Re: systemd: Is it wrong?

2011-07-11 Thread Ric Wheeler
On 07/11/2011 02:22 AM, Steve Dickson wrote: > > On 07/10/2011 07:06 PM, Lennart Poettering wrote: >> On Sun, 10.07.11 13:32, Steve Dickson (ste...@redhat.com) wrote: >> >>> Hey, >>> >>> On 07/10/2011 11:32 AM, Matthew Garrett wrote: Improvement means change, and change will inevitably upset s

Re: systemd: Is it wrong?

2011-07-11 Thread Michal Schmidt
On Sun, 10 Jul 2011 20:49:56 -0400 Steve Dickson wrote: > Ok.. Now understand where my confusion is... Currently when one > want to start the nfs server they type 'service nfs start' which > calls a number of binaries and ultimately a system daemon. We could achieve something similar with systemd

Re: systemd: Is it wrong?

2011-07-11 Thread JB
Lennart Poettering 0pointer.de> writes: > ... I would like to verify the systemd's parallelism (or should we say concurrency in case of systemd ?) claim. Any parallelization possible to achieve thru configuration of service files ? What it would look like ? Let me take a shot at 2 examples of

Re: systemd: Is it wrong?

2011-07-11 Thread Jóhann B. Guðmundsson
On 07/11/2011 02:40 AM, Steve Dickson wrote: > I truly truly truly hope so... but at the end of the day... I > simply can't allow a new, untested (in a business environment) > package destabilize a technology that is used by a large number > of our community... The longer it takes to get a native

Re: systemd: Is it wrong?

2011-07-11 Thread drago01
On Sun, Jul 10, 2011 at 11:51 PM, Steve Clark wrote: > On 07/10/2011 05:35 PM, Matthew Garrett wrote: > > On Sun, Jul 10, 2011 at 03:56:25PM -0500, Chris Adams wrote: > > Once upon a time, Matthew Garrett said: > > The suggestion isn't that having the options is wrong > > Well, that's what you sa

Re: systemd: Is it wrong?

2011-07-11 Thread Jóhann B. Guðmundsson
On 07/11/2011 08:42 AM, Michal Schmidt wrote: > On Sun, 10 Jul 2011 20:49:56 -0400 Steve Dickson wrote: >> Ok.. Now understand where my confusion is... Currently when one >> want to start the nfs server they type 'service nfs start' which >> calls a number of binaries and ultimately a system daemon

Re: systemd: Is it wrong?

2011-07-11 Thread Michal Schmidt
On Mon, 11 Jul 2011 08:44:16 + (UTC) JB wrote: > Let me take a shot at 2 examples of service files below. > Are they correct setup-wise ? > Will both examples be executed sequentially only ? > > 1. > > main-service-1.service: > [Unit] > Description=Main service 1 > Requires= ... sub-service-

Re: systemd: Is it wrong?

2011-07-11 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 11.07.2011 02:49, schrieb Steve Dickson: > My point it this. You are changing the meaning of 'service'. People > expect a service to be just that as service. When one starts a > service all the needed daemons are started and all the configuration > is done once the service is started. > >

Re: systemd: Is it wrong? -> wrong order

2011-07-11 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 11.07.2011 04:51, schrieb Matthew Garrett: >> I truly truly truly hope so... but at the end of the day... I >> simply can't allow a new, untested (in a business environment) >> package destabilize a technology that is used by a large number >> of our community... > > If it's impossible to mak

Re: systemd: Is it wrong?

2011-07-11 Thread JB
Michal Schmidt redhat.com> writes: > ... > > 1. > > > > main-service-1.service: > > [Unit] > > Description=Main service 1 > > Requires= ... sub-service-1.service sub-service-2.service > > After= ... sub-service-1.service sub-service-2.service > > ... > > [Service] > > Type=forking<-

Re: systemd: Is it wrong? -> wrong order

2011-07-11 Thread Florian Müllner
2011/7/11 Reindl Harald > my main critic on systemd shipped als default with F15 is that > widely used services like NFS are not converted to systemd > BEFORE systemd replaced upstart > Given that Fedora only used upstart with existing SysV scripts, upstart should not have been included in the f

Re: systemd: Is it wrong?

2011-07-11 Thread Matthew Garrett
On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 08:55:40AM +0200, Andreas Schwab wrote: > Matthew Garrett writes: > > > These scripts don't sanitise input beforehand. What happens if I'm > > logged in as root, change IFS and then do /etc/init.d/nfs restart? > > Nothing, because the shell always sets IFS to the default

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[perl-Inline-Files] 0.67 bump

2011-07-11 Thread Petr Sabata
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Re: systemd: Is it wrong?

2011-07-11 Thread Michal Schmidt
On 07/11/2011 01:08 PM, JB wrote: > Michal Schmidt redhat.com> writes: >> First, sub-service-1.service and sub-service-2.service will be started >> in parallel. When they're running, main-service-1.service will be >> started by processing its ExecStart* commands sequentially. >> ... > > OK. > Q:

rawhide report: 20110711 changes

2011-07-11 Thread Rawhide Report
Compose started at Mon Jul 11 08:15:32 UTC 2011 Broken deps for x86_64 -- 389-ds-base-1.2.9-0.2.a2.fc16.x86_64 requires libnetsnmp.so.25()(64bit) 389-ds-base-1.2.9-0.2.a2.fc16.x86_64 requires libnetsnmpmibs.so.25()(64bit)

Re: systemd: Is it wrong?

2011-07-11 Thread Michal Schmidt
On 07/11/2011 10:46 AM, Reindl Harald wrote: > the same problem with the logic "if there is a svcname.socket" > you have to do "systemctl stop svcname.socket svcname.service" > or systemd wil fire up it again if you do only > "systemctl stop svcname" > > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=

Re: systemd: Is it wrong?

2011-07-11 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, drago01 said: > Do you configure your webbrowser by passing command line arguments > and/or editing its source code? As a matter of fact, I do use command line arguments to my web browser. I have several different Firefox profiles set up (regular use, web dev, clean for testing,

Re: systemd: Is it wrong?

2011-07-11 Thread JB
Michal Schmidt redhat.com> writes: > ... > > 2. > > main-service-2.service: > > [Unit] > > Description=Main service 2 > > After= ... > > ... > > [Service] > > Type=forking<-- any other type too ? > > ExecStartPre= exec /etc/init.d/sub-service-1 > > ExecStartPre= exec /etc/ini

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Re: systemd: Is it wrong?

2011-07-11 Thread Michal Schmidt
On 07/11/2011 02:56 PM, JB wrote: >>> ExecStartPre= exec /etc/init.d/sub-service-1 > Note the 'exec' command, which means "Replace the shell with the given > command." with immediate return. > How does systemd know what's in the "/etc/init.d/sub-service-1" process, to be > able to figure out if any

Re: systemd: Is it wrong?

2011-07-11 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Sun, 10.07.11 20:49, Steve Dickson (ste...@redhat.com) wrote: > >> So basically what you are saying is a service can never consist of > >> more than one system daemon. > > > > Well, it can, but we encourage you not to do this. > > > > The word "service" is mostly used synonymously with "dae

Re: systemd: Is it wrong? -> wrong order

2011-07-11 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Mon, 11.07.11 10:57, Reindl Harald (h.rei...@thelounge.net) wrote: > Am 11.07.2011 04:51, schrieb Matthew Garrett: > > >> I truly truly truly hope so... but at the end of the day... I > >> simply can't allow a new, untested (in a business environment) > >> package destabilize a technology tha

glibc 2.14-4 eats my data (Re: F15 ext3, eCryptfs + samba = data corruption (Re: F15 "Error mounting eCryptfs: [-5] Input/output error" on different disks))

2011-07-11 Thread Michał Piotrowski
CC'ing devel -- Wiadomość przekazana dalej -- Od: Michał Piotrowski Data: 9 lipca 2011 10:59 Temat: Re: glibc 2.14-4 eats my data (Re: F15 ext3, eCryptfs + samba = data corruption (Re: F15 "Error mounting eCryptfs: [-5] Input/output error" on different disks)) Do: Michal Hlavinka

Re: systemd: Is it wrong?

2011-07-11 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Sun, 10.07.11 23:14, Steve Dickson (ste...@redhat.com) wrote: > On 07/10/2011 10:58 PM, Garry T. Williams wrote: > > On Sunday, July 10, 2011 22:40:51 Steve Dickson wrote: > >> So did that "elaborate process of acceptance" include the Fedora > >> community or maybe the Linux community or possib

Re: systemd: Is it wrong?

2011-07-11 Thread Mathieu Bridon
On Mon, 2011-07-11 at 01:21 +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote: > Our documentation is really good and relatively comprehensive (as > many people will happily acknowledge I am sure). I'm acknowledging that. However that's also perhaps its weak point: the systemd documentation is too comprehensive (i

Re: systemd: Is it wrong?

2011-07-11 Thread Miloslav Trmač
On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 3:58 PM, Lennart Poettering wrote: > On Sun, 10.07.11 20:49, Steve Dickson (ste...@redhat.com) wrote: >> > The word "service" is mostly used synonymously with "daemon" in the >> > systemd context, and we prefer if people write one service file for each >> > daemon, as this

Re: systemd: Is it wrong?

2011-07-11 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Mon, 11.07.11 16:32, Miloslav Trmač (m...@volny.cz) wrote: > > On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 3:58 PM, Lennart Poettering > wrote: > > On Sun, 10.07.11 20:49, Steve Dickson (ste...@redhat.com) wrote: > >> > The word "service" is mostly used synonymously with "daemon" in the > >> > systemd context, a

Plan for today's FESCo meeting (2011-7-11)

2011-07-11 Thread Adam Jackson
(Apologies for short notice, for some reason I wasn't thinking about Fedora on the weekend.) Following is the list of topics that will be discussed in the FESCo meeting today at 17:00UTC (1:00pm EDT) in #fedora-meeting on irc.freenode.net. Links to all tickets below can be found at: https://fedo

Re: Deprecating portreserve

2011-07-11 Thread Tim Waugh
The BMC thing sounds a bit more special-purpose than portreserve, and presumably could be done in its own package that could perhaps be installed as needed depending on the hardware. So is the next step to deprecate portreserve? What actually needs to be done for that to happen? Tim. */ signa

Re: glibc 2.14-4 eats my data (Re: F15 ext3, eCryptfs + samba = data corruption (Re: F15 "Error mounting eCryptfs: [-5] Input/output error" on different disks))

2011-07-11 Thread Michal Hlavinka
W dniu 8 lipca 2011 18:21 użytkownik Michał Piotrowski napisał: > Hi, > > 2011/7/8 Andreas Schwab: >> Use valgrind. > > I attach valgrind output. > > ==1312== 1 errors in context 1 of 116: > ==1312== Source and destination overlap in memcpy(0xaef

Re: glibc 2.14-4 eats my data (Re: F15 ext3, eCryptfs + samba = data corruption (Re: F15 "Error mounting eCryptfs: [-5] Input/output error" on different disks))

2011-07-11 Thread Michał Piotrowski
Hi, W dniu 11 lipca 2011 17:09 użytkownik Michal Hlavinka napisał: > ok, complain about memcpy in ecryptfs-utils is gone. I've checked all of > them and I think I've fixed those which needed it. I was not able to > reproduce original problem nor valgrind complaint, so please test if > following p

Re: Deprecating portreserve

2011-07-11 Thread Jóhann B. Guðmundsson
On 07/11/2011 03:08 PM, Tim Waugh wrote: > The BMC thing sounds a bit more special-purpose than portreserve, and > presumably could be done in its own package that could perhaps be > installed as needed depending on the hardware. > > So is the next step to deprecate portreserve? What actually need

Re: glibc 2.14-4 eats my data (Re: F15 ext3, eCryptfs + samba = data corruption (Re: F15 "Error mounting eCryptfs: [-5] Input/output error" on different disks))

2011-07-11 Thread Michal Hlavinka
On 07/11/2011 05:40 PM, Michał Piotrowski wrote: > Hi, > > W dniu 11 lipca 2011 17:09 użytkownik Michal Hlavinka > napisał: >> ok, complain about memcpy in ecryptfs-utils is gone. I've checked all of >> them and I think I've fixed those which needed it. I was not able to >> reproduce original pro

[Bug 462254] Review Request: perl-Catalyst-Plugin-Session-Store-FastMmap - FastMmap session storage backend

2011-07-11 Thread bugzilla
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=462254 Iain Arnell changed: What|Removed |Added ---

Re: systemd: Is it wrong? -> wrong order

2011-07-11 Thread Steve Dickson
On 07/11/2011 10:03 AM, Lennart Poettering wrote: > On Mon, 11.07.11 10:57, Reindl Harald (h.rei...@thelounge.net) wrote: > >> Am 11.07.2011 04:51, schrieb Matthew Garrett: >> I truly truly truly hope so... but at the end of the day... I simply can't allow a new, untested (in a busine

[Bug 462254] Review Request: perl-Catalyst-Plugin-Session-Store-FastMmap - FastMmap session storage backend

2011-07-11 Thread bugzilla
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=462254 --- Comment #13 from Jon Ciesla 2011-07-11 12:01:17 EDT --- Git done (by process-git-requests). -- Configure bugmail: https://

Re: glibc 2.14-4 eats my data (Re: F15 ext3, eCryptfs + samba = data corruption (Re: F15 "Error mounting eCryptfs: [-5] Input/output error" on different disks))

2011-07-11 Thread Michał Piotrowski
W dniu 11 lipca 2011 17:57 użytkownik Michal Hlavinka napisał: > On 07/11/2011 05:40 PM, Michał Piotrowski wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> W dniu 11 lipca 2011 17:09 użytkownik Michal Hlavinka >>  napisał: >>> >>> ok, complain about memcpy in ecryptfs-utils is gone. I've checked all of >>> them and I thin

Re: systemd: Is it wrong?

2011-07-11 Thread Steve Dickson
On 07/11/2011 10:44 AM, Lennart Poettering wrote: > On Mon, 11.07.11 16:32, Miloslav Trmač (m...@volny.cz) wrote: > Steve otoh wants one service to consist of multiple daemons, each of > which can consist of multiple processes. I find that unnecessarily > complex and this is not implemented in sy

Re: systemd: Is it wrong? -> wrong order

2011-07-11 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Mon, 11.07.11 12:02, Steve Dickson (ste...@redhat.com) wrote: > > > > On 07/11/2011 10:03 AM, Lennart Poettering wrote: > > On Mon, 11.07.11 10:57, Reindl Harald (h.rei...@thelounge.net) wrote: > > > >> Am 11.07.2011 04:51, schrieb Matthew Garrett: > >> > I truly truly truly hope so...

Re: systemd: Is it wrong?

2011-07-11 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Mon, 11.07.11 12:15, Steve Dickson (ste...@redhat.com) wrote: > On 07/11/2011 10:44 AM, Lennart Poettering wrote: > > On Mon, 11.07.11 16:32, Miloslav Trmač (m...@volny.cz) wrote: > > Steve otoh wants one service to consist of multiple daemons, each of > > which can consist of multiple processe

Re: systemd: Is it wrong?

2011-07-11 Thread Matthew Garrett
On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 12:15:25PM -0400, Steve Dickson wrote: > > > On 07/11/2011 10:44 AM, Lennart Poettering wrote: > > On Mon, 11.07.11 16:32, Miloslav Trmač (m...@volny.cz) wrote: > > Steve otoh wants one service to consist of multiple daemons, each of > > which can consist of multiple proce

Re: systemd: Is it wrong?

2011-07-11 Thread Jared K. Smith
On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 12:18 PM, Lennart Poettering wrote: > I guess we have to agree to disagree on this. There are enough replied to this thread that I think it's time for me to step in here, and ask the thread to please focus on the technical details of how to make NFS work well under systemd

Re: systemd: Is it wrong?

2011-07-11 Thread Steve Dickson
On 07/11/2011 05:03 AM, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote: > On 07/11/2011 02:40 AM, Steve Dickson wrote: >> I truly truly truly hope so... but at the end of the day... I >> simply can't allow a new, untested (in a business environment) >> package destabilize a technology that is used by a large numb

Re: systemd: Is it wrong?

2011-07-11 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Mon, 11.07.11 12:55, Steve Dickson (ste...@redhat.com) wrote: > > > > On 07/11/2011 05:03 AM, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote: > > On 07/11/2011 02:40 AM, Steve Dickson wrote: > >> I truly truly truly hope so... but at the end of the day... I > >> simply can't allow a new, untested (in a busin

Buildroot broken? (iproute)

2011-07-11 Thread Jerry James
I can't build for Rawhide today. Here's an example: http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/getfile?taskID=3191106&name=root.log Here's an excerpt: DEBUG backend.py:739: ['/usr/bin/yum', '--installroot', '/var/lib/mock/dist-f16-build-1097005-168601/root/', 'groupinstall', 'srpm-build'] DEBUG util.p

Re: glibc 2.14-4 eats my data (Re: F15 ext3, eCryptfs + samba = data corruption (Re: F15 "Error mounting eCryptfs: [-5] Input/output error" on different disks))

2011-07-11 Thread Michal Hlavinka
On 07/11/2011 06:05 PM, Michał Piotrowski wrote: > W dniu 11 lipca 2011 17:57 użytkownik Michal Hlavinka > napisał: >> On 07/11/2011 05:40 PM, Michał Piotrowski wrote: >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> W dniu 11 lipca 2011 17:09 użytkownik Michal Hlavinka >>> napisał: ok, complain about memcpy in

AutoQA Downtime Starting 2011-07-11 20:00 UTC

2011-07-11 Thread Tim Flink
AutoQA will be affected by the infrastructure changes announced last week [1]. During the outage, AutoQA tests will not be run and feedback will not be posted to Bodhi. At this point, we are expecting the outage to last at least a day while the systems are re-racked and we reconfigure AutoQA for t

Re: systemd: Is it wrong?

2011-07-11 Thread Przemek Klosowski
On 07/10/2011 05:35 PM, Matthew Garrett wrote: > On Sun, Jul 10, 2011 at 03:56:25PM -0500, Chris Adams wrote: >> This is a small, light-weight daemon, and doesn't need a configuration >> file parser. This is a valid way that Unix daemons have run for >> decades, and you are saying that should be

Re: systemd: Is it wrong? -> wrong order

2011-07-11 Thread Steve Dickson
On 07/11/2011 12:15 PM, Lennart Poettering wrote: > On Mon, 11.07.11 12:02, Steve Dickson (ste...@redhat.com) wrote: > >> >> >> >> On 07/11/2011 10:03 AM, Lennart Poettering wrote: >>> On Mon, 11.07.11 10:57, Reindl Harald (h.rei...@thelounge.net) wrote: >>> Am 11.07.2011 04:51, schrieb Mat

Re: systemd: Is it wrong?

2011-07-11 Thread Steve Dickson
On 07/11/2011 01:11 PM, Lennart Poettering wrote: > On Mon, 11.07.11 12:55, Steve Dickson (ste...@redhat.com) wrote: > >> >> >> >> On 07/11/2011 05:03 AM, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote: >>> On 07/11/2011 02:40 AM, Steve Dickson wrote: I truly truly truly hope so... but at the end of the day

[perl-Catalyst-Plugin-I18N/el6] revert to 0.09

2011-07-11 Thread Iain Arnell
commit 46671f5678ee46e826de9762884d57518e84d92d Author: Iain Arnell Date: Mon Jul 11 18:20:25 2011 +0200 revert to 0.09 EL-6 only has Locale::Maketext::Simple 0.18. .gitignore |1 + perl-Catalyst-Plugin-I18N.spec | 30 +- sour

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[bucardo] new version 4.4.6

2011-07-11 Thread Itamar Reis Peixoto
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[bucardo] - new version

2011-07-11 Thread Itamar Reis Peixoto
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Re: systemd: Is it wrong?

2011-07-11 Thread Steve Dickson
On 07/11/2011 04:42 AM, Michal Schmidt wrote: > On Sun, 10 Jul 2011 20:49:56 -0400 Steve Dickson wrote: >> Ok.. Now understand where my confusion is... Currently when one >> want to start the nfs server they type 'service nfs start' which >> calls a number of binaries and ultimately a system daem

Re: systemd: Is it wrong?

2011-07-11 Thread Alexander Boström
mån 2011-07-11 klockan 12:55 -0400 skrev Steve Dickson: > * The variables read out of the EnvironmentFile are *always* > character strings which means set LOCKD_TCPPORT=234 is > no longer possible. Losing that ability to set variable to > integer values seem to like a giant step b

Re: systemd: Is it wrong?

2011-07-11 Thread Florian Müllner
2011/7/11 Steve Dickson > > Hmm? Shell only understands strings, too. What precisely are you asking > for? > in /etc/sysconfig/nfsservices > set LOCKD_TCPPORT=234 > > In nfsservice.service > > EnvironmentFile=-/etc/sysconfig/nfsservices > ExecStartPre=/sbin/sysctl -w $LOCKD_TCPPORT > > to work.

Re: glibc 2.14-4 eats my data (Re: F15 ext3, eCryptfs + samba = data corruption (Re: F15 "Error mounting eCryptfs: [-5] Input/output error" on different disks))

2011-07-11 Thread Michał Piotrowski
W dniu 11 lipca 2011 18:28 użytkownik Michal Hlavinka napisał: > On 07/11/2011 06:05 PM, Michał Piotrowski wrote: >> >> W dniu 11 lipca 2011 17:57 użytkownik Michal Hlavinka >>  napisał: >>> >>> On 07/11/2011 05:40 PM, Michał Piotrowski wrote: Hi, W dniu 11 lipca 2011 17:09 uż

Re: systemd: Is it wrong?

2011-07-11 Thread Steve Dickson
On 07/11/2011 01:40 PM, Florian Müllner wrote: > 2011/7/11 Steve Dickson mailto:ste...@redhat.com>> > > > Hmm? Shell only understands strings, too. What precisely are you asking > for? > in /etc/sysconfig/nfsservices > set LOCKD_TCPPORT=234 > > In nfsservice.service > > En

Re: Orphaning packages

2011-07-11 Thread Casey Dahlin
On Wed, Jul 06, 2011 at 02:43:43PM -0400, Casey Dahlin wrote: > On Wed, Jul 06, 2011 at 11:23:06AM -0700, Jesse Keating wrote: > > I no longer have a need/care for these packages, they are up for grabs: > > > > contacts > > inotail > > I'll take inotail. > > --CJD Someone pointed out that this

Re: systemd: Is it wrong? -> wrong order

2011-07-11 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Mon, 11.07.11 13:20, Steve Dickson (ste...@redhat.com) wrote: > > systemd is not a fedora-only project. It is available in a number of > > other distributions, in a number of them default, and will be the > > default in opensuse too, in the next release. > > Good to know... I'll talk their NFS

Re: systemd: Is it wrong?

2011-07-11 Thread Steve Dickson
[Resending this got bounced ] On 07/11/2011 12:18 PM, Lennart Poettering wrote: > On Mon, 11.07.11 12:15, Steve Dickson (ste...@redhat.com) wrote: > >> On 07/11/2011 10:44 AM, Lennart Poettering wrote: >>> On Mon, 11.07.11 16:32, Miloslav Trmač (m...@volny.cz) wrote: >>> Steve otoh wants one ser

Re: systemd: Is it wrong?

2011-07-11 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Mon, 11.07.11 13:29, Steve Dickson (ste...@redhat.com) wrote: > >> But in a nut shell: > >>* There is no way to conditionally start and stop services/daemons > >> using a configuration variable. > > > > True, and on purpose. > > What would it take to change this? We want to simplify

Re: systemd: Is it wrong?

2011-07-11 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Mon, 11.07.11 13:43, Steve Dickson (ste...@redhat.com) wrote: > > the variable evaluates to the empty string, not 0, so the sysctl > invocation fails. I don't think unit files support advanced bash > syntax like ${LOCKD_TCPPORT:-0} ... > > that would be nice... But defining it to zero is no big

Re: systemd: Is it wrong?

2011-07-11 Thread Steve Dickson
On 07/11/2011 01:54 PM, Lennart Poettering wrote: > On Mon, 11.07.11 13:29, Steve Dickson (ste...@redhat.com) wrote: * The variables read out of the EnvironmentFile are *always* character strings which means set LOCKD_TCPPORT=234 is no longer possible. Losing that abi

orphaning xmms-modplug

2011-07-11 Thread Adam Goode
I'm orphaning xmms-modplug. Free to anyone to take. Adam -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: systemd: Is it wrong?

2011-07-11 Thread Steve Dickson
On 07/11/2011 12:18 PM, Lennart Poettering wrote: > On Mon, 11.07.11 12:15, Steve Dickson (ste...@redhat.com) wrote: > >> On 07/11/2011 10:44 AM, Lennart Poettering wrote: >>> On Mon, 11.07.11 16:32, Miloslav Trmač (m...@volny.cz) wrote: >>> Steve otoh wants one service to consist of multiple da

Re: systemd: Is it wrong?

2011-07-11 Thread Jóhann B. Guðmundsson
On 07/11/2011 06:02 PM, Steve Dickson wrote: > > On 07/11/2011 01:54 PM, Lennart Poettering wrote: >> On Mon, 11.07.11 13:29, Steve Dickson (ste...@redhat.com) wrote: > * The variables read out of the EnvironmentFile are *always* > character strings which means set LOCKD_TCPPORT=2

Re: systemd: Is it wrong?

2011-07-11 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Mon, 11.07.11 14:02, Steve Dickson (ste...@redhat.com) wrote: > > > > On 07/11/2011 01:54 PM, Lennart Poettering wrote: > > On Mon, 11.07.11 13:29, Steve Dickson (ste...@redhat.com) wrote: > * The variables read out of the EnvironmentFile are *always* > character strings w

Re: systemd: Is it wrong?

2011-07-11 Thread Steve Dickson
On 07/11/2011 02:40 PM, Lennart Poettering wrote: > On Mon, 11.07.11 14:02, Steve Dickson (ste...@redhat.com) wrote: > >> >> >> >> On 07/11/2011 01:54 PM, Lennart Poettering wrote: >>> On Mon, 11.07.11 13:29, Steve Dickson (ste...@redhat.com) wrote: >>* The variables read out of the Envi

Re: Plan for today's FESCo meeting (2011-7-11)

2011-07-11 Thread Adam Jackson
=== #fedora-meeting: FESCO (2011-07-11) === Meeting started by ajax at 17:00:55 UTC. The full logs are available at http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2011-07-11/fesco.2011-07-11-17.00.log.html . Meeting summary ---

Re: Plan for today's FESCo meeting (2011-7-11)

2011-07-11 Thread Jóhann B. Guðmundsson
On 07/11/2011 07:10 PM, Adam Jackson wrote: > * #531 Orphaned package ownership claiming clarification (ajax, > 17:34:27) > * LINK: > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Johannbg/Features/SysVtoSystemd > (Viking-Ice, 17:37:29) Uhum my link belongs to item #615 not Item #531 ;)

Fedora 15 moving task (thread) off CPU

2011-07-11 Thread Zach Wang
Hi, I'm trying to move kernel threads off CPUs, but can't seem to do so in F15. The kernel call used is sched_setaffinity, and it fails with message "Invalid argument". Example threads include "cpuset" and "khelper", among others. Yes, I have checked that these threads are not bounded to specific C

Fedora 16 Schedule Reminders - Feature Submission and Feature Freeze.

2011-07-11 Thread Robyn Bergeron
A few friendly reminders: * The Feature Submission deadline for Fedora 16 is *tomorrow*, July 12. The current process for submitting a feature for Fedora 16 can be seen here: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/Policy * Feature Freeze comes quickly after the Feature Submission deadline, on

Re: Lack of space on /

2011-07-11 Thread Adam Williamson
On Sat, 2011-07-09 at 11:30 +0100, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: > On Fri, Jul 08, 2011 at 09:47:13AM +0100, Paul F. Johnson wrote: > > Hi, > > > > Something strange has happened on my system. At the start of last > > week, / was reporting that I had about 8Gb free. It now reports that / > > is comple

Re: Lack of space on /

2011-07-11 Thread Michał Piotrowski
2011/7/11 Adam Williamson : > On Sat, 2011-07-09 at 11:30 +0100, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: >> On Fri, Jul 08, 2011 at 09:47:13AM +0100, Paul F. Johnson wrote: >> > Hi, >> > >> > Something strange has happened on my system. At the start of last >> > week, / was reporting that I had about 8Gb free. I

Re: Garbled display and touchpad configuration

2011-07-11 Thread Adam Williamson
On Sun, 2011-07-10 at 12:28 -0400, ceco wrote: > Ok folks I know everyone is busy but it's time to actually sit down > and write a driver for the ATI Radeon card used in a lot of laptops. There are several hundred - probably thousand, by now - different graphics adapters with the string 'ATI Radeo

Firefox channels (Nightly, Aurora and Beta) in F16

2011-07-11 Thread Maciej Małecki
Hello everyone! As it is my first mail to this list, let me briefly introduce myself: I am Maciej Małecki, software developer based in Poznań, Poland. I've been using Fedora since F11 (and I love it). The point is: is there a chance to have Mozilla Aurora, Beta and Nightly in F16 repositories? I

Re: systemd: Is it wrong?

2011-07-11 Thread Adam Williamson
On Mon, 2011-07-11 at 18:18 +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote: > > One command that starts multiple process/daemons of a particular service. > > It as simple as that. > > I guess we have to agree to disagree on this. A lost chance for NFS, Well, two people have already pointed out it's perfectly p

Garbled display and touchpad configuration

2011-07-11 Thread ceco
I just uploaded the files, should I still do a bug report even though there are other reports on the same issue -- ceco -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: systemd: Is it wrong?

2011-07-11 Thread Adam Williamson
On Mon, 2011-07-11 at 13:34 -0400, Steve Dickson wrote: > > On 07/11/2011 04:42 AM, Michal Schmidt wrote: > > On Sun, 10 Jul 2011 20:49:56 -0400 Steve Dickson wrote: > >> Ok.. Now understand where my confusion is... Currently when one > >> want to start the nfs server they type 'service nfs start'

Re: Garbled display and touchpad configuration

2011-07-11 Thread Adam Williamson
On Mon, 2011-07-11 at 20:17 -0400, ceco wrote: > I just uploaded the files, should I still do a bug report even though there > are other reports on the same issue Add a comment and attach your data to one of the reports. -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw http://www.happya

Re: Garbled display and touchpad configuration

2011-07-11 Thread cfunder108
Thank you I will do just that --Original Message-- From: Adam Williamson To: Cecil Funderburk Cc: devel@lists.fedoraproject.org Subject: Re: Garbled display and touchpad configuration Sent: Jul 11, 2011 8:36 PM On Mon, 2011-07-11 at 20:17 -0400, ceco wrote: > I just uploaded the files, sho

Re: systemd: Is it wrong?

2011-07-11 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Mon, 11.07.11 17:16, Adam Williamson (awill...@redhat.com) wrote: > > On Mon, 2011-07-11 at 18:18 +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote: > > > > One command that starts multiple process/daemons of a particular service. > > > It as simple as that. > > > > I guess we have to agree to disagree on thi

Re: systemd: Is it wrong?

2011-07-11 Thread JB
JB gmail.com> writes: > > Michal Schmidt redhat.com> writes: > > > ... > > > 2. > > > main-service-2.service: > > > [Unit] > > > Description=Main service 2 > > > After= ... > > > ... > > > [Service] > > > Type=forking<-- any other type too ? > > > ExecStartPre= exec /etc/i