Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Guile2

2013-01-24 Thread Jan Synacek
On 01/23/2013 04:54 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > On Wed, 23 Jan 2013 09:58:09 -0500 (EST) > Jaroslav Reznik wrote: > >> = Features/Guile2 = >> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/Guile2 >> >> Feature owner(s): Jan Synacek >> >> Update GNU Guile to version 2.0.x in Fedora 19. >> >> == Detailed

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Shared System Certificates

2013-01-24 Thread Florian Weimer
On 01/23/2013 04:05 PM, Jaroslav Reznik wrote: OpenSSL: p11-kit tool will extract trusted certificate PEM blocks from the PKCS#11 trust module. These extracted certificates will be placed in a location so that they can be consumed by OpenSSL by default. T

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Guile2

2013-01-24 Thread Jan Synacek
On 01/23/2013 10:23 PM, Bill Nottingham wrote: > Jaroslav Reznik (jrez...@redhat.com) said: >> = Features/Guile2 = >> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/Guile2 >> >> Feature owner(s): Jan Synacek >> >> Update GNU Guile to version 2.0.x in Fedora 19. >> >> == Detailed description == >> Curr

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Fedora Upgrade - using yum

2013-01-24 Thread drago01
On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 11:57 PM, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote: > On 01/23/2013 10:55 PM, drago01 wrote: >> >> Supporting "none" is not an option. > > > Really suddenly not an option. > > We did that for a long time why is that suddenly not an option so please > enlighten me why that's not an opt

Re: drop inheritance at f19 branch point?

2013-01-24 Thread Frank Murphy
On Thu, 24 Jan 2013 04:31:03 +0100 Lennart Poettering wrote: > > You know, I really dislike packaging things. I love hacking. If I > package something then that's an ugly side effect of what I really > want to do. And thus I'd spend as little time on packaging as I > can. Ask for help with the p

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: JRuby 1.7 - JRuby is an alternative Ruby implementation

2013-01-24 Thread Vít Ondruch
Dne 23.1.2013 18:59, Miloslav Trmač napsal(a): On Wed, Jan 16, 2013 at 2:05 PM, Jaroslav Reznik wrote: = Features/JRuby 1.7 = https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/JRuby_1.7 What should "/usr/bin/ruby" point to? During standard Gem packaging process, the executable files in Gems get sheba

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: KScreen - KDE screen management

2013-01-24 Thread Daniel Vrátil
On Wednesday 23 of January 2013 16:32:41 Bill Nottingham wrote: > Jaroslav Reznik (jrez...@redhat.com) said: > > = Features/KScreen > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/KScreen > > > > Feature owner(s): Dan Vrátil > > > > Replace current KDE screen management software by KScreen. > > > > ==

Re: drop inheritance at f19 branch point?

2013-01-24 Thread Vít Ondruch
Dne 23.1.2013 22:38, Lennart Poettering napsal(a): On Wed, 23.01.13 14:20, Kevin Fenzi (ke...@scrye.com) wrote: I know we have discussed this before, but I've filed a FESCo ticket to ask them one way or another about the issue: https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/ticket/1005 Feedback welcome. If y

Re: drop inheritance at f19 branch point?

2013-01-24 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 10:38:00AM +0100, Vít Ondruch wrote: > And I disagree with this proposal. > > It is mixed for me. Sometimes, I'd like to update in Rawhide, > especially if the freeze is taking long, while in other cases, I > need to do some bugfix in my packages which is found during testi

Re: Fedora Windows Spice/Virtio KVM drivers and tools (was Re: Red Hat QXL GPU Driver for Windows 7?)

2013-01-24 Thread Christophe Fergeau
On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 05:18:10PM +0100, Simone Caronni wrote: > On 23 January 2013 16:11, Christophe Fergeau wrote: > > > > 1) Recent version from Fedora in iso format > > > - No WHQL, no changelog, no QXL drivers, no Spice Agent available, no > > source > > > > Err, there are sources, see > >

Re: [rawhide] ideas to improve rawhide

2013-01-24 Thread Daniel P. Berrange
On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 02:23:01PM -0700, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > On Wed, 23 Jan 2013 20:02:44 + > "Daniel P. Berrange" wrote: > > > If the deps provided by a new build have changed, then verify that > > the change deps don't cause breakage. If they do, then do not allow > > the new build into t

Re: Fedora Windows Spice/Virtio KVM drivers and tools (was Re: Red Hat QXL GPU Driver for Windows 7?)

2013-01-24 Thread Simone Caronni
Hello, On 24 January 2013 11:31, Christophe Fergeau wrote: > http://www.linux-kvm.org/page/WindowsGuestDrivers/Download_Drivers > My understanding is that they are based on the git repo linked there if > this is the information you want. > Unfortunately no, they're totally different than the on

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Shared System Certificates

2013-01-24 Thread Stef Walter
On 01/24/2013 09:12 AM, Florian Weimer wrote: > On 01/23/2013 04:05 PM, Jaroslav Reznik wrote: > >> OpenSSL: p11-kit tool will extract trusted certificate PEM blocks >> from the >> PKCS#11 trust module. >> These extracted certificates will be placed in a location so >> that

[Bug 903601] New: perl-Locale-SubCountry-1.59 is available

2013-01-24 Thread bugzilla
Product: Fedora https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=903601 Bug ID: 903601 Summary: perl-Locale-SubCountry-1.59 is available Product: Fedora Version: rawhide Component: perl-Locale-SubCountry Keywords: FutureFeature, Triaged

Re: Fedora Windows Spice/Virtio KVM drivers and tools (was Re: Red Hat QXL GPU Driver for Windows 7?)

2013-01-24 Thread Christophe Fergeau
On Sat, Jan 12, 2013 at 07:59:24PM +0100, Erik van Pienbroek wrote: > Richard W.M. Jones schreef op za 12-01-2013 om 01:24 [+]: > > Do the virtio drivers now build using the mingw-* stack in Fedora? > > IIRC this should be possible now that Fedora has switched over to > > using mingw-w64. > >

Re: drop inheritance at f19 branch point?

2013-01-24 Thread Vít Ondruch
Dne 24.1.2013 11:22, Richard W.M. Jones napsal(a): On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 10:38:00AM +0100, Vít Ondruch wrote: And I disagree with this proposal. It is mixed for me. Sometimes, I'd like to update in Rawhide, especially if the freeze is taking long, while in other cases, I need to do some bugfi

Remove retired packages

2013-01-24 Thread Vít Ondruch
Dne 23.1.2013 21:04, Bruno Wolff III napsal(a): One possiblity here would be to create a special package that obsoletes all of the dropped packages from the last release (or two depending on how far back you want to yum update from). Actually, this is cool idea IMO. Why this package does not e

[Bug 903606] perl-Test-Compile-0.23 is available

2013-01-24 Thread bugzilla
Product: Fedora https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=903606 Petr Šabata changed: What|Removed |Added Status|NEW |ASSIGNED C

Re: orphaning dblatex to allow a new maintainer

2013-01-24 Thread Michael J Gruber
Alex Lancaster venit, vidit, dixit 24.01.2013 00:55: > Hi there, > > As I don't use this package much anymore, I am dropping back to > co-maintainership > and orphaning dblatex to let somebody else be the primary owner, see: > > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/acls/name/dblatex > > It's

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: KScreen - KDE screen management

2013-01-24 Thread Neal Becker
Daniel Vrátil wrote: > On Wednesday 23 of January 2013 16:32:41 Bill Nottingham wrote: >> Jaroslav Reznik (jrez...@redhat.com) said: >> > = Features/KScreen = >> > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/KScreen >> > >> > Feature owner(s): Dan Vrátil >> > >> > Replace current KDE screen managem

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Java 8

2013-01-24 Thread Stephen Gallagher
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed 23 Jan 2013 03:27:51 PM EST, Deepak Bhole wrote: > * Stephen Gallagher [2013-01-23 15:22]: >> On Wed 23 Jan 2013 02:53:30 PM EST, Jaroslav Reznik wrote: >>> = Features/Java8TechPreview = >>> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/Java8TechPrev

Re: Remove retired packages

2013-01-24 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Thu, 24 Jan 2013 13:13:09 +0100, Vít Ondruch wrote: > Dne 23.1.2013 21:04, Bruno Wolff III napsal(a): > > One possiblity here would be to create a special package that > > obsoletes all of the dropped packages from the last release (or two > > depending on how far back you want to yum update

[Bug 903609] perl-XML-LibXSLT-1.80 is available

2013-01-24 Thread bugzilla
Product: Fedora https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=903609 Petr Šabata changed: What|Removed |Added Depends On||903639 --- Comment #1 from

[Bug 903609] perl-XML-LibXSLT-1.80 is available

2013-01-24 Thread bugzilla
Product: Fedora https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=903609 --- Comment #2 from Petr Šabata --- Built in rawhide, perl-XML-LibXSLT-1.80-1.fc19. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug. Unsubscribe from this bug https://bugzilla.redhat.com/token.cgi?t=6

rawhide report: 20130124 changes

2013-01-24 Thread Fedora Rawhide Report
Compose started at Thu Jan 24 08:15:08 UTC 2013 Broken deps for x86_64 -- [bootconf] bootconf-1.4-6.fc18.noarch requires grub [epiphany-extensions] epiphany-extensions-3.6.0-1.fc19.x86_64 requires epiphany(abi) = 0:3.6 [fatrat

Re: Packaging Lightzone: A RAW Photo Editor

2013-01-24 Thread Matthew Miller
On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 04:49:40PM -0500, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > https://github.com/AntonKast/LightZone > Anyone interested? I'm interested in having it, and in helping test -- this was great software back in the day, and it's awesome to see it as open source. My java-fu is not great, however. -

Re: drop inheritance at f19 branch point?

2013-01-24 Thread Marcela Mašláňová
On 01/24/2013 04:31 AM, Lennart Poettering wrote: On Thu, 24.01.13 03:54, Till Maas (opensou...@till.name) wrote: On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 10:38:30PM +0100, Lennart Poettering wrote: On Wed, 23.01.13 14:20, Kevin Fenzi (ke...@scrye.com) wrote: I know we have discussed this before, but I've fi

Re: drop inheritance at f19 branch point?

2013-01-24 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 13:06:21 +0100, Vít Ondruch wrote: It definitely depends on package. I should be the one who knows about my packages the best if there is some breaking potential. Every time you don't do an update in rawhide and rely on inheritence, the changes that go out to updat

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: systemd/udev Predictable Network Interface Names

2013-01-24 Thread Matthew Miller
On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 12:28:59AM +0100, Lennart Poettering wrote: > That inventing your own numbering is a problem manifests itself in bugs > like this: > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=782145#c21 Okay, I can see that. Still, I wish there were a greater attempt to maintain similar n

Re: drop inheritance at f19 branch point?

2013-01-24 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 01:06:21PM +0100, Vít Ondruch wrote: > Dne 24.1.2013 11:22, Richard W.M. Jones napsal(a): > >The flip side of this is that when you *don't* build in Rawhide you > >potentially push work and breakage to somebody else. Your package may > >not build in Rawhide, leaving someone

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: KScreen - KDE screen management

2013-01-24 Thread Daniel Vrátil
On Thursday 24 of January 2013 07:58:41 Neal Becker wrote: > Daniel Vrátil wrote: > > On Wednesday 23 of January 2013 16:32:41 Bill Nottingham wrote: > >> Jaroslav Reznik (jrez...@redhat.com) said: > >> > = Features/KScreen > >> > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/KScreen > >> > > >> > Featur

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Fedora Upgrade - using yum

2013-01-24 Thread Matthew Miller
On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 10:14:28PM -0800, Adam Williamson wrote: > (As a side note, I would like to avoid describing fedup as 'officially > supported' and describe it instead as 'officially recommended' - it's an > important semantic difference, I think.) Because we don't "officially support" anyt

Re: Remove retired packages

2013-01-24 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 14:18:25 +0100, Michael Schwendt wrote: On Thu, 24 Jan 2013 13:13:09 +0100, Vít Ondruch wrote: It has been suggested, discussed and rejected many years ago. Here's one thread from 2007, https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-extras-list/2007-March/msg00089.html and

Re: Remove retired packages

2013-01-24 Thread Matthew Miller
On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 02:18:25PM +0100, Michael Schwendt wrote: > > Actually, this is cool idea IMO. Why this package does not exist yet? > > Rel-engs has to have list of blocked packages already, so it should be > > easy to convert it into .spec. > It has been suggested, discussed and rejected

Re: Stalled review of pg_journal

2013-01-24 Thread Tomasz Torcz
On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 11:53:57AM +0100, Michael Schwendt wrote: > On Wed, 23 Jan 2013 11:41:09 +0100, Tomasz Torcz wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > There is some stall with the review of pg_journal: > > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=856560 > > which is journal-logging add-on for Postg

Re: Reproposed F19 Feature: Fix Network Name Resolution [Was: DualstackNetworking]

2013-01-24 Thread Pedro Alves
On 01/23/2013 07:31 PM, John Reiser wrote: > On 01/23/2013 10:35 AM, Dan Williams wrote: >> On Wed, 2013-01-23 at 09:48 -0800, John Reiser wrote: > >>> The signal handler can write a packet into a pipe from the process to >>> itself, >>> and that can be hooked up to an event loop API. > >> Clear

Re: drop inheritance at f19 branch point?

2013-01-24 Thread Vít Ondruch
Dne 24.1.2013 14:40, Bruno Wolff III napsal(a): On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 13:06:21 +0100, Vít Ondruch wrote: It definitely depends on package. I should be the one who knows about my packages the best if there is some breaking potential. Every time you don't do an update in rawhide and rely

Re: Remove retired packages

2013-01-24 Thread Vít Ondruch
Dne 24.1.2013 14:18, Michael Schwendt napsal(a): On Thu, 24 Jan 2013 13:13:09 +0100, Vít Ondruch wrote: Dne 23.1.2013 21:04, Bruno Wolff III napsal(a): One possiblity here would be to create a special package that obsoletes all of the dropped packages from the last release (or two depending on

Proposed F19 Feature: MEMSTOMP

2013-01-24 Thread Jaroslav Reznik
= Features/MEMSTOMP = https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/MEMSTOMP Feature owner(s): Jeff Law Include the MEMSTOMP DSOs in Fedora 19 to enable developers to more quickly detect certain library calls which result in undefined behaviour due to overlapping memory arguments. == Detailed descr

Proposed F19 Feature: NFStest

2013-01-24 Thread Jaroslav Reznik
= Features/NFStest = https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/NFStest Feature owner(s): Steve Dickson Provides a set of tools for testing either the NFS client or the NFS server, most of the functionality is focused mainly on testing the client. == Detailed description == NFStest provides a

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Fedora Upgrade - using yum

2013-01-24 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, Adam Williamson said: > Several knowledgeable developers have asserted that - while it often > happens to work out okay - online upgrading is an inherently dangerous > operation, I don't see that the limited amount of validation QA is able > to offer can possibly gainsay them. T

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Fedora Upgrade - using yum

2013-01-24 Thread Miroslav Suchý
On 01/23/2013 07:50 PM, Lennart Poettering wrote: The thing is that doing on-line updates only works for stuff you can restart, and that doesn't mind that things are not atomically updated. However, much (most?) of our code isn't like that. Anybody who What could not be restarted? And what we c

Re: [rawhide] ideas to improve rawhide

2013-01-24 Thread Björn Persson
Kevin Fenzi wrote: > build finishes for f19, lands in a f19-pending > autoqa runs on the package, if it passes, tag it in to f19 > if it doesn't, mail maintainer/etc about it. > If there's some compelling reason it has to land, the maintainer can > override and tag into f19 directly. (and then exp

[perl-Module-ExtractUse] Created tag perl-Module-ExtractUse-0.28-1.fc17

2013-01-24 Thread Paul Howarth
The lightweight tag 'perl-Module-ExtractUse-0.28-1.fc17' was created pointing to: fc78169... Update to 0.28 -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl perl-devel mailing list perl-de...@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/per

Re: [rawhide] ideas to improve rawhide

2013-01-24 Thread Daniel P. Berrange
On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 03:54:33PM +0100, Björn Persson wrote: > Kevin Fenzi wrote: > > build finishes for f19, lands in a f19-pending > > autoqa runs on the package, if it passes, tag it in to f19 > > if it doesn't, mail maintainer/etc about it. > > If there's some compelling reason it has to lan

Start of systemd timers after install/update of a package

2013-01-24 Thread Jochen Schmitt
Hello, I have tried to migrating the cron jobs of the inn package to systemd timers. Unfortunately, I have got the following problem. After a install/update of the package the timer will only start the service unit only once time. The service was not started after the configure period was expired.

Re: [rawhide] ideas to improve rawhide

2013-01-24 Thread Frank Murphy
On Wed, 23 Jan 2013 09:55:07 -0700 Kevin Fenzi wrote: > Greetings. > > As some of you may know, I switched my laptop over to rawhide and > have been posting a series of blogs about the various issues I have > run into in the last month. > As a non-Dev, but running rawhide. Hence reply here.

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: systemd/udev Predictable Network Interface Names

2013-01-24 Thread John Reiser
On 01/23/2013 01:54 PM, Bill Nottingham wrote: > This code has the benefit of: > - covering more device types (not just BIOSes with type 9 & type 41) > - not attempting to do heuristics that name devices via enumeration > > However, it does have the large disadvantage of changing the namespace us

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Replace MySQL with MariaDB

2013-01-24 Thread Remi Collet
Le 24/01/2013 02:49, Andrew Rist a écrit : > We've been following the discussions to replace MySQL with MariaDB ... /me speaking from my experience. I don't maintain MySQL, but various other mysql packages (mysql-utilities, mysql-connector-python, mysql-workbench, ...). Maintaining Oracle stuff

Orphaning drobo-utils

2013-01-24 Thread Jameson
I no longer have any Drobo hardware setup, so if anyone would like to take over maintaining this package feel free. Thanks, =-Jameson -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

[perl-Pod-Wordlist-hanekomu] Created tag perl-Pod-Wordlist-hanekomu-1.130240-1.fc19

2013-01-24 Thread Paul Howarth
The lightweight tag 'perl-Pod-Wordlist-hanekomu-1.130240-1.fc19' was created pointing to: bddb35b... Update 1.130240 -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl perl-devel mailing list perl-de...@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/lis

Re: Status to make btsfs to the standard filesystem of Fedora

2013-01-24 Thread Ric Wheeler
On 01/23/2013 03:53 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: On Wed, 2013-01-23 at 12:08 -0800, Adam Williamson wrote: Mistakenly left this paragraph incomplete, completion follows: I understand that btrfs is a Different Way Of Doing Things, but I don't think it flies to tell people 'yeah, the tools you've

[perl-Package-Stash] BR: perl(Package::Anon) if we have Perl ≥ 5.14

2013-01-24 Thread Paul Howarth
commit 5c0d64b718d169434a799e34fa2171636fdaa59c Author: Paul Howarth Date: Thu Jan 24 15:24:51 2013 + BR: perl(Package::Anon) if we have Perl ≥ 5.14 perl-Package-Stash.spec | 10 +++--- 1 files changed, 7 insertions(+), 3 deletions(-) --- diff --git a/perl-Package-Stash.spec b/p

Proposed F19 Feature: GLIBC 2.17

2013-01-24 Thread Jaroslav Reznik
= Features/GLIBC217 = https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/GLIBC217 Feature owner(s): Jeff Law Switch GLIBC in Fedora 19 to GLIBC version 2.17. == Detailed description == GLIBC 2.17 was released at the end of 2012; we have been closely tracking the GLIBC 2.17 development code in Fedora Ra

Re: Status to make btsfs to the standard filesystem of Fedora

2013-01-24 Thread Reartes Guillermo
http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.file-systems.btrfs/22555 (Quota reached: can't delete) When you reach a quota limit, the first intuitive action one takes is to delete something to make space. But aparently (and currently) with btrfs one needs to change the quota and then delete. I have not yet

[perl-Package-Stash] Created tag perl-Package-Stash-0.34-2.fc19

2013-01-24 Thread Paul Howarth
The lightweight tag 'perl-Package-Stash-0.34-2.fc19' was created pointing to: 5c0d64b... BR: perl(Package::Anon) if we have Perl ≥ 5.14 -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl perl-devel mailing list perl-de...@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproje

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Shared System Certificates

2013-01-24 Thread Kai Engert
On Wed, 2013-01-23 at 16:31 -0500, Bill Nottingham wrote: > Essentially, how will we know whether apps work transparently with the > library changes, and/or if there are apps that are hardcoding old > locations/methods somewhere? Bill, we're not yet ready to shake hands, we're starting and giv

Re: Remove retired packages

2013-01-24 Thread Michael scherer
On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 01:13:09PM +0100, Vít Ondruch wrote: > Dne 23.1.2013 21:04, Bruno Wolff III napsal(a): > >One possiblity here would be to create a special package that > >obsoletes all of the dropped packages from the last release (or > >two depending on how far back you want to yum update

Re: Start of systemd timers after install/update of a package

2013-01-24 Thread Tomas Mraz
On Thu, 2013-01-24 at 16:03 +0100, Jochen Schmitt wrote: > Hello, > > I have tried to migrating the cron jobs of the inn package to systemd timers. > Unfortunately, I have got the following problem. After a install/update of the > package the timer will only start the service unit only once time.

Re: [rawhide] ideas to improve rawhide

2013-01-24 Thread Björn Persson
Daniel P. Berrange wrote: > Delaying a new package > while we fix broken deps by rebuilding things that were broken > is a *good* thing - provided we have a means to ensure the > downstream rebuilds can be performed without being delayed > by non-responsive maintainers. In principle it should be p

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: systemd/udev Predictable Network Interface Names

2013-01-24 Thread Jóhann B. Guðmundsson
On 01/24/2013 03:17 PM, John Reiser wrote: On 01/23/2013 01:54 PM, Bill Nottingham wrote: This code has the benefit of: - covering more device types (not just BIOSes with type 9 & type 41) - not attempting to do heuristics that name devices via enumeration However, it does have the large disad

Re: Start of systemd timers after install/update of a package

2013-01-24 Thread Michal Schmidt
On 01/24/2013 04:03 PM, Jochen Schmitt wrote: The service was not started after the configure period was expired. Was the timer unit active? What does "systemctl status yourunit.timer" show? Michal -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/lis

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Checkpoint/Restore

2013-01-24 Thread Adrian Reber
On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 03:37:46PM -0500, Josh Boyer wrote: > On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 2:35 PM, Jaroslav Reznik wrote: > > To offer the checkpoint/restore functionality the package crtools has been > > imported into Fedora and changes are still necessary to the kernel RPM. > > The CRIU page doesn'

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Checkpoint/Restore

2013-01-24 Thread Josh Boyer
On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 10:58 AM, Adrian Reber wrote: > On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 03:37:46PM -0500, Josh Boyer wrote: >> On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 2:35 PM, Jaroslav Reznik wrote: >> > To offer the checkpoint/restore functionality the package crtools has been >> > imported into Fedora and changes are

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Checkpoint/Restore

2013-01-24 Thread Adrian Reber
On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 02:55:53PM -0500, Matthew Miller wrote: > On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 07:35:50PM +, Jaroslav Reznik wrote: > > To offer the checkpoint/restore functionality the package crtools has been > > imported into Fedora and changes are still necessary to the kernel RPM. > > Is this

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: JRuby 1.7 - JRuby is an alternative Ruby implementation

2013-01-24 Thread Bill Nottingham
Bohuslav Kabrda (bkab...@redhat.com) said: > JRuby and Ruby won't share extensions. Extensions for Ruby will live in > %{_libdir}/gems/ruby, while extensions for JRuby will in > %{_datadir}/gems/jruby (although we decided not to actually ship any JRuby > extension Gems for F19 as we want to tak

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Checkpoint/Restore

2013-01-24 Thread Adrian Reber
On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 11:02:57AM -0500, Josh Boyer wrote: > On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 10:58 AM, Adrian Reber wrote: > > On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 03:37:46PM -0500, Josh Boyer wrote: > >> On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 2:35 PM, Jaroslav Reznik > >> wrote: > >> > To offer the checkpoint/restore functionali

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Checkpoint/Restore

2013-01-24 Thread Adrian Reber
On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 11:02:57AM -0500, Josh Boyer wrote: > > CONFIG_NAMESPACES seems to be required to make all those activated _NS > > options actually enabled: > > > > config-generic:CONFIG_PID_NS=y > > config-generic:CONFIG_UTS_NS=y > > config-generic:CONFIG_IPC_NS=y > > config-generic:CONFIG

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: systemd/udev Predictable Network Interface Names

2013-01-24 Thread Michal Schmidt
On 01/24/2013 04:17 PM, John Reiser wrote: Another cause for concern by users is the maintenance record of systemd: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=841822 pungi can't create installable media with F17 + updates For about five months from July through December 2012 The Bodhi p

[389-devel] please review: Ticket 562 - Crash when deleting suffix

2013-01-24 Thread Mark Reynolds
https://fedorahosted.org/389/ticket/562 https://fedorahosted.org/389/attachment/ticket/562/0001-Ticket-562-Crash-when-deleting-suffix.patch -- Mark Reynolds Red Hat, Inc mreyno...@redhat.com -- 389-devel mailing list 389-de...@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/list

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Shared System Certificates

2013-01-24 Thread Bill Nottingham
Kai Engert (k...@kuix.de) said: > On Wed, 2013-01-23 at 16:31 -0500, Bill Nottingham wrote: > > Essentially, how will we know whether apps work transparently with the > > library changes, and/or if there are apps that are hardcoding old > > locations/methods somewhere? > > we're not yet ready to

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: First-Class Cloud Images

2013-01-24 Thread Bill Nottingham
Matthew Miller (mat...@fedoraproject.org) said: > On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 04:38:13PM -0500, Bill Nottingham wrote: > > > == Detailed description == > > > * New images that can be used in other cloud deployments (such as > > > OpenStack, CloudStack, or Eucalyptus) will be produced. They will b

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Fedora Upgrade - using yum

2013-01-24 Thread Bill Nottingham
Miroslav Suchý (msu...@redhat.com) said: > On 01/23/2013 07:50 PM, Lennart Poettering wrote: > >The thing is that doing on-line updates only works for stuff you can > >restart, and that doesn't mind that things are not atomically > >updated. However, much (most?) of our code isn't like that. Anybo

File Locale-SubCountry-1.59.tar.gz uploaded to lookaside cache by ppisar

2013-01-24 Thread Petr Pisar
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[perl-Locale-SubCountry] 1.59 bump

2013-01-24 Thread Petr Pisar
commit 5ac4e7e0636cdf82b306b35bde238c30e628784b Author: Petr Písař Date: Thu Jan 24 17:23:55 2013 +0100 1.59 bump .gitignore |1 + perl-Locale-SubCountry.spec | 10 +++--- sources |2 +- 3 files changed, 9 insertions(+), 4 deletions(-) --

[perl-Locale-SubCountry/f18] 1.59 bump

2013-01-24 Thread Petr Pisar
Summary of changes: 5ac4e7e... 1.59 bump (*) (*) This commit already existed in another branch; no separate mail sent -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl perl-devel mailing list perl-de...@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/l

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Ryu - Network Operating System

2013-01-24 Thread Pete Zaitcev
On Thu, 24 Jan 2013 12:20:01 +0900 Isaku Yamahata wrote: > I suppose you're talking about the difference from plain Open vSwitch plugin. > Plain OVS plugin doesn't use OpenFlow controller. So it's rather static and > utilizes small subset of OVS. For example, it doesn't react to network usage >

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Shared System Certificates

2013-01-24 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 01/23/2013 07:05 AM, Jaroslav Reznik wrote: = Features/SharedSystemCertificates = https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/SharedSystemCertificates Feature owner(s): Kai Engert , Stef Walter Make NSS, GnuTLS, OpenSSL and Java share a default source for retrieving system certificate anchors a

Re: Start of systemd timers after install/update of a package

2013-01-24 Thread Bill Nottingham
Tomas Mraz (tm...@redhat.com) said: > On Thu, 2013-01-24 at 16:03 +0100, Jochen Schmitt wrote: > > Hello, > > > > I have tried to migrating the cron jobs of the inn package to systemd > > timers. > > Unfortunately, I have got the following problem. After a install/update of > > the > > package

[Bug 903601] perl-Locale-SubCountry-1.59 is available

2013-01-24 Thread bugzilla
Product: Fedora https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=903601 --- Comment #1 from Petr Pisar --- This is bug-fix release suitable for F≥18. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug. Unsubscribe from this bug https://bugzilla.redhat.com/token.cgi?t=bnGqMfF

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: systemd/udev Predictable Network Interface Names

2013-01-24 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Thu, 24.01.13 07:17, John Reiser (jrei...@bitwagon.com) wrote: > On 01/23/2013 01:54 PM, Bill Nottingham wrote: > > > This code has the benefit of: > > - covering more device types (not just BIOSes with type 9 & type 41) > > - not attempting to do heuristics that name devices via enumeration >

[perl-Locale-SubCountry/f17] 1.59 bump

2013-01-24 Thread Petr Pisar
commit c1929f6db05069f50f31b593fb328ba1446edb4d Author: Petr Písař Date: Thu Jan 24 17:23:55 2013 +0100 1.59 bump .gitignore |1 + perl-Locale-SubCountry.spec | 10 +++--- sources |2 +- 3 files changed, 9 insertions(+), 4 deletions(-) --

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: First-Class Cloud Images

2013-01-24 Thread Daniel P. Berrange
On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 11:19:16AM -0500, Bill Nottingham wrote: > Matthew Miller (mat...@fedoraproject.org) said: > > On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 04:38:13PM -0500, Bill Nottingham wrote: > > > > == Detailed description == > > > > * New images that can be used in other cloud deployments (such as

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Shared System Certificates

2013-01-24 Thread Kai Engert
On Thu, 2013-01-24 at 08:27 -0800, Samuel Sieb wrote: > On 01/23/2013 07:05 AM, Jaroslav Reznik wrote: > > = Features/SharedSystemCertificates = > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/SharedSystemCertificates > > > > Feature owner(s): Kai Engert , Stef Walter > > > > > > Make NSS, GnuTLS, O

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2013-01-24 Thread Petr Pisar
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Static Analysis: results of FUDcon Lawrence hackfest

2013-01-24 Thread David Malcolm
Michael Hrivnak and I spent some time at FUDcon Lawrence looking at static code analysis. We hacked on the proposed common format for analysis tools (aka "firehose"). We now have parsers (and test suites) for coercing the following into a common format: * gcc warnings * "cppcheck" warnings (spe

[perl-PPIx-Regexp] 0.030 bump

2013-01-24 Thread Petr Pisar
commit 7f75ba4d23671cc3de3a85d00465cbbc11e73a2f Author: Petr Písař Date: Thu Jan 24 17:43:45 2013 +0100 0.030 bump .gitignore|1 + perl-PPIx-Regexp.spec |7 +-- sources |2 +- 3 files changed, 7 insertions(+), 3 deletions(-) --- diff --git a/.giti

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: First-Class Cloud Images

2013-01-24 Thread Matthew Miller
On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 04:33:59PM +, Daniel P. Berrange wrote: > > Have the boxes and libvirt people investigated writing a minimal > > cloud-init compatibile data-source? > I don't recall us ever talking about it, but it could be something to > investigate. I've been meaning to suggest the i

[Bug 903601] perl-Locale-SubCountry-1.59 is available

2013-01-24 Thread bugzilla
Product: Fedora https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=903601 Petr Pisar changed: What|Removed |Added Status|ASSIGNED|MODIFIED Fixed In Version

[Bug 903601] perl-Locale-SubCountry-1.59 is available

2013-01-24 Thread bugzilla
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[Bug 903601] perl-Locale-SubCountry-1.59 is available

2013-01-24 Thread bugzilla
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[Bug 903605] perl-PPIx-Regexp-0.030 is available

2013-01-24 Thread bugzilla
Product: Fedora https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=903605 Petr Pisar changed: What|Removed |Added Status|ASSIGNED|CLOSED Fixed In Version|

Re: Static Analysis: results of FUDcon Lawrence hackfest

2013-01-24 Thread Jerry James
On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 9:44 AM, David Malcolm wrote: > * packaging more static analyzers in Fedora (e.g. has anyone looked at > Frama-C ?) Frama-C has been in Fedora for nearly 3 years now. :-) I'm very interested in this topic. I tried packaging BLAST at one point, but ran into insurmountable

Re: drop inheritance at f19 branch point?

2013-01-24 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Thu, 24.01.13 08:27, Frank Murphy (frankl...@gmail.com) wrote: > On Thu, 24 Jan 2013 04:31:03 +0100 > Lennart Poettering wrote: > > > > You know, I really dislike packaging things. I love hacking. If I > > package something then that's an ugly side effect of what I really > > want to do. And

Re: drop inheritance at f19 branch point?

2013-01-24 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Thu, 24.01.13 10:22, Richard W.M. Jones (rjo...@redhat.com) wrote: > On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 10:38:00AM +0100, Vít Ondruch wrote: > > And I disagree with this proposal. > > > > It is mixed for me. Sometimes, I'd like to update in Rawhide, > > especially if the freeze is taking long, while in o

wayland and broadway support in gtk

2013-01-24 Thread Matthias Clasen
Hi, I'm tentatively planning to enable the Wayland and Broadway backends in GTK+ for f19. From a quick test build, this adds 3 library dependencies to gtk (libwayland-client, libwayland-cursor and libxkbcommon), and the size of libgdk grows from ~550k to ~700k. I think this is not a terrible b

Re: Static Analysis: results of FUDcon Lawrence hackfest

2013-01-24 Thread Alec Leamas
On 2013-01-24 17:44, David Malcolm wrote: Michael Hrivnak and I spent some time at FUDcon Lawrence looking at static code analysis. We hacked on the proposed common format for analysis tools (aka "firehose"). [cut] The plan is that the interchange format can be uploaded into a web UI/databas

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Fedora Upgrade - using yum

2013-01-24 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Wed, 23.01.13 22:17, Adam Williamson (awill...@redhat.com) wrote: > On Wed, 2013-01-23 at 19:47 -0600, Bruno Wolff III wrote: > > On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 22:47:18 +, > >"\"Jóhann B. Guðmundsson\"" wrote: > > >b) > > > > > >We QA have alot of QA community members testing this so this do

Re: wayland and broadway support in gtk

2013-01-24 Thread Ilyes Gouta
Yes, please! It would be about the right time to start enabling Wayland in distributions. -Ilyes On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 6:10 PM, Matthias Clasen wrote: > Hi, > > I'm tentatively planning to enable the Wayland and Broadway backends in > GTK+ for f19. > > From a quick test build, this adds 3 l

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Fedora Upgrade - using yum

2013-01-24 Thread drago01
On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 6:11 PM, Lennart Poettering wrote: > On Wed, 23.01.13 22:17, Adam Williamson (awill...@redhat.com) wrote: > >> On Wed, 2013-01-23 at 19:47 -0600, Bruno Wolff III wrote: >> > On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 22:47:18 +, >> >"\"Jóhann B. Guðmundsson\"" wrote: >> > >b) >> > >

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