Re: rebuild of packages dependent on perl

2010-06-02 Thread Marcela Mašláňová
On 06/01/2010 07:08 PM, Chen Lei wrote: > 2010/6/1 Marcela Mašláňová: > >> Hello maintainers, >> I started rebuild of packages dependent on perl. At the moment are packages >> rebuilt in >> test buildroot dist-f14-perltest. It's quite possible that some will fail >> with new perl-5.12.0. >> If

Re: i386-class support changed in F-13?

2010-06-02 Thread Peter Robinson
On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 7:47 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > On 06/02/2010 12:09 PM, Peter Robinson wrote: >> It does work in F-12, the response for the lack of support in F-13 was >> 'deal with it'. There is suppose to be a patch to emulate it in the >> kernel but apparently it won't go upstream until

Re: deluge and flags sub package

2010-06-02 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 05/29/2010 12:12 PM, Chen Lei wrote > I'd rather suggest you to split deluge into several subpackages, e.g. > deluge(metapackge) deluge-gtk deluge-console deluge-web deluge-common > or deluge(gtk ui) deluge-console deluge-web deluge-common. > Bundling UI and Core and pulling in gtk2 dependency i

Re: Package maintainers -- want test results by mail?

2010-06-02 Thread Jaroslav Reznik
On Wednesday 02 June 2010 06:12:48 Peter Lemenkov wrote: > 2010/6/2 James Laska : > > Greetings package maintainers, > > > > Want to get notification of any breakage in your just-built koji > > packages? > > It would be great if rpmlint logs will be automatically generated on > each koji build an

Re: Package maintainers -- want test results by mail?

2010-06-02 Thread Stanislav Ochotnicky
On 06/02/2010 12:11 AM, seth vidal wrote: > On Tue, 2010-06-01 at 16:43 -0400, James Laska wrote: >> Greetings package maintainers, >> >> Want to get notification of any breakage in your just-built koji >> packages? This includes results of rpmlint [1], rpmguard [2] and, if >> applicable, initscri

Re: Package maintainers -- want test results by mail?

2010-06-02 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 06/02/2010 01:08 PM, Jaroslav Reznik wrote: > +1. Nice idea. But I hope this is the first phase of auto QA development and > we > will see this integrated to Koji and other Fedora infrastructure in the > future > It would also be useful to be able to filter out bogus rpmlint warnings like

Re: i386-class support changed in F-13?

2010-06-02 Thread Glandvador
On 02.06.2010 09:19, Peter Robinson wrote: > On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 7:47 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: >> On 06/02/2010 12:09 PM, Peter Robinson wrote: >>> It does work in F-12, the response for the lack of support in F-13 was >>> 'deal with it'. There is suppose to be a patch to emulate it in the >>>

Re: Package maintainers -- want test results by mail?

2010-06-02 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 06/01/2010 10:43 PM, James Laska wrote: > Greetings package maintainers, > > Want to get notification of any breakage in your just-built koji > packages? This includes results of rpmlint [1], Unless rpmlint starts to use a massively cleaned up set of rules, its results are mostly noise. -- d

Curiosity, Are Cursor Themes that Critical?

2010-06-02 Thread Frank Murphy
Why does: yum erase dmz-cursor-themes --snip-- Remove 211 Package(s) Reinstall 0 Package(s) Downgrade 0 Package(s) Installed size: 854 M Is this ok [y/N]: n Although I use bluecureve yum erase bluecurve-cursor-theme Remove1 Package(s) Reinstall 0 Package(s) Downgrade

Re: Curiosity, Are Cursor Themes that Critical?

2010-06-02 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 06/02/2010 02:34 PM, Frank Murphy wrote: > Why does: > yum erase dmz-cursor-themes > --snip-- > Remove 211 Package(s) > Reinstall 0 Package(s) > Downgrade 0 Package(s) > > Installed size: 854 M > Is this ok [y/N]: n > > Although I use bluecureve > yum erase bluecurve-cursor-theme >

Re: timevariant GUI elements (Re: systemd (Was Re: tmpfs for strategic directories))

2010-06-02 Thread Roberto Ragusa
Kevin Kofler wrote: > Roberto Ragusa wrote: >> In recent times some stupid (IMHO) ideas have been adopted in Linux >> just to copy what others do. Just as examples: the control of desktop >> widgets in KDE4 (functional GUI elements modified by a mouse-over???), > > I only know of 2 plasmoids trigg

Re: i386-class support changed in F-13?

2010-06-02 Thread Till Maas
On Wed, Jun 02, 2010 at 08:19:24AM +0100, Peter Robinson wrote: > On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 7:47 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > > On 06/02/2010 12:09 PM, Peter Robinson wrote: > >> It does work in F-12, the response for the lack of support in F-13 was > >> 'deal with it'. There is suppose to be a patch

culmus-fonts packaging bug / Non-responsive maintainer

2010-06-02 Thread Michael Schwendt
http://bugzilla.redhat.com/570819 A ticket opened on March 5th, but Pravin Satpute just doesn't respond. Does anyone know the languages involved here (lang=he, lang=yi) and can fix this fonts package, please? Thanks in advance. -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fe

Re: culmus-fonts packaging bug / Non-responsive maintainer

2010-06-02 Thread प्रविण सातपुते
On 2 June 2010 15:19, Michael Schwendt wrote: > http://bugzilla.redhat.com/570819 > > A ticket opened on March 5th, but Pravin Satpute just doesn't > respond. > I am not much clear how to fix it. We will discuss this bug in next fedora fonts meeting. I think we need some attention from upstream

Re: syslog-ng

2010-06-02 Thread Peter Czanik
Hello, 2010-05-12 17:07 keltezéssel, Daniel J Walsh írta: >> I'm looking for information, how to get a package (in my case: >> syslog-ng) updated to the latest available version. First I tried to >> contact the original syslog-ng packagers directly, but I got no response >> at all. Here on the lis

Re: syslog-ng

2010-06-02 Thread Frank Murphy
On 02/06/10 11:56, Peter Czanik wrote: --snip-- > > And a bonus question, as I work now for the upstream developer of > syslog-ng: what was the reason for dropping syslog-ng from the distribution? > > Bye, > CzP No idea but this is when rsyslog was mooted. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-

Re: culmus-fonts packaging bug / Non-responsive maintainer

2010-06-02 Thread Mamoru Tasaka
Michael Schwendt wrote, at 06/02/2010 06:49 PM +9:00: > http://bugzilla.redhat.com/570819 > > A ticket opened on March 5th, but Pravin Satpute just doesn't > respond. > > Does anyone know the languages involved here (lang=he, lang=yi) > and can fix this fonts package, please? Thanks in advance. I

Re: culmus-fonts packaging bug / Non-responsive maintainer

2010-06-02 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Wed, 02 Jun 2010 20:12:08 +0900, Mamoru wrote: > > http://bugzilla.redhat.com/570819 > I will vote that this must be fixed in yum side (or fontconfig or rpm). It could be that a policy is needed. Similar to https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging:Guidelines#Non-ASCII_Filenames but for RPM

Re: culmus-fonts packaging bug / Non-responsive maintainer

2010-06-02 Thread Mamoru Tasaka
Mamoru Tasaka wrote, at 06/02/2010 08:12 PM +9:00: > Michael Schwendt wrote, at 06/02/2010 06:49 PM +9:00: >> http://bugzilla.redhat.com/570819 >> >> A ticket opened on March 5th, but Pravin Satpute just doesn't >> respond. >> >> Does anyone know the languages involved here (lang=he, lang=yi) >> an

Re: syslog-ng

2010-06-02 Thread Peter Czanik
Hello, 2010-06-02 12:56 keltezéssel, Peter Czanik írta: > > So the question is modified: how can I get it (and the supporting > packages) back into Fedora. I have now updated the syslog-ng spec file > from Fedora 12 to syslog-ng version 3.1.1 and compiled with mock on FC12 > FC13 and Rawhide. Almo

Re: Package maintainers -- want test results by mail?

2010-06-02 Thread James Laska
On Wed, 2010-06-02 at 10:49 +0200, Ralf Corsepius wrote: > On 06/01/2010 10:43 PM, James Laska wrote: > > Greetings package maintainers, > > > > Want to get notification of any breakage in your just-built koji > > packages? This includes results of rpmlint [1], > > Unless rpmlint starts to use a

Re: syslog-ng

2010-06-02 Thread Petr Lautrbach
On 06/02/2010 12:56 PM, Peter Czanik wrote: > Hello, > > 2010-05-12 17:07 keltezéssel, Daniel J Walsh írta: >>> I'm looking for information, how to get a package (in my case: >>> syslog-ng) updated to the latest available version. First I tried to >>> contact the original syslog-ng packagers direct

Re: Package maintainers -- want test results by mail?

2010-06-02 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 06/02/2010 01:49 PM, James Laska wrote: > On Wed, 2010-06-02 at 10:49 +0200, Ralf Corsepius wrote: >> On 06/01/2010 10:43 PM, James Laska wrote: >>> Greetings package maintainers, >>> >>> Want to get notification of any breakage in your just-built koji >>> packages? This includes results of rpm

Re: rebuild of packages dependent on perl

2010-06-02 Thread Iain Arnell
On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 9:40 PM, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: > > If anyone fancies having a go at fixing perl4caml ..  Debian reported > a bug compiling this with Perl 5.12 already: > > http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=578800 > It seems simplest to pretend that SVt_RV still exists on

Re: Package maintainers -- want test results by mail?

2010-06-02 Thread Matthias Clasen
On Wed, 2010-06-02 at 07:49 -0400, James Laska wrote: > On Wed, 2010-06-02 at 10:49 +0200, Ralf Corsepius wrote: > > On 06/01/2010 10:43 PM, James Laska wrote: > > > Greetings package maintainers, > > > > > > Want to get notification of any breakage in your just-built koji > > > packages? This inc

Re: Package maintainers -- want test results by mail?

2010-06-02 Thread seth vidal
On Wed, 2010-06-02 at 08:25 -0400, Matthias Clasen wrote: > On Wed, 2010-06-02 at 07:49 -0400, James Laska wrote: > > On Wed, 2010-06-02 at 10:49 +0200, Ralf Corsepius wrote: > > > On 06/01/2010 10:43 PM, James Laska wrote: > > > > Greetings package maintainers, > > > > > > > > Want to get notifica

rawhide report: 20100602 changes

2010-06-02 Thread Rawhide Report
Compose started at Wed Jun 2 08:15:11 UTC 2010 Broken deps for i386 -- almanah-0.7.3-1.fc14.i686 requires libedataserver-1.2.so.12 1:anjuta-2.30.0.0-2.fc14.i686 requires libgladeui-1.so.9 bugzilla-3.6-1.fc14.noarch re

Re: syslog-ng

2010-06-02 Thread Peter Czanik
2010-06-02 14:02 keltezéssel, Petr Lautrbach írta: > On 06/02/2010 12:56 PM, Peter Czanik wrote: > >> Hello, >> >> 2010-05-12 17:07 keltezéssel, Daniel J Walsh írta: >> I'm looking for information, how to get a package (in my case: syslog-ng) updated to the latest available versio

Re: Package maintainers -- want test results by mail?

2010-06-02 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 06/02/2010 02:36 PM, seth vidal wrote: > On Wed, 2010-06-02 at 08:25 -0400, Matthias Clasen wrote: >> On Wed, 2010-06-02 at 07:49 -0400, James Laska wrote: >>> On Wed, 2010-06-02 at 10:49 +0200, Ralf Corsepius wrote: On 06/01/2010 10:43 PM, James Laska wrote: > Greetings package maintai

Re: Package maintainers -- want test results by mail?

2010-06-02 Thread James Laska
On Wed, 2010-06-02 at 14:10 +0200, Ralf Corsepius wrote: > On 06/02/2010 01:49 PM, James Laska wrote: > > On Wed, 2010-06-02 at 10:49 +0200, Ralf Corsepius wrote: > >> On 06/01/2010 10:43 PM, James Laska wrote: > >>> Greetings package maintainers, > >>> > >>> Want to get notification of any breakag

Re: Package maintainers -- want test results by mail?

2010-06-02 Thread Matthias Clasen
On Wed, 2010-06-02 at 08:36 -0400, seth vidal wrote: > > I think the goal is, of course, to reduce the noise out and focus on > making sure the packagers know about the truly broken. :) > Another useful goal might be to only emit errors/warnings for which we can accompany the message with a lin

Re: Package maintainers -- want test results by mail?

2010-06-02 Thread Kamil Paral
- "seth vidal" wrote: > > I just added autoqa-optout to fedorapeople. > > it does what you expect it to do and acts just like autoqa-optin Just a minor remark... please add --help. Thanks :) -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinf

Re: Package maintainers -- want test results by mail?

2010-06-02 Thread seth vidal
On Wed, 2010-06-02 at 09:09 -0400, Kamil Paral wrote: > - "seth vidal" wrote: > > > > I just added autoqa-optout to fedorapeople. > > > > it does what you expect it to do and acts just like autoqa-optin > > Just a minor remark... please add --help. Thanks :) autoqa-optout with no argument

-upstart subpackage vs tranditional initscripts

2010-06-02 Thread Chen Lei
Fedora have upstart as the /sbin/init daemon for a long time, but we still use the old 'SysVinit' scripts from /etc/rc.d/init.d and fedora packaging guideline have nothing about upstart. Is it right for the maintainer to provide  two separate subpackages, one with the tranditional rc.d contents an

Re: -upstart subpackage vs tranditional initscripts

2010-06-02 Thread Patrice Dumas
On Wed, Jun 02, 2010 at 09:13:02PM +0800, Chen Lei wrote: > Fedora have upstart as the /sbin/init daemon for a long time, but we > still use the old 'SysVinit' scripts from /etc/rc.d/init.d and fedora > packaging guideline have nothing about upstart. > > Is it right for the maintainer to provide  

Re: i386-class support changed in F-13?

2010-06-02 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Wed, Jun 02, 2010 at 08:19:24 +0100, Peter Robinson wrote: > On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 7:47 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > > On 06/02/2010 12:09 PM, Peter Robinson wrote: > >> It does work in F-12, the response for the lack of support in F-13 was > >> 'deal with it'. There is suppose to be a patch

Re: i386-class support changed in F-13?

2010-06-02 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 06/02/2010 07:43 PM, Bruno Wolff III wrote: > This issue points out a gap in our QA testing. > Fixing it now could end up being painful (if we need to rebuild lots of > packages). Catching it earlier would have made that (lots of rebuilds) > a lot more palatible. > Fedora 14 will have a new

[Bug 598989] [abrt] crash in perl-Padre-0.50-4.fc13: Process /usr/bin/perl was killed by signal 11 (SIGSEGV)

2010-06-02 Thread bugzilla
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=598989 --- Comment #2 from Petr Pisar 2010-06-02 10:35:22 EDT --- Cannot reproduce on Linux to Linux (Xorg, putty or openssh for Linux,

Re: culmus-fonts packaging bug / Non-responsive maintainer

2010-06-02 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Wed, Jun 02, 2010 at 08:12:08PM +0900, Mamoru Tasaka wrote: > Michael Schwendt wrote, at 06/02/2010 06:49 PM +9:00: > > http://bugzilla.redhat.com/570819 > > > > A ticket opened on March 5th, but Pravin Satpute just doesn't > > respond. > > > > Does anyone know the languages involved here (lang=

Re: culmus-fonts packaging bug / Non-responsive maintainer

2010-06-02 Thread Mamoru Tasaka
Toshio Kuratomi wrote, at 06/02/2010 11:51 PM +9:00: > On Wed, Jun 02, 2010 at 08:12:08PM +0900, Mamoru Tasaka wrote: >> Michael Schwendt wrote, at 06/02/2010 06:49 PM +9:00: >>> http://bugzilla.redhat.com/570819 >>> >>> A ticket opened on March 5th, but Pravin Satpute just doesn't >>> respond. >>>

rpms/perl-Socket-GetAddrInfo/devel perl-Socket-GetAddrInfo.spec, 1.7, 1.8

2010-06-02 Thread Marcela Mašláňová
Author: mmaslano Update of /cvs/pkgs/rpms/perl-Socket-GetAddrInfo/devel In directory cvs01.phx2.fedoraproject.org:/tmp/cvs-serv4462 Modified Files: perl-Socket-GetAddrInfo.spec Log Message: * Wed Jun 2 2010 Petr Pisar - 0.15-6 - Rebuild against perl-5.12 Index: perl-Socket-GetAddrIn

rpms/perl-PBS/devel perl-PBS-0.33-obsolete.patch, NONE, 1.1 perl-PBS.spec, 1.10, 1.11

2010-06-02 Thread Tom Callaway
Author: spot Update of /cvs/pkgs/rpms/perl-PBS/devel In directory cvs01.phx2.fedoraproject.org:/tmp/cvs-serv4735 Modified Files: perl-PBS.spec Added Files: perl-PBS-0.33-obsolete.patch Log Message: fix perl-PBS to build against latest torque (2.4.8) perl-PBS-0.33-obsolete.patch

Re: i386-class support changed in F-13?

2010-06-02 Thread David Michael
On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 2:39 AM, Peter Robinson wrote: > It does work in F-12, the response for the lack of support in F-13 was > 'deal with it'. There is suppose to be a patch to emulate it in the > kernel but apparently it won't go upstream until its a generic infra > patch that can allow support

Re: i386-class support changed in F-13?

2010-06-02 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Wed, Jun 02, 2010 at 11:23:37AM -0400, David Michael wrote: > On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 2:39 AM, Peter Robinson wrote: > > It does work in F-12, the response for the lack of support in F-13 was > > 'deal with it'. There is suppose to be a patch to emulate it in the > > kernel but apparently it won

Re: Fedora rawhide FTBFS status 2010-05-27 x86_64

2010-06-02 Thread Nils Philippsen
On Mon, 2010-05-31 at 12:43 -0500, Matt Domsch wrote: > nphilipp: gegl,gtkimageview,ufraw these all built fine as scratch, probably affected by the segfaulting pkgconfig -- Nils Philippsen "Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase Red Hat a little Temporary Safet

Re: i386-class support changed in F-13?

2010-06-02 Thread Adam Jackson
On Tue, 2010-06-01 at 22:43 +0200, Gland Vador wrote: > Sorry to reopen this old topic, but the conclusion is not obvious. The > F13 is out and it seems to have lost support for the Geode LX CPU > (cf.http://sharkcz.livejournal.com/5708.html), due to the use of the > NOPL instruction by GCC. >

Re: Package maintainers -- want test results by mail?

2010-06-02 Thread Ville Skyttä
On Wednesday 02 June 2010, Matthias Clasen wrote: > On Wed, 2010-06-02 at 07:49 -0400, James Laska wrote: > > > Which packages do you maintain where the output has become unmanageable? > > For myself, I really only think that the spell checks are intolerable. There have been some complaints about

Re: Fedora rawhide FTBFS status 2010-05-27 i386

2010-06-02 Thread Matt Domsch
On Tue, Jun 01, 2010 at 04:52:42AM +0200, Ralf Corsepius wrote: > On 05/31/2010 07:44 PM, Matt Domsch wrote: > > Fedora Fails To Build From Source Results for i386 > > using rawhide from 2010-05-27 > > > > This is a full rebuild, the first for Fedora 14's rawhide. The > > builders all have Fedora

Re: i386-class support changed in F-13?

2010-06-02 Thread David Michael
Hi, On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 11:42 AM, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: > I wonder what the performance impact is. NOPL appears to be a > variable length NOP (no-op). Obviously a very useful instruction for > things like alignment, and gcc seems to stuff lots of them into the > code: > > $ objdump -d /

Re: -upstart subpackage vs tranditional initscripts

2010-06-02 Thread Jeff Spaleta
On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 5:21 AM, Patrice Dumas wrote: > That being said, it seems that the new init system, systemd is already in > the pipe. Doing a policy for an obsolete technology may be some time > lost. Maybe even better would be preparing a policy for systemd scripts > than doing a policy fo

Re: i386-class support changed in F-13?

2010-06-02 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Wed, Jun 02, 2010 at 12:11:26PM -0400, David Michael wrote: > Hi, > > On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 11:42 AM, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: > > I wonder what the performance impact is. NOPL appears to be a > > variable length NOP (no-op). Obviously a very useful instruction for > > things like alignmen

Re: Package maintainers -- want test results by mail?

2010-06-02 Thread seth vidal
On Wed, 2010-06-02 at 08:54 -0400, Matthias Clasen wrote: > On Wed, 2010-06-02 at 08:36 -0400, seth vidal wrote: > > > > > I think the goal is, of course, to reduce the noise out and focus on > > making sure the packagers know about the truly broken. :) > > > > Another useful goal might be to o

a11y stack change

2010-06-02 Thread Matthias Clasen
Just a heads-up: As part of the ongoing march towards GNOME3, I have switched the accessibility stack to default to the dbus stack (at-spi2-core/at-spi2-atk/pyatspi) instead of the Corba stack (at-spi). Some initial testing shows that orca and caribou seem to work ok. One issue that I've noticed

Re: Package maintainers -- want test results by mail?

2010-06-02 Thread seth vidal
On Wed, 2010-06-02 at 19:07 +0300, Ville Skyttä wrote: > On Wednesday 02 June 2010, Matthias Clasen wrote: > > On Wed, 2010-06-02 at 07:49 -0400, James Laska wrote: > > > > > Which packages do you maintain where the output has become unmanageable? > > > > For myself, I really only think that the s

Re: rebuild of packages dependent on perl

2010-06-02 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Wed, Jun 02, 2010 at 02:25:17PM +0200, Iain Arnell wrote: > On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 9:40 PM, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: > > > > If anyone fancies having a go at fixing perl4caml ..  Debian reported > > a bug compiling this with Perl 5.12 already: > > > > http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.c

Re: -upstart subpackage vs tranditional initscripts

2010-06-02 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Wed, 02.06.10 08:12, Jeff Spaleta (jspal...@gmail.com) wrote: > Assuming moving forward a maintainer has the option to support > sysinitv, upstart and systemd, what can be done to make sure the > correct init configuration is loaded on the system? Other than > including all the configs in the b

Re: culmus-fonts packaging bug / Non-responsive maintainer

2010-06-02 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Thu, 03 Jun 2010 00:07:24 +0900, Mamoru wrote: > Toshio Kuratomi wrote, at 06/02/2010 11:51 PM +9:00: > > On Wed, Jun 02, 2010 at 08:12:08PM +0900, Mamoru Tasaka wrote: > >> Michael Schwendt wrote, at 06/02/2010 06:49 PM +9:00: > >>> http://bugzilla.redhat.com/570819 > >>> > >>> A ticket opened

Re: -upstart subpackage vs tranditional initscripts

2010-06-02 Thread Colin Walters
On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 9:13 AM, Chen Lei wrote: > > Is it right for the maintainer to provide  two separate subpackages, > one with the tranditional rc.d contents and one with an upstart > scripts and make the -upstart subpackage have a higher priority over > sysinit subpackage? No, that's crazy.

Re: -upstart subpackage vs tranditional initscripts

2010-06-02 Thread Jeff Spaleta
On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 8:37 AM, Lennart Poettering wrote: > Handling this with systemd is very easy: you can just drop in a file in > /etc/init.d/foo *AND* /etc/systemd/system/foo.service from the same > package. And then, if something that is not systemd is booted it will > only see the init scri

Re: -upstart subpackage vs tranditional initscripts

2010-06-02 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, Jeff Spaleta said: > On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 8:37 AM, Lennart Poettering > wrote: > > Handling this with systemd is very easy: you can just drop in a file in > > /etc/init.d/foo *AND* /etc/systemd/system/foo.service from the same > > package. And then, if something that is not s

Re: Package maintainers -- want test results by mail?

2010-06-02 Thread Matt McCutchen
On Wed, 2010-06-02 at 14:48 +0200, Ralf Corsepius wrote: > Well, then lets begin: > > # rpmlint yum > yum.noarch: W: self-obsoletion yum-allow-downgrade < 1.1.20-0 obsoletes > yum-allow-downgrade [...] > yum.noarch: W: non-conffile-in-etc /etc/bash_completion.d/yum.bash > yum.noarch: E: non-execu

about php-qa, phpUnderControl and meta packages

2010-06-02 Thread Christof Damian
I am reposting this from fedora php-devel list to get a bigger audience. My questions are not that PHP specific: I got two questions regarding my effort to package more of the php-qa packages for fedora. I have made a package for phpUnderControl now, but to use it you still have to install Cruis

Re: Package maintainers -- want test results by mail?

2010-06-02 Thread Till Maas
On Wed, Jun 02, 2010 at 01:25:01PM -0400, Matt McCutchen wrote: > On Wed, 2010-06-02 at 14:48 +0200, Ralf Corsepius wrote: > > yum.noarch: W: non-conffile-in-etc /etc/bash_completion.d/yum.bash > > yum.noarch: E: non-executable-script > > /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/yum/repos.py 0644L /usr/b

Re: Package maintainers -- want test results by mail?

2010-06-02 Thread Jesse Keating
On Wed, 2010-06-02 at 19:41 +0200, Till Maas wrote: > And I doubt that python scripts in below > /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages usually need to be executable. Since > yum works without any problems, these tons of errors are useless, too. > And they make it only harder to find real errors. I did n

Re: Curiosity, Are Cursor Themes that Critical?

2010-06-02 Thread Geoff Reedy
On Wed, Jun 02, 2010 at 02:42:08AM +0530, Rahul Sundaram said > The former is the default theme and has been added as a dependency to a > core package. You are seeing a cascading set of dependencies as a result. Should that be done through comps? It's not a really required for functionality of th

Re: Package maintainers -- want test results by mail?

2010-06-02 Thread Till Maas
On Wed, Jun 02, 2010 at 10:46:51AM -0700, Jesse Keating wrote: > On Wed, 2010-06-02 at 19:41 +0200, Till Maas wrote: > > And I doubt that python scripts in below > > /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages usually need to be executable. Since > > yum works without any problems, these tons of errors are us

Re: -upstart subpackage vs tranditional initscripts

2010-06-02 Thread Kevin Kofler
Chen Lei wrote: > Is it right for the maintainer to provide two separate subpackages, > one with the tranditional rc.d contents and one with an upstart > scripts and make the -upstart subpackage have a higher priority over > sysinit subpackage? No. This is against our packaging guidelines. You'll

[Bug 597707] please update perl-Software-License to latest upstream release

2010-06-02 Thread bugzilla
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=597707 Fedora Update System changed: What|Removed |Added --

Re: -upstart subpackage vs tranditional initscripts

2010-06-02 Thread Kevin Kofler
Jeff Spaleta wrote: > Even if systemd becomes the default, I doubt upstart is going to disappear > from the repository. Uh, IMHO it should get obsoleted by systemd and removed from the repository. Kevin Kofler -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproje

Re: Package maintainers -- want test results by mail?

2010-06-02 Thread Matt McCutchen
On Wed, 2010-06-02 at 19:41 +0200, Till Maas wrote: > On Wed, Jun 02, 2010 at 01:25:01PM -0400, Matt McCutchen wrote: > > On Wed, 2010-06-02 at 14:48 +0200, Ralf Corsepius wrote: > > > > yum.noarch: W: non-conffile-in-etc /etc/bash_completion.d/yum.bash > > > yum.noarch: E: non-executable-script

Re: -upstart subpackage vs tranditional initscripts

2010-06-02 Thread Jeff Spaleta
On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 9:11 AM, Chris Adams wrote: > That would require systemd to be installed though, since otherwise > /etc/systemd doesn't exist (or every package that wants to drop a file > in there has to own it). > > I guess the directory could be added to chkconfig or even filesystem. Tha

[Bug 597707] please update perl-Software-License to latest upstream release

2010-06-02 Thread bugzilla
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=597707 --- Comment #6 from Fedora Update System 2010-06-02 14:10:01 EDT --- perl-Software-License-0.101410-1.fc13 has been pushed to t

Re: tor-lsb -- hey, look, package script, don't complain to _me_. I'm just installing you.

2010-06-02 Thread Ryan Rix
On Tue 1 June 2010 8:48:02 am Paul Wouters wrote: > I'm getting seriously tired of this tor package discussion every six > months. Seriously, just rip out the childish %post crap, and remove > all the non-fedora initscript sub package nonsense. This is not the > Enrico Project. Halfway there, if y

Re: -upstart subpackage vs tranditional initscripts

2010-06-02 Thread Chen Lei
2010/6/3 Kevin Kofler : > Chen Lei wrote: >> Is it right for the maintainer to provide  two separate subpackages, >> one with the tranditional rc.d contents and one with an upstart >> scripts and make the -upstart subpackage have a higher priority over >> sysinit subpackage? > > No. This is against

Re: -upstart subpackage vs tranditional initscripts

2010-06-02 Thread Matt McCutchen
On Wed, 2010-06-02 at 20:00 +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote: > Chen Lei wrote: > > Is it right for the maintainer to provide two separate subpackages, > > one with the tranditional rc.d contents and one with an upstart > > scripts and make the -upstart subpackage have a higher priority over > > sysinit

Re: Package maintainers -- want test results by mail?

2010-06-02 Thread seth vidal
On Wed, 2010-06-02 at 10:46 -0700, Jesse Keating wrote: > On Wed, 2010-06-02 at 19:41 +0200, Till Maas wrote: > > And I doubt that python scripts in below > > /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages usually need to be executable. Since > > yum works without any problems, these tons of errors are useless,

Re: Package maintainers -- want test results by mail?

2010-06-02 Thread James Antill
On Wed, 2010-06-02 at 13:25 -0400, Matt McCutchen wrote: > On Wed, 2010-06-02 at 14:48 +0200, Ralf Corsepius wrote: > > Well, then lets begin: > > > > # rpmlint yum > > yum.noarch: W: self-obsoletion yum-allow-downgrade < 1.1.20-0 obsoletes > > yum-allow-downgrade [...] > Which of those messages

Re: -upstart subpackage vs tranditional initscripts

2010-06-02 Thread Chen Lei
2010/6/3 Matt McCutchen : > On Wed, 2010-06-02 at 20:00 +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote: >> Chen Lei wrote: >> > Is it right for the maintainer to provide  two separate subpackages, >> > one with the tranditional rc.d contents and one with an upstart >> > scripts and make the -upstart subpackage have a h

Re: Package maintainers -- want test results by mail?

2010-06-02 Thread Jesse Keating
On Wed, 2010-06-02 at 19:59 +0200, Till Maas wrote: > On Wed, Jun 02, 2010 at 10:46:51AM -0700, Jesse Keating wrote: > > On Wed, 2010-06-02 at 19:41 +0200, Till Maas wrote: > > > And I doubt that python scripts in below > > > /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages usually need to be executable. Since > >

Re: -upstart subpackage vs tranditional initscripts

2010-06-02 Thread Michael Cronenworth
Lennart Poettering wrote: > We wanted to make the transition from sysv to systemd very easy, and I > think this is the simplemost scheme we could come up with. During a > transition period packages should just ship both files and it'll work > with both init systems. s/systemd/upstart/ This is not

Re: Package maintainers -- want test results by mail?

2010-06-02 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Wed, Jun 02, 2010 at 07:59:22PM +0200, Till Maas wrote: > On Wed, Jun 02, 2010 at 10:46:51AM -0700, Jesse Keating wrote: > > On Wed, 2010-06-02 at 19:41 +0200, Till Maas wrote: > > > And I doubt that python scripts in below > > > /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages usually need to be executable. Si

Re: FC13 nss-softokn-freebl update issues

2010-06-02 Thread Robert Relyea
On 06/01/2010 11:48 AM, Bill Nottingham wrote: > Elio Maldonado (emald...@redhat.com) said: > >> Not sure but I strongly suspect a change made to nss.spec to be the cause. >> See https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=596840#c7 >> > It's due to the fact that nss-softokn-freebl (actu

suggestion: rescue boot extension

2010-06-02 Thread Jon Masters
Folks, There are various projects implementing LiveCD, rescue, or snapshotted updates. I would like to propose a feature in which some of the rescue/LiveCD bits are (optionally) installed to a spare volume during install such that there's always a rescue/Live boot option that can boot up to a reco

Re: suggestion: rescue boot extension

2010-06-02 Thread seth vidal
On Wed, 2010-06-02 at 15:04 -0400, Jon Masters wrote: > Folks, > > There are various projects implementing LiveCD, rescue, or snapshotted > updates. I would like to propose a feature in which some of the > rescue/LiveCD bits are (optionally) installed to a spare volume during > install such that t

Re: -upstart subpackage vs tranditional initscripts

2010-06-02 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Wed, 02.06.10 13:43, Michael Cronenworth (m...@cchtml.com) wrote: > > Lennart Poettering wrote: > > We wanted to make the transition from sysv to systemd very easy, and I > > think this is the simplemost scheme we could come up with. During a > > transition period packages should just ship bot

Re: -upstart subpackage vs tranditional initscripts

2010-06-02 Thread Tom Lane
Michael Cronenworth writes: > If you can make everyone move away from sysv to something else, then by > all means I'll do my best to aid in patches, but I don't have much > confidence since everything that has been said about systemd has been > said of upstart a few years ago. Instead of reinve

Re: -upstart subpackage vs tranditional initscripts

2010-06-02 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Wed, 02.06.10 15:27, Tom Lane (t...@redhat.com) wrote: > > Michael Cronenworth writes: > > If you can make everyone move away from sysv to something else, then by > > all means I'll do my best to aid in patches, but I don't have much > > confidence since everything that has been said about

Re: FC13 nss-softokn-freebl update issues

2010-06-02 Thread Bill Nottingham
Robert Relyea (rrel...@redhat.com) said: > > It's due to the fact that nss-softokn-freebl (actually, *all* the nss/nspr > > libraires) do not fit the normal library naming, so it's not explicitly > > pulled for > > multilib. For any update or release set that's composed with a package that > > e

Re: suggestion: rescue boot extension

2010-06-02 Thread Bill Nottingham
Jon Masters (jonat...@jonmasters.org) said: > There are various projects implementing LiveCD, rescue, or snapshotted > updates. I would like to propose a feature in which some of the > rescue/LiveCD bits are (optionally) installed to a spare volume during > install such that there's always a rescu

Re: suggestion: rescue boot extension

2010-06-02 Thread Jon Masters
On Wed, 2010-06-02 at 15:54 -0400, Bill Nottingham wrote: > Jon Masters (jonat...@jonmasters.org) said: > > There are various projects implementing LiveCD, rescue, or snapshotted > > updates. I would like to propose a feature in which some of the > > rescue/LiveCD bits are (optionally) installed t

Re: suggestion: rescue boot extension

2010-06-02 Thread Roland McGrath
> Hm. I can see the use of this, but I can also see issues with how you > do updates for it sanely (if at all.) Why would you do updates for it? Your install CD/DVD to use for rescue boot doesn't get updated. I'd think you'd just install a pristine newer one verbatim if you had a reason to bothe

Re: suggestion: rescue boot extension

2010-06-02 Thread Jon Masters
On Wed, 2010-06-02 at 13:03 -0700, Roland McGrath wrote: > > Hm. I can see the use of this, but I can also see issues with how you > > do updates for it sanely (if at all.) > > Why would you do updates for it? Your install CD/DVD to use for rescue > boot doesn't get updated. I'd think you'd just

Re: -upstart subpackage vs tranditional initscripts

2010-06-02 Thread Jeff Spaleta
On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 10:43 AM, Michael Cronenworth wrote: > Lennart Poettering wrote: > If you can make everyone move away from sysv to something else, then by > all means I'll do my best to aid in patches, but I don't have much > confidence since everything that has been said about systemd has

Re: suggestion: rescue boot extension

2010-06-02 Thread Eric Sandeen
Jon Masters wrote: > On Wed, 2010-06-02 at 13:03 -0700, Roland McGrath wrote: >>> Hm. I can see the use of this, but I can also see issues with how you >>> do updates for it sanely (if at all.) >> Why would you do updates for it? Your install CD/DVD to use for rescue >> boot doesn't get updated.

Re: Package maintainers -- want test results by mail?

2010-06-02 Thread Ville Skyttä
On Wednesday 02 June 2010, James Antill wrote: > The self obsolete ones are wrong, being able to do: > > Name: foo > Provide: bar = 2 > Obsolete: bar <= 2 > > ...is completely legal and needed for rename/merging Yes (assuming you mean "Obsoletes: bar < 2", not "<= 2"). > which is why yum has

Re: Package maintainers -- want test results by mail?

2010-06-02 Thread Ville Skyttä
On Wednesday 02 June 2010, Matt McCutchen wrote: > The right thing to do is to file a bug against bash-completion to get > that decision made and then implement it, either by marking the file as > config or moving /etc/bash_completion.d to /usr/share. The warning is > not wrong. Moving to /usr/s

Re: suggestion: rescue boot extension

2010-06-02 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Wed, Jun 02, 2010 at 03:13:21PM -0500, Eric Sandeen wrote: > Jon Masters wrote: > > On Wed, 2010-06-02 at 13:03 -0700, Roland McGrath wrote: > >>> Hm. I can see the use of this, but I can also see issues with how you > >>> do updates for it sanely (if at all.) > >> Why would you do updates for i

Re: suggestion: rescue boot extension

2010-06-02 Thread Eric Sandeen
Richard W.M. Jones wrote: > On Wed, Jun 02, 2010 at 03:13:21PM -0500, Eric Sandeen wrote: >> Jon Masters wrote: >>> On Wed, 2010-06-02 at 13:03 -0700, Roland McGrath wrote: > Hm. I can see the use of this, but I can also see issues with how you > do updates for it sanely (if at all.) W

Re: Package maintainers -- want test results by mail?

2010-06-02 Thread Ville Skyttä
On Wednesday 02 June 2010, Ralf Corsepius wrote: > binutils.x86_64: W: spelling-error %description -l en_US addr -> add, > adder, adds This is a genuine bug, I'll try to have a look into and/or work around it. Enchant appears to tokenize "addr2line" into two words and naturally ends up flaggin

Re: suggestion: rescue boot extension

2010-06-02 Thread Jon Masters
On Wed, 2010-06-02 at 21:22 +0100, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: > On Wed, Jun 02, 2010 at 03:13:21PM -0500, Eric Sandeen wrote: > > Is it better to have a separate volume for this, or to just have a sort > > of rescue initramfs ...? > > Or if you are able to run a little bit of C code[1] and can rea

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