Re: Filesystem Hierarchy Standard in fedora

On Thu, Aug 07, 2025 at 10:34:55AM +0100, Barry Scott wrote: > > > > On 7 Aug 2025, at 10:23, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek > > wrote: > > > > What I'm try to convey is that the way that we put together Linux systems > > is evolving, slowly but continuously, and we need documents that describe >

Re: Filesystem Hierarchy Standard in fedora

> What I'm try to convey is that the way that we put together Linux systems > is evolving, slowly but continuously, and we need documents that describe > this evolution. A "standard" that tries to turn back time and slow down > this process is not useful. I agree with this logic, yet what we have

Re: Unretiring nodejs package

Dne 05. 08. 25 v 19:01 Stephen Gallagher napsal(a): On Tue, Aug 5, 2025 at 11:10 AM Jan Stanek wrote: On Tue, Aug 5, 2025 at 4:37 PM Stephen Gallagher wrote: Also be aware that you'll need to figure out what to do about `npm` and other tools that are bundled with the interpreter. They might

Re: Filesystem Hierarchy Standard in fedora

> On 7 Aug 2025, at 10:23, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek > wrote: > > What I'm try to convey is that the way that we put together Linux systems > is evolving, slowly but continuously, and we need documents that describe > this evolution. A "standard" that tries to turn back time and slow down >

Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Filesystem Hierarchy Standard in fedora

On Wed, Aug 06, 2025 at 04:10:36PM -0400, Przemek Klosowski via devel wrote: > On 8/5/25 1:01 PM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > > FHS, even version 3, has mostly missed the evolution of Linux systems > > that has happened in the last few decades. In particular, it > > completely missed the u

Re: Filesystem Hierarchy Standard in fedora

On Wed, Aug 06, 2025 at 05:59:45AM -0700, Neal Gompa wrote: > On Wed, Aug 6, 2025 at 5:55 AM Pavol Sloboda wrote: > > > > > But it's already done? It's right there. > > > > Well as my email mentions it is done for FHS 2.3 (and not even that really > > cause the version of the Standard is not ment

Re: pdftk retired?

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Re: pdftk retired?

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Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Filesystem Hierarchy Standard in fedora

On 8/5/25 1:01 PM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: FHS, even version 3, has mostly missed the evolution of Linux systems that has happened in the last few decades. In particular, it completely missed the usr-merge, and obviously the merge of bin and sbin… Just looking at the contents table, it

Re: [rawhide] ICU upgrade to 77.1

On Wed, Aug 6, 2025 at 4:45 PM Michael Catanzaro wrote: > On Wed, Aug 6 2025 at 04:34:43 PM +02:00:00, Frantisek Zatloukal > wrote: > > Remaining builds (mozjs*) will be fixed and addressed post side > > merging, > > But gnome-shell depends on mozjs. Won't this break the entire desktop? > It's

Re: heads-up: evolution-data-server's libcamel soname version bump in rawhide

On Fri, 2025-08-01 at 16:13 +0200, Tomi Lähteenmäki wrote: > Chatty is now built too. Hi, all of the dependents are built now, thus I filled an update: https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2025-52eba2eead Thank you for helping with the rebuilds. Bye, Milan --

Re: [rawhide] ICU upgrade to 77.1

On Wed, Aug 6 2025 at 04:34:43 PM +02:00:00, Frantisek Zatloukal wrote: Remaining builds (mozjs*) will be fixed and addressed post side merging, But gnome-shell depends on mozjs. Won't this break the entire desktop? -- ___ devel mailing list -- dev

Re: [rawhide] ICU upgrade to 77.1

Update is now queued for rawhide: https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2025-bd5d800907 Remaining builds (mozjs*) will be fixed and addressed post side merging, -- Best regards / S pozdravem, František Zatloukal Senior Quality Engineer Red Hat -- _

Re: Intel's Clear Linux optimizations

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Re: Upstream tip wanted: CI service for Big Endian acrhes

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Re: pdftk retired?

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Re: upgrading RH 9 system->Fedora with iso files and apt only

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Re: Remove old GPG keys?

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Re: [Fedora-packaging] Packaging Guidelines for Applications using Git Submodules

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Re: Any package using systemd service for upgrade tasks?

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Re: F43 Change Proposal: Hardlink identical files in packages by default (self-contained)

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Re: Filesystem Hierarchy Standard in fedora

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Re: Filesystem Hierarchy Standard in fedora

On Wed, Aug 6, 2025 at 5:55 AM Pavol Sloboda wrote: > > > But it's already done? It's right there. > > Well as my email mentions it is done for FHS 2.3 (and not even that really > cause the version of the Standard is not mentioned anywhere). > And what I am trying to ask about is either switching

Re: Filesystem Hierarchy Standard in fedora

> But it's already done? It's right there. Well as my email mentions it is done for FHS 2.3 (and not even that really cause the version of the Standard is not mentioned anywhere). And what I am trying to ask about is either switching to a newer and more up to date Standard or having a concrete men

Re: Filesystem Hierarchy Standard in fedora

On Wed, Aug 6 2025 at 08:52:19 AM +02:00:00, Pavol Sloboda wrote: > Instead of adjusting to this text which is mostly of historical > interest, we should just use > https://www.freedesktop.org/software/systemd/man/latest/file-hierarchy.html. I agree that we should use something that reflects

Re: Rebuilds needed for swig?!

Am Mi., 6. Aug. 2025 um 12:32 Uhr schrieb Jitka Plesnikova : > > > > On 8/5/25 21:00, Michael J Gruber wrote: > > Hi there, > > > > this is half a question and half a remark. python-PyMuPDF started to > > FTBFS recently with a weird error message: > > > > https://koschei.fedoraproject.org/build/210

Re: Rebuilds needed for swig?!

On 8/5/25 21:00, Michael J Gruber wrote: Hi there, this is half a question and half a remark. python-PyMuPDF started to FTBFS recently with a weird error message: https://koschei.fedoraproject.org/build/21026539 python-PyMuPDF uses swig generated python bindings from the package mupdf. After

Re: Unretiring nodejs package

As a side note, the metapackage proposal [1], which is the main topic of this discussion, was already approved by FESCo; so I'm sort of surprised how much feedback it is receiving now as opposed to the original change proposal (which received almost none). I'm still open to suggestions, making this

Re: F43 Change Proposal: Hardlink identical files in packages by default (self-contained)

On 8/5/25 5:01 PM, Neal Gompa wrote: On Tue, Aug 5, 2025 at 12:46 AM Panu Matilainen wrote: On 7/29/25 2:13 AM, Neal Gompa wrote: On Mon, Jul 28, 2025 at 6:30 PM Andrew Lutomirski wrote: On Jul 24, 2025, at 7:02 PM, Aoife Moloney via devel-announce wrote: Wiki - https://fedoraproject

Re: Unretiring nodejs package

On Wed, Aug 6, 2025 at 4:19 AM Carl George wrote: > After reading those changes, something jumps out at me. The term > "rolling stream" is used, which sounds an awful lot like the RHEL > concept of a rolling appstream. That makes more sense for RHEL with > its long lifecycle, but it feels out of

Re: Unretiring nodejs package

On Tue, Aug 5, 2025 at 7:01 PM Stephen Gallagher wrote: > That would be in violation of our stable updates policy and would need > a special FESCo exemption. It would require a compelling argument > (like: "upstream changed its mind on how long it would be supported"). Ack and good to know. In th

Re: Filesystem Hierarchy Standard in fedora

> FHS, even version 3, has mostly missed the evolution of Linux systems > that has happened in the last few decades. In particular, it > completely missed the usr-merge, and obviously the merge of bin and > sbin… Just looking at the contents table, it is full of outdated > stuff, it talks about /mn

Re: Unretiring nodejs package

On Tue, Aug 5, 2025 at 7:01 PM Stephen Gallagher wrote: > > On Tue, Aug 5, 2025 at 7:11 PM Carl George wrote: > > > > On Tue, Aug 5, 2025 at 12:01 PM Stephen Gallagher > > wrote: > > > > > > On Tue, Aug 5, 2025 at 11:10 AM Jan Stanek wrote: > > > > > > > > On Tue, Aug 5, 2025 at 4:37 PM Stephe

Re: Unretiring nodejs package

On Tue, Aug 5, 2025 at 7:11 PM Carl George wrote: > > On Tue, Aug 5, 2025 at 12:01 PM Stephen Gallagher wrote: > > > > On Tue, Aug 5, 2025 at 11:10 AM Jan Stanek wrote: > > > > > > On Tue, Aug 5, 2025 at 4:37 PM Stephen Gallagher > > > wrote: > > > > Also be aware that you'll need to figure ou

Re: [rawhide] ICU upgrade to 77.1

On Sat, Aug 2 2025 at 03:11:46 PM -05:00:00, Michael Catanzaro wrote: It just so happens that I was about to start building a new WebKit update anyway (update to 2.49.4). I will use your side tag. Done. -- ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedo

Re: Unretiring nodejs package

On Tue, Aug 5, 2025 at 12:01 PM Stephen Gallagher wrote: > > On Tue, Aug 5, 2025 at 11:10 AM Jan Stanek wrote: > > > > On Tue, Aug 5, 2025 at 4:37 PM Stephen Gallagher > > wrote: > > > Also be aware that you'll need to figure out what to do about `npm` > > > and other tools that are bundled wit

Re: Please don't commit significant changes and leave them to be built by the mass rebuild

On Tue, Jul 29, 2025 at 10:04:18AM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Tue, 2025-07-29 at 09:58 -0700, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > > On Tue, Jul 29, 2025 at 09:37:44AM +, Frantisek Krenzelok wrote: > > > First of all apologies for this mess. > > > I have thought this would be actually a good way to do

Re: Schedule for Tuesday's FESCo Meeting (2025-08-05)

The meeting was called due to lack of voting members present. = # #meeting:fedoraproject.org: fesco = Meeting started by @nirik:matrix.scrye.com at 2025-08-05 17:00:02 Meeting summary --- * TOPIC: Init Process

Re: Filesystem Hierarchy Standard in fedora

On Tue, Aug 05, 2025 at 03:18:45PM +0200, Michal Schorm wrote: > The FSH standard 3.0 was introduced in 2015. > The changes in FSH 3.0 seem to me as a natural evolution, and > clarification of existing practices after the 2.3 version. > > I believe we should officially adopt the 3.0 version and up

Re: Unretiring nodejs package

On Tue, Aug 5, 2025 at 11:10 AM Jan Stanek wrote: > > On Tue, Aug 5, 2025 at 4:37 PM Stephen Gallagher wrote: > > Also be aware that you'll need to figure out what to do about `npm` > > and other tools that are bundled with the interpreter. They might need > > their own subpackages. > > Yeah, we

Re: Unretiring nodejs package

On Tue, Aug 5, 2025 at 4:37 PM Stephen Gallagher wrote: > Also be aware that you'll need to figure out what to do about `npm` > and other tools that are bundled with the interpreter. They might need > their own subpackages. Yeah, we are aware, but here it will depend on what the actual use cases

Re: Unretiring nodejs package

On Tue, Aug 5, 2025 at 9:41 AM Andrei Radchenko wrote: > > Hello, > > As a part of the big nodejs packaging overhaul [0][1][2], and exhausting all > other 'alternatives' solutions, current idea is having separate streams e.g. > nodejs22 nodejs24 etc, with their corresponding swappable -bin packa

Re: F43 Change Proposal: Hardlink identical files in packages by default (self-contained)

On Tue, Aug 5, 2025 at 12:46 AM Panu Matilainen wrote: > > On 7/29/25 2:13 AM, Neal Gompa wrote: > > On Mon, Jul 28, 2025 at 6:30 PM Andrew Lutomirski wrote: > >> > >>> On Jul 24, 2025, at 7:02 PM, Aoife Moloney via devel-announce > >>> wrote: > >>> > >>> Wiki - > >>> https://fedoraproject.or

Re: maven4 post-scriptlet build failures

Marián Konček wrote on 2025/08/05 22:36: There are currently about 7 packages that started to fail during the build, one example is this https://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=135172280. Dependency changes: https://koschei.fedoraproject.org/build/20927381 I suspect this may be bas

Re: Filesystem Hierarchy Standard in fedora

On Tue, Aug 5, 2025 at 6:19 AM Michal Schorm wrote: > > The FSH standard 3.0 was introduced in 2015. > The changes in FSH 3.0 seem to me as a natural evolution, and > clarification of existing practices after the 2.3 version. > > I believe we should officially adopt the 3.0 version and update the

Re: Filesystem Hierarchy Standard in fedora

The FSH standard 3.0 was introduced in 2015. The changes in FSH 3.0 seem to me as a natural evolution, and clarification of existing practices after the 2.3 version. I believe we should officially adopt the 3.0 version and update the Fedora Packaging Guidelines text accordingly. Drop the obsolete

Re: python-3.14 features?

On 8/5/25 12:51, Alexander Ploumistos wrote: Hello, You can try to find what changed from Koschei: https://koschei.fedoraproject.org/package/python-qcustomplot-pyqt?collection=f43 Other than that, the error seems rather simple to fix. Hi, It's not related to Python 3.14 - I'd guess there w

Re: python-3.14 features?

Hello, You can try to find what changed from Koschei: https://koschei.fedoraproject.org/package/python-qcustomplot-pyqt?collection=f43 Other than that, the error seems rather simple to fix. -- ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To

Re: Retiring nodejs18

No objections were noted anywhere, so the package is now retired in rawhide. -- Jan Stanek Software Engineer Red Hat IM: @jstanek -- ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedorapro

Re: Review request: freecad

Hi Sandro, happy to help, but though I have been a fedora contributor for twenty years I have never done a review! Do remind me if I'm slow responding, I sometimes lose track of important tasks. On Tue, 5 Aug 2025, 09:25 Sandro Mani, wrote: > Hi > > I'd like to bring freecad back into Fedora, i

Re: Proposal: Drop Intel-based Macbook dual boot release criterion

On Tue, Jul 22, 2025 at 2:31 PM Kamil Paral wrote: > Hi folks, > we have published a release criteria change proposal at Fedora Discussion: > > https://discussion.fedoraproject.org/t/proposal-drop-intel-based-macbook-dual-boot-release-criterion/160525 > > This is a notification to make sure every

Re: Any package using systemd service for upgrade tasks?

On 7/29/25 11:53 AM, Neal Gompa wrote: On Tue, Jul 29, 2025 at 3:46 AM Zdenek Dohnal wrote: Hi, per https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/FoomaticRipRejectsUnknownValues I've got feedback about turning RPM scriptlet into systemd service to have the change applied even on immutable systems, l

Re: F43 Change Proposal: Hardlink identical files in packages by default (self-contained)

On 7/29/25 2:13 AM, Neal Gompa wrote: On Mon, Jul 28, 2025 at 6:30 PM Andrew Lutomirski wrote: On Jul 24, 2025, at 7:02 PM, Aoife Moloney via devel-announce wrote: Wiki - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Hardlink_identical_files_in_packages_by_default Discussion thread - https://di

Re: miniz SONAME bump

On Tuesday, 22 July 2025 at 22:37, Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski via devel wrote: [...] > I have provenpackager privileges, so I'll do the necessary rebuilds and > adjustments in a side tag. Affected packages are listed below: > Pencil2D > ags > attract-mode > perl-Sereal-Decoder > perl-Sereal-En

Re: HEADS UP: podofo-1.0.1 landing in rawhide

Hi This is now done. I've introduced podofo0.10 as a compatibility package for calibre which does not build against podofo-1.x, and also built scribus against podofo0.10 instead of the previous podofo0.9. Remaining users of podofo0.9 are vfrnav and pdfsign (which looks is close to being retir

Re: [rawhide] ICU upgrade to 77.1

On Mon, Aug 4, 2025 at 2:59 PM Fabio Valentini wrote: > I don't think this works. The side-tag should get deleted if it's > empty after the first bodhi update is submitted. > And I'm not sure if bodhi lets you submit two updates for the same > side-tag ... > Yeah, I think(tm) I did that this way

Re: [rawhide] ICU upgrade to 77.1

On Sat, Aug 2, 2025 at 2:44 PM Frantisek Zatloukal wrote: > > I am planning to merge the side tag twice I don't think this works. The side-tag should get deleted if it's empty after the first bodhi update is submitted. And I'm not sure if bodhi lets you submit two updates for the same side-tag ..

Re: [rawhide] ICU upgrade to 77.1

On Sat, Aug 2, 2025 at 10:11 PM Michael Catanzaro wrote: > It just so happens that I was about to start building a new WebKit > update anyway (update to 2.49.4). I will use your side tag. > Yes, please do build into it at your discretion, bumped icu is already there. Thanks! -- Best regards

Re: [rawhide] ICU upgrade to 77.1

On Sat, Aug 2 2025 at 02:43:51 PM +02:00:00, Frantisek Zatloukal wrote: Please, if you're going to make changes in affected packages before the side tag gets merged, make the build in the said side tag. I expect to merge the side tag asap with most of the affected packages built and then conti

Re: Mid-August expiration of some H264 patents

On Friday, 01 August 2025 at 20:23, Mateus Rodrigues Costa wrote: > As you might know the H264 situation isn't very good under Linux due > to patents. We are fully aware of the situation and I think this is not the appropriate place to discuss patents. Rest assured that the Multimedia SIG is read

Re: F43 Change Proposal: Hare Programming Language (self-contained)

On Fri, Jul 25, 2025 at 2:02 AM Aoife Moloney via devel-announce wrote: > > Wiki - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/HareProgrammingLanguage > Discussion thread - > https://discussion.fedoraproject.org/t/f43-change-proposal-hare-programming-language-self-contained/160770 > > This is a propose

Re: long latencies on fedpkg srpm

On Fri, Aug 1, 2025 at 3:21 AM Richard W.M. Jones wrote: > On Thu, Jul 31, 2025 at 05:31:02PM -0600, Leo Sandoval wrote: > > This week I am experimenting long latencies when running > > > > `fedpkg srpm` > > > > (around 5 minutes, real time). > > > > `strace -c fedpkg srpm` is telling me that the

Re: long latencies on fedpkg srpm

On Thu, Jul 31, 2025 at 6:03 PM Carlos Rodriguez-Fernandez < carlosrodrifernan...@gmail.com> wrote: > It went generally quick for me. > > If it is networking, you may see some large amount of retrans (segment > retrans, syn retrans, etc...) with `sar -n ETCP 1` while you are running sar cmd show

Re: heads-up: evolution-data-server's libcamel soname version bump in rawhide

Jul 31, 2025 09:18:19 Milan Crha : > P.S.: if this feels like a deja vu, then you are right, (almost) the > same mail went for the 3.57.1 ;) Just like a deja vu :) > I covered most of the packages, the last missing are chatty and > pidgin-chime. Please build them into the side tag when you've ti

Re: heads-up: evolution-data-server's libcamel soname version bump in rawhide

On Fri, Aug 1, 2025 at 11:09 AM Milan Crha wrote: > > On Thu, 2025-07-31 at 08:12 +0200, Milan Crha wrote: > > I'll reply to this thread once I've a side tag ready with the > > evolution-data-server built in it. > > Hi, > the side-tag is f43-build-side-115950 , you can build into it with:

Re: long latencies on fedpkg srpm

On Thu, Jul 31, 2025 at 05:31:02PM -0600, Leo Sandoval wrote: > This week I am experimenting long latencies when running  > > `fedpkg srpm` > > (around 5 minutes, real time). > > `strace -c fedpkg srpm` is telling me that the 'wait4' syscall is the one > consuming most of the time (85%) You'll

Re: heads-up: evolution-data-server's libcamel soname version bump in rawhide

On Thu, 2025-07-31 at 08:12 +0200, Milan Crha wrote: > I'll reply to this thread once I've a side tag ready with the > evolution-data-server built in it. Hi, the side-tag is f43-build-side-115950 , you can build into it with: fedpkg build --target f43-build-side-115950 I covered most

Re: long latencies on fedpkg srpm

It went generally quick for me. If it is networking, you may see some large amount of retrans (segment retrans, syn retrans, etc...) with `sar -n ETCP 1` while you are running the command. It could also be even before the TCP transmission, during the name resolution (generally UDP), see what `

Re: HEADS UP: gdal-3.11.3 landing in rawhide

On Wed, 2025-07-30 at 20:35 +0200, Sandro Mani wrote: > Hi > > I've now submitted the f43-build-side-115762 side tag. > > The following builds failed: > > - ncl - pre-existing, ppc64le Illegal instruction > - python-rasterio - new, gdal-3.11.3 incompatibility, needs further > investigation, rep

Re: bodhi testing arguments/environment variables

On Thu, 2025-07-31 at 15:42 +0200, Pavol Sloboda wrote: > Hello, > > I am currently reworking the tests for bodhi for Mariadb from STI to TMT as > per the fedora change [0] and I came across an issue with the versioned vs > unversioned rpms of Mariadb (this issue seems to be present in the STI > t

Re: F43 Change Proposal: Hardlink identical files in packages by default (self-contained)

On neděle 27. července 2025 16:32:01, středoevropský letní čas Fabio Valentini wrote: > On Sat, Jul 26, 2025 at 10:37 AM Pavel Raiskup wrote: > > > > I'd rather we show extra care towards Fedora developers who are still > > using Fedora, if there are any. If we make Fedora development overly > >

Re: bodhi testing arguments/environment variables

On 7/31/25 4:12 PM, Cristian Le via devel wrote: On 2025/07/31 15:42, Pavol Sloboda wrote: Hello, I am currently reworking the tests for bodhi for Mariadb from STI to TMT as per the fedora change [0] and I came across an issue with the versioned vs unversioned rpms of Mariadb (this issue s

Re: bodhi testing arguments/environment variables

On 2025/07/31 15:42, Pavol Sloboda wrote: Hello, I am currently reworking the tests for bodhi for Mariadb from STI to TMT as per the fedora change [0] and I came across an issue with the versioned vs unversioned rpms of Mariadb (this issue seems to be present in the STI tests as well), where

Re: Help needed for scotch FTBFS: illegal instruction of ppc64le - gcc regression?

On Thu, 31 Jul 2025 07:47:00 -0600 Orion Poplawski wrote: > On 7/28/25 03:12, Dan Horák wrote: > > On Mon, 28 Jul 2025 10:40:03 +0200 > > Florian Weimer wrote: > > > >> * Dan Horák: > >> > >>> On Sun, 27 Jul 2025 21:34:12 +0200 > >>> Sandro Mani wrote: > >>> > Hi > > scotch is c

Re: Help needed for scotch FTBFS: illegal instruction of ppc64le - gcc regression?

On 7/28/25 03:12, Dan Horák wrote: On Mon, 28 Jul 2025 10:40:03 +0200 Florian Weimer wrote: * Dan Horák: On Sun, 27 Jul 2025 21:34:12 +0200 Sandro Mani wrote: Hi scotch is currently FTBFS on ppc64le (affects the current 7.0.7, the previous 7.0.6, as well as the new 7.0.8 release), failin

Re: Help needed for scotch FTBFS: illegal instruction of ppc64le - gcc regression?

* Dan Horák: > On Wed, 30 Jul 2025 08:40:14 +0200 > Sandro Mani wrote: > >> >> On 28.07.25 11:12, Dan Horák wrote: >> > On Mon, 28 Jul 2025 10:40:03 +0200 >> > Florian Weimer wrote: >> > >> > So there was a 64-bit instruction bundle at the patched offset, and that >> > may have been the reason

Re: CI failed to pick up the test suite

On 2025/07/31 11:04, Andrei Radchenko wrote: Hello, I just updated this test plan in new nodejs [0], filling missing pieces like gating yaml, testing fmf data. Scratch build ran but stuck on pending and not proceeding to testing. I suspect it might be because I *just* introduced them. But n

Re: Strange rpm conflicts

Dne 29. 07. 25 v 23:03 Fabio Valentini napsal(a): On Tue, Jul 29, 2025 at 10:38 PM Elliott Sales de Andrade wrote: On Tue, Jul 29, 2025 at 4:16 PM Jos de Kloe wrote: Hi, as suggested on this Directory_Replacement page I tried to solve this problem by adding a little lua scriptlet. Unfortuna

Re: Please don't commit significant changes and leave them to be built by the mass rebuild

Dne 30. 07. 25 v 13:35 Michael J Gruber napsal(a): Kevin Fenzi venit, vidit, dixit 2025-07-29 19:04:31: I think this is all too big a hammer. There's lots of cases where people make small changes and don't think it's worth doing a new build, but expect it will get picked up in the next one. S

Re: Help needed for scotch FTBFS: illegal instruction of ppc64le - gcc regression?

On Wed, 30 Jul 2025 08:40:14 +0200 Sandro Mani wrote: > > On 28.07.25 11:12, Dan Horák wrote: > > On Mon, 28 Jul 2025 10:40:03 +0200 > > Florian Weimer wrote: > > > > So there was a 64-bit instruction bundle at the patched offset, and that > > may have been the reason why ucx failed to patch pr

Re: Help needed for scotch FTBFS: illegal instruction of ppc64le - gcc regression?

On Thu, 31 Jul 2025 08:40:51 +0200 Dan Horák wrote: > On Wed, 30 Jul 2025 22:07:40 -0600 > Orion Poplawski wrote: > > > On 7/30/25 00:40, Sandro Mani wrote: > > > > > > On 28.07.25 11:12, Dan Horák wrote: > > >> On Mon, 28 Jul 2025 10:40:03 +0200 > > >> Florian Weimer wrote: > > >> > > >> So

Re: Help needed for scotch FTBFS: illegal instruction of ppc64le - gcc regression?

On Wed, 30 Jul 2025 22:07:40 -0600 Orion Poplawski wrote: > On 7/30/25 00:40, Sandro Mani wrote: > > > > On 28.07.25 11:12, Dan Horák wrote: > >> On Mon, 28 Jul 2025 10:40:03 +0200 > >> Florian Weimer wrote: > >> > >> So there was a 64-bit instruction bundle at the patched offset, and that > >>

Re: Help needed for scotch FTBFS: illegal instruction of ppc64le - gcc regression?

On 7/30/25 00:40, Sandro Mani wrote: On 28.07.25 11:12, Dan Horák wrote: On Mon, 28 Jul 2025 10:40:03 +0200 Florian Weimer wrote: So there was a 64-bit instruction bundle at the patched offset, and that may have been the reason why ucx failed to patch properly. Thanks - is this already bei

Re: Please don't commit significant changes and leave them to be built by the mass rebuild

On Wed, Jul 30, 2025 at 8:51 PM Adam Williamson wrote: > If the system doesn't handle this scenario sensibly: > > * Submit a PR to libfoo that bumps its soname > * Submit a PR to bar-app to rebuild it against the new libfoo soname > * ??? > * Profit > > then it cannot be viable for Fedora. Broadl

Re: Please don't commit significant changes and leave them to be built by the mass rebuild

On Tue, Jul 29, 2025 at 4:58 PM Kevin Fenzi wrote: > I'm all for documenting this better, but where? > > We could perhaps add something to the reminder about the mass rebuild > coming up (which is supposed to be a week before I think?). We get an email when the mass rebuild has started (and fini

Re: Please don't commit significant changes and leave them to be built by the mass rebuild

On Wed, 2025-07-30 at 13:53 -0400, Stephen Gallagher wrote: > On Wed, Jul 30, 2025 at 1:01 PM Kevin Fenzi wrote: > > > > On Wed, Jul 30, 2025 at 03:44:05PM +0200, Miro Hrončok wrote: > > > > > > Let's have draft builds like in CentOS Stream? > > > > > > A pull request is scratch built anyway. L

Re: Please don't commit significant changes and leave them to be built by the mass rebuild

On Wed, 2025-07-30 at 13:35 +0200, Michael J Gruber wrote: > Kevin Fenzi venit, vidit, dixit 2025-07-29 19:04:31: > > I think this is all too big a hammer. > > > > There's lots of cases where people make small changes and don't think > > it's worth doing a new build, but expect it will get picked

Re: Empty debugsourcefiles.list

On 25-07-30 15:16, Elliott Sales de Andrade wrote: On Wed, Jul 30, 2025 at 3:11 PM Łukasz Wojniłowicz wrote: Hi all, due to the recent mass rebuild I get FTBFS as seen at https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2384485 The reason is "Empty %files file /builddir/build/BUILD/browserpass-3.

Re: Empty debugsourcefiles.list

In addition, once Go 1.25 is released (guessing mid-August) a rebuild of Go projects will be done, if I understood the discussion on the recent Go SIG call. Brad On Wed, Jul 30, 2025 at 12:16 PM Elliott Sales de Andrade wrote: > > On Wed, Jul 30, 2025 at 3:11 PM Łukasz Wojniłowicz > wrote: > >

Re: Empty debugsourcefiles.list

On Wed, Jul 30, 2025 at 3:11 PM Łukasz Wojniłowicz wrote: > > Hi all, > > due to the recent mass rebuild I get FTBFS as seen at > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2384485 > The reason is "Empty %files file > /builddir/build/BUILD/browserpass-3.1.0-build/browserpass-native-3.1.0/debugso

Re: HEADS UP: gdal-3.11.3 landing in rawhide

Hi I've now submitted the f43-build-side-115762 side tag. The following builds failed: - ncl - pre-existing, ppc64le Illegal instruction - python-rasterio - new, gdal-3.11.3 incompatibility, needs further investigation, reported upstream at https://github.com/rasterio/rasterio/issues/3376 -

Re: Please don't commit significant changes and leave them to be built by the mass rebuild

On Wed, Jul 30, 2025 at 1:01 PM Kevin Fenzi wrote: > > On Wed, Jul 30, 2025 at 03:44:05PM +0200, Miro Hrončok wrote: > > > > Let's have draft builds like in CentOS Stream? > > > > A pull request is scratch built anyway. Let it build as draft build and when > > the PR is merged, promote the draft b

Re: Please don't commit significant changes and leave them to be built by the mass rebuild

On Wed, Jul 30, 2025 at 03:44:05PM +0200, Miro Hrončok wrote: > > Let's have draft builds like in CentOS Stream? > > A pull request is scratch built anyway. Let it build as draft build and when > the PR is merged, promote the draft build to a real one (in a side tag if > needed). Are there any d

Re: Please don't commit significant changes and leave them to be built by the mass rebuild

On 30. 07. 25 13:35, Michael J Gruber wrote: Kevin Fenzi venit, vidit, dixit 2025-07-29 19:04:31: I think this is all too big a hammer. There's lots of cases where people make small changes and don't think it's worth doing a new build, but expect it will get picked up in the next one. So, perh

Re: Orphaned packages looking for new maintainers

Note that it is going to be quite difficult to migrate gaupol away from %py3_build/%py3_install macros, https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2377265, due to upstream’s use of a particularly creative customized setup.py based on distutils. This is not a crisis for the package yet, but it

Re: Please don't commit significant changes and leave them to be built by the mass rebuild

On Wed, Jul 30, 2025 at 1:35 PM Michael J Gruber wrote: > Is there any valid reason to push a commit to rawhide dist-git without > building it? To simply save resources. I don't disagree with what you described. There might be perks in having Rawhide built automatically. But in that case I'd li

Re: Strange rpm conflicts

Hi Orion, I just built eccodes version 2.42.0-3 which should solve this issue. I did this by reverting the upstream change, and replaced the symbolic links with a copy of their target. Downside of this is that the data package will increase in size, and that I will have to maintain this patc

Re: Please don't commit significant changes and leave them to be built by the mass rebuild

Kevin Fenzi venit, vidit, dixit 2025-07-29 19:04:31: > I think this is all too big a hammer. > > There's lots of cases where people make small changes and don't think > it's worth doing a new build, but expect it will get picked up in the > next one. > > So, perhaps a more targeted approach might

Re: Unannounced fuse3 soname bump

Fabio Valentini venit, vidit, dixit 2025-07-29 20:57:05: > On Mon, Jul 28, 2025 at 11:22 AM Michael J Gruber > wrote: > > > > Due to alphabetical ordering, freerdp was rebuilt against the old fuse3 > > before fuse3 was rebuilt and introduced the soname change which broke > > fuse3. That broken st

Re: Orphaned packages looking for new maintainers

Hello, I took Gaupol, as it's required by translate-toolkit. just noting it here so others are aware. Sincerely, Sudip Shil On Mon, Apr 21, 2025 at 9:10 AM maxwell--- via devel-announce < devel-annou...@lists.fedoraproject.org> wrote: > Report started at 2025-04-20 22:00:03 UTC > > The following

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