Re: who is Petr Pisar from redhat ?

2010-07-02 Thread Josephine Tannhäuser
2010/7/1, Chitlesh GOORAH : > Hello there, > > I would appreciate if someone else who is NEITHER a co-maintainer NOR > FESCo member don't version bump my packages, without notifying me. > > Petr Pisar seems to mess with my packages. > > It's simply disgusting !! > > Chitlesh ! It's seems to me tha

Re: who is Petr Pisar from redhat ?

2010-07-02 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 07/02/2010 12:57 PM, Josephine Tannhäuser wrote: > It's seems to me that you have to be an employee of red hat to get the > privilegue to deal arbitrarily with all packages. Incorrect. Anyone in the provenpackagers group has access to almost all packages. The one exception being Mozilla. Th

Re: who is Petr Pisar from redhat ?

2010-07-02 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 07/02/2010 09:37 AM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > On 07/02/2010 12:57 PM, Josephine Tannhäuser wrote: >> It's seems to me that you have to be an employee of red hat to get the >> privilegue to deal arbitrarily with all packages. > > Incorrect. Anyone in the provenpackagers group has access to almo

Re: who is Petr Pisar from redhat ?

2010-07-02 Thread Chen Lei
2010/7/2 Chitlesh GOORAH : > Hello there, > > I would appreciate if someone else who is NEITHER a co-maintainer NOR > FESCo member don't version bump my packages, without notifying me. > It looks like Petr Pisar just fixed some FTBTS bugs in rawhide after mass-rebuiding of all perl-related package

Re: who is Petr Pisar from redhat ?

2010-07-02 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 07/02/2010 01:23 PM, Ralf Corsepius wrote: > The Petr's are apparent newbies/newcomers. > > They were granted access to all perl-packages, because they are @RH. > Probably because it is their paid job to work on these packages. I am not aware of the specifics here. Fedora's sponsorship model

Re: How to lure me to updates-testing

2010-07-02 Thread Stewart Adam
On 2010/07/01 10:46 AM, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Wed, 2010-06-30 at 16:44 -0500, Michael Cronenworth wrote: >> Nathanael Noblet wrote: >>> I presume a fedora account with certs are required for this? >> >> Yes, but for your karma to have any merit, you need a Fedora account. >> Non-Fedora accoun

Re: who is Petr Pisar from redhat ?

2010-07-02 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 07/02/2010 10:05 AM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > On 07/02/2010 01:23 PM, Ralf Corsepius wrote: >> The Petr's are apparent newbies/newcomers. >> >> They were granted access to all perl-packages, because they are @RH. >> Probably because it is their paid job to work on these packages. > > I am not a

Re: who is Petr Pisar from redhat ?

2010-07-02 Thread Mamoru Tasaka
Chitlesh GOORAH wrote, at 07/02/2010 04:09 AM +9:00: > Hello there, > > I would appreciate if someone else who is NEITHER a co-maintainer NOR > FESCo member don't version bump my packages, without notifying me. > > Petr Pisar seems to mess with my packages. > > It's simply disgusting !! > > Chitles

Re: who is Petr Pisar from redhat ?

2010-07-02 Thread Kalev Lember
On 07/02/2010 11:35 AM, Mamoru Tasaka wrote: > Chitlesh GOORAH wrote, at 07/02/2010 04:09 AM +9:00: >> Hello there, >> >> I would appreciate if someone else who is NEITHER a co-maintainer NOR >> FESCo member don't version bump my packages, without notifying me. >> >> Petr Pisar seems to mess with m

Re: who is Petr Pisar from redhat ?

2010-07-02 Thread Mamoru Tasaka
Kalev Lember wrote, at 07/02/2010 05:51 PM +9:00: > On 07/02/2010 11:35 AM, Mamoru Tasaka wrote: >> Chitlesh GOORAH wrote, at 07/02/2010 04:09 AM +9:00: >>> Hello there, >>> >>> I would appreciate if someone else who is NEITHER a co-maintainer NOR >>> FESCo member don't version bump my packages, wi

Re: who is Petr Pisar from redhat ?

2010-07-02 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 07/02/2010 01:56 PM, Ralf Corsepius wrote: > > That said, I can't avoid having to agree to Josephine. The Petr's hardly > would have been granted this amount of CVS access if they had not been @RH. It seems Chitlesh was wrong and the person doing the commit was different. You seem to be co

Re: who is Petr Pisar from redhat ?

2010-07-02 Thread Matěj Cepl
Dne 2.7.2010 09:37, Rahul Sundaram napsal(a): > On 07/02/2010 12:57 PM, Josephine Tannhäuser wrote: >> It's seems to me that you have to be an employee of red hat to get the >> privilegue to deal arbitrarily with all packages. > > Incorrect. Anyone in the provenpackagers group has access to almo

Re: who is Petr Pisar from redhat ?

2010-07-02 Thread Mark Chappell
Matěj Cepl wrote: > b) if you don't like provenpackagers to mess with your packages, go and > make a switch in pkgdb. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Provenpackager_policy To exclude a package from provenpackagers access, you have to open a ticket at FESCo issue tracker and explain why provenpack

Re: who is Petr Pisar from redhat ?

2010-07-02 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Fri, 02 Jul 2010 13:07:45 +0530, Rahul wrote: > IMO, there is absolutely nothing wrong with anyone > with commit access updating packages in Rawhide Of course there is. There ought to be prior communication about such plans to upgrade a package. The primary package maintainer may have good r

Re: concept of package "ownership"

2010-07-02 Thread Matěj Cepl
Dne 2.7.2010 06:28, Adam Miller napsal(a): > I don't think it really matters what we call it, I just think that > package maintainers are starting to get a sense of entitlement and I > feel that's counter productive to the open environment we're used to > and are trying to help continue to grow. I

Re: who is Petr Pisar from redhat ?

2010-07-02 Thread Matěj Cepl
Dne 2.7.2010 11:34, Michael Schwendt napsal(a): > Of course there is. There ought to be prior communication about such plans > to upgrade a package. The primary package maintainer may have good reasons > for not upgrading the package. Just ask! The primary package maintainer (see the other thread

Re: who is Petr Pisar from redhat ?

2010-07-02 Thread Miloslav Trmač
David Woodhouse píše v Pá 02. 07. 2010 v 07:08 +0100: > On Thu, 2010-07-01 at 21:09 +0200, Chitlesh GOORAH wrote: > > > > I would appreciate if someone else who is NEITHER a co-maintainer NOR > > FESCo member don't version bump my packages, without notifying me. > > > > Petr Pisar seems to mess

Re: who is Petr Pisar from redhat ?

2010-07-02 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Fri, 02 Jul 2010 10:33:52 +0100, Mark wrote: > ProvenPackagers are there precisely to do what it looks like happened > with : http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/packageinfo?packageID=8618 Wait a minute, it's not that easy. Provenpackagers are not supposed to jump in every N months, apply a fix

Re: who is Petr Pisar from redhat ?

2010-07-02 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Fri, 02 Jul 2010 11:40:11 +0200, Matěj wrote: > Dne 2.7.2010 11:34, Michael Schwendt napsal(a): > > Of course there is. There ought to be prior communication about such plans > > to upgrade a package. The primary package maintainer may have good reasons > > for not upgrading the package. Just

Re: who is Petr Pisar from redhat ?

2010-07-02 Thread Stanislav Ochotnicky
Excerpts from Michael Schwendt's message of Fri Jul 02 11:34:38 +0200 2010: > On Fri, 02 Jul 2010 13:07:45 +0530, Rahul wrote: > > > IMO, there is absolutely nothing wrong with anyone > > with commit access updating packages in Rawhide > > Of course there is. There ought to be prior communicati

Re: who is Petr Pisar from redhat ?

2010-07-02 Thread Patrice Dumas
On Fri, Jul 02, 2010 at 11:40:11AM +0200, Matěj Cepl wrote: > Dne 2.7.2010 11:34, Michael Schwendt napsal(a): > > Of course there is. There ought to be prior communication about such plans > > to upgrade a package. The primary package maintainer may have good reasons > > for not upgrading the packa

Re: who is Petr Pisar from redhat ?

2010-07-02 Thread Chen Lei
2010/7/2 Patrice Dumas : > On Fri, Jul 02, 2010 at 11:40:11AM +0200, Matěj Cepl wrote: >> Dne 2.7.2010 11:34, Michael Schwendt napsal(a): >> > Of course there is. There ought to be prior communication about such plans >> > to upgrade a package. The primary package maintainer may have good reasons >

Re: who is Petr Pisar from redhat ?

2010-07-02 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 07/02/2010 12:08 PM, Stanislav Ochotnicky wrote: > Excerpts from Michael Schwendt's message of Fri Jul 02 11:34:38 +0200 2010: >> On Fri, 02 Jul 2010 13:07:45 +0530, Rahul wrote: >> >>> IMO, there is absolutely nothing wrong with anyone >>> with commit access updating packages in Rawhide >> >>

Re: perl-Net-CIDR-Lite build for EL6

2010-07-02 Thread Paul Howarth
On 01/07/10 22:18, Nicolas Chauvet wrote: > 2010/7/1 Orion Poplawski: >> Are you planning on building perl-Net-CIDR-Lite for EL-6 soon, or shall I >> build it? Thanks! > I only maintainer perl-Net-CIDR (not the '-Lite' version) which I've > updated and built in EL-6 just now. It's Steve Pritchard

Re: who is Petr Pisar from redhat ?

2010-07-02 Thread Chen Lei
2010/7/2 Michael Schwendt : > On Fri, 02 Jul 2010 11:40:11 +0200, Matěj wrote: > >> Dne 2.7.2010 11:34, Michael Schwendt napsal(a): >> > Of course there is. There ought to be prior communication about such plans >> > to upgrade a package. The primary package maintainer may have good reasons >> > fo

Re: who is Petr Pisar from redhat ?

2010-07-02 Thread Mark Chappell
Michael Schwendt wrote: > On Fri, 02 Jul 2010 10:33:52 +0100, Mark wrote: > >> ProvenPackagers are there precisely to do what it looks like happened >> with : http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/packageinfo?packageID=8618 > > Wait a minute, it's not that easy. Provenpackagers are not supposed to >

rpms/perl-Test-Smoke/F-13 perl-Test-Smoke.spec, NONE, 1.1 .cvsignore, 1.1, 1.2 sources, 1.1, 1.2

2010-07-02 Thread Marcela Mašláňová
Author: mmaslano Update of /cvs/pkgs/rpms/perl-Test-Smoke/F-13 In directory cvs01.phx2.fedoraproject.org:/tmp/cvs-serv24555 Modified Files: .cvsignore sources Added Files: perl-Test-Smoke.spec Log Message: * Fri Mar 26 2010 Marcela Mašláňová 1.43-1 - Specfile autogenerated by c

Re: who is Petr Pisar from redhat ?

2010-07-02 Thread Mark Chappell
Patrice Dumas wrote: > I think that this is very wrong. I don't know the specifics of this package > either, but I remember that for one of my packages, I had to hold of > correcting a FTBS because it meant upgrading, and I coudn't do that > because of some incompatibilities. So at least comment

Re: rebuild of wxGTK without the internal crash handler in Rawhide

2010-07-02 Thread Dan Horák
Kevin Kofler píše v Pá 02. 07. 2010 v 04:06 +0200: > Dan Horák wrote: > > I will rebuild wxGTK without the internal crash handler for the the > > devel/F14 branch so we can use ABRT to report crashes from wxGTK-based > > apps. This will mean a rebuild of wxGTK with --disable-catch_segvs and > > th

[Bug 582163] Review Request: perl-Test-Smoke - Perl core test smoke suite

2010-07-02 Thread bugzilla
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=582163 Marcela Mašláňová changed: What|Removed |Added -

Re: who is Petr Pisar from redhat ?

2010-07-02 Thread Felix Kaechele
I get the feeling that no one on this thread has looked into https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/ticket/403 So this has already been handled by FESCo, mistakes have been made and most likely will be avoided in the future. Felix -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedor

Re: who is Petr Pisar from redhat ?

2010-07-02 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Fri, 02 Jul 2010 11:42:10 +0100, Mark wrote: > >> ProvenPackagers are there precisely to do what it looks like happened > >> with : http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/packageinfo?packageID=8618 > > > > Wait a minute, it's not that easy. Provenpackagers are not supposed to > > jump in every N m

Re: rebuild of wxGTK without the internal crash handler in Rawhide

2010-07-02 Thread Thomas Janssen
On Fri, Jul 2, 2010 at 12:58 PM, Dan Horák wrote: > Kevin Kofler píše v Pá 02. 07. 2010 v 04:06 +0200: >> Dan Horák wrote: >> > I will rebuild wxGTK without the internal crash handler for the the >> > devel/F14 branch so we can use ABRT to report crashes from wxGTK-based >> > apps. This will mean

Re: who is Petr Pisar from redhat ?

2010-07-02 Thread Till Maas
On Fri, Jul 02, 2010 at 09:27:09AM +0200, Josephine Tannhäuser wrote: > imho that you have to ask him now why he did this is an unbounded > cheek. he has to ask or informyou BEFORE he twiddled with your > package. This is a minimum of respect he should give to you as > maintainer of this package!

Re: Bodhi 0.7.5 release

2010-07-02 Thread Till Maas
On Thu, Jul 01, 2010 at 03:13:55PM -0700, Jesse Keating wrote: > On 7/1/10 2:55 PM, Till Maas wrote: > > But I guess somehow it boils down to > > "the majority wants that other people to work for them", which might > > even be true. But in a FOSS community I doubt it is very healthy to > > follow t

Re: who is Petr Pisar from redhat ?

2010-07-02 Thread Léon Keijser
On Fri, 2010-07-02 at 11:34 +0200, Michael Schwendt wrote: > On Fri, 02 Jul 2010 13:07:45 +0530, Rahul wrote: > > > IMO, there is absolutely nothing wrong with anyone > > with commit access updating packages in Rawhide > > Of course there is. There ought to be prior communication about such pl

Re: who is Petr Pisar from redhat ?

2010-07-02 Thread Dave Airlie
On Fri, 2010-07-02 at 13:55 +0200, Léon Keijser wrote: > On Fri, 2010-07-02 at 11:34 +0200, Michael Schwendt wrote: > > On Fri, 02 Jul 2010 13:07:45 +0530, Rahul wrote: > > > > > IMO, there is absolutely nothing wrong with anyone > > > with commit access updating packages in Rawhide > > > > Of

Re: who is Petr Pisar from redhat ?

2010-07-02 Thread Till Maas
On Fri, Jul 02, 2010 at 12:03:34PM +0200, Michael Schwendt wrote: > On Fri, 02 Jul 2010 11:40:11 +0200, Matěj wrote: > > > Dne 2.7.2010 11:34, Michael Schwendt napsal(a): > > > Of course there is. There ought to be prior communication about such plans > > > to upgrade a package. The primary pack

Broken dependencies: perl-Pugs-Compiler-Rule

2010-07-02 Thread buildsys
perl-Pugs-Compiler-Rule has broken dependencies in the rawhide tree: On x86_64: perl-Pugs-Compiler-Rule-0.37-4.fc13.noarch requires perl(:MODULE_COMPAT_5.10.1) On i386: perl-Pugs-Compiler-Rule-0.37-4.fc13.noarch requires perl(:MODULE_COMPAT_5.10.1) Please resolve this as soon as

Broken dependencies: perl-Data-Alias

2010-07-02 Thread buildsys
perl-Data-Alias has broken dependencies in the rawhide tree: On x86_64: perl-Data-Alias-1.07-6.fc13.x86_64 requires perl(:MODULE_COMPAT_5.10.1) On i386: perl-Data-Alias-1.07-6.fc13.i686 requires perl(:MODULE_COMPAT_5.10.1) Please resolve this as soon as possible. -- Fedora Extra

Broken dependencies: perl-DBI-Dumper

2010-07-02 Thread buildsys
perl-DBI-Dumper has broken dependencies in the rawhide tree: On x86_64: perl-DBI-Dumper-2.01-8.fc12.x86_64 requires perl(:MODULE_COMPAT_5.10.0) On i386: perl-DBI-Dumper-2.01-8.fc12.i686 requires perl(:MODULE_COMPAT_5.10.0) Please resolve this as soon as possible. -- Fedora Extra

Re: who is Petr Pisar from redhat ?

2010-07-02 Thread Darryl L. Pierce
On Fri, Jul 02, 2010 at 01:55:21PM +0200, Léon Keijser wrote: > I think you are spot-on with this comment. There probably wouldn't be > such a discussion if the (proven)packager simply stated his intentions > to the package maintainer. Just to step into this for a moment, but this wouldn't work (i

Re: concept of package "ownership"

2010-07-02 Thread Peter Czanik
2010-07-02 03:18 keltezéssel, Kevin Kofler írta: > Dave Airlie wrote: > >> So I've noticed maintainers of packages in Fedora seem to have a concept >> of ownership, and I'm wondering if we could remove that word from usage >> about maintainership. >> > +1 > > IMHO any sponsored packager sho

@fedoraproject.org email alias

2010-07-02 Thread Chris Jones
I have just joined as a member and co-maintainer of the Fedora Design Suite. Apparently, as a member of the Fedora community I am entitled to the email alias foxmulder...@fedoraproject.org. Whereas foxmulder881 is my username. Now I can't for the life of me get the email alias to work correctly and

rawhide report: 20100702 changes

2010-07-02 Thread Rawhide Report
Compose started at Fri Jul 2 08:15:29 UTC 2010 Broken deps for i386 -- BackupPC-3.1.0-14.fc14.noarch requires perl-suidperl FlightGear-2.0.0-2.fc14.i686 requires libosgText.so.55 FlightGear-2.0.0-2.fc14.i686 requires

Re: who is Petr Pisar from redhat ?

2010-07-02 Thread Marcela Mašláňová
On 07/02/2010 01:55 PM, Léon Keijser wrote: > On Fri, 2010-07-02 at 11:34 +0200, Michael Schwendt wrote: > >> On Fri, 02 Jul 2010 13:07:45 +0530, Rahul wrote: >> >> >>> IMO, there is absolutely nothing wrong with anyone >>> with commit access updating packages in Rawhide >>> >> Of

Re: concept of package "ownership"

2010-07-02 Thread Thomas Janssen
On Fri, Jul 2, 2010 at 2:23 PM, Peter Czanik wrote: > 2010-07-02 03:18 keltezéssel, Kevin Kofler írta: >> Dave Airlie wrote: >> >>> So I've noticed maintainers of packages in Fedora seem to have a concept >>> of ownership, and I'm wondering if we could remove that word from usage >>> about maintai

Re: who is Petr Pisar from redhat ?

2010-07-02 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 07/02/2010 01:58 PM, Dave Airlie wrote: > On Fri, 2010-07-02 at 13:55 +0200, Léon Keijser wrote: >> On Fri, 2010-07-02 at 11:34 +0200, Michael Schwendt wrote: >>> On Fri, 02 Jul 2010 13:07:45 +0530, Rahul wrote: >>> IMO, there is absolutely nothing wrong with anyone with commit access

Re: who is Petr Pisar from redhat ?

2010-07-02 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Fri, 02 Jul 2010 21:58:10 +1000, Dave wrote: > On Fri, 2010-07-02 at 13:55 +0200, Léon Keijser wrote: > > On Fri, 2010-07-02 at 11:34 +0200, Michael Schwendt wrote: > > > On Fri, 02 Jul 2010 13:07:45 +0530, Rahul wrote: > > > > > > > IMO, there is absolutely nothing wrong with anyone > > > >

Re: who is Petr Pisar from redhat ?

2010-07-02 Thread Patrice Dumas
On Fri, Jul 02, 2010 at 01:33:05PM +0200, Till Maas wrote: > > I do not want to be asked for trivial changes to my packages that fix > bugs I neglected or rebuild it because of an update of a dependency. I > am happy for every work I do not have to do and sending extra mails for > such changes red

Re: concept of package "ownership"

2010-07-02 Thread Patrice Dumas
On Fri, Jul 02, 2010 at 02:23:43PM +0200, Peter Czanik wrote: > 2010-07-02 03:18 keltezéssel, Kevin Kofler írta: > > > > I think we need to get rid of the concept of ownership entirely, that'd > > also > > make orphaned or de-facto orphaned packages less of a problem. You see a > > problem, you

Re: @fedoraproject.org email alias

2010-07-02 Thread David Nalley
On Fri, Jul 2, 2010 at 8:39 AM, Chris Jones wrote: > I have just joined as a member and co-maintainer of the Fedora Design > Suite. Apparently, as a member of the Fedora community I am entitled > to the email alias foxmulder...@fedoraproject.org. Whereas > foxmulder881 is my username. Now I can't

Re: rebuild of wxGTK without the internal crash handler in Rawhide

2010-07-02 Thread Dan Horák
Thomas Janssen píše v Pá 02. 07. 2010 v 13:21 +0200: > On Fri, Jul 2, 2010 at 12:58 PM, Dan Horák wrote: > > Kevin Kofler píše v Pá 02. 07. 2010 v 04:06 +0200: > >> Dan Horák wrote: > >> > I will rebuild wxGTK without the internal crash handler for the the > >> > devel/F14 branch so we can use AB

Re: @fedoraproject.org email alias

2010-07-02 Thread Nicu Buculei
On 07/02/2010 04:17 PM, David Nalley wrote: > On Fri, Jul 2, 2010 at 8:39 AM, Chris Jones wrote: >> I have just joined as a member and co-maintainer of the Fedora Design >> Suite. Apparently, as a member of the Fedora community I am entitled >> to the email alias foxmulder...@fedoraproject.org. Wh

Re: concept of package "ownership"

2010-07-02 Thread Chen Lei
2010/7/2 Patrice Dumas : > On Fri, Jul 02, 2010 at 02:23:43PM +0200, Peter Czanik wrote: >> 2010-07-02 03:18 keltezéssel, Kevin Kofler írta: >> > >> > I think we need to get rid of the concept of ownership entirely, that'd >> > also >> > make orphaned or de-facto orphaned packages less of a proble

Re: concept of package "ownership"

2010-07-02 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 07/02/2010 06:46 PM, Patrice Dumas wrote: > > In the past we proposed a policy for that kind of issues with Rahul, > but it was never approved (nor really considered). > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/RahulSundaram/CollectiveMaintenance I had forgotten about this but since becoming provenpac

Re: concept of package "ownership"

2010-07-02 Thread Peter Czanik
Hello, 2010-07-02 14:48 keltezéssel, Thomas Janssen írta: > +1 >> I'd like to get syslog-ng updated to the latest version in Rawhide (I >> work part time for the upstream developer and I'm also an occasional >> Fedora user). I contacted the package owner, no response. Created a >> bugreport to get

Re: concept of package "ownership"

2010-07-02 Thread Patrice Dumas
On Fri, Jul 02, 2010 at 09:36:34PM +0800, Chen Lei wrote: > > I think escalating to FESCo is only suitable for changes which are > controversial between different people, we should have another policy > to treat those non-responsive issues, maintainers should respond on > bugzilla report in time.

Re: concept of package "ownership"

2010-07-02 Thread Patrice Dumas
On Fri, Jul 02, 2010 at 07:15:54PM +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > > I had forgotten about this but since becoming provenpackager I have > helped out in simple rebuilds or even version bumps on occasions and > have gotten positive feedback. You mean that you didn't only send a patch but you did c

Re: concept of package "ownership"

2010-07-02 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 07/02/2010 07:27 PM, Patrice Dumas wrote: > On Fri, Jul 02, 2010 at 07:15:54PM +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote: >> I had forgotten about this but since becoming provenpackager I have >> helped out in simple rebuilds or even version bumps on occasions and >> have gotten positive feedback. > You mea

Re: concept of package "ownership"

2010-07-02 Thread Patrice Dumas
On Fri, Jul 02, 2010 at 07:29:33PM +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > > You mean that you didn't only send a patch but you did commit > > version bumps without prior communication with the maintainer > > or with a maintainer not responding to your offer to do a > > version bump? > > I offered to d

Re: concept of package "ownership"

2010-07-02 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 07/02/2010 07:37 PM, Patrice Dumas wrote: > Ok, this policy was for the other case, a case when the maintainer > does not respond. I am not saying that it happens a lot, but it > happened in the past, and the syslog-ng case exposed in the thread is > another recent case. Maybe a policy is not n

Orphaning perl-TermReadKey

2010-07-02 Thread Stepan Kasal
Hi, I have orphaned perl-TermReadKey, for Fedora 11-devel, EPEL 4,5. Anyone interested, please take it. Stepan -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Subscribing to package updates in bodhi?

2010-07-02 Thread Julian Aloofi
Hi all, I have a pretty simple question: Is there a way to "subscribe" to certain packages in bodhi so that I get a notification via mail whenever updates are queued for it or pushes happen? That would be pretty useful for monitoring changes of dependencies, so I have enough time to make sure my pa

webkitgtk abi bump

2010-07-02 Thread Matthias Clasen
Just a headsup: I've just built webkitgtk-1.3.2 in rawhide, which changes library sonames, so things depending on it will have to be rebuilt. repoquery says that the following packages might be affected: anjuta awn-extras-applets cairo-dock-plug-ins-webkit claws-mail-plugins-fancy devhelp empathy

Re: Subscribing to package updates in bodhi?

2010-07-02 Thread Andreas Bierfert
On Fri, 2010-07-02 at 16:33 +0200, Julian Aloofi wrote: > Hi all, > I have a pretty simple question: > Is there a way to "subscribe" to certain packages in bodhi so that I get > a notification via mail whenever updates are queued for it or pushes > happen? That would be pretty useful for monitoring

Re: webkitgtk abi bump

2010-07-02 Thread Kushal Das
On Fri, Jul 2, 2010 at 8:06 PM, Matthias Clasen wrote: > Just a headsup: I've just built webkitgtk-1.3.2 in rawhide, which > changes library sonames, so things depending on it will have to be > rebuilt. lekhonee-gnome rebuild done. Kushal -- http://fedoraproject.org http://kushaldas.in -- deve

Re: concept of package "ownership"

2010-07-02 Thread Paul W. Frields
On Thu, Jul 01, 2010 at 11:28:09PM -0500, Adam Miller wrote: > I don't think it really matters what we call it, I just think that > package maintainers are starting to get a sense of entitlement and I > feel that's counter productive to the open environment we're used to > and are trying to help co

Re: webkitgtk abi bump

2010-07-02 Thread Andreas Bierfert
On Fri, 2010-07-02 at 10:36 -0400, Matthias Clasen wrote: > Just a headsup: I've just built webkitgtk-1.3.2 in rawhide, which > changes library sonames, so things depending on it will have to be > rebuilt. claws-mail-plugins rebuild done - Andreas -- BRef Andreas Bierfert, M.Sc. | http://awbsw

Re: who is Petr Pisar from redhat ?

2010-07-02 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Fri, Jul 02, 2010 at 09:53:00AM +0200, Ralf Corsepius wrote: > On 07/02/2010 09:37 AM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > > On 07/02/2010 12:57 PM, Josephine Tannhäuser wrote: > >> It's seems to me that you have to be an employee of red hat to get the > >> privilegue to deal arbitrarily with all packages

Re: who is Petr Pisar from redhat ?

2010-07-02 Thread Richard Hughes
On 2 July 2010 17:00, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: >> They were granted access to all perl-packages, because they are @RH. >> Probably because it is their paid job to work on these packages. >> > Ralf, you need to stop repeating this particular line when I have repeatedly > told you that working for Red

Re: who is Petr Pisar from redhat ?

2010-07-02 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Fri, Jul 02, 2010 at 11:26:32AM +0200, Matěj Cepl wrote: > Dne 2.7.2010 09:37, Rahul Sundaram napsal(a): > > On 07/02/2010 12:57 PM, Josephine Tannhäuser wrote: > >> It's seems to me that you have to be an employee of red hat to get the > >> privilegue to deal arbitrarily with all packages. >

Re: Subscribing to package updates in bodhi?

2010-07-02 Thread Julian Aloofi
Am Freitag, den 02.07.2010, 17:02 +0200 schrieb Andreas Bierfert: > On Fri, 2010-07-02 at 16:33 +0200, Julian Aloofi wrote: > > Hi all, > > I have a pretty simple question: > > Is there a way to "subscribe" to certain packages in bodhi so that I get > > a notification via mail whenever updates are

Re: who is Petr Pisar from redhat ?

2010-07-02 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 07/02/2010 06:00 PM, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: > On Fri, Jul 02, 2010 at 09:53:00AM +0200, Ralf Corsepius wrote: >> On 07/02/2010 09:37 AM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: >>>On 07/02/2010 12:57 PM, Josephine Tannhäuser wrote: It's seems to me that you have to be an employee of red hat to get the >>

Re: who is Petr Pisar from redhat ?

2010-07-02 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 07/02/2010 06:07 PM, Richard Hughes wrote: > On 2 July 2010 17:00, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: >>> They were granted access to all perl-packages, because they are @RH. >>> Probably because it is their paid job to work on these packages. >>> >> Ralf, you need to stop repeating this particular line wh

measuring success [was Re: Bodhi 0.7.5 release]

2010-07-02 Thread Will Woods
On Thu, 2010-07-01 at 06:33 +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote: > Fedora Legacy has shown how well this works… not! > > I completely agree with Ralf Corsepius and Tom Lane on this subject: this > policy is very unhelpful, and applying it to security updates is just > totally insane. We're going to see m

Re: measuring success [was Re: Bodhi 0.7.5 release]

2010-07-02 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 07/02/2010 06:20 PM, Will Woods wrote: > The main reasons we want to perform testing are things like: to avoid > pushing updates with broken dependencies, or updates that cause serious > regressions requiring manual intervention / emergency update > replacements. That sort of thing. > Should b

Re: Evolution update in F13

2010-07-02 Thread Przemek Klosowski
On 07/02/2010 12:09 AM, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > It's in stable now. The time in testing allowed us to fix and add > several more packages to it and confirm that it did indeed fix things. Maybe it's still being propagated, but when I did update --skip-broken followed by yum update, right now (Fri Jul

Re: who is Petr Pisar from redhat ?

2010-07-02 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Fri, Jul 02, 2010 at 06:15:44PM +0200, Ralf Corsepius wrote: > On 07/02/2010 06:00 PM, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: > > On Fri, Jul 02, 2010 at 09:53:00AM +0200, Ralf Corsepius wrote: > >> The Petr's are apparent newbies/newcomers. > >> > >> They were granted access to all perl-packages, because they

Re: who is Petr Pisar from redhat ?

2010-07-02 Thread Jesse Keating
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 7/2/10 9:18 AM, Ralf Corsepius wrote: >> I had to apply and justify the reasons why I wanted to be a >> > provenpackager. > I know you did, but the Petr's did not. Their presumable supervisor @RH > (Marcella) rushed them through the process and the

Re: Evolution update in F13

2010-07-02 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Fri, 02 Jul 2010 12:41:18 -0400, Przemek wrote: > On 07/02/2010 12:09 AM, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > > > It's in stable now. The time in testing allowed us to fix and add > > several more packages to it and confirm that it did indeed fix things. > > Maybe it's still being propagated, but when I did

Re: who is Petr Pisar from redhat ?

2010-07-02 Thread Mike McGrath
On Fri, 2 Jul 2010, Ralf Corsepius wrote: > On 07/02/2010 06:00 PM, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: > > On Fri, Jul 02, 2010 at 09:53:00AM +0200, Ralf Corsepius wrote: > >> On 07/02/2010 09:37 AM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > >>>On 07/02/2010 12:57 PM, Josephine Tannhäuser wrote: > It's seems to me tha

Re: Evolution update in F13

2010-07-02 Thread Przemek Klosowski
On 07/02/2010 12:47 PM, Michael Schwendt wrote: > On Fri, 02 Jul 2010 12:41:18 -0400, Przemek wrote: > >> On 07/02/2010 12:09 AM, Kevin Fenzi wrote: >> >>> It's in stable now. The time in testing allowed us to fix and add >>> several more packages to it and confirm that it did indeed fix things. >>

[pkgdb] perl-PatchReader (Fedora EPEL, 5) updated by tibbs

2010-07-02 Thread Fedora PackageDB
tibbs added a Fedora EPEL 5 branch for perl-PatchReader Package perl-PatchReader in Fedora EPEL 5 is now owned by pfrields tibbs approved watchbugzilla on perl-PatchReader (Fedora EPEL 5) for perl-sig tibbs approved watchcommits on perl-PatchReader (Fedora EPEL 5) for perl-sig tibbs approved commit

[pkgdb] perl-PatchReader (Fedora EPEL, 6) updated by tibbs

2010-07-02 Thread Fedora PackageDB
tibbs added a Fedora EPEL 6 branch for perl-PatchReader Package perl-PatchReader in Fedora EPEL 6 is now owned by pfrields tibbs approved watchbugzilla on perl-PatchReader (Fedora EPEL 6) for perl-sig tibbs approved watchcommits on perl-PatchReader (Fedora EPEL 6) for perl-sig tibbs approved commit

Re: Subscribing to package updates in bodhi?

2010-07-02 Thread Thomas Janssen
On Fri, Jul 2, 2010 at 4:33 PM, Julian Aloofi wrote: > Hi all, > I have a pretty simple question: > Is there a way to "subscribe" to certain packages in bodhi so that I get > a notification via mail whenever updates are queued for it or pushes > happen? That would be pretty useful for monitoring c

Seeking co-maintainers: monit

2010-07-02 Thread Stewart Adam
Hi, I packaged monit a while ago but never really got around to using it as I found Nagios to be more suitable for my needs... I do not mind continuing to package Monit, but seeing as I rarely use it myself it would be great if someone who does would like to co-maintain it and help troublesho

Re: measuring success

2010-07-02 Thread Till Maas
On Fri, Jul 02, 2010 at 12:20:21PM -0400, Will Woods wrote: > Therefore: I propose that we choose a few metrics ("turnaround time on > security updates", "average number of live updates with broken > dependencies per day", etc.). Then we begin measuring them (and, if > possible, collect historical

Re: Subscribing to package updates in bodhi?

2010-07-02 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Fri, Jul 02, 2010 at 04:33:20PM +0200, Julian Aloofi wrote: > Hi all, > I have a pretty simple question: > Is there a way to "subscribe" to certain packages in bodhi so that I get > a notification via mail whenever updates are queued for it or pushes > happen? That would be pretty useful for mon

Re: Bodhi 0.7.5 release

2010-07-02 Thread Till Maas
On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 02:48:26PM -0400, Luke Macken wrote: > For critical path updates to be approved for pushing to the stable > repository, they now require a minimum karma of 2, consisting of a +1 > from a single proventester, and a +1 from another authenticated user. I am just wondering, is

Re: Bodhi 0.7.5 release

2010-07-02 Thread Jesse Keating
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 7/2/10 11:27 AM, Till Maas wrote: > On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 02:48:26PM -0400, Luke Macken wrote: > >> For critical path updates to be approved for pushing to the stable >> repository, they now require a minimum karma of 2, consisting of a +1 >> fro

Re: Bodhi 0.7.5 release

2010-07-02 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Fri, 02 Jul 2010 20:27:27 +0200 Till Maas wrote: > On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 02:48:26PM -0400, Luke Macken wrote: > > > For critical path updates to be approved for pushing to the stable > > repository, they now require a minimum karma of 2, consisting of a > > +1 from a single proventester, an

Re: CVS admin requests

2010-07-02 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Thu, 1 Jul 2010 13:32:20 -0600, Kevin wrote: > > The page "Package Change Requests for existing packages" is unclear: > > > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/PackageMaintainers/CVSAdminProcedure#Package_Change_Requests_for_existing_packages > > > > Please expand on what "explanatory text" you w

Re: CVS admin requests

2010-07-02 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Fri, 2 Jul 2010 21:50:08 +0200 Michael Schwendt wrote: ...snip... > > - You are not the owner and want to maintain in epel. Did you > > contact the fedora owner and wait and/or hear back that they didn't > > want to maintain it? > > How would I know that this would be relevant? And why is it

Re: Bodhi 0.7.5 release

2010-07-02 Thread Till Maas
On Fri, Jul 02, 2010 at 12:48:43PM -0600, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > On Fri, 02 Jul 2010 20:27:27 +0200 > Till Maas wrote: > >Also they are about the "important packages", > > which is a subset of critical path. > > Superset. :) In any case, the items mentioned there should be > implemented. Bodhi ca

Re: Bodhi 0.7.5 release

2010-07-02 Thread Till Maas
On Fri, Jul 02, 2010 at 12:48:43PM -0600, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > I have updated the page. > > Does it look clear now? Re-wording or tweaks very welcome. > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Package_update_acceptance_criteria Btw. does Bodhi really work the way it is said there? What happens if th

orphaning a few packages

2010-07-02 Thread Sebastian Dziallas
Hi all, since I'll be entering college soon, I'm revisiting my workload (I'll continue to work on Sugar and Etherpad). I'm using neither of the following applications (nodm was originally intended to be used for sugar-related work) and since both avogadro and nodm have a few open bugs which I've b

Re: Subscribing to package updates in bodhi?

2010-07-02 Thread Julian Aloofi
Am Freitag, den 02.07.2010, 19:31 +0200 schrieb Thomas Janssen: > On Fri, Jul 2, 2010 at 4:33 PM, Julian Aloofi > wrote: > > Hi all, > > I have a pretty simple question: > > Is there a way to "subscribe" to certain packages in bodhi so that I get > > a notification via mail whenever updates are qu

Re: @fedoraproject.org email alias

2010-07-02 Thread Chris Jones
On Fri, Jul 2, 2010 at 11:28 PM, Nicu Buculei wrote: > > > I just added him to the Design Team group so his alias should start > working. > > -- > nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com/ > > Thanks. Yes it is now working correctly. Regards -- Chris Jones Photographic Imaging

Re: measuring success [was Re: Bodhi 0.7.5 release]

2010-07-02 Thread Kevin Kofler
Will Woods wrote: > The main reasons we want to perform testing are things like: to avoid > pushing updates with broken dependencies The right way to prevent that is to get AutoQA completed, which will, if it works as intended, automatically detect and throw out updates with broken dependencies

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