Re: F15's /usr/include/rpc has disappeared; uncompilable

2011-05-05 Thread Dave Airlie
On Thu, 2011-05-05 at 10:52 -0600, Pete Zaitcev wrote: > On Thu, 05 May 2011 15:39:21 +0200 > Jim Meyering wrote: > > > Reported as http://bugzilla.redhat.com/702366 > > and http://bugzilla.redhat.com/702354 > > Well, here's NEWS: > > > * The RPC implementation in libc is obsoleted. Old progra

Re: git branch help?

2010-08-02 Thread Dave Airlie
On Tue, 2010-08-03 at 06:41 +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote: > Matt McCutchen wrote: > > Are you comparing git to Mercurial or to a centralized VCS? > > Both. Git is just a PITA in its own league, but DVCSes as a whole are a > broken (*) and unhelpful (inherently hard to use) concept. > > (*) e.g. bec

Re: [HEADS-UP] systemd for F14 - the next steps

2010-07-21 Thread Dave Airlie
On Thu, 2010-07-22 at 04:25 +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote: > On Thu, 22.07.10 12:06, Dave Airlie (airl...@redhat.com) wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > It is needed: > > > > > > if [ $1 -eq 1 ] ; then > > > # For new insta

Re: [HEADS-UP] systemd for F14 - the next steps

2010-07-21 Thread Dave Airlie
> > It is needed: > > if [ $1 -eq 1 ] ; then > # For new installations, hook unit file into the appropriate places > via symlinks > /usr/bin/systemd-install enable --realize=reload %{unit name}.service > > /dev/null 2>&1 || : > else > # For old installations, just reloa

Re: gcc-4.5-RH in F14

2010-07-08 Thread Dave Airlie
On Thu, 2010-07-08 at 18:17 -0700, Roland McGrath wrote: > > Is there a way to include pre-packaged workloads analysis? I realise > > we'd have to regenerate these somehow possible for each compiler update > > (not sure how the files look). > > What a "workload" means to the compiler is all the re

Re: gcc-4.5-RH in F14

2010-07-08 Thread Dave Airlie
On Thu, 2010-07-08 at 09:18 +0200, Jakub Jelinek wrote: > Hi! > > F14 now has gcc-4.5-RH compiler instead of 4.4-RH. > For the changes (especially user visible ones), see > http://gcc.gnu.org/gcc-4.5/changes.html > (though the list contains even many features that have been > backported to 4.4-RH.

Re: gcc-4.5-RH in F14

2010-07-08 Thread Dave Airlie
On Thu, 2010-07-08 at 17:51 -0700, Ulrich Drepper wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 07/08/2010 09:05 AM, Chen Lei wrote: > > > It seems MeeGo builds core packages by using PGO already. Is there > > anyone who would like to volunteer to write a packaging guideline > >

Re: who is Petr Pisar from redhat ?

2010-07-02 Thread Dave Airlie
On Fri, 2010-07-02 at 13:55 +0200, Léon Keijser wrote: > On Fri, 2010-07-02 at 11:34 +0200, Michael Schwendt wrote: > > On Fri, 02 Jul 2010 13:07:45 +0530, Rahul wrote: > > > > > IMO, there is absolutely nothing wrong with anyone > > > with commit access updating packages in Rawhide > > > > Of

Re: Bodhi 0.7.5 release

2010-07-01 Thread Dave Airlie
On Thu, 2010-07-01 at 11:48 +0200, Till Maas wrote: > On Thu, Jul 01, 2010 at 05:23:06PM +1000, Dave Airlie wrote: > > On Thu, 2010-07-01 at 07:00 +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote: > > > Dave Airlie wrote: > > > > So in your mind, there is a majority of people on your side,

concept of package "ownership"

2010-07-01 Thread Dave Airlie
So I've noticed maintainers of packages in Fedora seem to have a concept of ownership, and I'm wondering if we could remove that word from usage about maintainership. I'm come from working as a maintainer in the kernel, and its long been said that kernel maintainers don't *own* the code, they are

Re: Bodhi 0.7.5 release

2010-07-01 Thread Dave Airlie
On Thu, 2010-07-01 at 07:00 +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote: > Dave Airlie wrote: > > So in your mind, there is a majority of people on your side, but they > > are just too lazy to stand for election and take over the board? > > s/too lazy/too busy doing actual work/ > (as oppos

Re: Bodhi 0.7.5 release

2010-06-30 Thread Dave Airlie
On Thu, 2010-07-01 at 06:29 +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote: > Adam Williamson wrote: > > ...or convince enough others of your position that they will vote for > > the candidates you favour in our leadership elections. Since there've > > been several of these since you first stated you don't approve of >

Re: systemd (Was Re: tmpfs for strategic directories)

2010-06-01 Thread Dave Airlie
On Wed, 2010-06-02 at 07:58 +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote: > Dave Airlie wrote: > > So does gdm use multiple X servers, I wasn't aware there was any other > > way. > > So what does it do exactly? Spawn a new X server on the same vterm? Or on a > different vterm? What

Re: systemd (Was Re: tmpfs for strategic directories)

2010-06-01 Thread Dave Airlie
On Wed, 2010-06-02 at 02:33 +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote: > Roberto Ragusa wrote: > > In recent times some stupid (IMHO) ideas have been adopted in Linux > > just to copy what others do. Just as examples: the control of desktop > > widgets in KDE4 (functional GUI elements modified by a mouse-over???),

Re: Res: Open Letter: Why I, Kevin Kofler, am not rerunning for FESCo

2010-05-03 Thread Dave Airlie
On Tue, 2010-05-04 at 05:01 +0200, Ralf Corsepius wrote: > On 05/03/2010 11:12 PM, Jesse Keating wrote: > > On Mon, 2010-05-03 at 18:51 +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote: > >> > >> Except karma requirements (which were in force due to the critical path > >> process) did NOT prevent this particular regressi

Re: Open Letter: Why I, Kevin Kofler, am not rerunning for FESCo

2010-05-03 Thread Dave Airlie
On Mon, 2010-05-03 at 22:37 -0400, Orcan Ogetbil wrote: > On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 10:26 PM, Chris Adams wrote: > > Once upon a time, Orcan Ogetbil said: > >> The statistic talks. It doesn't only talk. It yells. Ignoring this > >> test statistic in favor of the large pool of imaginary users, who > >>

Re: Graphics drivers requiring kernel modesetting

2010-04-29 Thread Dave Airlie
On Thu, 2010-04-29 at 13:56 +0200, Dennis J. wrote: > On 04/29/2010 05:24 AM, Dave Airlie wrote: > > On Thu, 2010-04-29 at 04:15 +0200, Björn Persson wrote: > >> As far as I understand, both Nouveau and the Intel graphics driver now > >> require > >> kernel

Re: Graphics drivers requiring kernel modesetting

2010-04-28 Thread Dave Airlie
On Thu, 2010-04-29 at 04:15 +0200, Björn Persson wrote: > As far as I understand, both Nouveau and the Intel graphics driver now > require > kernel modesetting, starting with Fedora 13. Before I edit > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_debug_Xorg_problems a second time I > wanted to ask: Doe

Re: Impasse on packaging JOGL and Gluegen

2010-03-01 Thread Dave Airlie
On Mon, 2010-03-01 at 09:36 -0500, Adam Jackson wrote: > On Sun, 2010-02-28 at 15:49 +0100, Hans de Goede wrote: > > On 02/28/2010 03:39 PM, Henrique Junior wrote: > > > As Chen Lei said, the fact that JOGL needs this code may mean that it > > > will be blocked forever for packaging, but I do not p

Re: Radeon SurroundView support?

2010-02-17 Thread Dave Airlie
On Wed, 2010-02-17 at 18:40 -0700, Dariusz J. Garbowski wrote: > Hi, > > I was wondering about state of Radeon SurroundView support in Fedora. I tried > to get it working > couple of months ago with 4670 + IGP 790GX and even got the X server start > with 3 displays but > neither Gnome nor KDE

Re: Name that Tree!

2010-02-12 Thread Dave Airlie
On Fri, 2010-02-12 at 17:35 -0800, Josh Stone wrote: > On 02/12/2010 04:45 PM, Jesse Keating wrote: > > As part of no frozen rawhide, we'll have a new tree on the mirrors, > > pub/fedora/linux/development/13 That's where we'll be putting things > > that are tagged for the release after they get th

Re: Board efforts: scope, concept, and permission?

2010-02-03 Thread Dave Airlie
On Wed, 2010-02-03 at 19:08 +0100, Kevin Kofler wrote: > Josh Boyer wrote: > > It is. It's one step removed. There were people actively wanting to make > > Zope/Plone work via a compat-python stack. It went all the way to FESCo > > and got voted down. The zope/plone users were the target audien

Re: Disabling drm/ttm/radeon module loading for debugging

2010-01-23 Thread Dave Airlie
On Sat, 2010-01-23 at 18:49 +0200, Pasi Kärkkäinen wrote: > On Sat, Jan 23, 2010 at 11:41:15AM -0500, Clyde E. Kunkel wrote: > > On 01/23/2010 09:08 AM, Pasi Kärkkäinen wrote: > >> Hello, > >> > >> How can I make sure drm/radeon/ttm modules are not loaded, > >> until I do it manually myself? > >> >

libdrm vs mesa updates - update group for bodhi?

2010-01-18 Thread Dave Airlie
So I say libdrm was going to be karma'ed into updates, and I thought I'd disabled that but it all got confused a few days ago. So I thought well I better push all the packages that depends on it into updates as well, and they'll all end up in one signing pass and everyone will be happy. Now someh