Re: Schedule for Tuesday's FESCo Meeting (2024-07-23)

2024-07-24 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Wed, Jul 24 2024 at 09:41:16 AM -04:00:00, Stephen Smoogen wrote: 1. There are some subset of people who use Fedora because they thought it was a privacy focused distribution. Their concerns did not seem to be taken into account or it needs to be made clearer that is not what the project a

Re: Rebasing Blender 4.2 for Rawhide and Fedora 40

2024-07-24 Thread Bruno Postle
On Wed, 24 Jul 2024 at 16:45, Luya Tshimbalanga wrote: > Blender 4.2 currently failed on Rawhide due to Python 3.13 API changes and > the issue is already reported[1]. Patch welcome. > > The plan is to build for Fedora 40 containing no major soversion changes. > Users will notice majority of add-

Re: Rustc version

2024-07-24 Thread Randy Barlow via devel
On Wed, 2024-07-24 at 22:13 +0200, Albert Larsan wrote: > Know that this is one of the cases that is explicitly not covered > under > the stability guarantee, i.e that code without warnings may get > warnings > on the next version Agreed. > This, the crate should fix the bug, and a one-line pat

Re: Rustc version

2024-07-24 Thread Fabio Valentini
On Wed, Jul 24, 2024 at 8:04 PM Emanuel Lima wrote: > > It's kata-containers. It works from 1.75 to 1.78 but not with 1.79. > > I opened an issue upstream: > https://github.com/kata-containers/kata-containers/issues/10067 You can't (and really shouldn't) want to build with an older Rust version j

Re: Schedule for Tuesday's FESCo Meeting (2024-07-23)

2024-07-24 Thread Przemek Klosowski via devel
On 7/23/24 21:27, Kevin Kofler via devel wrote: But IMHO, Fedora used to already be almost perfect, to the point where changing anything could only possibly make it worse. I just can't agree with this statement---both in some deep philosophical sense and in practical terms. F is for First! Yes

Re: Schedule for Tuesday's FESCo Meeting (2024-07-23)

2024-07-24 Thread Gary Buhrmaster
On Wed, Jul 24, 2024 at 6:18 PM Stephen Gallagher wrote: > For what it's worth, I don't believe that this process will work well. > I'm all for democracy, but direct democracy without compulsory voting > inevitably leads to "grievance-based voting", where the majority of > folks ignore the discus

Re: Schedule for Tuesday's FESCo Meeting (2024-07-23)

2024-07-24 Thread Stephen Smoogen
On Wed, 24 Jul 2024 at 14:18, Stephen Gallagher wrote: > > On Wed, Jul 24, 2024 at 1:46 PM Miroslav Suchý wrote: > > > > Dne 24. 07. 24 v 12:30 odp. Joe Orton napsal(a): > > > > Having a "majority rule" vote of e.g. packagers or provenpackagers on > > major technical decisions would be far superi

Re: Rustc version

2024-07-24 Thread Randy Barlow via devel
On Wed, Jul 24, 2024 at 06:03:10PM -, Emanuel Lima wrote: > It's kata-containers. It works from 1.75 to 1.78 but not with 1.79. > > I opened an issue upstream: > https://github.com/kata-containers/kata-containers/issues/10067 One more note: You could also work around this by patching that one

Re: Rustc version

2024-07-24 Thread Randy Barlow via devel
On Wed, Jul 24, 2024 at 06:03:10PM -, Emanuel Lima wrote: > It's kata-containers. It works from 1.75 to 1.78 but not with 1.79. > > I opened an issue upstream: > https://github.com/kata-containers/kata-containers/issues/10067 For what it's worth, this isn't really a true issue. It looks like

Re: Schedule for Tuesday's FESCo Meeting (2024-07-23)

2024-07-24 Thread Stephen Gallagher
On Wed, Jul 24, 2024 at 1:46 PM Miroslav Suchý wrote: > > Dne 24. 07. 24 v 12:30 odp. Joe Orton napsal(a): > > Having a "majority rule" vote of e.g. packagers or provenpackagers on > major technical decisions would be far superior, in my view. Apache > communities have worked this way forever. > >

Re: Rustc version

2024-07-24 Thread Emanuel Lima
It's kata-containers. It works from 1.75 to 1.78 but not with 1.79. I opened an issue upstream: https://github.com/kata-containers/kata-containers/issues/10067 -- ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to de

Fedora CoreOS Community Meeting Minutes 2024-07-24

2024-07-24 Thread Yasmin de Souza
Minutes: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/meeting-1_matrix_fedoraproject-org/2024-07-24/fedora-coreos-meeting.2024-07-24-16.29.html Minutes (text): https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/meeting-1_matrix_fedoraproject-org/2024-07-24/fedora-coreos-meeting.2024-07-24-16.29.txt Log: https://meetbot.fedora

Re: Schedule for Tuesday's FESCo Meeting (2024-07-23)

2024-07-24 Thread Miroslav Suchý
Dne 24. 07. 24 v 12:30 odp. Joe Orton napsal(a): Having a "majority rule" vote of e.g. packagers or provenpackagers on major technical decisions would be far superior, in my view. Apache communities have worked this way forever. You can always propose this as a change to our process. -- Mirosl

Re: [SPDX] Mass license change from Boost to BSL-1.0

2024-07-24 Thread Miroslav Suchý
Dne 19. 06. 24 v 8:01 dop. Miroslav Suchý napsal(a): Hi. I am going to do the mass change of the license from Boost to BSL-1.0 Done. The diff is here https://k00.fr/u4sq8h12 -- Miroslav Suchy, RHCA Red Hat, Manager, Packit and CPT, #brno, #fedora-buildsys -- __

Re: Rustc version

2024-07-24 Thread Randy Barlow via devel
On Wed, Jul 24, 2024 at 11:29:43AM -0300, Emanuel Lima wrote: > To build the package that I maintain, I need a specific version of rustc, > 1.75. Given that the default buildroot has rustc 1.79, how do I create a > new buildroot (or side tag) just for my package with this specific rustc? Rust shou

Re: [SPDX] Mass license change ASL 2.0 to Apache-2.0

2024-07-24 Thread Miroslav Suchý
Dne 18. 06. 24 v 6:42 dop. Miroslav Suchý napsal(a): I am going to do the mass change of the license from ASL 2.0 to Apache-2.0 Done. Following the Tuesday's FESCO decision I amended my script and added there comments. Here is the diff https://k00.fr/tkbg4k81 -- Miroslav Suchy, RHCA Red Hat

Re: Schedule for Tuesday's FESCo Meeting (2024-07-23)

2024-07-24 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Wed, Jul 24, 2024 at 09:41:16AM GMT, Stephen Smoogen wrote: ...snip... > > That said, I also find this unanimous approval problematic for a > couple of reasons: > > 1. There are some subset of people who use Fedora because they thought > it was a privacy focused distribution. Their concerns

Rebasing Blender 4.2 for Rawhide and Fedora 40

2024-07-24 Thread Luya Tshimbalanga
Hello team, Blender 4.2 currently failed on Rawhide due to Python 3.13 API changes and the issue is already reported[1]. Patch welcome. The plan is to build for Fedora 40 containing no major soversion changes. Users will notice majority of add-ons are now relocated as  as extensions similar

Rustc version

2024-07-24 Thread Emanuel Lima
To build the package that I maintain, I need a specific version of rustc, 1.75. Given that the default buildroot has rustc 1.79, how do I create a new buildroot (or side tag) just for my package with this specific rustc? This applies to F40 and Rawhide -- Kind Regards, Emanuel Lima Software E

Re: Schedule for Tuesday's FESCo Meeting (2024-07-23)

2024-07-24 Thread Daniel P . Berrangé
On Wed, Jul 24, 2024 at 09:41:16AM -0400, Stephen Smoogen wrote: > That said, I also find this unanimous approval problematic for a > couple of reasons: > > 1. There are some subset of people who use Fedora because they thought > it was a privacy focused distribution. Their concerns did not seem t

Re: Schedule for Tuesday's FESCo Meeting (2024-07-23)

2024-07-24 Thread Daniel P . Berrangé
On Wed, Jul 24, 2024 at 03:27:01AM +0200, Kevin Kofler via devel wrote: > > The big issue with the process is that there is this ground assumption in > Fedora that change is inherently good, and hence any Change should be > approved by default. But IMHO, Fedora used to already be almost perfect, t

Re: Schedule for Tuesday's FESCo Meeting (2024-07-23)

2024-07-24 Thread Stephen Smoogen
On Tue, 23 Jul 2024 at 21:32, Kevin Kofler via devel wrote: > > Am Mittwoch, 24. Juli 2024 02:52:44 CEST schrieb Gary Buhrmaster: > > On Tue, Jul 23, 2024 at 10:38 PM Kevin Kofler via devel > > (*) And in addition, there is lots of cases > > where only those with negative feedback > > will decide

Re: Schedule for Tuesday's FESCo Meeting (2024-07-23)

2024-07-24 Thread Josh Boyer
On Wed, Jul 24, 2024 at 6:31 AM Joe Orton wrote: > > On Tue, Jul 23, 2024 at 08:01:11PM -0400, Josh Boyer wrote: > > FESCo is an elected body. If people aren't happy with how they are being > > represented, I would encourage them to find candidates they feel will > > represent their interests bet

Re: How to make the rpminspect test required to pass Zuul CI?

2024-07-24 Thread Jun Aruga (he / him)
On Tue, Jul 23, 2024 at 4:28 PM Aleksandra Fedorova wrote: > > Hi, > > On Tue, Jul 23, 2024 at 4:18 PM Jun Aruga (he / him) > wrote: >> >> Hello, >> >> Currently the rpminspect test is executed as non-voting in Zuul CI.[1] >> I want to change the setting to make rpminspect required to pass the >

Re: Schedule for Tuesday's FESCo Meeting (2024-07-23)

2024-07-24 Thread Joe Orton
On Tue, Jul 23, 2024 at 08:01:11PM -0400, Josh Boyer wrote: > FESCo is an elected body. If people aren't happy with how they are being > represented, I would encourage them to find candidates they feel will > represent their interests better and get them to run for election. Having FESCo empowere

Re: Schedule for Tuesday's FESCo Meeting (2024-07-23)

2024-07-24 Thread Miro Hrončok
On 24. 07. 24 0:27, Kevin Kofler via devel wrote: Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: #3244 Change: Retire Python 2.7 https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/3244 APPROVED (+8, 0, 0) This is going to break the build of a whole bunch of compatibility packages, which will in turn break a lot of software in

Re: Schedule for Tuesday's FESCo Meeting (2024-07-23)

2024-07-24 Thread Alexander Sosedkin
On Wed, Jul 24, 2024 at 12:33 AM Kevin Kofler via devel wrote: > > Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > > #3244 Change: Retire Python 2.7 > > https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/3244 > > APPROVED (+8, 0, 0) > > This is going to break the build of a whole bunch of compatibility packages, > which will in

Re: Schedule for Tuesday's FESCo Meeting (2024-07-23)

2024-07-24 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Wed, Jul 24, 2024 at 03:27:01AM +0200, Kevin Kofler via devel wrote: > Am Mittwoch, 24. Juli 2024 02:52:44 CEST schrieb Gary Buhrmaster: > > On Tue, Jul 23, 2024 at 10:38 PM Kevin Kofler via devel > > wrote: > > > > > And this one is yet another case of FESCo rubberstamping a change without >

Re: [Java related] packaging Italian ID card middleware

2024-07-24 Thread Andreas Tunek
Den ons 24 juli 2024 kl 08:32 skrev Björn Persson : > Kevin Kofler via devel wrote: > > And at least the German stuff (and the Italian, Portuguese, and Estonian > > ones) is Free Software. The Austrian ID Austria app is entirely > proprietary. > > Though, as far as I know, you can buy physical FID