On Monday, 16 December 2024 at 22:03, Adam Williamson
wrote:
> > We neglected to make available the facts behind our decision quickly
> Why should there be a right to anonymity in this process?
I'm really not sure what FESCo is thinking; what a way to destroy trust from a
community. Fedora Engi
On 12/18/24 6:27 PM, Matthew Miller wrote:
The Fedora Council met today. After our regular meeting (where we're taking
the next formal step in the gitforge process!) [1], we had a private video
call for about half an hour on this topic. As transparency is part of what's
at issue, we intentionally
The Fedora Council met today. After our regular meeting (where we're taking
the next formal step in the gitforge process!) [1], we had a private video
call for about half an hour on this topic. As transparency is part of what's
at issue, we intentionally did not make any decisions in that call; we
On Tue, Dec 17, 2024 at 11:00:49PM -0800, Adam Williamson wrote:
> make one up on the fly, which seems not to have gone optimally. But I
> don't think the reasonable conclusion to draw from this is "everything
> must either fall under the CoC or nothing".
Strong agree. Code of Conduct Committee is
On Wed, 2024-12-18 at 02:19 +, Gary Buhrmaster wrote:
> (*) The original announcement discussed behavior.
> That is basically conduct. And either there is
> a code for such behaviour (conduct) in which
> case the behaviour (conduct) can be measured
> against, or there is no such code, which me
On Tue, Dec 17, 2024 at 9:08 PM Fabio Valentini wrote:
> Let me be clear - FESCo is *not* usurping CoC responsibilities.
From the currently available public information,
I disagree(*), but I trust the Council will
eventually review and clarify (as they seem to
have agreed to do).
Gary
(*) T
On Mon, Dec 16, 2024 at 10:03 PM Adam Williamson
wrote:
>
> On Mon, 2024-12-16 at 15:42 -0500, David Cantrell wrote:
> > We neglected to make available the facts behind our decision quickly (In
> > some cases we were dealing with situations where reporters wanted to remain
> > anonymous
>
> This
On Tue, Dec 17, 2024 at 9:17 PM Leigh Scott wrote:
>
> I have already withdrawn my FESCo election votes as I don't think any of the
> candidates are fit to rule.
> --
Until we have an independent review of
what individuals knew, and when did they
know it, and what actions they took (or
did not t
On Tue, 2024-12-17 at 21:09 +, Leigh Scott wrote:
> I have already withdrawn my FESCo election votes as I don't think any
> of the candidates are fit to rule.
the Committee voted – seven in favor, two against – to remove Peter
from the provenpackager
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On Tue, Dec 17, 2024 at 9:20 PM Gary Buhrmaster
wrote:
>
> On Tue, Dec 17, 2024 at 7:28 PM Matthew Miller
> wrote:
>
> > I'm not sure today of everything we need to do to make things right, but the
> > Council will work this week on immediate actions before the holiday, and
> > then longer-term
On Tue, Dec 17, 2024 at 7:28 PM Matthew Miller wrote:
> I'm not sure today of everything we need to do to make things right, but the
> Council will work this week on immediate actions before the holiday, and
> then longer-term in January.
Thank you for the update. I was especially
concerned abo
Hey everyone. I have a lot of thoughts on this, and they are hard to put in
order. The first one probably is "Oh god, please don't set everything on fire
right before the holidays". Close candidates, though, are:
* I know everyone involved here has Fedora's best interests and heart, and
works ha
On Tue, Dec 17, 2024 at 01:49:27AM +0100, Fabio Valentini wrote:
> On Mon, Dec 16, 2024 at 11:03 PM Adam Williamson
> wrote:
> >
> > On Mon, 2024-12-16 at 15:42 -0500, David Cantrell wrote:
> > > We neglected to make available the facts behind our decision quickly (In
> > > some cases we were dea
Hi FESCo,
On behalf of FESCo, please accept our apology for how we communicated the
> news regarding the revocation of provenpackager privileges for Peter
> Robinson. This one was really difficult for us to figure out how best to
> communicate and we have made mistakes.
>
> We neglected to make a
On 12/17/24 1:49 AM, Fabio Valentini wrote:
To be clear, none of the involved parties requested anonymity. The
FESCo ticket was filed privately to avoid pre-judgement on the mailing
list and so that FESCo could take their time discussing the issue. The
ticket just cannot be made public post-fact
On Mon, 16 Dec 2024 at 19:50, Fabio Valentini wrote:
> On Mon, Dec 16, 2024 at 11:03 PM Adam Williamson
> wrote:
> >
> > On Mon, 2024-12-16 at 15:42 -0500, David Cantrell wrote:
> > > We neglected to make available the facts behind our decision quickly
> (In some cases we were dealing with situa
On Mon, Dec 16, 2024 at 11:03 PM Adam Williamson
wrote:
>
> On Mon, 2024-12-16 at 15:42 -0500, David Cantrell wrote:
> > We neglected to make available the facts behind our decision quickly (In
> > some cases we were dealing with situations where reporters wanted to remain
> > anonymous
>
> This
On Mon, 2024-12-16 at 19:06 -0500, Yaakov Selkowitz wrote:
> On 12/16/24 17:03, Adam Williamson wrote:
> > On Mon, 2024-12-16 at 15:42 -0500, David Cantrell wrote:
> > > We neglected to make available the facts behind our decision quickly (In
> > > some cases we were dealing with situations where
On 12/16/24 17:03, Adam Williamson wrote:
On Mon, 2024-12-16 at 15:42 -0500, David Cantrell wrote:
We neglected to make available the facts behind our decision quickly (In some
cases we were dealing with situations where reporters wanted to remain anonymous
This strikes me as problematic.
Wh
On Mon, 2024-12-16 at 15:42 -0500, David Cantrell wrote:
> We neglected to make available the facts behind our decision quickly (In some
> cases we were dealing with situations where reporters wanted to remain
> anonymous
This strikes me as problematic.
Why should there be a right to anonymity
Thank you.
Leslie Satenstein
On Monday, December 16, 2024 at 05:03:22 p.m. EST, Adam Williamson
wrote:
On Mon, 2024-12-16 at 15:42 -0500, David Cantrell wrote:
> We neglected to make available the facts behind our decision quickly (In some
> cases we were dealing with situatio
On 12/16/24 9:42 PM, David Cantrell wrote:
> On behalf of FESCo, please accept our apology for how we communicated
> the news regarding the revocation of provenpackager privileges for
> Peter Robinson. This one was really difficult for us to figure out
> how best to communicate and we have ma
On behalf of FESCo, please accept our apology for how we communicated the news
regarding the revocation of provenpackager privileges for Peter Robinson. This
one was really difficult for us to figure out how best to communicate and we
have made mistakes.
We neglected to make available the fact
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