On Tue, Dec 17, 2024 at 9:08 PM Fabio Valentini <decatho...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Let me be clear - FESCo is *not* usurping CoC responsibilities.

From the currently available public information,
I disagree(*), but I trust the Council will
eventually review and clarify (as they seem to
have agreed to do).

Gary




(*) The original announcement discussed behavior.
That is basically conduct.  And either there is
a code for such behaviour (conduct) in which
case the behaviour (conduct) can be measured
against, or there is no such code, which means
it cannot be measured against or used to
evaluate the conduct.  If there was a conduct
violation, I believe that is for the CoCC to work.  If
there was not a behavioural code in existence,
there can be no violation, and then FESCo
members themselves might (inadvertently?) be
in violation of the Fedora CoCC for arbitrarily
imposing conditions not in their remit.  Either
way, it seems like the CoCC should have been
(be) involved in such a process so that the
appropriate processes could be performed.

Since there is a CoCC member in FESCo, I
do wonder if they considered whether the
CoCC should have been involved, and/or
touched base with members of the CoCC to
ask for their opinions as far as whether
involvement was warranted.  Again, I
presume the review by the Council will
help answer that question.

No one ever wants to be on the CoCC or
the ethics committee or the finance committee
for a publicly traded organization, but those
committees and roles and responsibilities
can be critically important in a well run
organization.
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