Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Cinnamon as Default Desktop

2013-01-30 Thread drago01
On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 5:31 AM, Orcan Ogetbil wrote: > On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 10:27 AM, drago01 wrote: >> On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 10:14 AM, Sandro Mani wrote: >>> >>> Can't we simply re-organize the fedoraproject website in such way that the >>> download button points to something similar to the

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Dracut HostOnly

2013-01-30 Thread drago01
On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 1:25 AM, Matthew Garrett wrote: > On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 05:22:00PM -0600, Dennis Gilmore wrote: >> On Tue, 29 Jan 2013 16:32:12 + >> Matthew Garrett wrote: >> > On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 09:53:32AM -0600, Dennis Gilmore wrote: >> > > as legal has said we cannot pregene

Schedule for Wednesday's FESCo Meeting (2013-01-30)

2013-01-30 Thread Marcela Mašláňová
Following is the list of topics that will be discussed in the FESCo meeting Wednesday at 18:00UTC (1:00pm EST, 19:00 CET) in #fedora-meeting on irc.freenode.net. Links to all tickets below can be found at: https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/report/9 = Followups = #topic #1001 F19 Feature: JRuby 1.7

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: New firstboot

2013-01-30 Thread Stijn Hoop
On Tue, 29 Jan 2013 14:30:04 -0800 Adam Williamson wrote: > On Tue, 2013-01-29 at 20:20 +0100, Stijn Hoop wrote: > > On Tue, 29 Jan 2013 14:07:55 -0500 > > john.flor...@dart.biz wrote: > > > > > > From: Martin Sivak > > > > the tool will be started using systemd unit file which can be > > > >

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: New firstboot

2013-01-30 Thread Olav Vitters
On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 03:47:33PM -0500, Simo Sorce wrote: > When I install a freeipa server I do not want firstboot because I am not > going to create local users anyway. I am going to install freeipa and > then create users in LDAP. > > So far I just skipped firstboot by using tricks, like tell

Pod::LaTeX has been sub-packaged

2013-01-30 Thread Petr Pisar
On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 03:53:09PM +0100, Petr Pisar wrote: > On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 02:27:40PM +, Fedora Koji Build System wrote: > > Package: perl > > NVR: perl-5.16.2-248.fc19 > > User: ppisar > > Status: complete > > Tag Operation: untagged > > From Tag: f19 > > > > perl-5.16.2-248.fc19 s

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Developers Assistant

2013-01-30 Thread Jan Zelený
On 30. 1. 2013 at 08:50:23, Dan Horák wrote: > Jan Zelený píše v St 30. 01. 2013 v 08:22 +0100: > > On 29. 1. 2013 at 19:18:32, Miloslav Trmač wrote: > > > On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 9:14 AM, Jan Zelený wrote: > > > > On 28. 1. 2013 at 14:28:06, Bill Nottingham wrote: > > > >> Michael Scherer (m...@z

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Developers Assistant

2013-01-30 Thread Aleksandar Kurtakov
- Original Message - > From: "Jan Zelený" > To: devel@lists.fedoraproject.org > Cc: "Miloslav Trmač" > Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2013 9:22:07 AM > Subject: Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Developers Assistant > > On 29. 1. 2013 at 19:18:32, Miloslav Trmač wrote: > > On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at

Re: kworker is using up a lot of CPU

2013-01-30 Thread Eberhard Schruefer
On Jan 29, 2013, at 20:59 UTC, Chris Murphy wrote: On Jan 29, 2013, at 11:44 AM, Eberhard Schruefer https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel>> wrote: >/ I'm seeing kworker using up around 80% CPU time constantly and the laptop is running hot. />/ /> This is in cases when y

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: New firstboot

2013-01-30 Thread Martin Sivak
Hi, > > When I install a freeipa server I do not want firstboot because I > > am not > > going to create local users anyway. I am going to install freeipa > > and > > then create users in LDAP. > Could such use cases not be built into firstboot? Right you are, see another proposed feature that

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: systemd features

2013-01-30 Thread Gerd Hoffmann
On 01/30/13 01:08, Kay Sievers wrote: > On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 11:13 PM, Bill Nottingham wrote: >> Kay Sievers (k...@vrfy.org) said: Realistically, it's new textual files, replacing old textual files, which are then compiled into a binary file. I'm not sure why there's the intermed

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2013-01-30 Thread Bryn M. Reeves
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 01/29/2013 10:09 PM, G.Wolfe Woodbury wrote: > This is simply not true. > > There are hundreds of thousands of older desktops that are not > technically servers that have lots of older interfaces. Evidence is better than unsupported claims. Altho

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: systemd features

2013-01-30 Thread Kay Sievers
On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 11:42 AM, Gerd Hoffmann wrote: > On 01/30/13 01:08, Kay Sievers wrote: >> On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 11:13 PM, Bill Nottingham wrote: >>> Kay Sievers (k...@vrfy.org) said: > Realistically, it's new textual files, replacing old textual files, which > are then compiled

Re: f18+gnome3: mail-notification problem

2013-01-30 Thread Dario Lesca
Someone have some help for me? Thanks Il giorno mar, 29/01/2013 alle 16.10 +0100, Dario Lesca ha scritto: > When I run mail-notification and add some Evolution folder to > monitoring, the application crash with this error: > > > [lesca@dodo ~]$ mail-notification > > > > (mail-notification:24093

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: CUPS 1.6

2013-01-30 Thread Jiri Popelka
On 01/29/2013 07:10 PM, Benjamin De Kosnik wrote: 1) is there a way to test just the cups-1.6 stuff on F18? Or will people who want to help with this effort be running rawhide? Either run rawhide or use builds from http://jpopelka.fedorapeople.org/cups-1.6/ which is what I run here on F18. 2)

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: New firstboot

2013-01-30 Thread Jóhann B. Guðmundsson
On 01/30/2013 10:08 AM, Martin Sivak wrote: Hi, When I install a freeipa server I do not want firstboot because I am not going to create local users anyway. I am going to install freeipa and then create users in LDAP. Could such use cases not be built into firstboot? Right you are, see ano

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: systemd features

2013-01-30 Thread Gerd Hoffmann
On 01/30/13 11:55, Kay Sievers wrote: Hi, >> Still looks pointless. >> >> You convert the old-format into new-format, then compile new-format into >> the database. It's not obvious why you don't go straight from >> old-format to the database. hwdata package updates would directly show >> up in

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Developers Assistant

2013-01-30 Thread Jaroslav Reznik
- Original Message - > Le lundi 28 janvier 2013 à 15:27 +0100, Jan Zelený a écrit : > > > > > Currently we are working on some proof-of-concept stuff. But as an > > example, you > > can imagine a script for creation of C program templates. You will > > specify > > directory where it shoul

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Developers Assistant

2013-01-30 Thread Jan Zelený
On 30. 1. 2013 at 06:27:48, Jaroslav Reznik wrote: > - Original Message - > > > Le lundi 28 janvier 2013 à 15:27 +0100, Jan Zelený a écrit : > > > Currently we are working on some proof-of-concept stuff. But as an > > > example, you > > > can imagine a script for creation of C program templ

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Developers Assistant

2013-01-30 Thread Jaroslav Reznik
- Original Message - > On 30. 1. 2013 at 06:27:48, Jaroslav Reznik wrote: > > - Original Message - > > > > > Le lundi 28 janvier 2013 à 15:27 +0100, Jan Zelený a écrit : > > > > Currently we are working on some proof-of-concept stuff. But as > > > > an > > > > example, you > > > >

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: systemd features

2013-01-30 Thread Kay Sievers
On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 12:19 PM, Gerd Hoffmann wrote: > On 01/30/13 11:55, Kay Sievers wrote: > Hi, > >>> Still looks pointless. >>> >>> You convert the old-format into new-format, then compile new-format into >>> the database. It's not obvious why you don't go straight from >>> old-format to

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Developers Assistant

2013-01-30 Thread Jan Zelený
On 30. 1. 2013 at 06:54:14, Jaroslav Reznik wrote: > - Original Message - > > > On 30. 1. 2013 at 06:27:48, Jaroslav Reznik wrote: > > > - Original Message - > > > > > > > Le lundi 28 janvier 2013 à 15:27 +0100, Jan Zelený a écrit : > > > > > Currently we are working on some proof-o

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: New firstboot

2013-01-30 Thread Stephen Gallagher
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 01/29/2013 10:40 AM, Matthew Miller wrote: > On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 09:15:05AM -0500, Martin Sivak wrote: >> the tool will be started using systemd unit file which can be >> disabled. It will have to be explicit (even minimal install needs >> users

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: New firstboot

2013-01-30 Thread Stephen Gallagher
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 01/30/2013 05:08 AM, Martin Sivak wrote: > Hi, > >>> When I install a freeipa server I do not want firstboot because >>> I am not going to create local users anyway. I am going to >>> install freeipa and then create users in LDAP. > >> Could such

Proposed F19 Feature: Apache OpenOffice

2013-01-30 Thread Jaroslav Reznik
= Features/ApacheOpenOffice = https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/ApacheOpenOffice Feature owner(s): Andrea Pescetti Add Apache OpenOffice, the free productivity suite, to Fedora. == Detailed description == Apache OpenOffice (formerly OpenOffice.org) is the the leading free and open- sourc

Proposed F19 Feature: Federated VoIP

2013-01-30 Thread Jaroslav Reznik
= Features/FederatedVoIP = https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/FederatedVoIP Feature owner(s): Daniel Pocock Make it easier for the deployment of federated SIP and XMPP (Jabber) networks, functioning much like federated SMTP email. == Detailed description == Many VoIP installations still

Proposed F19 Feature: firewalld Lockdown

2013-01-30 Thread Jaroslav Reznik
= Features/FirewalldLockdown = https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/FirewalldLockdown Feature owner(s): Thomas Woerner This feature adds a simple configuration setting for firewalld to be able to lock down configuration changes from local applications. == Detailed description == Local appl

Proposed F19 Feature: firewalld Rich Language

2013-01-30 Thread Jaroslav Reznik
= Features/FirewalldRichLanguage = https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/FirewalldRichLanguage Feature owner(s): Thomas Woerner This feature adds a rich (high level) language to firewalld, that allows to easily create complex firewall rules without the knowledge of iptables syntax. = Detaile

Proposed F19 Feature: NetworkManager Bonding Support

2013-01-30 Thread Jaroslav Reznik
= Features/NetworkManagerBonding = https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/NetworkManagerBonding Feature owner(s): Pavel Šimerda , Dan Williams NetworkManager should be able to configure bond master interfaces with commonly used options and recognize their existing configuration on startup wi

Proposed F19 Feature: NetworkManager Bridging Support

2013-01-30 Thread Jaroslav Reznik
= Features/NetworkManagerBridging = https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/NetworkManagerBridging Feature owner(s): Pavel Šimerda , Dan Williams NetworkManager should be able to configure bridge interfaces with commonly used options and recognize their existing configuration on startup witho

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Apache OpenOffice

2013-01-30 Thread Stephen Gallagher
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 01/30/2013 07:44 AM, Jaroslav Reznik wrote: > = Features/ApacheOpenOffice = > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/ApacheOpenOffice > > Feature owner(s): Andrea Pescetti > > Add Apache OpenOffice, the free productivity suite, to Fedora. > >

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Apache OpenOffice

2013-01-30 Thread Jaroslav Reznik
- Original Message - > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 01/30/2013 07:44 AM, Jaroslav Reznik wrote: > > = Features/ApacheOpenOffice = > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/ApacheOpenOffice > > > > Feature owner(s): Andrea Pescetti > > > > Add Apache OpenOffic

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: New firstboot

2013-01-30 Thread John . Florian
> From: Stephen Gallagher > That said, the current firstboot allows you to just walk through and > skip user creation, last I checked. So I'm not sure why you need to > cancel it. If you just don't enter anything in the username and > password fields, it doesn't stop you. Exactly right, and tha

[perl] Sub-package Text-Soundex

2013-01-30 Thread Petr Pisar
commit 041bd01ba4573d768795a9ed1e067db0db93fd98 Author: Petr Písař Date: Wed Jan 30 13:41:13 2013 +0100 Sub-package Text-Soundex perl.spec | 37 ++--- 1 files changed, 34 insertions(+), 3 deletions(-) --- diff --git a/perl.spec b/perl.spec index e2ff79d..

[perl] Fix conflict declaration at perl-Pod-LaTeX

2013-01-30 Thread Petr Pisar
commit 907fd9bb7dab48cf9fc6bb66fb4c8e6edc32ec3f Author: Petr Písař Date: Wed Jan 30 13:52:58 2013 +0100 Fix conflict declaration at perl-Pod-LaTeX perl.spec |3 ++- 1 files changed, 2 insertions(+), 1 deletions(-) --- diff --git a/perl.spec b/perl.spec index e527324..846cc5a 100644 --

[perl] Remove bundled Module-Pluggable

2013-01-30 Thread Petr Pisar
commit a0837e73998de6f544e544f7d0f7cfdfd2b0c786 Author: Petr Písař Date: Wed Jan 30 14:17:40 2013 +0100 Remove bundled Module-Pluggable perl.spec |5 + 1 files changed, 5 insertions(+), 0 deletions(-) --- diff --git a/perl.spec b/perl.spec index 846cc5a..0e9bfbd 100644 --- a/perl.

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Apache OpenOffice

2013-01-30 Thread Michael Scherer
Le mercredi 30 janvier 2013 à 12:44 +, Jaroslav Reznik a écrit : > Two new versions, 3.4.0 and 3.4.1, were released in the last 8 months and a > major update, 4.0, is in the works and scheduled for April 2012. I assume that's planned for 2013, not 2012 ? -- Michael Scherer -- devel maili

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Apache OpenOffice

2013-01-30 Thread François Cami
Hello, On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 1:44 PM, Jaroslav Reznik wrote: > = Features/ApacheOpenOffice = > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/ApacheOpenOffice > > Feature owner(s): Andrea Pescetti > > Add Apache OpenOffice, the free productivity suite, to Fedora. > > == Detailed description == > Apac

Proposed F19 Feature: Pcsd Configuration Wizards

2013-01-30 Thread Jaroslav Reznik
= Features/Pcsd Configuration Wizards = https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/Pcsd_Configuration_Wizards Feature owner(s): Chris Feist This feature will allow easier building of configuration wizards for pcsd (the Pacemaker/Corosync GUI), so through a simple configuration file we can create

Proposed F19 Feature: oVirt engine 3.2

2013-01-30 Thread Jaroslav Reznik
= Features/oVirtEngine 3.2 = https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/oVirtEngine_3.2 Feature owner(s): Juan Hernández The oVirt engine is the management application of the oVirt virtualization platform. Version 3.2 is the latest version, including many new features. == Detailed description ==

Proposed F19 Feature: Realmd FreeIPA Support

2013-01-30 Thread Jaroslav Reznik
= Features/RealmdFreeIpaSupport = https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/RealmdFreeIpaSupport Feature owner(s): Stef Walter realmd currently supports discovery and configuring of Active Directory domains. With this feature it will also include support for FreeIPA domains. == Detailed descri

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: New firstboot

2013-01-30 Thread Martin Sivak
Hi, the this should be not a problem. The intended logic here is requiring enabled root OR user(s). We might add ssh keys as a valid option if needed too (but I am not sure about entering the key, typing it manually is probably not a good idea). Moreover, initial-setup has a working quit butto

Proposed F19 Feature: Systemtap 2.2

2013-01-30 Thread Jaroslav Reznik
= Features/Systemtap22 = https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/Systemtap22 Feature owner(s): Lukas Berk , Frank Ch. Eigler A new feature release of Systemtap. == Detailed description == Systemtap 2.2 will introduce several new features: * Native Java per-method probing capabilities (using by

Proposed F19 Feature: Thermostat 1.0

2013-01-30 Thread Jaroslav Reznik
= Features/Thermostat1.0 = https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/Thermostat1.0 Feature owner(s): Omair Majid == Detailed description == Thermostat is a serviceability and instrumentation tool for OpenJDK. The 1.0 release of thermostat brings a number of new features that developers may find

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Apache OpenOffice

2013-01-30 Thread Caolán McNamara
On Wed, 2013-01-30 at 12:44 +, Jaroslav Reznik wrote: > = Features/ApacheOpenOffice = > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/ApacheOpenOffice > > Feature owner(s): Andrea Pescetti > > Add Apache OpenOffice, the free productivity suite, to Fedora. "A considerable cleanup has been performe

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: New firstboot

2013-01-30 Thread Matthew Miller
On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 08:01:38AM -0500, Stephen Gallagher wrote: > In what situation would you ever have a system that requires neither > users nor root access? Or are you saying that root access would be via > SSH keys? I think it's probably a valid feature request to be able to Root access via

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Apache OpenOffice

2013-01-30 Thread Michael Ekstrand
On 01/30/2013 07:57 AM, François Cami wrote: > Hello, > > On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 1:44 PM, Jaroslav Reznik wrote: >> = Features/ApacheOpenOffice = >> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/ApacheOpenOffice >> >> Feature owner(s): Andrea Pescetti >> >> Add Apache OpenOffice, the free productivit

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Checkpoint/Restore

2013-01-30 Thread Josh Boyer
On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 11:11 AM, Adrian Reber wrote: > On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 11:02:57AM -0500, Josh Boyer wrote: >> > CONFIG_NAMESPACES seems to be required to make all those activated _NS >> > options actually enabled: >> > >> > config-generic:CONFIG_PID_NS=y >> > config-generic:CONFIG_UTS_NS=

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: systemd/udev Predictable Network Interface Names

2013-01-30 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 29.01.2013 19:38, schrieb Matthew Garrett: > On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 12:32:30PM -0600, Dan Williams wrote: > >> Except then you run into phones or WWAN cards that show up as Ethernet >> devices, but aren't really Ethernet but just IP-in-8023-frames because >> that was easier to do on Windows.

[Bug 905995] New: perl-Mozilla-LDAP upstream tarball checksum mismatch

2013-01-30 Thread bugzilla
Product: Fedora https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=905995 Bug ID: 905995 Summary: perl-Mozilla-LDAP upstream tarball checksum mismatch Product: Fedora Version: rawhide Component: perl-Mozilla-LDAP Severity: medium

F19: system-config-kickstart

2013-01-30 Thread Gene Czarcinski
Much is made of the great new anaconda introduced in Fedora 18. But, this great new anaconda completely broke system-config-kickstart because old-anaconda code used but s-c-k disappeared. Obviously there was little or no testing of s-c-k or perhaps nobody uses it and/or nobody cares. https://

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Checkpoint/Restore

2013-01-30 Thread Adrian Reber
On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 10:13:44AM -0500, Josh Boyer wrote: > On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 11:11 AM, Adrian Reber wrote: > > On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 11:02:57AM -0500, Josh Boyer wrote: > >> > CONFIG_NAMESPACES seems to be required to make all those activated _NS > >> > options actually enabled: > >> >

[Bug 906007] New: Please revert the "unbundling" of "inc::Module::Install::DSL", at least when bootstrapping

2013-01-30 Thread bugzilla
Product: Fedora https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=906007 Bug ID: 906007 Summary: Please revert the "unbundling" of "inc::Module::Install::DSL", at least when bootstrapping Product: Fedora Version: rawhid

Re: F19: system-config-kickstart

2013-01-30 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Wed, 30 Jan 2013 11:00:31 -0500 Gene Czarcinski wrote: > Much is made of the great new anaconda introduced in Fedora 18. But, > this great new anaconda completely broke system-config-kickstart > because old-anaconda code used but s-c-k disappeared. > > Obviously there was little or no testin

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: systemd features

2013-01-30 Thread Miloslav Trmač
On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 1:08 AM, Kay Sievers wrote: > And because a major part of the data the hwdb will carry in the future > will be the equivalent of udev rules, and should not be shipped by a > different package, because it it might carry specifics needed for a > certain functionality, just li

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: MEMSTOMP

2013-01-30 Thread Kevin Fenzi
From the feature page: "If the executable does not make undefined calls, then it will run normally. If it does make undefined calls you will either get an abort as soon as the undefined call is detected or you will get a backtrace when the undefined call is detected." Does this mean abrt will tr

[perl-Module-Install] Don't "unbundle" Module::Install as we end up build-requiring ourselves

2013-01-30 Thread Paul Howarth
commit 9489f626259a5c33217558518f8295900f95a981 Author: Paul Howarth Date: Wed Jan 30 16:22:31 2013 + Don't "unbundle" Module::Install as we end up build-requiring ourselves perl-Module-Install.spec |8 1 files changed, 4 insertions(+), 4 deletions(-) --- diff --git a/per

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: New firstboot

2013-01-30 Thread Stef Walter
On 01/30/2013 12:14 PM, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote: > On 01/30/2013 10:08 AM, Martin Sivak wrote: >> Hi, >> When I install a freeipa server I do not want firstboot because I am not going to create local users anyway. I am going to install freeipa and then create users in

Proposed F19 Feature: Network Team driver - Update for new features

2013-01-30 Thread Jaroslav Reznik
= Features/TeamDriverUpdate = https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/TeamDriverUpdate Feature owner(s): Jiri Pirko Network Team driver allows multiple network interfaces to be teamed together and act like a single one. This update adds several kind of new features to it. == Detailed descript

[perl] Sub-package B-Lint

2013-01-30 Thread Petr Pisar
commit c68375d963cb969402071887e266fcf1d2901579 Author: Petr Písař Date: Wed Jan 30 17:16:05 2013 +0100 Sub-package B-Lint perl.spec | 32 ++-- 1 files changed, 30 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-) --- diff --git a/perl.spec b/perl.spec index 0e9bfbd..e3e5b91 100

Static Analysis: tweaks to data model and added cpychecker support

2013-01-30 Thread David Malcolm
Short version: Updates to "mock-with-analysis" [1]: (a) changes to the data model (b) cpychecker support added Longer version: I've been hacking on "mock-with-analysis", my tool for running static code analysis as a side-effect within a regular srpm rebuild (see [1]). I've tweaked the data mo

[perl-Image-Info] Created tag perl-Image-Info-1.33-2.fc19

2013-01-30 Thread Paul Howarth
The lightweight tag 'perl-Image-Info-1.33-2.fc19' was created pointing to: b1a6842... Don't BR: perl(Image::TIFF); it's provided by this package -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl perl-devel mailing list perl-de...@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fe

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: NetworkManager Bridging Support

2013-01-30 Thread Robert Kukura
On 01/30/2013 08:03 AM, Jaroslav Reznik wrote: > = Features/NetworkManagerBridging = > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/NetworkManagerBridging > > Feature owner(s): Pavel Šimerda , Dan Williams at redhat dot com> > > NetworkManager should be able to configure bridge interfaces with comm

[Bug 906007] Please revert the "unbundling" of "inc::Module::Install::DSL", at least when bootstrapping

2013-01-30 Thread bugzilla
Product: Fedora https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=906007 Petr Šabata changed: What|Removed |Added Fixed In Version||perl-File-Remove-1.52-5.fc1

[Bug 906007] Please revert the "unbundling" of "inc::Module::Install::DSL", at least when bootstrapping

2013-01-30 Thread bugzilla
Product: Fedora https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=906007 Petr Šabata changed: What|Removed |Added Status|ASSIGNED|CLOSED Resolution|

Fedora ARM weekly status meeting 2013-01-30

2013-01-30 Thread Paul Whalen
This weeks Fedora ARM status meeting will take place today (Wednesday Jan 30th) in #fedora-meeting-1 on Freenode. Times in various time zones (please let us know if these do not work): PDT: 1pm MDT: 2pm CDT: 3pm EDT: 4pm UTC: 8pm BST: 9pm CST: 10pm Current items on the agenda: 0) Status of ACTI

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Cinnamon as Default Desktop

2013-01-30 Thread Miloslav Trmač
On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 2:12 PM, Jiri Eischmann wrote: > Polls are not a good way to find out what the majority wants. Because > the subset of users that usually participate in such polls don't > represent the whole user base. It's just not a statistically > representative sample. > > BTW I've got

Re: how reload udev rules and systemd on F18

2013-01-30 Thread Sérgio Basto
On Ter, 2013-01-29 at 17:59 +, Sérgio Basto wrote: > On Ter, 2013-01-29 at 01:52 +0100, Lennart Poettering wrote: > > Yes, even then. udev will notice rules dropped there. > > OK I will test that Sorry other question , if this is True since when is True ? is applicable on F16 ? Many thank

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Cinnamon as Default Desktop

2013-01-30 Thread Miloslav Trmač
On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 4:13 AM, Máirín Duffy wrote: > On 01/29/2013 04:59 PM, Eric Smith wrote: >> I don't disagree with the "more research and reason" part, but the >> current default desktop has only been "our default" for four releases, >> F15 through F18. I don't recall any serious "research

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: systemd features

2013-01-30 Thread Bill Nottingham
Kay Sievers (k...@vrfy.org) said: > > Either you're intending for the lifetime of your OS to be shipping systemd > > updates that update the base data set, > > I don't intend to ship update packages in the context of systemd, we > can just update the data in the package like we add patches for ot

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Network Team driver - Update for new features

2013-01-30 Thread Bill Nottingham
Jaroslav Reznik (jrez...@redhat.com) said: > = Features/TeamDriverUpdate = > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/TeamDriverUpdate > > Feature owner(s): Jiri Pirko > > Network Team driver allows multiple network interfaces to be teamed together > and act like a single one. This update adds

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Cinnamon as Default Desktop

2013-01-30 Thread Miloslav Trmač
On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 10:07 AM, Aleksandar Kurtakov wrote: > Regarding "Cinnamon as Default Desktop" - how many active contributors do > really take care of Cinnamon packaging? I don't think that anything that has > less than 3-4 can even be considered. Last time I checked the only options >

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: systemd features

2013-01-30 Thread Tomas Mraz
On Wed, 2013-01-30 at 13:07 -0500, Bill Nottingham wrote: > Kay Sievers (k...@vrfy.org) said: > > > Either you're intending for the lifetime of your OS to be shipping systemd > > > updates that update the base data set, > > > > I don't intend to ship update packages in the context of systemd, we

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Cinnamon as Default Desktop

2013-01-30 Thread Miloslav Trmač
On Sun, Jan 27, 2013 at 3:53 PM, Jaroslav Reznik wrote: > = Features/Cinnamon as Default Desktop = > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/Cinnamon_as_Default_Desktop > > Feature owner(s): Eric Smith Most if not all packages are actually owned by Leigh Scott, who I haven't seen participate in

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: systemd features

2013-01-30 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Wed, 30 Jan 2013 19:18:40 +0100 Tomas Mraz wrote: > +1 million - another data point - ca-certificates package - it was > much cleaner to split it out of openssl. +1 a lot from me too. Adding to churn of a core system component to simply update data files is bad. kevin signature.asc Descri

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Cinnamon as Default Desktop

2013-01-30 Thread Máirín Duffy
On 01/30/2013 01:05 PM, Miloslav Trmač wrote: >> Actually a lot of research and reason went into GNOME 3's development >> [1], > That's about as relevant as "a lot of coding went into $project", > which is... not a whole lot when considering which project to make the > default. But every release i

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Cinnamon as Default Desktop

2013-01-30 Thread Dan Mashal
On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 10:22 AM, Miloslav Trmač wrote: > On Sun, Jan 27, 2013 at 3:53 PM, Jaroslav Reznik wrote: >> = Features/Cinnamon as Default Desktop = >> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/Cinnamon_as_Default_Desktop >> >> Feature owner(s): Eric Smith > > Most if not all packages are

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: systemd features

2013-01-30 Thread Jakub Jelinek
On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 07:18:40PM +0100, Tomas Mraz wrote: > > The point is, we've done this in the past where we shipped the data with > > the tools, and we very quickly moved to shipping the data separate - it's > > cleaner, allows for just updating the data when necessary, and it forces > > peo

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: MATE Desktop 1.6

2013-01-30 Thread Dan Mashal
On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 7:28 AM, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > On Mon, 28 Jan 2013 22:52:28 -0800 > Dan Mashal wrote: > >> On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 4:57 PM, Adam Williamson >> wrote: > > ...snip... > >> > >> > I note this feature doesn't seem to incorporate adding a MATE spin >> > - is a separate feature

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: MATE Desktop 1.6

2013-01-30 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Wed, 30 Jan 2013 11:21:15 -0800 Dan Mashal wrote: > Thank you Kevin. > > MATE 1.6 + Compiz spin submitted last night. > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MATE_%2B_Compiz_Spin > > Live image available for testing here: > > http://bitchx.ca/Image-FedoraMateCompiz.iso > > Have at it. Can you

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: CUPS 1.6

2013-01-30 Thread Benjamin De Kosnik
Thanks! > > 3) in "how to test" there is no mention of print quality > > regressions. I'm concerned that in the effort to sync with cups-1.6 > > and upstream, mostly just the mechanics of finding a printer and > > getting a page out are being tested. > > > > This is just scratching the surface. H

[Bug 906095] New: perl-IO-Compress confusion

2013-01-30 Thread bugzilla
Product: Fedora https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=906095 Bug ID: 906095 Summary: perl-IO-Compress confusion Product: Fedora Version: 18 Component: perl Severity: unspecified Priority: unspecified Reporter

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: MATE Desktop 1.6

2013-01-30 Thread Dan Mashal
On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 11:34 AM, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > On Wed, 30 Jan 2013 11:21:15 -0800 > Dan Mashal wrote: > >> Thank you Kevin. >> >> MATE 1.6 + Compiz spin submitted last night. >> >> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MATE_%2B_Compiz_Spin >> >> Live image available for testing here: >> >> http:

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: CUPS 1.6

2013-01-30 Thread Chris Murphy
On Jan 29, 2013, at 11:10 AM, Benjamin De Kosnik wrote: > > This is just scratching the surface. How are you going to evaluate > quality? I'm concerned about the rasterization changes, the filter > changes. Hopefully 1.6 may solve some of the image-quality regressions > I've been seeing. Quali

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Developers Assistant

2013-01-30 Thread Bill Nottingham
Jan Zelený (jzel...@redhat.com) said: > I've already started to work on that as well. Currently I'm putting together > topics from Fedora wiki that are eligible to be on such page, either as they > are or with some (rather minor) modifications. > > I'd like them to be structured, easy to compre

Summary/Minutes for today's FESCo Meeting (2013-01-30)

2013-01-30 Thread Marcela Mašláňová
Title: #fedora-meeting: FESCO (2013-01-30) #fedora-meeting: FESCO (2013-01-30) Meeting started by mmaslano at 18:01:17 UTC (full logs). Meeting summary init process (mmaslano, 18:01:39) #1001 F19 Feature: JRuby 1.7 - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/JRuby_1.7 (mmaslano, 18:03:

ARM arches in F19 and forward.

2013-01-30 Thread Dennis Gilmore
Hi all, This is just a note for a wider audience. the Fedora ARM has dropped support for software floating point going forward, we will only be building hardware floating point binaries from Fedora 19 on. it was discussed at FUDCon and on the arm list the FUDCon notes https://fedoraproject.org/w

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Dracut HostOnly

2013-01-30 Thread Miloslav Trmač
On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 4:53 PM, Dennis Gilmore wrote: > even loading a 20mb initramfs from a sdcard on a slow > arm box doesnt take that long, and id personally much rather be able to > change hardware or yank the drive and put it into a different box > without worrying about making sure i have

Re: F19: system-config-kickstart

2013-01-30 Thread Gene Czarcinski
On 01/30/2013 11:10 AM, Kevin Fenzi wrote: On Wed, 30 Jan 2013 11:00:31 -0500 Gene Czarcinski wrote: Much is made of the great new anaconda introduced in Fedora 18. But, this great new anaconda completely broke system-config-kickstart because old-anaconda code used but s-c-k disappeared. Obvi

Re: Summary/Minutes for today's FESCo Meeting (2013-01-30)

2013-01-30 Thread Marcela Mašláňová
I realized I sent the wrong (html) minutes. Therefore, these minutes are for those who ignore html emails. === #fedora-meeting: FESCO (2013-01-30) === Meeting started by mmaslano at 18:01:17 UTC. The full logs are available at htt

[389-devel] please review: Ticket 497 - Console logins fail intermittently (adminutil)

2013-01-30 Thread Mark Reynolds
https://fedorahosted.org/389/ticket/479 https://fedorahosted.org/389/attachment/ticket/479/0001-Ticket-497-Console-logins-fail-intermittenly.patch -- Mark Reynolds Red Hat, Inc mreyno...@redhat.com -- 389-devel mailing list 389-de...@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailm

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Cinnamon as Default Desktop

2013-01-30 Thread TK009
On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 1:28 PM, Máirín Duffy wrote: > But every release is not a decision point, "which desktop will we make > default this time?" I believe it is a point where review where are we are, and where we would like to be, now and in the future. > Certainly it is *not* a given or gra

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Replace MySQL with MariaDB

2013-01-30 Thread Naheem Zaffar
On 30 January 2013 04:24, James Hogarth wrote: > > Second, if mariadb differs more in the future and stops to be "drop-in" > replacement, then we'll need an alternative for applications, where mariadb > won't be suitable enough. Nevertheless, this is not a current issue right > now. > > > > Indee

[Bug 906095] perl-IO-Compress confusion

2013-01-30 Thread bugzilla
Product: Fedora https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=906095 Paul Howarth changed: What|Removed |Added CC||p...@city-fan.org --- Com

using rpms for non-root installs

2013-01-30 Thread Mátyás Selmeci
Hi, This may be a long shot, but I am interested in repackaging some RPMs (for example, some of the Globus packages in EPEL, as well as grid software that my group builds) such that the software in them may be installed by unprivileged users, or into a non-standard

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Dracut HostOnly

2013-01-30 Thread Bill Nottingham
Miloslav Trmač (m...@volny.cz) said: > On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 4:53 PM, Dennis Gilmore wrote: > > even loading a 20mb initramfs from a sdcard on a slow > > arm box doesnt take that long, and id personally much rather be able to > > change hardware or yank the drive and put it into a different bo

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Cinnamon as Default Desktop

2013-01-30 Thread Michael scherer
On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 11:09:07AM -0800, Dan Mashal wrote: > I spoke with Clem Lefebvre (creator of Linux Mint) last night they > have a great upstream core of developers. With all due respect, and after having looked to a bit of various mint source code ( mint-foo tools and various cinnamon rela

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Cinnamon as Default Desktop

2013-01-30 Thread Matej Cepl
On 2013-01-29, 22:52 GMT, Michael Scherer wrote: > I am delighted to announce you that Red Hat has a policy of not > tolerating drugs on the work place. So you should be utterly relieved to > know that no people posting here with a @redhat.com email should be > under the influence of any serious ha

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Cinnamon as Default Desktop

2013-01-30 Thread Matej Cepl
On 2013-01-29, 00:50 GMT, Adam Williamson wrote: > My entirely personal take on this is that I don't really care that > much, but I don't see a convincing case for the change. My personal take on this (just that everybody seems to have to have an opinion on this): a) one of the most important

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Cinnamon as Default Desktop

2013-01-30 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 23:15:55 +0100, Matej Cepl wrote: On 2013-01-29, 22:52 GMT, Michael Scherer wrote: I am delighted to announce you that Red Hat has a policy of not tolerating drugs on the work place. So you should be utterly relieved to know that no people posting here with a @redhat.c

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