Re: Sindre Pedersen Bjørdal is AWOL, 25 packages looking for new owners

2010-02-03 Thread Thomas Spura
Am Mittwoch, den 03.02.2010, 00:15 +0100 schrieb Christoph Wickert: > * pychess -- Chess game for GNOME I've taken this. -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: --host=i386-redhat-linux-gnu --target=i686-redhat-linux-gnu ???

2010-02-03 Thread Panu Matilainen
On Tue, 2 Feb 2010, Bill Nottingham wrote: > Panu Matilainen (pmati...@laiskiainen.org) said: >>> %{_host} is set by the rpm package in the macros file, %{_build} defaults >>> to the value of %{_host}. %{_target_platform} comes from --target on >>> the command line, plus the usual vendor/OS bits >

A comps OpenOffice.org-devel group ?

2010-02-03 Thread Caolán McNamara
As per http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/PackageMaintainers/CompsXml I'm wondering if a OpenOffice.org-development group makes sense for Comps ? I see that openoffice.org-testtools and openoffice.org-pyuno are listed at the moment in comps under Office/Productivity. Both of those are targeted at devel

Re: Sindre Pedersen Bjørdal is AWOL, 25 packa ges looking for new owners

2010-02-03 Thread Christian Krause
Hi, On 02/03/2010 12:15 AM, Christoph Wickert wrote: > * gnome-do -- Quick launch and search > * notify-sharp -- A C# implementation for Desktop Notifications > * solfege -- Music education software I have taken these. Best regards, Christian -- devel mailing list devel@li

review swaps and looking for new (co-)maintainers

2010-02-03 Thread Dan Horák
Hello, I have few packages in the review queue and would do a swap with someone scribus-stable https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=519135 uboot-mkimage https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=520569 (Fedora/ARM specific, some discussion still needed) flash-kernel https://bugzilla.redh

Re: Reordering in package changelogs (was Re: rawhide report: 20100129 changes)

2010-02-03 Thread Nicolas Mailhot
Le Mar 2 février 2010 22:11, Kevin Kofler a écrit : > > Nicolas Mailhot wrote: >> This changelog style conforms to the existing spec, it has been in use in >> Fedora for several years, it may surprise you, but changing the spec >> retroactively is not the way to prove your point. > > Uh, the Fedo

Heads-up: Dropping .la files from Imlib2

2010-02-03 Thread Tomáš Smetana
Hello, I have removed the libtool archives from the imlib2-* packages. I don't think they're are required by any other package, but I might be wrong. If you maintain a package depending on imlib2 and it's subpackages, please verify this change is OK for you. Thanks and regards. -- Tomáš Smetan

Re: Reordering in package changelogs (was Re: rawhide report: 20100129 changes)

2010-02-03 Thread Nicolas Mailhot
Le Mar 2 février 2010 21:14, Björn Persson a écrit : > Nicolas Mailhot wrote: >> This changelog style conforms to the existing spec, it has been in use in >> Fedora for several years, it may surprise you, but changing the spec >> retroactively is not the way to prove your point. > > There's a spe

Re: Board efforts: scope, concept, and permission?

2010-02-03 Thread Josh Boyer
On Tue, Feb 02, 2010 at 09:38:38PM -0500, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: >On Tue, Feb 02, 2010 at 07:52:55PM -0500, Josh Boyer wrote: >> On Tue, Feb 02, 2010 at 05:16:14PM -0500, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: >> >On Tue, Feb 02, 2010 at 01:11:47PM -0800, Jesse Keating wrote: >> >> The way things are now "works" b

Re: FC12: Hidden files in /usr/bin/*

2010-02-03 Thread Tomas Mraz
On Tue, 2010-02-02 at 21:54 +0100, Till Maas wrote: > On Tue, Feb 02, 2010 at 09:30:44PM +0100, Tomas Mraz wrote: > > On Tue, 2010-02-02 at 20:13 +0100, Till Maas wrote: > > > On Tue, Feb 02, 2010 at 10:28:11AM +0100, Tomas Mraz wrote: > > > > > > > I am sorry, but I do not see a real need for s

Re: FC12: Hidden files in /usr/bin/*

2010-02-03 Thread Tomas Mraz
On Tue, 2010-02-02 at 22:56 +0100, Björn Persson wrote: > Tomas Mraz wrote: > > The library will work fine and it will not compute the checksum at all > > if the FIPS mode is not enabled which is the normal situation. > > Then perhaps FIPS mode can be left disabled until /usr has been mounted, so

Re: Board efforts: scope, concept, and permission?

2010-02-03 Thread Josh Boyer
On Tue, Feb 02, 2010 at 09:41:11PM -0500, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: >On Tue, Feb 02, 2010 at 07:56:53PM -0500, Josh Boyer wrote: >> On Tue, Feb 02, 2010 at 05:33:02PM -0500, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: >> >On Tue, Feb 02, 2010 at 04:16:30PM -0600, Mike McGrath wrote: >> >> On Tue, 2 Feb 2010, Toshio Kurato

Re: Board efforts: scope, concept, and permission?

2010-02-03 Thread Josh Boyer
On Wed, Feb 03, 2010 at 12:44:08AM -0800, Ryan Rix wrote: >On Tue 2 February 2010 9:10:13 pm Jesse Keating wrote: >> What functionality has been lost here? > >Working KDM, for one... Installing from the live DVD (as Kevin Kofler >mentioned earlier) is essentially broken if you want KDE as the prim

Re: --host=i386-redhat-linux-gnu --target=i686-redhat-linux-gnu ???

2010-02-03 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 02/03/2010 10:05 AM, Panu Matilainen wrote: > On Tue, 2 Feb 2010, Bill Nottingham wrote: > >> Panu Matilainen (pmati...@laiskiainen.org) said: %{_host} is set by the rpm package in the macros file, %{_build} defaults to the value of %{_host}. %{_target_platform} comes from --target on

Re: --host=i386-redhat-linux-gnu --target=i686-redhat-linux-gnu ???

2010-02-03 Thread Panu Matilainen
On Wed, 3 Feb 2010, Ralf Corsepius wrote: > On 02/03/2010 10:05 AM, Panu Matilainen wrote: >> On Tue, 2 Feb 2010, Bill Nottingham wrote: >> >>> Panu Matilainen (pmati...@laiskiainen.org) said: > %{_host} is set by the rpm package in the macros file, %{_build} > defaults > to the valu

Re: Sindre Pedersen Bjørdal is AWOL, 25 packa ges looking for new owners

2010-02-03 Thread Jon Ciesla
Christoph Wickert wrote: > Sindre Pedersen Bjørdal was declared to be MIA in a fast track > nonresponsive maintainer procedure [1, 2]. This means that we had to > orphan all his packages, 25 in total: > > * DMitry -- Deepmagic Information Gathering Tool > * arp-scan -- Scanning and fin

Re: Sindre Pedersen Bjørd al is AWOL, 25 packages looking for new owners

2010-02-03 Thread Sven Lankes
On Wed, Feb 03, 2010 at 12:15:41AM +0100, Christoph Wickert wrote: > * xdotool -- Fake keyboard/mouse input I have taken xdotool which I was co-maintaining before. -- sven === jabber/xmpp: s...@lankes.net -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mail

Re: --host=i386-redhat-linux-gnu --target=i686-redhat-linux-gnu ???

2010-02-03 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 02/03/2010 02:20 PM, Panu Matilainen wrote: > On Wed, 3 Feb 2010, Ralf Corsepius wrote: > >> On 02/03/2010 10:05 AM, Panu Matilainen wrote: >>> On Tue, 2 Feb 2010, Bill Nottingham wrote: >>> Panu Matilainen (pmati...@laiskiainen.org) said: >> %{_host} is set by the rpm package in the ma

rawhide report: 20100203 changes

2010-02-03 Thread Rawhide Report
Compose started at Wed Feb 3 08:15:11 UTC 2010 Broken deps for i386 -- PySolFC-cardsets-1.1-5.2.noarch requires PySolFC = 0:1.1 PySolFC-music-4.40-5.noarch requires PySolFC = 0:1.1 doodle-0.6.7-5.fc12.i686 requires li

Re: Board efforts: scope, concept, and permission?

2010-02-03 Thread John Poelstra
Mike McGrath said the following on 02/02/2010 09:01 AM Pacific Time: > This particular question has already been answered, I've not yet put it on > the wiki yet. The notes from our last meeting yesterday hasn't gone to > the list, I'll update the wiki today though. The notes from our last meeting

Re: Board efforts: scope, concept, and permission?

2010-02-03 Thread John Poelstra
Adam Miller said the following on 02/02/2010 08:28 AM Pacific Time: > Hello all, > I wanted to bring a few things up and I wanted to bring them up on > de...@lists.fp.o because this is where most people spend their time. Please consider that most of the things you are referring to have not b

Re: Board efforts: scope, concept, and permission?

2010-02-03 Thread Mike McGrath
On Tue, 2 Feb 2010, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: > On Tue, Feb 02, 2010 at 06:33:52PM -0600, Mike McGrath wrote: > > > > spins don't help this situation. > > > They do. I tried to switch from the Desktop spin to the KDE spin in F10 and > ended up without a usable desktop environment. Reinstalled from

[Bug 561389] New: amavisd-new always reports Shutting down amavisd: Daemon [19248] terminated by SIGTERM

2010-02-03 Thread bugzilla
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. Summary: amavisd-new always reports Shutting down amavisd: Daemon [19248] terminated by SIGTERM https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=561389 Summary: amavisd-new

Re: A comps OpenOffice.org-devel group ?

2010-02-03 Thread Bill Nottingham
Caolán McNamara (caol...@redhat.com) said: > As per http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/PackageMaintainers/CompsXml I'm > wondering if a OpenOffice.org-development group makes sense for Comps ? > > I see that openoffice.org-testtools and openoffice.org-pyuno are listed > at the moment in comps under Of

Re: Board efforts: scope, concept, and permission?

2010-02-03 Thread Bill Nottingham
Toshio Kuratomi (a.bad...@gmail.com) said: > > Would that mean that users who don't start with one of these 'products' > > get to magically try and choose which implementation of which they want? > > Perhaps even mix and match, leaving QA and the developers to sort out > > the results. > > > Nope

[Bug 561404] New: This package should be removed (perl-NOCpulse-Gritch)

2010-02-03 Thread bugzilla
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. Summary: This package should be removed (perl-NOCpulse-Gritch) https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=561404 Summary: This package should be removed (perl-NOCpulse-

Re: Board efforts: scope, concept, and permission?

2010-02-03 Thread Bill Nottingham
Mike McGrath (mmcgr...@redhat.com) said: > I really don't know what our users are a measure of. I don't think it's > marketing as inode0 suggests, because the people using Fedora already know > about it. But if we step back and take our users seriously. We'll find > that since Fedora Core 6 rel

Re: Board efforts: scope, concept, and permission?

2010-02-03 Thread Adam Miller
On Wed, Feb 3, 2010 at 9:36 AM, John Poelstra wrote: > These are *working drafts and in process documents* all the in spirit of > transparency.  It would be more helpful to these discussions to get > clarification on advisory-board first rather than conclude that the > board has run off the rails

[Bug 561409] New: This package should be removed (perl-NOCpulse-Utils)

2010-02-03 Thread bugzilla
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. Summary: This package should be removed (perl-NOCpulse-Utils) https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=561409 Summary: This package should be removed (perl-NOCpulse-U

Re: Board efforts: scope, concept, and permission?

2010-02-03 Thread Przemek Klosowski
On 02/02/2010 09:07 PM, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: >>> * A user who downloads any one of these products gets a different experience >>>than someone who downloads one of the others. >>> * Switching from one product to another is not an easy task of merely >>>installing one package group and rem

Re: Board efforts: scope, concept, and permission?

2010-02-03 Thread John Poelstra
Adam Miller said the following on 02/03/2010 08:02 AM Pacific Time: > On Wed, Feb 3, 2010 at 9:36 AM, John Poelstra wrote: > >> These are *working drafts and in process documents* all the in spirit of >> transparency. It would be more helpful to these discussions to get >> clarification on advis

REMINDER: Re: Sindre Pedersen Bjørdal is AWOL, 25 packages looking for new owners

2010-02-03 Thread Kevin Fenzi
Just a reminder here folks. If you take over an orphaned package, please remember to check for any open bugs on the package and re-assign them to yourself. This won't happen automatically, so you will need to make sure and do it manually. If you don't those bugs will stay assigned to the old main

[Bug 561409] This package should be removed (perl-NOCpulse-Utils)

2010-02-03 Thread bugzilla
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=561409 Miroslav Suchý changed: What|Removed |Added

[Bug 561404] This package should be removed (perl-NOCpulse-Gritch)

2010-02-03 Thread bugzilla
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=561404 Miroslav Suchý changed: What|Removed |Added

Re: Board efforts: scope, concept, and permission?

2010-02-03 Thread Jesse Keating
On Wed, 2010-02-03 at 11:23 -0500, Przemek Klosowski wrote: > I don't understand why 'Electronic Design Lab' is a separate spin: if I > install all the EDA-related packages that it contains, would I not get > an equivalent capability? > > The only reason I can think of is the media capacity limi

Bodhi borked?

2010-02-03 Thread Linus Walleij
What's this now... li...@fecusia F-12]$ make update * Wed Feb 2 2010 Linus Walleij 1.0.2-1 - New upstream version, lots of bug fixes. Creating a new update for libmtp-1.0.2-1.fc12 ServerError(https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/save, 500, Internal Server Error) Traceback (most recent call l

Re: A comps OpenOffice.org-devel group ?

2010-02-03 Thread Iain Arnell
On Wed, Feb 3, 2010 at 4:45 PM, Bill Nottingham wrote: > > We don't really have app-specific development groups at the moment - heck, > we don't have python or perl development groups. We certainly have Perl Development in comps already. -- Iain. -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject

Re: Bodhi borked?

2010-02-03 Thread Stephen Gallagher
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 02/03/2010 11:50 AM, Linus Walleij wrote: > What's this now... > > li...@fecusia F-12]$ make update > * Wed Feb 2 2010 Linus Walleij 1.0.2-1 > - New upstream version, lots of bug fixes. > > Creating a new update for libmtp-1.0.2-1.fc12 > ServerE

Re: Board efforts: scope, concept, and permission?

2010-02-03 Thread Adam Miller
On Wed, Feb 3, 2010 at 10:26 AM, John Poelstra wrote: > Thanks for your clarification.  I think it is great to ask questions, I > ask a lot of them myself.  I question how productive it is to all of us > though, to ask questions if the starting point of those questions is > incorrect. > > My sens

Re: Board efforts: scope, concept, and permission?

2010-02-03 Thread Kevin Kofler
Josh Boyer wrote: > It is. It's one step removed. There were people actively wanting to make > Zope/Plone work via a compat-python stack. It went all the way to FESCo > and got voted down. The zope/plone users were the target audience there. > There were people willing to do the work, all they

Re: Board efforts: scope, concept, and permission?

2010-02-03 Thread Kevin Kofler
Mike McGrath wrote: > Spins didn't help, reinstalling did. No. His problem was with switching desktop environment. It was solved by reinstalling with the spin for the target environment, getting the exact package selection optimized for that target environment. (That said, adding KDE to a syste

Re: Board efforts: scope, concept, and permission?

2010-02-03 Thread Kevin Kofler
Josh Boyer wrote: > On Wed, Feb 03, 2010 at 12:44:08AM -0800, Ryan Rix wrote: >>On Tue 2 February 2010 9:10:13 pm Jesse Keating wrote: >>> What functionality has been lost here? >> >>Working KDM, for one... Installing from the live DVD (as Kevin Kofler >>mentioned earlier) is essentially broken if

Re: pkg-config standards for .pc file location?

2010-02-03 Thread Ville Skyttä
On Wednesday 03 February 2010, Matthew Saltzman wrote: > On Tue, 2010-02-02 at 19:16 -0500, Matthias Clasen wrote: > > On Tue, 2010-02-02 at 19:04 -0500, Matthew Saltzman wrote: > > > I work on another open-source project that is considering using > > > pkg-config, and we are trying to establish st

Re: Board efforts: scope, concept, and permission?

2010-02-03 Thread Kevin Kofler
Josh Boyer wrote: > The Board is responsible for Fedora overall. They are concerned with > Fedora uptake and ways of increasing contribution. Based on that, they > are trying to come up with personas that seem a likely candidate to use > and eventually contribute to Fedora. Based on that, they a

Re: Board efforts: scope, concept, and permission?

2010-02-03 Thread Kevin Kofler
Przemek Klosowski wrote: > Spins make sense when there is a deep-reaching feature that touches a > majority of packages on the system. Examples include: > > - the desktop environment with all the supporting runtime libs … and applications! Our spins also select core applications (file manager, t

Re: Board efforts: scope, concept, and permission?

2010-02-03 Thread Matthew Miller
On Wed, Feb 03, 2010 at 07:23:22PM +0100, Kevin Kofler wrote: > to in the first place. There should be no one default! There should be a set > of 2 or 3 primary spins (GNOME, KDE and possibly some third option, probably > something lightweight and/or netbook-oriented) to choose from as equal > f

Retiring gnome-applet-netspeed

2010-02-03 Thread Julian Sikorski
Hello, today I have decided to retire gnome-applet-netspeed. The upstream repository has not seen a single commit which is not a translation in ages, and with abrt running I'm getting crash reports filed every now and then [1-3]. So, I think that the best way to handle this case is to retire the p

Re: Board efforts: scope, concept, and permission?

2010-02-03 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, Kevin Kofler said: > Yes, but having a spin with them already on it is much simpler for its > target audience. (That said, I wouldn't use it since they moved away from > KDE to GNOME. :-/ If I needed FEL, I'd rather either groupinstall their > comps group on a KDE spin install

Re: Board efforts: scope, concept, and permission?

2010-02-03 Thread Kevin Kofler
John Poelstra wrote: > I guess what I'm trying to get at here is that we've posted all meeting > recaps to advisory-board list and there has been ZERO discussion or > inquiries there. We specifically asked for feedback to the original > list of "unanswered questions" on advisory-board. Is there a

Re: REMINDER: Re: Sindre Pe dersen Bjørda l is AWOL, 25 packages looking for new owners

2010-02-03 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Wed, Feb 03, 2010 at 09:43:39AM -0700, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > Just a reminder here folks. If you take over an orphaned package, > please remember to check for any open bugs on the package and > re-assign them to yourself. This won't happen automatically, so you > will need to make sure and do it m

Re: Board efforts: scope, concept, and permission?

2010-02-03 Thread inode0
On Wed, Feb 3, 2010 at 10:26 AM, John Poelstra wrote: > Adam Miller said the following on 02/03/2010 08:02 AM Pacific Time: >> I'm not on some crusade to undermine the Board if that's what you >> think, I'm honestly looking for clarification but not only from those >> involved in the Board but the

[Bug 484865] perl-Net-IPv4Addr : Conflicts with other packages

2010-02-03 Thread bugzilla
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=484865 Iain Arnell changed: What|Removed |Added ---

Re: Board efforts: scope, concept, and permission?

2010-02-03 Thread Adam Miller
On Wed, Feb 3, 2010 at 12:35 PM, Chris Adams wrote: > Once upon a time, Kevin Kofler said: >> Yes, but having a spin with them already on it is much simpler for its >> target audience. (That said, I wouldn't use it since they moved away from >> KDE to GNOME. :-/ If I needed FEL, I'd rather either

Re: Board efforts: scope, concept, and permission?

2010-02-03 Thread Chris Lumens
> Would it be possible to put spin kickstarts on the common install DVD, > with an option in anaconda to choose them (and notes that network access > may be required for some packages)? This would give an easier way to > install alternate spins, without having to download and burn lots of > CDs, b

Re: Board efforts: scope, concept, and permission?

2010-02-03 Thread Bill Nottingham
Chris Lumens (clum...@redhat.com) said: > > Would it be possible to put spin kickstarts on the common install DVD, > > with an option in anaconda to choose them (and notes that network access > > may be required for some packages)? This would give an easier way to > > install alternate spins, wit

Re: Board efforts: scope, concept, and permission?

2010-02-03 Thread Bill Nottingham
Kevin Kofler (kevin.kof...@chello.at) said: > John Poelstra wrote: > > I guess what I'm trying to get at here is that we've posted all meeting > > recaps to advisory-board list and there has been ZERO discussion or > > inquiries there. We specifically asked for feedback to the original > > list o

Packaging Committee Meeting Summary (2010-02-03)

2010-02-03 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
Commitee members present abadger1999 hansg tibbs racor rdieter SmootherFrOgZ Committee members absent rathann limburgher (technical difficulties) spot (parental duties) We approved two guidelines: SRPM Buildtime macros https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SRPM_Buildtime_macros For: 5 hansg, Smooth

Comaintaining a package

2010-02-03 Thread Alain Portal
Hi, I should want to know which is the process to request to comaintain a package. Regards, Alain -- Les pages de manuel Linux en français http://manpagesfr.free.fr signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://

Re: Comaintaining a package

2010-02-03 Thread Oliver Falk
Am 03.02.2010 20:39, schrieb Alain Portal: > I should want to know which is the process to request to comaintain a package. Ask the main maintainer. If he/she is OK with your request, you can request the ACLs on the pkgdb. -of -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fe

Re: Board efforts: scope, concept, and permission?

2010-02-03 Thread Przemek Klosowski
On 02/03/2010 11:46 AM, Jesse Keating wrote: > On Wed, 2010-02-03 at 11:23 -0500, Przemek Klosowski wrote: >> I don't understand why 'Electronic Design Lab' is a separate spin: if I >> install all the EDA-related packages that it contains, would I not get >> an equivalent capability? >> >> The only

Re: pkg-config standards for .pc file location?

2010-02-03 Thread Matthew Saltzman
On Wed, 2010-02-03 at 20:22 +0200, Ville Skyttä wrote: > On Wednesday 03 February 2010, Matthew Saltzman wrote: > > On Tue, 2010-02-02 at 19:16 -0500, Matthias Clasen wrote: > > > On Tue, 2010-02-02 at 19:04 -0500, Matthew Saltzman wrote: > > > > I work on another open-source project that is consi

Re: Comaintaining a package

2010-02-03 Thread Alain Portal
Le mercredi 03 février 2010 20:41:42, Oliver Falk a écrit : > Am 03.02.2010 20:39, schrieb Alain Portal: > > I should want to know which is the process to request to comaintain a > > package. > > Ask the main maintainer. If he/she is OK with your request, you can > request the ACLs on the pkgdb.

Re: Packaging Committee Meeting Summary (2010-02-03)

2010-02-03 Thread Nicolas Mailhot
Le mercredi 03 février 2010 à 14:29 -0500, Toshio Kuratomi a écrit : > We approved two guidelines: > > SRPM Buildtime macros https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SRPM_Buildtime_macros > For: 5 hansg, SmootherFrOgZ, tibbs, abadger1999, rdieter > Against: 0 While I don't really see the need for out-of

[389-devel] Please review (revised): [Bug 560827] Admin Server templates: DistinguishName validation fails

2010-02-03 Thread Noriko Hosoi
Thanks to Rich and Nathan for their comments and even debugging my code :). I revised the proposal based upon their suggestions. Summary: Admin Server templates: DistinguishName validation fails https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=560827 Description of problem: Some template file cont

Re: Board efforts: scope, concept, and permission?

2010-02-03 Thread Jesse Keating
On Wed, 2010-02-03 at 12:54 -0600, inode0 wrote: > > I believe that what fundamentally makes the Fedora Project a great > place to be is that it is an open community where the participants > share a group of core values that guide them both individually and > collectively toward an unwritten end t

Re: Packaging Committee Meeting Summary (2010-02-03)

2010-02-03 Thread Jesse Keating
On Wed, 2010-02-03 at 22:19 +0100, Nicolas Mailhot wrote: > A side-effect, is that spec parsers that read the file in a buildroot > which is missing the package providing the macro, will sometimes think > the macro call is part of the subpackage %summary. This is > unfortunate, > but I don't see ho

Re: Packaging Committee Meeting Summary (2010-02-03)

2010-02-03 Thread Nicolas Mailhot
Le mercredi 03 février 2010 à 13:28 -0800, Jesse Keating a écrit : > On Wed, 2010-02-03 at 22:19 +0100, Nicolas Mailhot wrote: > > A side-effect, is that spec parsers that read the file in a buildroot > > which is missing the package providing the macro, will sometimes think > > the macro call is p

File BZ-Client-1.03.tar.gz uploaded to lookaside cache by eseyman

2010-02-03 Thread Emmanuel Seyman
A file has been added to the lookaside cache for perl-BZ-Client: 0e6eb6509afa40d9c03e9ee96d1f273f BZ-Client-1.03.tar.gz -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl perl-devel mailing list perl-de...@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/l

Re: Board efforts: scope, concept, and permission?

2010-02-03 Thread Dave Airlie
On Wed, 2010-02-03 at 19:08 +0100, Kevin Kofler wrote: > Josh Boyer wrote: > > It is. It's one step removed. There were people actively wanting to make > > Zope/Plone work via a compat-python stack. It went all the way to FESCo > > and got voted down. The zope/plone users were the target audien

Re: Packaging Committee Meeting Summary (2010-02-03)

2010-02-03 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Wed, Feb 03, 2010 at 10:55:25PM +0100, Nicolas Mailhot wrote: > Le mercredi 03 février 2010 à 13:28 -0800, Jesse Keating a écrit : > > On Wed, 2010-02-03 at 22:19 +0100, Nicolas Mailhot wrote: > > > A side-effect, is that spec parsers that read the file in a buildroot > > > which is missing the

Re: Board efforts: scope, concept, and permission?

2010-02-03 Thread inode0
On Wed, Feb 3, 2010 at 3:26 PM, Jesse Keating wrote: > On Wed, 2010-02-03 at 12:54 -0600, inode0 wrote: >> >> I believe that what fundamentally makes the Fedora Project a great >> place to be is that it is an open community where the participants >> share a group of core values that guide them bot

Re: Packaging Committee Meeting Summary (2010-02-03)

2010-02-03 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Wed, Feb 03, 2010 at 02:29:18PM -0500, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: > > The committee started voting on new Guidelines for python modules that > includes Guidelines for python3 but suffered network difficulties in the > middle of the discussion. This will ocntinue on the packaging mailing list > and

Re: Board efforts: scope, concept, and permission?

2010-02-03 Thread Jesse Keating
On Wed, 2010-02-03 at 16:25 -0600, inode0 wrote: > On Wed, Feb 3, 2010 at 3:26 PM, Jesse Keating wrote: > > On Wed, 2010-02-03 at 12:54 -0600, inode0 wrote: > >> > >> I believe that what fundamentally makes the Fedora Project a great > >> place to be is that it is an open community where the parti

Re: Packaging Committee Meeting Summary (2010-02-03)

2010-02-03 Thread Nicolas Mailhot
Le mercredi 03 février 2010 à 17:14 -0500, Toshio Kuratomi a écrit : > On Wed, Feb 03, 2010 at 10:55:25PM +0100, Nicolas Mailhot wrote: > > Le mercredi 03 février 2010 à 13:28 -0800, Jesse Keating a écrit : > > > On Wed, 2010-02-03 at 22:19 +0100, Nicolas Mailhot wrote: > > > > A side-effect, is th

Outage Notification - 2010-02-03 23:00 UTC

2010-02-03 Thread Mike McGrath
There will be an outage starting at 2010-02-03 23:00 UTC, which will last approximately 1 hour. To convert UTC to your local time, take a look at http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/UTCHowto or run: date -d '2010-02-03 23:00 UTC' Affected Services: Bodhi Buildsystem CVS / Source Contro

Re: Packaging Committee Meeting Summary (2010-02-03)

2010-02-03 Thread Nicolas Mailhot
Le mercredi 03 février 2010 à 23:46 +0100, Nicolas Mailhot a écrit : > Le mercredi 03 février 2010 à 17:14 -0500, Toshio Kuratomi a écrit : > > On Wed, Feb 03, 2010 at 10:55:25PM +0100, Nicolas Mailhot wrote: > > > Le mercredi 03 février 2010 à 13:28 -0800, Jesse Keating a écrit : > > > > On Wed, 2

Re: Board efforts: scope, concept, and permission?

2010-02-03 Thread inode0
On Wed, Feb 3, 2010 at 4:35 PM, Jesse Keating wrote: > On Wed, 2010-02-03 at 16:25 -0600, inode0 wrote: > Since we can't act as a single hive mind, we have to come to some sort > of agreement, and to do so, we need guidelines rather than "whatever I > feel like today".  You seem to be sidestepping

Re: Packaging Committee Meeting Summary (2010-02-03)

2010-02-03 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Wed, Feb 03, 2010 at 11:48:52PM +0100, Nicolas Mailhot wrote: > Le mercredi 03 février 2010 à 23:46 +0100, Nicolas Mailhot a écrit : > > adf-accanthis-fonts is probably the most recent "complex" font package > > but I wouldn't vouch the declaration happens exactly in the same order > > in all fo

Re: Board efforts: scope, concept, and permission?

2010-02-03 Thread Jesse Keating
On Wed, 2010-02-03 at 17:05 -0600, inode0 wrote: > Guilty as charged. The Board, Steering Committees, various guidelines > exist and have been used to resolve conflicts for years, right? > > This is about more than conflict resolution, isn't it? This is about > giving direction to the efforts of t

Reminder: Fedora 13 Feature Freeze in Six Days (2010-02-09)

2010-02-03 Thread John Poelstra
Greetings, A friendly reminder that this coming Tuesday, February 9, 2010, is FEATURE FREEZE. Feature Freeze means that all accepted feature for the release are *significantly* "feature complete", ready for testing, and have a current status. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Feature_Freeze_Poli

library bump heads up: clutter

2010-02-03 Thread Peter Robinson
Hi All, Just to let you know I'm about to push clutter 1.1.6 to rawhide. soname major hasn't changed so there shouldn't be an issue and it all seems fine from the testing I've done on my local rawhide system. Peter -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.o

Re: pkg-config standards for .pc file location?

2010-02-03 Thread Braden McDaniel
On Tue, 2010-02-02 at 21:11 -0500, Matthew Saltzman wrote: > On Tue, 2010-02-02 at 19:16 -0500, Matthias Clasen wrote: > > On Tue, 2010-02-02 at 19:04 -0500, Matthew Saltzman wrote: > > > I work on another open-source project that is considering using > > > pkg-config, and we are trying to establ

Re: Board efforts: scope, concept, and permission?

2010-02-03 Thread Mike McGrath
On Wed, 3 Feb 2010, Mike McGrath wrote: > > I really don't know what our users are a measure of. I don't think it's > marketing as inode0 suggests, because the people using Fedora already know > about it. But if we step back and take our users seriously. We'll find > that since Fedora Core 6 rel

Re: Board efforts: scope, concept, and permission?

2010-02-03 Thread inode0
On Wed, Feb 3, 2010 at 8:28 PM, Mike McGrath wrote: > On Wed, 3 Feb 2010, Mike McGrath wrote: >> >> I really don't know what our users are a measure of.  I don't think it's >> marketing as inode0 suggests, because the people using Fedora already know >> about it.  But if we step back and take our

Re: Board efforts: scope, concept, and permission?

2010-02-03 Thread Mike McGrath
On Wed, 3 Feb 2010, inode0 wrote: > On Wed, Feb 3, 2010 at 8:28 PM, Mike McGrath wrote: > > On Wed, 3 Feb 2010, Mike McGrath wrote: > >> > >> I really don't know what our users are a measure of.  I don't think it's > >> marketing as inode0 suggests, because the people using Fedora already know >

Re: Board efforts: scope, concept, and permission?

2010-02-03 Thread inode0
On Wed, Feb 3, 2010 at 8:51 PM, Mike McGrath wrote: > On Wed, 3 Feb 2010, inode0 wrote: >> Sadly they don't have categories like the best linux distribution for >> developers there. >> > > Is that what we're doing?  If so would we win it? One thing I know that I am not doing is competing with Ubu

Re: Board efforts: scope, concept, and permission?

2010-02-03 Thread Adam Miller
+1 inode0 -AdamM from Android(CM) On Feb 3, 2010 9:29 PM, "inode0" wrote: On Wed, Feb 3, 2010 at 8:51 PM, Mike McGrath wrote: > On Wed, 3 Feb 2010, inod... One thing I know that I am not doing is competing with Ubuntu for the market it appeals to. Another thing I know that I am not doing is tr

Re: Packaging Committee Meeting Summary (2010-02-03)

2010-02-03 Thread Nicolas Mailhot
Le mercredi 03 février 2010 à 18:33 -0500, Toshio Kuratomi a écrit : > On Wed, Feb 03, 2010 at 11:48:52PM +0100, Nicolas Mailhot wrote: > > Le mercredi 03 février 2010 à 23:46 +0100, Nicolas Mailhot a écrit : > > > adf-accanthis-fonts is probably the most recent "complex" font package > > > but I w