 Jul 2013, Chris Murphy wrote:
a. ntpd/ntpdate aren't installed by default with Fedora 19. I
don't see the feature proposing this be changed.
That's a bug then. It is needed for DNSSEC.
No, ntpd is not
On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 05:42:21PM +, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote:
> On 07/17/2013 05:40 PM, Matthias Clasen wrote:
> >It really feels like this discussion is beyond its peak usefulness.
> >
> >Maybe we can give another shot of relevance by collecting a list of
> >packages that depend on sysl
> From: nott...@redhat.com
>
> john.flor...@dart.biz (john.flor...@dart.biz) said:
> > > journalctl _COMM= works for me on F19.
> >
> > As it does for me, but somewhere it got clipped that what I was
> > asking/wishing for was a convenient -C option (like ps) to do just
this,
> > much like -u
On Wed, 17 Jul 2013, Eric Smith wrote:
On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 8:39 AM, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson"
wrote:
Allowing editing of log files is a pure security risk...
So is giving a sysadmin the root password, but we do it.
I generally make a copy of a log file and edit the copy, but I'd
oppose an
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On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 07:54:17PM +0200, Miloslav Trmač wrote:
> rsyslog has facilities to read from journal, send the full data in
> text, receive and read it back, and even write it back to journal at
> the destination. (Full disclosure I haven't actually tried such a
> chain up, and I wouldn't
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On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 07:14:32PM +0200, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote:
>
> But you've got a point here: I'd prefer for systmectl to avoid
> ellipsization when not on a tty. IIRC, this idea was rejected, because
> it also is confusing when the output changes significantly depending
> on how y
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> From: zbys...@in.waw.pl
> It only does an extra stat on the file do termine its kind, and then
> adds "_EXE=..." match. There shouldn't be any speed difference.
Hmmm... I cannot reproduce it now. It must have been something else.
Please disregard and my apologies for the noise.
--
John Flori
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On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 06:58:33PM +0100, M A Young wrote:
> >I generally make a copy of a log file and edit the copy, but I'd
> >oppose anything that took away the ability for log files to be edited.
> Another reason why you might to edit the journal is when you have to
> keep logs for a precise t
On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 01:40:27PM -0400, Matthias Clasen wrote:
> It really feels like this discussion is beyond its peak usefulness.
>
> Maybe we can give another shot of relevance by collecting a list of
> packages that depend on syslog (or are useless without /var/log/messages
> or other log f
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On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 05:41:38PM -0400, Matthew Miller wrote:
> On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 04:38:29PM -0500, Chris Adams wrote:
> > And, despite your statement to the contrary, "journalctl" (without -f)
> > does truncate long lines. The difference is that "journalctl" just
> > chops them off, while
On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 01:12:17PM -0500, Andrew McNabb wrote:
> On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 05:41:38PM -0400, Matthew Miller wrote:
> > On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 04:38:29PM -0500, Chris Adams wrote:
> > > And, despite your statement to the contrary, "journalctl" (without -f)
> > > does truncate long lin
On 12.07.2013 20:28, Toshio Kuratomi wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 01:22:37PM +0200, Jaroslav Reznik wrote:
>>
>> Because not all crypto implementations read their trusted information
>> directly
>> from the dynamic database, the tool will take care of extracting things as
>> appropriate after
= Proposed Self Contained Change: SSSD Smart Card Support =
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/SSSD_Smart_Card_Support
Change owner(s): Nalin Dahyabhai
During the F20 development cycle, SSSD intends to add support for
authenticating users using smart cards, much as it now supports doing so
Hi,
cdrkit-1.1.11-18 just entered rawhide, patched to use libcdio-paranoia
instead of cdparanoia. Most affected subpackages are probably wodim and
icedax. Dirsplit, libusal and genisoimage not that much.
This change can break popular burning frontends (k3b, brasero, ...) if
done poorly. Please
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On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 08:14:40PM +0200, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote:
>
> journalctl -fl in sufficiently new versions.
So that will be in Fedora 20, right? It doesn't seem to work in Fedora
19.
--
Andrew McNabb
http://www.mcnabbs.org/andrew/
PGP Fingerprint: 8A17 B57C 6879 1863 DE55 801
On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 01:29:45PM -0500, Andrew McNabb wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 08:14:40PM +0200, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote:
> >
> > journalctl -fl in sufficiently new versions.
>
> So that will be in Fedora 20, right? It doesn't seem to work in Fedora
> 19.
It's just an alias f
On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 11:39 AM, Matthew Miller
wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 11:20:17AM -0400, Bill Nottingham wrote:
> > It would likely push this to a system-wide change, but wouldn't it be
> > logical for this feature to also make a vagrant-able image as well?
>
> To be an official Vagrant
On Tue, 2013-07-16 at 12:24 +0200, Jaroslav Reznik wrote:
> = Proposed System Wide Change: Change Packaging Guidelines to discourage
> requires into /bin and /sbin =
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/NoBinDeps
>
> Change owner(s): Ales Kozumplik
On the face of it, calling this a Change s
On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 01:40:27PM -0400, Matthias Clasen wrote:
> It really feels like this discussion is beyond its peak usefulness.
>
> Maybe we can give another shot of relevance by collecting a list of
> packages that depend on syslog (or are useless without /var/log/messages
> or other log f
On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 01:40:27PM -0400, Matthias Clasen wrote:
> I've heard logwatch, logrotate and fail2ban mentioned. Are there
> others ?
Also worth noting that at least for fail2ban, the earlier change in Arch
Linux (where they are, for better or for worse, leading the way) means that
the ne
On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 05:42:21PM +, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote:
> yum whatprovides "/var/log/*" | grep Filename | wc -l
> 597
> About that much
That's not so helpful. Most of these are things which provide their own log
files of some sort and completely bypass syslog. In fact, we can
On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 02:34:40PM -0400, Julian C. Dunn wrote:
> > To be an official Vagrant image, we need Chef, and while Sam Kottler is
> > working with Opscode to make that finally happen (awesome!), I don't think
> > we want that to be a blocker.
> I work for Opscode. Sam and I have talked; w
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On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 3:10 PM, Matthew Miller wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 02:34:40PM -0400, Julian C. Dunn wrote:
> > > To be an official Vagrant image, we need Chef, and while Sam Kottler is
> > > working with Opscode to make that finally happen (awesome!), I don't
> think
> > > we want t
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On 07/17/2013 07:05 PM, Matthew Miller wrote:
On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 05:42:21PM +, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote:
yum whatprovides "/var/log/*" | grep Filename | wc -l
597
About that much
That's not so helpful. Most of these are things which provide their own log
files of some sort and
Once upon a time, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" said:
> On 07/17/2013 07:05 PM, Matthew Miller wrote:
> >On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 05:42:21PM +, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote:
> >>yum whatprovides "/var/log/*" | grep Filename | wc -l
> >>597
> >>About that much
> >That's not so helpful. Most of th
#fedora-meeting: FESCO (2013-07-17)
===
Meeting started by mitr at 18:00:48 UTC. The full logs are available at
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2013-07-17/fesco.2013-07-17-18.00.log.html
.
Meeting summary
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On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 07:46:01PM +, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote:
> >On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 05:42:21PM +, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote:
> >>yum whatprovides "/var/log/*" | grep Filename | wc -l
> >>597
> >>About that much
> >That's not so helpful. Most of these are things which pro
On Tue, 2013-07-16 at 19:07 -0400, Matthew Miller wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 03:14:24PM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
> > > But yes, adding potentially-release-blocking criteria is part of the plan.
> > Who will be working on this, what is the time frame, and what will they
> > be?
>
> Me, a
On Tue, 2013-07-16 at 21:13 -0400, Matthew Miller wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 08:58:40PM -0400, Ding Yi Chen wrote:
> > You still have not addressed the third party programs and scripts
> > that monitor /var/log/messages
>
> A) If someone is installing a program that expects this file, they
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On 07/17/2013 08:23 PM, Matthew Miller wrote:
On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 07:46:01PM +, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote:
On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 05:42:21PM +, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote:
yum whatprovides "/var/log/*" | grep Filename | wc -l
597
About that much
That's not so helpful. M
On Wed, 2013-07-17 at 12:26 +0200, Jaroslav Reznik wrote:
> = Proposed Self Contained Change: OS Installer Support for LVM Thin
> Provisioning =
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/InstallerLVMThinProvisioningSupport
>
> Change owner(s): David Lehman
>
> LVM has introduced thin provisioni
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HI
On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 4:32 PM, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote:
> On 07/17/2013 08:23 PM, Matthew Miller wrote:
>
>>
>> Are you suggesting we somehow need to patch all of these to use the
>> journal
>> instead of their own ad-hoc log file? Because that is Definitely Out of
>> Scope for this
On Wed, 2013-07-17 at 07:59 -0600, Chris Murphy wrote:
> a. ntpd/ntpdate aren't installed by default with Fedora 19.
In fact, ntpdate is, in many installs.
anaconda requires ntpdate, because we use it to check if the NTP server
addresses entered in anaconda's Time / Date spoke are valid.
initial-
On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 01:24:52PM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
> I mean the timeframe for getting the criteria changes proposed and
> applied. We generally want to have major criteria changes in place prior
> to Alpha TC1.
So, to put a number on it, does that mean _at_ the change freeze and bran
On Wed, 2013-07-17 at 16:09 +0200, Miroslav Lichvar wrote:
> > e. Why isn't this functionality being added to chrony, rather than bouncing
> > us back to ntpd?
>
> Which functionality exactly? Both ntpd and chronyd (in default
> configuration) let the kernel sync the RTC.
The ability to invoke
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On Wed, 2013-07-17 at 13:44 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
> On Wed, 2013-07-17 at 16:09 +0200, Miroslav Lichvar wrote:
>
> > > e. Why isn't this functionality being added to chrony, rather than
> > > bouncing us back to ntpd?
> >
> > Which functionality exactly? Both ntpd and chronyd (in default
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On 07/17/2013 08:41 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
HI
On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 4:32 PM, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote:
On 07/17/2013 08:23 PM, Matthew Miller wrote:
Are you suggesting we somehow need to patch all of these to
use the journal
instead of their own ad-hoc l
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I tried researching this issue out-of-band but I'm not getting any traction.
I have an F18 machine that had been running F13-16 perfectly, but somewhere
between the X driver changes, the new version of gnome-shell, a cogl update,
and the transition from PackageKit to upower started being very un
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On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 01:27:23PM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
> FWIW, FHS states[1]:
>
> "The following files, or symbolic links to files, must be in /var/log,
> if the corresponding subsystem is installed:
>
> File Description
> lastlog record of last login of each user
> messages
Once upon a time, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" said:
> Cut that number by half if you like if it somehow makes you feel
> more comfortable but the fact we have around 550 - 600
> service/daemons components in the distribution and still no policy
> or work being done to properly package stuff that need/
On Jul 17, 2013, at 2:41 PM, Adam Williamson wrote:
> On Wed, 2013-07-17 at 07:59 -0600, Chris Murphy wrote:
>> a. ntpd/ntpdate aren't installed by default with Fedora 19.
>
> In fact, ntpdate is, in many installs.
OK well I don't have it on any of the clean F19 installs I've got here, and I
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On Wed, 2013-07-17 at 13:36 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
>
> Does 'new automatic partitioning variant' mean 'another option in the
> drop-down box in Installation Options', more or less?
Exactly that - at the moment.
However...what we really lack here is some sort of explanation of the
trade
Thanks to those that were able to join us for the status meeting today, for
those unable the minutes are posted below:
Minutes:
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2013-07-17/fedora-meeting-1.2013-07-17-20.02.html
Minutes (text):
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2
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On 07/15/2013 04:26 PM, Jonathan Masters wrote:
On Jul 15, 2013, at 5:11, Miroslav Suchý wrote:
On 07/15/2013 10:44 AM, Jaroslav Reznik wrote:
= Proposed System Wide Change: No Default Syslog =
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/NoDefaultSyslog
Change owner(s): Lennart Poettering ,
Matth
> From: awill...@redhat.com
>
> On Wed, 2013-07-17 at 16:09 +0200, Miroslav Lichvar wrote:
>
> > > e. Why isn't this functionality being added to chrony, rather
> than bouncing us back to ntpd?
> >
> > Which functionality exactly? Both ntpd and chronyd (in default
> > configuration) let the ker
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Which gets me wondering if that is the best way to test for remote ntp
connectivity.
So, I'm curious now, if there is no remote NTP server listening, will the
anaconda server reject you from using that as a NTP server?
Mike
--
>
> Message: 12
> Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2013
On Wed, 2013-07-17 at 16:43 -0400, Matthew Miller wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 01:24:52PM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
> > I mean the timeframe for getting the criteria changes proposed and
> > applied. We generally want to have major criteria changes in place prior
> > to Alpha TC1.
>
> So,
On Wed, 2013-07-17 at 16:59 -0400, Colin Walters wrote:
> On Wed, 2013-07-17 at 13:36 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
>
> >
> > Does 'new automatic partitioning variant' mean 'another option in the
> > drop-down box in Installation Options', more or less?
>
> Exactly that - at the moment.
>
> H
On Wed, 2013-07-17 at 15:10 -0600, Mike wrote:
> Which gets me wondering if that is the best way to test for remote ntp
> connectivity.
>
>
> So, I'm curious now, if there is no remote NTP server listening, will
> the anaconda server reject you from using that as a NTP server?
It lists the serve
On 07/17/2013 08:55 PM, Chris Adams wrote:
Once upon a time, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" said:
>Cut that number by half if you like if it somehow makes you feel
>more comfortable but the fact we have around 550 - 600
>service/daemons components in the distribution and still no policy
>or work being
> From: miked...@gmail.com
> To:
> Date: 07/17/2013 17:11
> Subject: Re: F20 Self Contained Change: Remove deprecated calls of
> using ntpdate in favor of ntpd
> Sent by: devel-boun...@lists.fedoraproject.org
>
> Which gets me wondering if that is the best way to test for remote
> ntp connectiv
On 07/17/2013 09:04 PM, Troy Dawson wrote:
I've read though most of the email on this thread, and would just like
to put in my $.02.
I think this "System Wide Change" is 1 to 2 releases too early.
I'm not totally against it. But I live with one foot in RHEL land,
and one foot in Fedora. It
Le mardi 16 juillet 2013 à 08:59 +0200, Vít Ondruch a écrit :
> Dne 15.7.2013 18:31, Bill Nottingham napsal(a):
> > Jaroslav Reznik (jrez...@redhat.com) said:
> >> = Proposed Self Contained Change: Ruby on Rails 4.0 =
> >> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Ruby_on_Rails_4.0
> >>
> >> Change ow
On Jul 17, 2013, at 2:59 PM, Colin Walters wrote:
> On Wed, 2013-07-17 at 13:36 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
>
>>
>> Does 'new automatic partitioning variant' mean 'another option in the
>> drop-down box in Installation Options', more or less?
>
> Exactly that - at the moment.
>
> However
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