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On Wed, Dec 18, 2024 at 07:21:07PM +0100, Fabio Valentini wrote:
> On Wed, Dec 18, 2024 at 6:31 PM Matthew Miller
> wrote:
> >
> > On Wed, Dec 18, 2024 at 11:17:12AM -0600, Michel Lind wrote:
> > > but the only document I see for creating a SIG is still only a wiki page
> > > https://fedoraprojec
On Thu, 2024-12-19 at 00:31 +0100, Javier Martinez Canillas wrote:
> I don't understand what was the goal exactly of making this a public
> announcement rather than just notifying the decision to the affected
> person. And I also don't understand what was the hurry to do it
> before
> having a publ
On Wed, 18 Dec 2024 at 22:35, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
> Oh, one additional item I wanted to mention...
>
> I wonder if we could encourage maintainers/community members to do
> something like this:
> https://cassidoo.co/post/remote-intros/
>
> TLDR: a small page listing your contact prefs, timezones, e
On Mon, Dec 16, 2024 at 7:22 PM Al Stone wrote:
>
> On 16 Dec 2024 08:08, Stephen Smoogen wrote:
> > On Fri, 13 Dec 2024 at 20:33, Josh Stone wrote:
> >
> > > On Tuesday (2024-12-10), the Fedora Engineering Steering Committee
> > > (FESCo) met in a private meeting to discuss whether Fedora contri
Excellent! Thanks for putting this together Davide. Count me in.
--Neil
On Wed, Dec 18, 2024 at 7:55 AM Davide Cavalca
wrote:
>
> MkDocs (https://www.mkdocs.org/) is a Markdown-based website maker,
> geared towards technical documentation. The CentOS Project has
> historically used MkDocs for S
On Wed, Dec 18, 2024 at 11:35 PM Kevin Fenzi wrote:
>
> Oh, one additional item I wanted to mention...
>
> I wonder if we could encourage maintainers/community members to do
> something like this:
> https://cassidoo.co/post/remote-intros/
>
> TLDR: a small page listing your contact prefs, timezone
Oh, one additional item I wanted to mention...
I wonder if we could encourage maintainers/community members to do
something like this:
https://cassidoo.co/post/remote-intros/
TLDR: a small page listing your contact prefs, timezones, etc.
kevin
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On 12/18/24 8:26 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
Since I have not chimed in on this yet, let me just say that I am deeply
sorry how the communication/timing/process went here. At the least I
should have realized that many fesco members would be already away this
week, so with lack of quorum, it's hard for
On 12/18/24 6:27 PM, Matthew Miller wrote:
The Fedora Council met today. After our regular meeting (where we're taking
the next formal step in the gitforge process!) [1], we had a private video
call for about half an hour on this topic. As transparency is part of what's
at issue, we intentionally
Hi,
I am going to update astyle to the latest 3.6.6 version that changes
ABI and also changes soname. The 2 dependent packages (codeblocks and
kdevelop) will be rebuilt in a side-tag.
Dan
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On Tue, Dec 17, 2024 at 02:28:09PM +0100, Vít Ondruch wrote:
> This is not recent example, but really bad example of PP's work IMHO:
> https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/ruby/c/c31c7edb6913eb7417ee68c59997548df2943dde
I do not think nitpicking over _ten year old_ commits is helpful.
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On Wed, Dec 18, 2024 at 07:21:07PM +0100, Fabio Valentini wrote:
> For the latter (i.e. also be able to add the group with commit access
> to packages), you actually *MUST* create a mailing list, which needs
> to be associated with the bugzilla account of the group, and where
> bugzilla will send b
On Mon, Dec 09, 2024 at 10:09:44AM -0800, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
> Hey folks.
>
> In 1 week, I'd like to bump libntlm from 1.6 to 1.8.
> This involves a soname bump.
>
> Affected are I think (gkrellm and libgsasl).
> Maintainers bcced here.
>
> I ran a mpb on the 1.8 version and both those packages
Since I have not chimed in on this yet, let me just say that I am deeply
sorry how the communication/timing/process went here. At the least I
should have realized that many fesco members would be already away this
week, so with lack of quorum, it's hard for fesco as a whole to respond
or take actio
On Tue, Dec 17, 2024 at 02:28:09PM +0100, Vít Ondruch wrote:
>
> Dne 16. 12. 24 v 23:13 Miroslav Suchý napsal(a):
> >Dne 16. 12. 24 v 7:03 odp. Miro Hrončok napsal(a):
> >>
> >>And based on my experience, I doubt this particular
> >>provenpackager status was stripped based on something like that.
On Wed, Dec 18, 2024 at 6:31 PM Matthew Miller wrote:
>
> On Wed, Dec 18, 2024 at 11:17:12AM -0600, Michel Lind wrote:
> > but the only document I see for creating a SIG is still only a wiki page
> > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Creating_a_Fedora_SIG
>
> This all desperately needs a refresh. All
On Wed, Dec 18, 2024 at 6:35 PM Clemens Lang wrote:
>
> I realized that after I clicked send, but I don’t think it really makes a
> difference.
> The main admin for many of the packages maintained by the crypto team is no
> longer the person that takes care of the tickets by default.
>
> For exa
On Wed, Dec 18, 2024 at 10:55:13AM -0600, Jason Tibbitts wrote:
> > maxwell--- via devel-announce
> > writes:
>
> > fedscm-admin cqi, ignatenkobrain, limb, 3 weeks
> > ago
> > mohanboddu, orphan, tibbs
> >
Hi,
> On 18. Dec 2024, at 17:51, Fabio Valentini wrote:
>
> On Wed, Dec 18, 2024 at 10:43 AM Clemens Lang wrote:
>>
>> See https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/stunnel, or
>> https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/gnutls, owned by @crypto-team.
>
> Looks like there are multiple different things be
On Wed, Dec 18, 2024 at 11:17:12AM -0600, Michel Lind wrote:
> but the only document I see for creating a SIG is still only a wiki page
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Creating_a_Fedora_SIG
This all desperately needs a refresh. All I ask is: please, please don't
create a new mailing list. :)
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The Fedora Council met today. After our regular meeting (where we're taking
the next formal step in the gitforge process!) [1], we had a private video
call for about half an hour on this topic. As transparency is part of what's
at issue, we intentionally did not make any decisions in that call; we
On Wed, Dec 18, 2024 at 12:55:07PM +, Davide Cavalca wrote:
> MkDocs (https://www.mkdocs.org/) is a Markdown-based website maker, geared
> towards technical documentation. The CentOS Project has historically used
> MkDocs for SIG documentation, and the CentOS Docs SIG has recently
> standardize
On 12/18/24 03:07, Fedora Rawhide Report wrote:
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Package: libtimezonemap-0.4.5.3-2.fc41
Summary: Time zone map widget for Gtk+
RPMs:libtimezonemap libtimezonemap-devel
Size:12.34 MiB
libtimezonemap seems to have been prematurely retired. While anaconda
no l
On Wed, Dec 18, 2024 at 02:15:23PM +0100, Pierre-Yves Chibon wrote:
> On Wed, Dec 18, 2024 at 09:03:45AM +, Daniel P. Berrangé wrote:
> > On Wed, Dec 18, 2024 at 09:53:17AM +0100, Miroslav Suchý wrote:
> > > Dne 18. 12. 24 v 1:38 dop. maxwell--- via devel-announce napsal(a):
> > > > The followi
On Wed, Dec 18, 2024 at 03:08:25PM -, Leigh Scott wrote:
> Please readd libtimezone for f42 and give me ownership.
>
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2333021
>
> https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/libtimezonemap/c/3e1e20e5d49c4a3b144f8fb285c4b913dfc9bd43?branch=rawhide
Indeed, t
> maxwell--- via devel-announce
> writes:
> fedscm-admin cqi, ignatenkobrain, limb, 3 weeks
> ago
> mohanboddu, orphan, tibbs
>
I can't think of any reason this shouldn't simply be retired. All of
the
On Wed, Dec 18, 2024 at 10:43 AM Clemens Lang wrote:
>
> Hi Neal,
>
> > On 18. Dec 2024, at 10:21, Neal Gompa wrote:
> >
> > One thing I hope we never do is allow something to be principally
> > owned by groups as a rule.
>
> See https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/stunnel, or
> https://src.fedor
On Wed, Dec 18, 2024 at 3:40 PM Miroslav Suchý wrote:
>
> Dne 18. 12. 24 v 2:25 odp. Emmanuel Seyman napsal(a):
> > If there are several co-maintainers, which one do you choose?
>
> Anyone.
That's literally the worst way to handle this IMO.
Packages that get orphaned due to long-standing "issues
On Wed, 2024-12-18 at 15:08 +, Leigh Scott wrote:
> Please readd libtimezone for f42 and give me ownership.
>
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2333021
>
> https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/libtimezonemap/c/3e1e20e5d49c4a3b144f8fb285c4b913dfc9bd43?branch=rawhide
IMHO , we should
libtimezone = libtimezonemap
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Please readd libtimezone for f42 and give me ownership.
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2333021
https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/libtimezonemap/c/3e1e20e5d49c4a3b144f8fb285c4b913dfc9bd43?branch=rawhide
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On Tue, Dec 17, 2024 at 11:00:49PM -0800, Adam Williamson wrote:
> make one up on the fly, which seems not to have gone optimally. But I
> don't think the reasonable conclusion to draw from this is "everything
> must either fall under the CoC or nothing".
Strong agree. Code of Conduct Committee is
Dne 18. 12. 24 v 13:18 Miroslav Suchý napsal(a):
Dne 18. 12. 24 v 10:53 dop. Daniel P. Berrangé napsal(a):
I don't accept that co-maintainers are (or should be assumed to be)
"typically" non-responsive. That is a depressing denigration of
many Fedora co-maintainer's work.
During this year, as
Dne 18. 12. 24 v 2:25 odp. Emmanuel Seyman napsal(a):
If there are several co-maintainers, which one do you choose?
Anyone.
If one of those co-maintainers is there to maintain a specific part
of the package (a given feature, bindings to $LANGUAGE, ...), how do
you ensure he is not promoted t
On 18. 12. 24 12:53, Miroslav Suchý wrote:
Dne 18. 12. 24 v 10:53 dop. Miro Hrončok napsal(a):
When the package is orphaned (e.g. because the buzgilla that said it does not
install was ignored by all 8 maintainers), it would be assigned to one of
them, we are at 7 maintainers. It would take 8 a
aprsd orphan 4
weeks ago
xdemorse orphan 4
weeks ago
xpsk31orphan 4
weeks ago
I've taken these.
Cheers
Davide
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* Miroslav Suchý [18/12/2024 12:59] :
>
> emails. And instead of putting the package on the list, it would the API
> call to pagure and assign the package to another co-maintainer. So there
> will be alway one main-maintainer.
If there are several co-maintainers, which one do you choose?
If one o
On Wed, Dec 18, 2024 at 09:03:45AM +, Daniel P. Berrangé wrote:
> On Wed, Dec 18, 2024 at 09:53:17AM +0100, Miroslav Suchý wrote:
> > Dne 18. 12. 24 v 1:38 dop. maxwell--- via devel-announce napsal(a):
> > > The following packages are orphaned and will be retired when they
> > > are orphaned fo
On Wed, Dec 18, 2024 at 5:55 AM Davide Cavalca
wrote:
>
> MkDocs (https://www.mkdocs.org/) is a Markdown-based website maker,
> geared towards technical documentation. The CentOS Project has
> historically used MkDocs for SIG documentation, and the CentOS Docs SIG
> has recently standardized on Mk
MkDocs (https://www.mkdocs.org/) is a Markdown-based website maker,
geared towards technical documentation. The CentOS Project has
historically used MkDocs for SIG documentation, and the CentOS Docs SIG
has recently standardized on MkDocs for the overall project, leading to
the creation of a co
Dne 18. 12. 24 v 10:53 dop. Daniel P. Berrangé napsal(a):
I don't accept that co-maintainers are (or should be assumed to be)
"typically" non-responsive. That is a depressing denigration of
many Fedora co-maintainer's work.
During this year, as part of my work on SPDX, I opened several hundreds
Dne 18. 12. 24 v 10:51 dop. Vít Ondruch napsal(a):
Also making `ruby-packagers-sig` as a primary contact is problematic, because the group cannot e.g. retire such
package without opening rel-eng ticket.
Valid concern. Can be solved by skipping @ID. So only real people would be
assigned.
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Dne 18. 12. 24 v 10:03 dop. Daniel P. Berrangé napsal(a):
What would you suggest
if there are currently 2 (or more) "admin"s (co-maintainers).
No. I thinking about implementation in the script that generates
"Orphaned packages looking for new maintainers"
emails. And instead of putting the
Dne 18. 12. 24 v 10:53 dop. Miro Hrončok napsal(a):
When the package is orphaned (e.g. because the buzgilla that said it does not install was ignored by all 8
maintainers), it would be assigned to one of them, we are at 7 maintainers. It would take 8 another weeks to orphan it
again, and again,
Daniel P. Berrangé venit, vidit, dixit 2024-12-18 10:53:00:
> On Wed, Dec 18, 2024 at 10:43:33AM +0100, Vít Ondruch wrote:
> > I would object! We've been there prior we arrived to the current workflow.
> > And the typical situation was that such package was moved from one
> > non-responsive maintai
On čtvrtek 5. prosince 2024 10:21:28, středoevropský standardní čas Pavel
Raiskup wrote:
> Would you mind updating the change wiki page with the list of
> features/commands that are provided by the `git` package on top of
> `git-core`? Is it expected we do this only for Fedora Rawhide, or
> shall
On 18. 12. 24 9:53, Miroslav Suchý wrote:
Dne 18. 12. 24 v 1:38 dop. maxwell--- via devel-announce napsal(a):
The following packages are orphaned and will be retired when they
are orphaned for six weeks, unless someone adopts them. If you know for sure
that the package should be retired, please
On Wed, Dec 18, 2024 at 10:43:33AM +0100, Vít Ondruch wrote:
> I would object! We've been there prior we arrived to the current workflow.
> And the typical situation was that such package was moved from one
> non-responsive maintainer to the other non-responsive maintainer. With my
> handle beginni
Dne 18. 12. 24 v 10:42 Clemens Lang napsal(a):
Hi Neal,
On 18. Dec 2024, at 10:21, Neal Gompa wrote:
One thing I hope we never do is allow something to be principally
owned by groups as a rule.
See https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/stunnel, or
https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/gnutls, ow
I would object! We've been there prior we arrived to the current
workflow. And the typical situation was that such package was moved from
one non-responsive maintainer to the other non-responsive maintainer.
With my handle beginning with "v" I was always the last to become the
maintainer and I
Hi Neal,
> On 18. Dec 2024, at 10:21, Neal Gompa wrote:
>
> One thing I hope we never do is allow something to be principally
> owned by groups as a rule.
See https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/stunnel, or
https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/gnutls, owned by @crypto-team.
> As a general pract
On Wed, Dec 18, 2024 at 02:21:19AM -0700, Neal Gompa wrote:
> On Wed, Dec 18, 2024 at 2:04 AM Daniel P. Berrangé
> wrote:
> >
> > On Wed, Dec 18, 2024 at 09:53:17AM +0100, Miroslav Suchý wrote:
> > > Dne 18. 12. 24 v 1:38 dop. maxwell--- via devel-announce napsal(a):
> > > > The following package
On Wed, Dec 18, 2024 at 2:04 AM Daniel P. Berrangé wrote:
>
> On Wed, Dec 18, 2024 at 09:53:17AM +0100, Miroslav Suchý wrote:
> > Dne 18. 12. 24 v 1:38 dop. maxwell--- via devel-announce napsal(a):
> > > The following packages are orphaned and will be retired when they
> > > are orphaned for six w
On Wed, Dec 18, 2024 at 09:53:17AM +0100, Miroslav Suchý wrote:
> Dne 18. 12. 24 v 1:38 dop. maxwell--- via devel-announce napsal(a):
> > The following packages are orphaned and will be retired when they
> > are orphaned for six weeks, unless someone adopts them. If you know for sure
> > that the p
Dne 18. 12. 24 v 1:38 dop. maxwell--- via devel-announce napsal(a):
The following packages are orphaned and will be retired when they
are orphaned for six weeks, unless someone adopts them. If you know for sure
that the package should be retired, please do so now with a proper reason:
https://fed
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