Am 21.01.2016 um 14:34 schrieb Yanko Kaneti:
On Thu, 2016-01-21 at 09:38 +, Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
On Thu, Jan 21, 2016 at 11:10:22AM +0200, Yanko Kaneti wrote:
On Wed, 2016-01-20 at 15:50 +, Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
If you're on freshly installed Fedora 23 (x86-64), then
dnf
Am 18.01.2016 um 13:39 schrieb Heiko Adams:
Am Montag, den 18.01.2016, 12:27 + schrieb Jonathan Wakely:
On 18/01/16 07:05 -0500, Honza Šilhan wrote:
yes, autoremoval issue could be either caused by bad packaging [1]
or when you are
installing packages via yum or packagekit [2]. We are wor
Am 18.01.2016 um 13:16 schrieb Jonathan Wakely:
And the fact that /var/log/dnf.rpm.log doesn't show updates done by PK
is just annoying. Isn't there a single log file I can look at to see
what was updated, and when?
currently no because dnf, PK and yum-deprecated using different logging
inst
Am 19.01.2016 um 12:36 schrieb Tom Hughes:
On 19/01/16 11:32, Jakub Filak wrote:
I cannot tell how it works in coredumpctl but ABRT C/C++ plugin can
be configured to ignore any path (this feature will be available in ABRT
2.8 [1]).
Right now, you can configure ABRT to drop core files of cert
Am 18.01.2016 um 16:27 schrieb Matthew Miller:
On Sat, Jan 16, 2016 at 01:34:12PM +, Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
A related topic is headers, which could be used for filtering.
Various systems add headers -- see examples below -- but again there's
not much consistency and the headers aren't pa
Am 18.01.2016 um 13:39 schrieb Heiko Adams:
Am Montag, den 18.01.2016, 12:27 + schrieb Jonathan Wakely:
On 18/01/16 07:05 -0500, Honza Šilhan wrote:
yes, autoremoval issue could be either caused by bad packaging [1]
or when you are
installing packages via yum or packagekit [2]. We are wor
Am 18.01.2016 um 13:16 schrieb Jonathan Wakely:
And the fact that /var/log/dnf.rpm.log doesn't show updates done by PK
is just annoying. Isn't there a single log file I can look at to see
what was updated, and when?
currently no because dnf, PK and yum-deprecated using different logging
inst
Am 18.01.2016 um 04:16 schrieb Kevin Fenzi:
On Mon, 18 Jan 2016 00:53:00 +0100
Reindl Harald wrote:
...snip...
why?
because you don't type "dnf install kernel" instead "dnf upgrade" and
"kernel-headers" *is never installed* in multiple versions
Sure
Am 18.01.2016 um 02:32 schrieb Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek:
On Mon, Jan 18, 2016 at 12:55:54AM +0100, Heiko Adams wrote:
But it seems to be broken since Feb 2015, which is IMHO unacceptable
since a default package manager and all of its features have to work
absolutely reliable.
When was the
Am 18.01.2016 um 00:48 schrieb Kevin Fenzi:
On Mon, 18 Jan 2016 00:01:13 +0100
Reindl Harald wrote:
...snip...
"dnf update *.rpm" is the way which has to work
Why? It works fine as a install. It's installing a new kernel, since
kernels can have many versions installed at
Am 18.01.2016 um 00:08 schrieb Neal Gompa:
On Sun, Jan 17, 2016 at 6:01 PM, Reindl Harald wrote:
Am 17.01.2016 um 23:54 schrieb Kevin Fenzi:
I'd encourage you to re-read our code of conduct
( https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct ) and try and be more
respectful in bugs and here. W
Am 17.01.2016 um 23:54 schrieb Kevin Fenzi:
On Sun, 17 Jan 2016 23:27:02 +0100
Reindl Harald wrote:
for localupdate i switched back to yum-deprecated long ago, but for
ordinary kernel updates pretend unsolved deps is simply unacceptable
*no* i am not the only one - see karma comments for
for localupdate i switched back to yum-deprecated long ago, but for
ordinary kernel updates pretend unsolved deps is simply unacceptable
*no* i am not the only one - see karma comments for 4.3.3-300.fc23
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1263888#c14
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bu
Am 16.01.2016 um 22:19 schrieb Neal Gompa:
On Sat, Jan 16, 2016 at 4:18 PM, Reindl Harald wrote:
Am 16.01.2016 um 22:07 schrieb Neal Gompa:
On Sat, Jan 16, 2016 at 3:00 PM, Chris Murphy
wrote:
On Sat, Jan 16, 2016 at 12:39 PM, Luya Tshimbalanga
wrote:
Does Oracle include ZFS in
Am 16.01.2016 um 22:07 schrieb Neal Gompa:
On Sat, Jan 16, 2016 at 3:00 PM, Chris Murphy wrote:
On Sat, Jan 16, 2016 at 12:39 PM, Luya Tshimbalanga
wrote:
Does Oracle include ZFS in their ISO by default?
No, and as far as I know they don't contribute to ZFS on Linux. There
is a distinctio
Am 16.01.2016 um 20:51 schrieb Gerald B. Cox:
On Sat, Jan 16, 2016 at 11:35 AM, Kevin Fenzi mailto:ke...@scrye.com>> wrote:
I can't image anyone misinterpreting my statement that way, but yes, I
was not trying to suggest anything anyone else does is legal or not,
simply that any in
Am 16.01.2016 um 19:43 schrieb Gerald B. Cox:
On Sat, Jan 16, 2016 at 9:55 AM, Kevin Fenzi mailto:ke...@scrye.com>> wrote:
The benchmark if it's legal to include something in Fedora is
what Fedora Legal says.
I basically would agree with everything you stated, except I would
change
Am 16.01.2016 um 14:34 schrieb Richard W.M. Jones:
Here are a small collection of subject lines of emails sent
automatically to me by various Fedora systems in the past few days:
Subject: upgradepath PASSED for FEDORA-2015-850e89be8b
Subject: [Fedora Update] [comment] auto-buildrequires-1.2-1.
Am 15.01.2016 um 03:38 schrieb Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek:
On Thu, Jan 14, 2016 at 10:17:54PM +0100, Reindl Harald wrote:
WHO defines that "dependency" and WHY?
when i say "mask, i want it refreshed when it is used" than *i mean*
that and there is no business to spit my
Am 15.01.2016 um 01:07 schrieb Neal Gompa:
On Thu, Jan 14, 2016 at 6:54 PM, Stephen John Smoogen wrote:
On 14 January 2016 at 12:20, Neal Gompa wrote:
On Thu, Jan 14, 2016 at 2:14 PM, Reindl Harald wrote:
who is "Lawrence Livermore"?
Lawrence Livermore National Labora
Am 15.01.2016 um 01:07 schrieb Andrew Lutomirski:
On Thu, Jan 14, 2016 at 4:01 PM, Reindl Harald wrote:
Am 15.01.2016 um 00:36 schrieb Andrew Lutomirski:
If, for example, it simply installed into
/lib/modules/VERSION/akmod/path/to/driver.ko, then rpm could be taught
to delete /lib/modules
Am 15.01.2016 um 00:36 schrieb Andrew Lutomirski:
If, for example, it simply installed into
/lib/modules/VERSION/akmod/path/to/driver.ko, then rpm could be taught
to delete /lib/modules/VERSION when the corresponding kernel package
goes away (either using a scriptlet in the kernel package or an
WHO defines that "dependency" and WHY?
when i say "mask, i want it refreshed when it is used" than *i mean*
that and there is no business to spit my logs on all machines al day
long full with "you have masked it"
Jan 14 21:30:01 localhost systemd[1]: Cannot add dependency job for unit
dnf-ma
Am 14.01.2016 um 20:35 schrieb Michael Catanzaro:
On Thu, 2016-01-14 at 20:24 +0100, Reindl Harald wrote:
likely i did much more research than you can even imagine long
before
that thread started
I find this challenging to believe.
i don't care what you believe
CDDL is incompatible
Am 14.01.2016 um 20:34 schrieb Gerald B. Cox:
On Thu, Jan 14, 2016 at 11:14 AM, Reindl Harald mailto:h.rei...@thelounge.net>> wrote:
ZFS cannot be included in the GPL-licensed Linux kernel, because it
is licensed under the GPL-incompatible CDDL
Harald, you missed the point
Am 14.01.2016 um 19:45 schrieb Bill Nottingham:
Bill, your maildomain is burned and the only reason that your mails
appear here is there the mailing list is whitelisted based on SPF
1.5
URIBL_SBL_A Contains URL's A record listed in the
SBL blocklist [URIs: splat.cc]
1.5
URIBL_SBL Contains
Am 14.01.2016 um 20:20 schrieb Neal Gompa:
On Thu, Jan 14, 2016 at 2:14 PM, Reindl Harald wrote:
Am 14.01.2016 um 19:57 schrieb Gerald B. Cox:
On Thu, Jan 14, 2016 at 10:45 AM, Bill Nottingham mailto:nott...@splat.cc>> wrote:
As a rule, I try not to take legal lic
Am 14.01.2016 um 20:15 schrieb Gerald B. Cox:
On Thu, Jan 14, 2016 at 10:57 AM, Gerald B. Cox mailto:gb...@bzb.us>> wrote:
On Thu, Jan 14, 2016 at 10:45 AM, Bill Nottingham mailto:nott...@splat.cc>> wrote:
As a rule, I try not to take legal licensing interpretations
from
Am 14.01.2016 um 20:09 schrieb Neal Gompa:
On Thu, Jan 14, 2016 at 2:00 PM, Josh Boyer wrote:
On Thu, Jan 14, 2016 at 1:54 PM, Neal Gompa wrote:
On Thu, Jan 14, 2016 at 1:49 PM, Samuel Sieb wrote:
On 01/14/2016 07:56 AM, Neal Gompa wrote:
Aside from the DNF issue, is there anything else
Am 14.01.2016 um 19:57 schrieb Gerald B. Cox:
On Thu, Jan 14, 2016 at 10:45 AM, Bill Nottingham mailto:nott...@splat.cc>> wrote:
As a rule, I try not to take legal licensing interpretations from a CTO
who's trying to sell me the thing they're talking about the
licensing of.
We
Am 14.01.2016 um 19:54 schrieb Neal Gompa:
On Thu, Jan 14, 2016 at 1:49 PM, Samuel Sieb wrote:
On 01/14/2016 07:56 AM, Neal Gompa wrote:
Aside from the DNF issue, is there anything else I'm missing in
relation to kmods in Fedora?
If you have secure boot, you have to go through the process
Am 14.01.2016 um 18:05 schrieb Neal Gompa:
On Thu, Jan 14, 2016 at 11:01 AM, Reindl Harald wrote:
Am 14.01.2016 um 16:56 schrieb Neal Gompa:
We have two tools that can help us in this regard: akmod and Koschei,
both came after our policy change to disallow kernel modules.
akmod is a
Am 14.01.2016 um 16:56 schrieb Neal Gompa:
I've recently been wondering why we haven't allowed kernel module
packages in Fedora since Fedora 8. I've tried searching through our
wiki and the mailing list, but I haven't come up with any concrete
reasons for why we disallow them.
If it is perhaps
Am 14.01.2016 um 15:42 schrieb Orion Poplawski:
I want BLAS/LAPACK implementations to do something like:
%if
Provides: libblas.so.3()(64bit)
%else
Provides: libblas.so.3
%endif
not sure why you think you need to specify that explicitly while
rpmbuild does that on it's own, but anyways, you
Am 13.01.2016 um 14:30 schrieb Richard Hughes:
On 13 January 2016 at 13:13, Reindl Harald wrote:
so there is no justification to declare one need to install from scratch
just because rpm which works for many years fine changes it's storage format
I don't think anyone said there
Am 13.01.2016 um 14:01 schrieb Florian Festi:
On 01/11/2016 09:06 PM, Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 03:46:27PM +0100, Jan Kurik wrote:
= Proposed System Wide Change: Change Proposal Name NewRpmDBFormat =
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/NewRpmDBFormat
Details of th
Am 13.01.2016 um 01:25 schrieb Nico Kadel-Garcia:
On Fri, Jan 8, 2016 at 10:37 AM, Sérgio Basto wrote:
On Sex, 2016-01-08 at 08:54 -0500, Jaroslav Mracek wrote:
Hi everybody,
I would like to set following packages as Orphan due to that upstream
is dead or maintainers do not respond:
repov
Am 12.01.2016 um 19:50 schrieb Lennart Poettering:
On Tue, 12.01.16 19:48, Reindl Harald (h.rei...@thelounge.net) wrote:
Am 12.01.2016 um 19:44 schrieb Lennart Poettering:
On Tue, 12.01.16 19:37, Reindl Harald (h.rei...@thelounge.net) wrote:
That said, of course, this is not obvious at
Am 12.01.2016 um 19:44 schrieb Lennart Poettering:
On Tue, 12.01.16 19:37, Reindl Harald (h.rei...@thelounge.net) wrote:
That said, of course, this is not obvious at first, hence since quite
some time "systemctl stop" will actually explain this to you: if you
stop a daemon, but
Am 12.01.2016 um 19:30 schrieb Lennart Poettering:
On Tue, 12.01.16 18:54, Reindl Harald (h.rei...@thelounge.net) wrote:
Also, what happens if the daemon is configured to listen on some
different port? Or on multiple ports? Are you parsing the daemon's
config file too to figure out wh
Am 12.01.2016 um 17:41 schrieb Lennart Poettering:
On Tue, 12.01.16 17:16, Muayyad AlSadi (als...@gmail.com) wrote:
well. But if you can double fork() in Java you should be fine and can
it seems that zookeeper is doing the fork in the bash script using nohub
not in java
when it finished s
Am 12.01.2016 um 16:09 schrieb Lennart Poettering:
On Tue, 12.01.16 15:57, Reindl Harald (h.rei...@thelounge.net) wrote:
Am 12.01.2016 um 15:45 schrieb Lennart Poettering:
On Tue, 12.01.16 10:22, Muayyad AlSadi (als...@gmail.com) wrote:
@Lennart Poettering is there a way to use
Am 12.01.2016 um 15:45 schrieb Lennart Poettering:
On Tue, 12.01.16 10:22, Muayyad AlSadi (als...@gmail.com) wrote:
@Lennart Poettering is there a way to use something like "ExecStartPost="
do the the notify with type=simple?
When would you even call that? Somehow your Java app needs to re
Am 12.01.2016 um 09:22 schrieb Muayyad AlSadi:
nohup "$JAVA" "-Dzookeeper.log.dir=${ZOO_LOG_DIR}"
"-Dzookeeper.root.logger=${ZOO_LOG4J_PROP}" \
-cp "$CLASSPATH" $JVMFLAGS $ZOOMAIN "$ZOOCFG" > "$_ZOO_DAEMON_OUT"
2>&1 < /dev/null &
if [ $? -eq 0 ]
...
/bin/echo -n $! > "$Z
Am 11.01.2016 um 17:33 schrieb Neal Gompa:
On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 11:31 AM, Reindl Harald wrote:
Am 11.01.2016 um 17:26 schrieb Kalev Lember:
On 01/11/2016 03:46 PM, Jan Kurik wrote:
= Proposed System Wide Change: Change Proposal Name NewRpmDBFormat =
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki
Am 11.01.2016 um 17:30 schrieb Muayyad AlSadi:
quoted from systemd.serivce manual page
>> it is recommended to also use the PIDFile= option, so that systemd
can identify the main process of the daemon.
my point is that having a child double forked does not mean Zookeeper
TCP port is ready wh
Am 11.01.2016 um 17:26 schrieb Kalev Lember:
On 01/11/2016 03:46 PM, Jan Kurik wrote:
= Proposed System Wide Change: Change Proposal Name NewRpmDBFormat =
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/NewRpmDBFormat
Change owner(s):
* Florian Festi < ffesti AT redhat DOT com >
Change format of the
Am 11.01.2016 um 15:37 schrieb Michal Schmidt:
On 01/11/2016 02:58 PM, Reindl Harald wrote:
Am 11.01.2016 um 14:32 schrieb Muayyad AlSadi:
"Type=forking" implies that depending services are started
*after* the forking and the service is *really* read (it needs
depending on the si
Am 11.01.2016 um 14:32 schrieb Muayyad AlSadi:
"Type=forking" implies that depending services are started *after* the forking
and the service is *really* read (it needs depending on the signatures a longer time for
initalization)
but I guess it needs a PID file path to work properly which i
Am 11.01.2016 um 14:06 schrieb Muayyad AlSadi:
hi,
in fedora's zookeeper service < /usr/lib/systemd/system/zookeeper.service
we have the following line
ExecStart=/usr/bin/zkServer.sh start zoo.cfg
why not
ExecStart=/usr/bin/zkServer.sh start-foreground zoo.cfg
of type simple
specially tha
Am 09.01.2016 um 19:46 schrieb Sudhir Khanger:
On Saturday 09 Jan 2016 12:36:08 PM Michael Catanzaro wrote:
I, Michael Catanzaro, have never in my entire life seen any email
client display mail headers. It's beyond unreasonable to suggest users
look there for anything, much less for a way to u
Am 09.01.2016 um 19:36 schrieb Michael Catanzaro:
On Fri, 2016-01-08 at 08:53 -0500, Mark Bidewell wrote:
Unfortunately GMail's web interface does not seem to recognize those
headers :(. So a fair number of uses will have issues.
I, Michael Catanzaro, have never in my entire life seen any e
Am 08.01.2016 um 22:39 schrieb Paul W. Frields:
On Fri, Jan 08, 2016 at 03:00:13PM +0100, Reindl Harald wrote:
Am 08.01.2016 um 14:53 schrieb Mark Bidewell:
Unfortunately GMail's web interface does not seem to recognize those
headers :(. So a fair number of uses will have issues.
wh
Am 08.01.2016 um 14:53 schrieb Mark Bidewell:
Unfortunately GMail's web interface does not seem to recognize those
headers :(. So a fair number of uses will have issues.
what is the purpose of breaking DMARC by add a list-footer pointing to a
site with no unsubscribe-information
why can't
Am 08.01.2016 um 05:34 schrieb Michael Catanzaro:
On Thu, 2016-01-07 at 21:27 -0700, Byron Steele wrote:
--
devel mailing list
devel@lists.fedoraproject.org
http://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/devel@lists.fedoraproject.
org
I decided I would instruct Byron in how to unsubscribe from o
Am 05.01.2016 um 11:17 schrieb Jan Synacek:
Michael Schwendt writes:
2) A dependency on emacs-filesystem is primarily for packages, which store
files in those directories, but which do _not_ need Emacs to be installed.
Splitting off emacs- subpackages is not always the most wise/convenient
ch
Am 28.12.2015 um 22:57 schrieb Bojan Smojver:
Release notes for FF 43.0.2 say that a security issue was fixed (MD5
signatures accepted within TLS 1.2 ServerKeyExchange in server
signature). Does this not affect Fedora builds?
what do you try to tell us with that question?
[harry@srv-rhsoft:~
Am 26.12.2015 um 22:45 schrieb Jason L Tibbitts III:
"MS" == Michael Schwendt writes:
MS> %_bindir is not /bin
In Fedora there's not exactly much of a difference because of the
symlink. But why conditionalize it on "%ifos linux" in any case?
there *is* a difference and hence of it i have
Am 24.12.2015 um 00:41 schrieb mastaiza:
This is a dead end that no one knows what to do
what about senseful quoting so that one could know what you are talking
about? a subject "Re: lxqt" implies you are responding to something
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dev
Am 18.12.2015 um 20:30 schrieb Andrew Lutomirski:
On Fri, Dec 18, 2015 at 5:05 AM, Reindl Harald wrote:
besides that the wiki is completly outdated "grub2-setpassword" only works on
english machines https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1292830
if /etc/grub.d/01_users woul
Am 18.12.2015 um 16:36 schrieb g...@cfware.com:
I have no experience with containers so forgive me if I'm missing something.
Why couldn't you just have a 'microinit.rpm' in a separate dnf repo, put
'Obsoletes: systemd' into that package? This way people who are building
hundreds of contain
Am 18.12.2015 um 15:44 schrieb Neil Horman:
On Fri, Dec 18, 2015 at 01:27:33AM +, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote:
For some packages "reduced capacity" because of lack of systemd.rpm
means "doesn't even get started as expected" or "crashes on
start with permission errors" or "cannot writ
Am 18.12.2015 um 15:39 schrieb Neil Horman:
On Thu, Dec 17, 2015 at 10:18:10PM +0100, Reindl Harald wrote:
What I hear you saying is that on a system that has nothing better to do, the
primary monitoring process wakes up periodically to check on various system
aspects (cron jobs, journal
EC240AAEEA85E779E1C88DE0ECA899747479F130.C7CEB0D35AF519B3C616871AF2BE9C02B151EBFA57162192DF45DA39FF80F871E1D1D87FCFD7C33016412BA835AEA8FECCFA44431C8EA0B43150F62FE5BBB0EE
Am 18.12.2015 um 13:16 schrieb Reindl Harald:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/GRUB_2#Setting_a_password_for_interactive_edit_mode
_
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/GRUB_2#Setting_a_password_for_interactive_edit_mode
_
If you wish to password-protect GRUB2's interactive edit mode but you do
not want to require users to enter a password to do a plain, simple,
ordinary boot, create /etc/grub.d/01_use
Am 17.12.2015 um 22:11 schrieb Neil Horman:
On Thu, Dec 17, 2015 at 10:04:48PM +0100, Reindl Harald wrote:
Am 17.12.2015 um 22:00 schrieb Neil Horman:
On Thu, Dec 17, 2015 at 03:39:17PM -0500, Colin Walters wrote:
What you're arguing is that *build* convenience for our current archite
Am 17.12.2015 um 22:00 schrieb Neil Horman:
On Thu, Dec 17, 2015 at 03:39:17PM -0500, Colin Walters wrote:
What you're arguing is that *build* convenience for our current architecture
outweighs the *runtime* cost. That doesn't make sense long term - they're
different problems.
What runtime c
Am 17.12.2015 um 21:47 schrieb Craig Garner:
I usually don't say anything and just read...it's not really my place.
I just like to keep up with things going on. But, by the time you
finish worrying about all the overhead and things get finalized, there's
going to be so damn much RAM and proces
Am 17.12.2015 um 19:43 schrieb Neil Horman:
On Thu, Dec 17, 2015 at 05:18:21PM +0100, Reindl Harald wrote:
OK, you want numbers
full featured VM running authoritative DNS for hundrets
of zones while bind and rsyslog would be enough
__
whole operating system: 795
Am 17.12.2015 um 17:03 schrieb Reindl Harald:
Am 17.12.2015 um 16:57 schrieb Lennart Poettering:
On Thu, 17.12.15 10:50, Matthew Miller (mat...@fedoraproject.org) wrote:
On Thu, Dec 17, 2015 at 04:40:16PM +0100, Lennart Poettering wrote:
Nope, that's not the point to make. We ship
Am 17.12.2015 um 16:57 schrieb Lennart Poettering:
On Thu, 17.12.15 10:50, Matthew Miller (mat...@fedoraproject.org) wrote:
On Thu, Dec 17, 2015 at 04:40:16PM +0100, Lennart Poettering wrote:
Nope, that's not the point to make. We ship tons of stuff you don't
always need, but why is this stu
Am 17.12.2015 um 16:54 schrieb Lennart Poettering:
On Thu, 17.12.15 10:44, Colin Walters (walt...@verbum.org) wrote:
What is cleaning up /tmp
for those things?
You bind mount the container's /tmp to a host /tmp/container-$uuid
for example.
Well, and what sets up all the rest listed in tmpfi
Am 14.12.2015 um 17:01 schrieb Christopher:
On Sun, Dec 13, 2015 at 3:39 PM Reindl Harald
what you propose can't work for that because you only compare the
*current users* version with the *current package* version
that is a naive approach
i modified my "httpd.conf" base
Am 13.12.2015 um 21:50 schrieb Andrew Lutomirski:
On Dec 13, 2015 12:38 PM, "Reindl Harald" mailto:h.rei...@thelounge.net>> wrote:
>
> Am 13.12.2015 um 21:22 schrieb Andrew Lutomirski:
>>
>> For the few cases that can't or won't comply, then hav
Am 13.12.2015 um 21:22 schrieb Andrew Lutomirski:
For the few cases that can't or won't comply, then having rpm
(optionally?) make the originals available would be fantastic for
system management
how many copies would you like to store in the rpm database and how to
access them in a useful m
Am 13.12.2015 um 05:58 schrieb Christopher:
rpm could track more than hashes of config files, and instead track the
full file. This could be optional, as it uses more disk space, but disk
space is cheap these days, and config files are relatively small. This
would avoid having to re-download the
Am 11.12.2015 um 15:09 schrieb Paul Wouters:
On 12/09/2015 06:02 PM, Oron Peled wrote:
Why don't we plan this feature in two stages:
* Fedora 24: turn it on by default, but *keep using results* from bad DNS
servers,
just issue a user-visible warning, possibly with a link to a page with
Am 10.12.2015 um 12:53 schrieb Rex Dieter:
Florian Weimer wrote:
When a %post scriptlet runs, is it guaranteed that the Requires:
dependencies have been unpacked? I understand that for cycle-breaking
purposes, it may not be true that the scriptlets for dependencies have
run. But are the fil
Am 09.12.2015 um 10:45 schrieb Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski:
On Wednesday, 09 December 2015 at 10:37, Tom Hughes wrote:
On 09/12/15 09:34, Dmitrij S. Kryzhevich wrote:
If your username is krege you got at least three e-mail on 2015-11-26,
-15 and -10 to krege fedoraproject org, therefore I
Am 08.12.2015 um 10:25 schrieb Petr Spacek:
On 8.12.2015 09:41, Gerd Hoffmann wrote:
Hi,
Start moving away from
split DNS because that's going to be very hard to support.
Seriously? How do you suggest to handle DNS for my 192.168.2.0/24 home
network then? Making the forward zone for h
Am 07.12.2015 um 21:40 schrieb Paul Wouters:
On Mon, 7 Dec 2015, Florian Weimer wrote:
Clearly, fedora cannot be changed to hijack a real domain, so
Fritzbox better
solve this quickly with an update, even if no one actually will
update their
router :(
Well, AVM could just register fritz.box
Am 07.12.2015 um 20:48 schrieb Paul Wouters:
Move your own domains within one of your real legitimate domains, and
you have the freedom to do whatever you want. Start moving away from
split DNS because that's going to be very hard to support.
that's simply not possible for every environment
Am 07.12.2015 um 15:56 schrieb Pádraig Brady:
On 01/12/15 15:59, Randy Barlow wrote:
This sounds overall pretty neat to me! One detail came to my mind: how
would this interact with VPN DNS servers? In my experience with VPNs,
it's common for them to provide a DNS server that allows internal hos
Am 07.12.2015 um 14:05 schrieb Michael Schwendt:
On Mon, 7 Dec 2015 11:53:26 +0100, Vít Ondruch wrote:
You can find all your updates under the 'profile' tab. You could even
set a bookmark to this page.
I can hardly see what has my "profile" in common with my updates. They
should be shown o
Am 06.12.2015 um 23:50 schrieb Michael Schwendt:
You expect packagers to review all their bodhi tickets everytime they
receive a nagmail from bodhi, and then to decide again whether to wait for
testers or whether to push manually without any prior feedback. That doesn't
scale for everyone. The
Am 06.12.2015 um 22:29 schrieb Michael Schwendt:
What's needed is software developers and policy makers to agree that some
areas are problematic, and to agree on ideas and an agenda. To agree that
the karma system is flawed and things like testers ignoring past votes and
overriding another's -1
Am 06.12.2015 um 21:20 schrieb Michael Schwendt:
And as you are not a package maintainer at Fedora, it could be that you
underestimate the amount of burden/bureaucracy that's considered
unnecessary by many packagers
explain me the burden/bureaucracy in the countless cases where
"fedora-easy-
Am 06.12.2015 um 21:22 schrieb Chris Murphy:
So yeah it's possible, but it's also unintended. And the same problem
could happen whether grubby modifies grub.cfg or grub-mkconfig
replaces it
that's wrong because grubby *clones* the last recent entry with all it's
parameters and don't touch ot
Am 06.12.2015 um 21:06 schrieb Chris Murphy:
On Sun, Dec 6, 2015 at 8:05 AM, drago01 wrote:
Hypothetically on BIOS systems, a GRUB core.img [1] could become stale
over time, and an upgraded grub-mkconfig could introduce an
incompatible format change, but that's really unlikely and wouldn't be
Am 06.12.2015 um 20:06 schrieb Michael Schwendt:
When I log in at https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/ the new web ui
greets me with a huge wall of uninteresting statistics, such as
* the activity of other update submitters,
* this week's top testers
* latest updates in need of testing
Wh
Am 06.12.2015 um 19:52 schrieb Michael Schwendt:
Currently I have two security fixes, which are two months old. Nobody
does the needed testing. The karma isn't reached. Nobody ensures that
they enter the stable updates repo even with 0 karma. Meanwhile, F21
has reached end-of-life without anyon
Am 06.12.2015 um 15:30 schrieb Richard Shaw:
Usually I don't dig too deep but I saw a "critical path" update for yum
on F22 (which should be using dnf anyway).
So why is a critical path update with +10 karma still in testing?
(I know how, there's no auto push to stable based on karma for this
Am 06.12.2015 um 04:26 schrieb Kevin Kofler:
Mathieu Bridon wrote:
Note that packages installed by PackageKit are not marked as installed,
so dnf always thinks it can remove them.
This makes "autoremove" completely unsuitable for end users and totally
inappropriate as a default (and the only
why in the world can the "offical" upgrade tools not handle things which
are with "yum --releasever=XX distro-sync" or now "dnf --releasever=XX
distro-sync" are a nobrainer for many years just because such packages
are get *downgraded* implicitly and so the "release"-tag don't matter at
all?
Am 02.12.2015 um 21:46 schrieb Andrew Lutomirski:
The fact that you assert your absolute correctness on a frequent basis
even when you're not correct makes me, and probably other people,
likely to discount everything you say even in the cases when you are
correct. If you want your opinion to b
Am 02.12.2015 um 21:31 schrieb Andrew Lutomirski:
On Wed, Dec 2, 2015 at 12:21 PM, Reindl Harald wrote:
Am 02.12.2015 um 21:16 schrieb Andrew Lutomirski:
On Wed, Dec 2, 2015 at 11:54 AM, Josh Boyer
wrote:
That's a matter of preference. If I have a newer kernel version
installed
Am 02.12.2015 um 21:16 schrieb Andrew Lutomirski:
On Wed, Dec 2, 2015 at 11:54 AM, Josh Boyer wrote:
That's a matter of preference. If I have a newer kernel version
installed that doesn't actually work, I want the older kernel I _just_
installed to be the default and top entry so my machine
Am 02.12.2015 um 20:35 schrieb Andrew Lutomirski:
1. grubby puts the most recently-installed kernel on top.
grub2-mkconfig puts the highest version on top. In the cases where
they differ, I'd argue that the latter is better
it's not better
it's pure crap when you have to downgrade because t
Am 02.12.2015 um 20:35 schrieb Andrew Lutomirski:
On Wed, Dec 2, 2015 at 9:50 AM, Josh Boyer wrote:
And you would do that via a single command how? By wrapping it in an
architecture/bootloader agnostic wrapper. Which is what grubby is.
But it's not. grubby does things like adding kernels
Am 02.12.2015 um 17:23 schrieb Andrew Lutomirski:
On Dec 2, 2015 8:15 AM, "Josh Boyer" mailto:jwbo...@fedoraproject.org>> wrote:
>
> On Tue, Dec 1, 2015 at 10:30 PM, Andrew Lutomirski mailto:l...@mit.edu>> wrote:
> > Since the old proposal to have the bootloader automatically enumerate
> >
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