Just today i check updates, gnome-desktop3 was there, i didn't notice it but
it is following the gtk3 naming scheme, and, what i think is happening more
than desired, a lot of packages just kept going doing it.
I see an overuse or exploit or package names vs versions, which both terms are
very
Dne 28.3.2013 09:29, juanmabc napsal(a):
Just today i check updates, gnome-desktop3 was there, i didn't notice it but
it is following the gtk3 naming scheme, and, what i think is happening more
than desired, a lot of packages just kept going doing it.
I see an overuse or exploit or package names
Dne 27.3.2013 20:40, Tomas Mraz napsal(a):
===
#fedora-meeting: FESCO (2013-03-27)
===
Meeting started by t8m at 18:02:10 UTC. The full logs are available at
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2013-03-27/fesco.2013-03-2
Previous versions
$ echo "==$(pkg-config --cflags-only-I openssl)=="
== ==
New version
$ echo "==$(pkg-config --cflags-only-I openssl)=="
This space to empty string output can breaks some poorly written
autoconf script.
Remi.
P.S.1: I hope it could helps some packager...
avoid
On 03/28/2013 09:29 AM, juanmabc wrote:
> Just today i check updates, gnome-desktop3 was there, i didn't notice it but
> it is following the gtk3 naming scheme, and, what i think is happening more
> than desired, a lot of packages just kept going doing it.
>
> I see an overuse or exploit or pack
Dne 28.3.2013 12:09, Florian Festi napsal(a):
This is done to make life easier for package maintainers.
Sorry, you definitely not speak for me! This are just excuses. And I
asked already several times to have some way to reliable support
multiple version of packages without mangling their nam
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> Dne 28.3.2013 12:09, Florian Festi napsal(a):
> > This is done to make life easier for package maintainers.
>
> Sorry, you definitely not speak for me! This are just excuses. And I
> asked already several times to have some way to reliable support
> multiple versio
On 28. 3. 2013 at 12:59:44, Vít Ondruch wrote:
> Dne 28.3.2013 12:09, Florian Festi napsal(a):
> > This is done to make life easier for package maintainers.
>
> Sorry, you definitely not speak for me! This are just excuses. And I
> asked already several times to have some way to reliable support
>
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On 03/28/2013 08:30 AM, Jan Zelený wrote:
> On 28. 3. 2013 at 12:59:44, Vít Ondruch wrote:
>> Dne 28.3.2013 12:09, Florian Festi napsal(a):
>>> This is done to make life easier for package maintainers.
>>
>> Sorry, you definitely not speak for me! Thi
> From: Simone Caronni
>
> I'm one of those poor souls having to deal with Lotus Notes at work.
Me too. :(
Trying to use Notes just to handle the mail style of this list is a
ridiculous exercise. My former employer also used Notes, but at least
they offered me IMAP access which meant I could
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> On 03/28/2013 08:30 AM, Jan Zelený wrote:
> > On 28. 3. 2013 at 12:59:44, Vít Ondruch wrote:
> >> Dne 28.3.2013 12:09, Florian Festi napsal(a):
> >>> This is done to make life easier for package maintainers.
> >>
>
On 28. 3. 2013 at 08:31:22, Stephen Gallagher wrote:
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> On 03/28/2013 08:30 AM, Jan Zelený wrote:
> > On 28. 3. 2013 at 12:59:44, Vít Ondruch wrote:
> >> Dne 28.3.2013 12:09, Florian Festi napsal(a):
> >>> This is done to make life easier for pack
Dne 28.3.2013 13:30, Jan Zelený napsal(a):
On 28. 3. 2013 at 12:59:44, Vít Ondruch wrote:
Dne 28.3.2013 12:09, Florian Festi napsal(a):
This is done to make life easier for package maintainers.
Sorry, you definitely not speak for me! This are just excuses. And I
asked already several times to
Dne 28.3.2013 13:24, Matthias Clasen napsal(a):
- Original Message -
Dne 28.3.2013 12:09, Florian Festi napsal(a):
This is done to make life easier for package maintainers.
Sorry, you definitely not speak for me! This are just excuses. And I
asked already several times to have some wa
On 03/28/2013 12:59 PM, Vít Ondruch wrote:
> Dne 28.3.2013 12:09, Florian Festi napsal(a):
>> This is done to make life easier for package maintainers.
>
> Sorry, you definitely not speak for me! This are just excuses. And I
> asked already several times to have some way to reliable support
> mult
Welcome Dan! I hope you feel comfortable with Fedora Project community!
On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 5:57 AM, Dan Fruehauf wrote:
> Hey there,
>
> I've just signed up as a package maintainer in Fedora and would like to
> introduce NetworkManager-ssh - full SSH VPN integration for NetworkManager.
> T
On 28. 3. 2013 at 13:53:15, Vít Ondruch wrote:
> Dne 28.3.2013 13:30, Jan Zelený napsal(a):
> > On 28. 3. 2013 at 12:59:44, Vít Ondruch wrote:
> >> Dne 28.3.2013 12:09, Florian Festi napsal(a):
> >>> This is done to make life easier for package maintainers.
> >>
> >> Sorry, you definitely not spea
Don't forget autoconf, gcc, Samba, Tomcat, and other critical system tools.
Nico Kadel-Garcia
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On Mar 28, 2013, at 8:31, Stephen Gallagher wrote:
>
> It's not just Ruby that has these issues, though. To take a python
> example: Django. Most Django packag
On 2013-03-28, Jan Zelený wrote:
> On 28. 3. 2013 at 13:53:15, Vít Ondruch wrote:
>>
>> My point is: "First step to find technical solution for some issue is
>> admit that there is some issue".
>
> Exactly my point. I want to find out if there is really a technical or
> at least semi-technical is
On 28/03/13 14:29, Fedora Branched Report wrote:
> Compose started at Thu Mar 28 09:15:18 UTC 2013
> [denemo]
> denemo-0.9.4-0.fc18.i686 requires libgtksourceview-3.0.so.0
I have fixed up the rest of the gtksourceview broken deps, except for
this one. It apparently fails to build because
Looking for someone willing to review package needed for supporting
HD7xxx GPU family in F19
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=927269
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Petr,
thank you very much for yout input, answers are below:
On 28. 3. 2013 at 13:31:07, Petr Pisar wrote:
> On 2013-03-28, Jan Zelený wrote:
> > On 28. 3. 2013 at 13:53:15, Vít Ondruch wrote:
> >> My point is: "First step to find technical solution for some issue is
> >> admit that there is some
On 03/26/2013 04:17 AM, Andre Robatino wrote:
> *IMPORTANT*: All DVDs and Lives are oversized, so will not fit on the
> standard media.
To save others wasted time, please note that TC2 is not installable on bare
metal:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=928228
Also when installing to a
Hello,
I'm replying here as the question was posed here but I think this should be
moved off-list as is not related to Fedora development.
On 28 March 2013 13:38, wrote:
> I would like to hear what you've worked out. We had it going back as late
> as F15-16ish IIRC, but it got increasingly dif
Thanks Simone!
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Date: 03/28/2013 10:43
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Hello,
I'm replying here as the question was posed here
On Thu, Mar 28, 2013 at 08:39:02AM -0400, Bohuslav Kabrda wrote:
>
> And in fact, there is a proposal from Nick Coghlan [1] to make Python load
> mechanisms work good with multiple versions of packages, which in result
> would take Python pretty close to the Ruby way in this regard.
>
Actually --
Dne 28.3.2013 14:06, Florian Festi napsal(a):
On 03/28/2013 12:59 PM, Vít Ondruch wrote:
Dne 28.3.2013 12:09, Florian Festi napsal(a):
This is done to make life easier for package maintainers.
Sorry, you definitely not speak for me! This are just excuses. And I
asked already several times to h
On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 06:43:24PM +0200, Ville Skyttä wrote:
> Looks like a bunch of "move your bash completion scripts to
> /usr/share/bash-completion/completions" bugs were filed today without
> any information how to do it properly. I wish this would have been
> discussed beforehand with me bef
On Thu, 28 Mar 2013 16:36:27 +0100
Vít Ondruch wrote:
>
>
> Ah, are we going to distribute this howtos instead of binary RPM's
> now? It is 4 easy steps, everybody can handle it. May be we could
> convert whole distribution into bunch of how-tos. It would be nice,
> because how-to cannot have br
Product: Fedora
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=910272
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This new version requires perl(Module::Build::Tiny), AFAIK not yet in Fedora.
I'll look at that.
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Dne 28.3.2013 17:13, seth vidal napsal(a):
On Thu, 28 Mar 2013 16:36:27 +0100
Vít Ondruch wrote:
Ah, are we going to distribute this howtos instead of binary RPM's
now? It is 4 easy steps, everybody can handle it. May be we could
convert whole distribution into bunch of how-tos. It would be ni
One disclaimer to start off --
We're on a big tangent here. If I understood the original poster correctly,
he'd concerned about what we name parallel installable versions of packages
rather than whether we should have parallel installable packages at all.
That said, there's a lot to say about pa
On 03/28/2013 02:24 PM, Pádraig Brady wrote:
> On 03/26/2013 04:17 AM, Andre Robatino wrote:
>> *IMPORTANT*: All DVDs and Lives are oversized, so will not fit on the
>> standard media.
>
> To save others wasted time, please note that TC2 is not installable on bare
> metal:
> https://bugzilla.redh
Michael Schwendt wrote:
> On Mon, 25 Mar 2013 01:44:49 +0100, Kevin Kofler wrote:
>> But there's no rule that says that the soname has to be libcfitsio.so.3
>> (well, there is if the package builds using libtool, but e.g. CMake
>> allows any arbitrary soname, and it also correctly handles the case
TI_Eugene wrote:
> I need somebody who is interesting in qt-based applications and can help
> me to push some qt applications into official Fedora/CentOS repos.
> These applications are collected in QtDesktop meta-project
> (http://www.qtdesktop.org) and must be composed into new environment -
> wi
On Thu, 2013-03-28 at 13:53 +0100, Vít Ondruch wrote:
> Dne 28.3.2013 13:30, Jan Zelený napsal(a):
> > On 28. 3. 2013 at 12:59:44, Vít Ondruch wrote:
> >> Dne 28.3.2013 12:09, Florian Festi napsal(a):
> >>> This is done to make life easier for package maintainers.
> >> Sorry, you definitely not spe
Kevin Kofler wrote:
> TI_Eugene wrote:
>> I need somebody who is interesting in qt-based applications and can help
>> me to push some qt applications into official Fedora/CentOS repos.
>> These applications are collected in QtDesktop meta-project
>> (http://www.qtdesktop.org) and must be composed
On Thu, 2013-03-28 at 09:28 -0400, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote:
> Don't forget autoconf, gcc, Samba, Tomcat, and other critical system tools.
To throw an opinion into the pot, I like the current system. It makes
perfect sense to me to consider 'gnome-desktop' and 'gnome-desktop3' to
be two different t
On Thu, 2013-03-28 at 14:24 +, Pádraig Brady wrote:
> On 03/26/2013 04:17 AM, Andre Robatino wrote:
> > *IMPORTANT*: All DVDs and Lives are oversized, so will not fit on the
> > standard media.
>
> To save others wasted time, please note that TC2 is not installable on bare
> metal:
> https://
I see from a first glance that the main reason to keep this way is gonna be
easy packaging and less trouble.
To the easiness, i am pretty sure that it would me much easier to run an
existing operative system than developing a completely rewritten from scratch
as Linux, yet it happened for some
On Thu, 2013-03-28 at 20:35 +0100, juanmabc wrote:
> - pkg-1.0.x installed (and with its own updates)
> - pkg-2.0.x installed (and with its own updates)
> note the difference, *point and cause of all here*, from
> - pkg-1.0.x
> - pkg2-2.0.x
That's a very trivial difference; it barely exists. The
On 03/28/2013 03:32 PM, Adam Williamson wrote:
> On Thu, 2013-03-28 at 14:24 +, Pádraig Brady wrote:
>> As aid to people quickly scanning email, please markup URLs
>> so they're clickable, like:
>>
>> https://dl.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/stage/
>> https://download-ib01.fedoraproject.org/pub/al
On Thu, 2013-03-28 at 15:49 -0400, Andre Robatino wrote:
> Personally I don't think we should be going out of our way to discourage
> drive-bys unless bandwidth is in short supply and they're sucking too
> much of it away from the real testers. Drive-bys could become real
> testers later.
Resourc
On 03/28/2013 04:54 PM, Pádraig Brady wrote:
> On 03/28/2013 02:24 PM, Pádraig Brady wrote:
>> On 03/26/2013 04:17 AM, Andre Robatino wrote:
>>> *IMPORTANT*: All DVDs and Lives are oversized, so will not fit on the
>>> standard media.
>>
>> To save others wasted time, please note that TC2 is not in
On 03/28/2013 03:58 PM, Adam Williamson wrote:
> On Thu, 2013-03-28 at 15:49 -0400, Andre Robatino wrote:
>
>> Personally I don't think we should be going out of our way to discourage
>> drive-bys unless bandwidth is in short supply and they're sucking too
>> much of it away from the real testers.
Adam Williamson wrote:
> Resources aren't the problem, it's that these aren't general purpose
> pre-release images but people have an annoying tendency to think they
> are, and download them and complain when they don't work or eat their
> puppy or whatever, or write reviews about them. We really w
Adam Williamson wrote:
> Of course not, but that's kinda different. In the one case, the long
> slip bought us an entirely rewritten installer. In this case, any
> potential slip buys us...a prettified release name. Gee, willikers,
> watch me trying to restrain my excitement.
In any case, what thi
On Thu, 2013-03-28 at 21:17 +0100, Kevin Kofler wrote:
> Adam Williamson wrote:
> > Resources aren't the problem, it's that these aren't general purpose
> > pre-release images but people have an annoying tendency to think they
> > are, and download them and complain when they don't work or eat thei
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On Mar 28, 2013, at 15:43, Adam Williamson wrote:
> On Thu, 2013-03-28 at 20:35 +0100, juanmabc wrote:
>
>> - pkg-1.0.x installed (and with its own updates)
>> - pkg-2.0.x installed (and with its own updates)
>> note the difference, *
On 28/03/13 03:01 PM, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote:
Nico Kadel-Garcia
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On Mar 28, 2013, at 15:43, Adam Williamson wrote:
On Thu, 2013-03-28 at 20:35 +0100, juanmabc wrote:
- pkg-1.0.x installed (and with its own updates)
- pkg-2.0.x installed (and with i
Hi,
In case you're wondering why the Alpha TCs are all vastly oversized, here's
why:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=923547
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Adam Williamson wrote:
>I'm not sure that 'fixing' it provides any significant benefit other than
>looking tidy in pontificating emails. I mean, what's the actual problem caused
>by 'gnome-desktop' vs. 'gnome-desktop3'?
I think its clear, and also seems clear there is not much willing to
code/imp
On Thursday 28 March 2013 14:43:06 James Antill wrote:
> I agree this is a problem, everyone who knows how Fedora packaging
> works has said, to you, some variant of:
> The technical problem is being able to install multiple versions of a
> package, and you can do that now (and have been able to
On Thursday 28 March 2013 12:13:05 seth vidal wrote:
> The trouble is this - the solution you and others have suggested
> doesn't actually solve the problem it just moves it around. It also
> makes the situation of dep resolution and global updates that much more
> difficult. Which makes the manage
Le jeudi 28 mars 2013 à 17:45 +0100, Vít Ondruch a écrit :
> If this problem was put first time on the table in 2002,
> then there already passed 10 years of excuses.
Or that in 10 years, we didn't found a proper solution that was
sustainable.
> It is interesting to see
> that our competitio
> [gnome-applets]
> [gnome-panel]
Have these not been blocked yet?
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On Mar 28, 2013 6:09 PM, "Michael Scherer" wrote:
>
> Le jeudi 28 mars 2013 à 17:45 +0100, Vít Ondruch a écrit :
>
>
> > If this problem was put first time on the table in 2002,
> > then there already passed 10 years of excuses.
>
> Or that in 10 years, we didn't found a proper solution that was
>
On 28/03/13 05:38 PM, juanmabc wrote:
Adam Williamson wrote:
I'm not sure that 'fixing' it provides any significant benefit other than
looking tidy in pontificating emails. I mean, what's the actual problem caused
by 'gnome-desktop' vs. 'gnome-desktop3'?
I think its clear, and also seems clear
On 28/03/13 06:09 PM, Jens Petersen wrote:
[gnome-applets]
[gnome-panel]
Have these not been blocked yet?
And according to repoquery, it looks like panel obsoletes applets, and
classic-session obsoletes panel. I don't think I've seen that kind of
chained obsolete before. Is it actually goin
*IMPORTANT*: All DVDs and Lives with the exception of Live KDE and Live
SoaS are oversized, so will not fit on the standard media.
As per the Fedora 19 schedule [1], Fedora 19 Alpha Test Compose 3 (TC3)
is now available for testing. Content information, including changes,
can be found at https://f
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