On 26 Oct 2017 22:37, "Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek"
wrote:
Hi,
two weeks ago I signalled a plan to update systemd to v235 in F27.
I have now given up on this.
Reasons: there were some issues in the implementation of the
DynamicUser feature. Handling this took some time and F27 entered the
final
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De: "Pierre-Yves Chibon"
>Ok, another random/crazy/likely stupid idea for the same outcome: the
>possibility to go backwards in our packaging.
>What if we inverted version and release?
> So -2.1-1 become -1-2.1?
Same problem than with epoch. Does not work with third-
On Sat, Oct 07, 2017 at 12:31:04PM -0400, Matthew Miller wrote:
> On Sat, Oct 07, 2017 at 10:33:38AM -0400, Colin Walters wrote:
> > I'm personally very in favor of this; of course my usual refrain
> > here is that we should *try* new things and have the ability
> > to back them out if they don't w
On Mon, Oct 09, 2017 at 04:38:07PM +0200, Reindl Harald wrote:
> oh yeah, your mysqld tests surely include "and now me make the 800
> connections allowed in my.cnf"? i doubt!
As an end-user testing my [organization's] applications on a new/beta
distro release? This is something I'll absolutely t
On Sat, Oct 7, 2017, at 01:26 PM, Stephen John Smoogen wrote:
> At a certain point, if you want/need to do these things, it is better
> to burn it from the ground and come up with a new packaging system
> (and relearn all the second system problems involved with that).
I actually put code behind
On Mon, Oct 09, 2017 at 01:04:55PM +0200, Reindl Harald wrote:
> maybe you did not understand that he is talking about "DefaultTasksMax=512"
> which is systemd, affects all services and was *in the meantime* raised
Surely this is one of the things a system administrator is expected to
tune based
On 9 October 2017 at 11:30, Solomon Peachy wrote:
> On Sat, Oct 07, 2017 at 10:17:31PM -0400, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote:
> > The killing of logged out user processes, without record and with
> > no option to disable it after compilation in release 230 was another
> > one.
>
> Oh, that's utter, unff
On Sat, Oct 07, 2017 at 10:17:31PM -0400, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote:
> The killing of logged out user processes, without record and with
> no option to disable it after compilation in release 230 was another
> one.
Oh, that's utter, unffettered BS. That feature was there from the
beginning. v230
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De: "Vít Ondruch"
> This does not necessarily work in case when subpackages are using
> different versions from main package. But if we always increased
> release, it would not hurt ... OTOH, it would not solve the typical
> issues with 1.0.0.rc1 updated to 1.0.0
T
Dne 7.10.2017 v 18:45 Neal Gompa napsal(a):
> On Sat, Oct 7, 2017 at 12:31 PM, Matthew Miller
> wrote:
>> On Sat, Oct 07, 2017 at 10:33:38AM -0400, Colin Walters wrote:
>>> I'm personally very in favor of this; of course my usual refrain
>>> here is that we should *try* new things and have the a
On Sat, Oct 7, 2017 at 1:26 PM, Stephen John Smoogen wrote:
> If there is one thing I have learned in 20 years of dealing with
> RPMS... DON'T PLAY AROUND WITH EPOCH. It is a hack which should only
> be used as a last resort and a lot of tools are built around that
> assumption.. even if they don
On Sun, Oct 8, 2017 at 8:19 AM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
wrote:
> On Sat, Oct 07, 2017 at 10:33:38AM -0400, Colin Walters wrote:
>> On Sat, Oct 7, 2017, at 08:14 AM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote:
>>
>> > Well, my point is that in this case there aren't any big changes, only>
>> > some rel
On Sat, Oct 07, 2017 at 10:33:38AM -0400, Colin Walters wrote:
> On Sat, Oct 7, 2017, at 08:14 AM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote:
>
> > Well, my point is that in this case there aren't any big changes, only>
> > some relatively minor feature additions. According to the policy,
> > "minor" upg
On Sat, Oct 07, 2017 at 10:17:31PM -0400, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote:
> On Fri, Oct 6, 2017 at 11:04 AM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
> wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > systemd 235 was released today. A large number of issues was closed
> > upstream, including many bug fixes, documentation updates, and
> > long
On Sat, Oct 07, 2017 at 12:17:15PM -0400, Neal Gompa wrote:
> On Sat, Oct 7, 2017 at 12:02 PM, Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
> > On Fri, Oct 06, 2017 at 03:04:12PM +, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote:
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> systemd 235 was released today. A large number of issues was closed
> >> upst
On Fri, Oct 6, 2017 at 11:04 AM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
wrote:
> Hi,
>
> systemd 235 was released today. A large number of issues was closed
> upstream, including many bug fixes, documentation updates, and
> long-standing RFEs. There are some new features, but relatively few
> entirely new fe
On 7 October 2017 at 12:31, Matthew Miller wrote:
> On Sat, Oct 07, 2017 at 10:33:38AM -0400, Colin Walters wrote:
>> I'm personally very in favor of this; of course my usual refrain
>> here is that we should *try* new things and have the ability
>> to back them out if they don't work (the latter
On Sat, Oct 7, 2017 at 1:10 PM, Pierre-Yves Chibon wrote:
> On Sat, Oct 07, 2017 at 12:45:14PM -0400, Neal Gompa wrote:
>> On Sat, Oct 7, 2017 at 12:31 PM, Matthew Miller
>> wrote:
>> > On Sat, Oct 07, 2017 at 10:33:38AM -0400, Colin Walters wrote:
>> >> I'm personally very in favor of this; of c
On Sat, Oct 07, 2017 at 12:45:14PM -0400, Neal Gompa wrote:
> On Sat, Oct 7, 2017 at 12:31 PM, Matthew Miller
> wrote:
> > On Sat, Oct 07, 2017 at 10:33:38AM -0400, Colin Walters wrote:
> >> I'm personally very in favor of this; of course my usual refrain
> >> here is that we should *try* new thin
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> On Sat, 2017-10-07 at 12:31 -0400, Matthew Miller wrote:
>> On Sat, Oct 07, 2017 at 10:33:38AM -0400, Colin Walters wrote:
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On Sat, 2017-10-07 at 12:31 -0400, Matthew Miller wrote:
> On Sat, Oct 07, 2017 at 10:33:38AM -0400, Colin Walters wrote:
> > I'm personally very in favor of this; of course my usual refrain
> > here is that we should *try* new things and have the ab
On Sat, Oct 7, 2017 at 12:31 PM, Matthew Miller
wrote:
> On Sat, Oct 07, 2017 at 10:33:38AM -0400, Colin Walters wrote:
>> I'm personally very in favor of this; of course my usual refrain
>> here is that we should *try* new things and have the ability
>> to back them out if they don't work (the la
On 10/07/2017 06:31 PM, Matthew Miller wrote:
On Sat, Oct 07, 2017 at 10:33:38AM -0400, Colin Walters wrote:
I'm personally very in favor of this; of course my usual refrain
here is that we should *try* new things and have the ability
to back them out if they don't work (the latter bit is what t
On Sat, Oct 07, 2017 at 10:33:38AM -0400, Colin Walters wrote:
> I'm personally very in favor of this; of course my usual refrain
> here is that we should *try* new things and have the ability
> to back them out if they don't work (the latter bit is what the
> current system doesn't support).
You
On Sat, Oct 7, 2017 at 12:02 PM, Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
> On Fri, Oct 06, 2017 at 03:04:12PM +, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> systemd 235 was released today. A large number of issues was closed
>> upstream, including many bug fixes, documentation updates, and
>> long-stand
On Fri, Oct 06, 2017 at 03:04:12PM +, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote:
> Hi,
>
> systemd 235 was released today. A large number of issues was closed
> upstream, including many bug fixes, documentation updates, and
> long-standing RFEs. There are some new features, but relatively few
> entire
On Sat, Oct 7, 2017, at 08:14 AM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote:
> Well, my point is that in this case there aren't any big changes, only> some
> relatively minor feature additions. According to the policy,
> "minor" upgrades are OK after beta. The only difference for critical
> path packages
On 7 October 2017 at 13:14, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
wrote:
> On Sat, Oct 07, 2017 at 09:19:17AM +0100, James Hogarth wrote:
> > Although personally I have no specific objections and indeed plan to use
> > the IP accounting stuff on a bunch of units... since we're already past
> > beta, this i
On Sat, Oct 07, 2017 at 09:19:17AM +0100, James Hogarth wrote:
> Although personally I have no specific objections and indeed plan to use
> the IP accounting stuff on a bunch of units... since we're already past
> beta, this is a critical component of the system and it's not got a Change
> on the w
On 6 Oct 2017 16:08, "Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek"
wrote:
Hi,
systemd 235 was released today. A large number of issues was closed
upstream, including many bug fixes, documentation updates, and
long-standing RFEs. There are some new features, but relatively few
entirely new features or changes in
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