On Wed, Aug 06, 2025 at 05:59:45AM -0700, Neal Gompa wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 6, 2025 at 5:55 AM Pavol Sloboda <pslob...@redhat.com> wrote:
> >
> > > But it's already done? It's right there.
> >
> > Well as my email mentions it is done for FHS 2.3 (and not even that really 
> > cause the version of the Standard is not mentioned anywhere).
> > And what I am trying to ask about is either switching to a newer and more 
> > up to date Standard or having a concrete mention of
> > the standard we are using at the moment and addressing the new things that 
> > have been changed lately (e.g.: the abovementioned
> > `/usr/bin` `/usr/sbin` merge).
> >
> 
> There's already a ticket for FHS 4.0 to include bin-sbin merge:
> https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/FHS/fhs-spec/-/issues/4
>
> Same for /usr Merge: https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/FHS/fhs-spec/-/issues/3

"already". I think those two tickets illustrate the issue very well:
they are ~9 months old, nobody is working it implement them,
and they went dead after some initial discussion. And the "discussion"
that was there was pretty sad. The actual discussion already happened
on fedora-devel 15 years ago (for usr-merge) and last year (for
sbin-merge) and in the systemd upstream. It's not very interesting to
see the old arguments being rehashed.

And considering that systemd has dropped support for split-usr
hierarchies, the discussion is really over.

What I'm try to convey is that the way that we put together Linux systems
is evolving, slowly but continuously, and we need documents that describe
this evolution. A "standard" that tries to turn back time and slow down
this process is not useful.

Zbyszek

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