Sinking Fund meaning

2023-11-16 Thread Stanlee's Studio
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Re: Rust bindings for Python (pyo3 versions <0.19, cpython) broken with Python 3.12

2023-11-16 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Mon, Nov 13, 2023 at 07:25:10PM +0100, Fabio Valentini wrote: > > Yup, I've mentioned that in the bug I filed for python-bcrypt - > It might be as simple as bumping the dependency on pyo3 from v0.15 to v0.19. I've made an attempt here: https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/python-bcrypt/pull-req

Re: Groff: Revert the mapping of special characters for UTF-8 devices introduced in 1.23.0 version

2023-11-16 Thread Adam Williamson
On Thu, 2023-11-16 at 23:41 +0100, Lukas Javorsky wrote: > > > > I think an upstream only wants to adhere to the language specification > > (groff_char(7)). These small differences became prominent with the advent > > of > > UTF-8 capable terminals. They have always been visible in a PostScript >

Re: Groff: Revert the mapping of special characters for UTF-8 devices introduced in 1.23.0 version

2023-11-16 Thread Lukas Javorsky
> > I think an upstream only wants to adhere to the language specification > (groff_char(7)). These small differences became prominent with the advent > of > UTF-8 capable terminals. They have always been visible in a PostScript > output. > > Imagine you are the upstream and a user sends you a bug

Planned Outage - pagure.io network switch updates - 2023-11-17 13:00 UTC

2023-11-16 Thread Kevin Fenzi
Planned Outage - pagure.io network switch updates - 2023-11-17 13:00 UTC There will be an outage starting at 2023-11-17 13:00UTC, which will last approximately 4 hours. To convert UTC to your local time, take a look at http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/UTCHowto or run: date -d '2023-1

Re: Can we assume all chroots follow UsrMove?

2023-11-16 Thread Neal Gompa
On Thu, Nov 16, 2023 at 10:37 AM John Reiser wrote: > > > Is it safe to assume that this symbolic link [/lib64 -> usr/lib64] > > exists in all chroots? > > This includes the initial ramdisk, recovery environments, and chroots > > for confining services. > > It is unsafe unless prominently document

Summary/Minutes from today's FESCo Meeting (2023-11-16)

2023-11-16 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
#info This meeting is cancelled because of lack of quorum. #info Next meeting will be in two weeks (because of Thanksgiving in U.S.) #action zbyszek will chair the next meeting Minutes: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-2/2023-11-16/fesco.2023-11-16-17.00.html Minutes (text): http

Re: F40 Change Proposal: Linker Error on Security Issues (System-Wide)

2023-11-16 Thread Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski
On Thursday, 16 November 2023 at 09:43, Nick Clifton wrote: > Hi Dominik, > > > Does the `--no-warn-rwx-segments` disable erroring out on both loadable > > rwx segments and tls rwx segments? > > Yes. > > At the time I wrote the feature I did consider having separate options > for the two tests,

Re: Can we assume all chroots follow UsrMove?

2023-11-16 Thread John Reiser
Is it safe to assume that this symbolic link [/lib64 -> usr/lib64] exists in all chroots? This includes the initial ramdisk, recovery environments, and chroots for confining services. It is unsafe unless prominently documented in the places that are likely to be seen by affected developers, now

Re: Summary/Minutes from today's FESCo Meeting (2023-11-09)

2023-11-16 Thread Stephen Smoogen
On Thu, 16 Nov 2023 at 07:46, Kevin Kofler via devel < devel@lists.fedoraproject.org> wrote: > Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > > This is called "shooting the messenger". > > It is not. See my reply to Fabio. > > > LSB requires various obsolete interfaces, in particular it requires > > Python

Re: Schedule for Thursday's FESCo Meeting (2023-11-16)

2023-11-16 Thread Stephen Gallagher
On Thu, Nov 16, 2023 at 7:43 AM Major Hayden wrote: > > On Thu, Nov 16, 2023, at 05:59, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > > Following is the list of topics that will be discussed in the > > FESCo meeting Thursday at 17:00UTC in #fedora-meeting-2 on > > irc.libera.chat. > > I won't be able to at

Re: Summary/Minutes from today's FESCo Meeting (2023-11-09)

2023-11-16 Thread Miro Hrončok
On 16. 11. 23 13:45, Kevin Kofler via devel wrote: It would be very much possible to support the Python 2 parts of the spec, without even shipping unmaintained software: Package Tauthon 2.8.4, and make both /usr/bin/python and /usr/bin/python2 symlinks to /usr/bin/tauthon. That should have been t

Re: HEADS UP: gdal-3.8.0 coming to rawhide

2023-11-16 Thread Sandro Mani
This is now done, there are two unrelated failures: - gazebo: graphviz 9.x incompatibility - vfrnav: broken build dependencies (nothing provides libsundials_sunlinsolklu.so.4.6.1()(64bit) needed by octave-6:8.4.0-1.fc40.x86_64 from build) Sandro On 15.11.23 11:42, Sandro Mani wrote: Hi I'

Re: Summary/Minutes from today's FESCo Meeting (2023-11-09)

2023-11-16 Thread Daniel P . Berrangé
On Thu, Nov 16, 2023 at 01:39:14PM +0100, Kevin Kofler via devel wrote: > Fabio Valentini wrote: > > There's a difference between *claiming* LSB compliance (what you refer > > to as backwards compatibility ?) and actually *achieving* it. > > Claiming it (the thing we objected to) without achieving

Re: Can we assume all chroots follow UsrMove?

2023-11-16 Thread Neal Gompa
On Thu, Nov 16, 2023 at 7:42 AM Florian Weimer wrote: > > A while back, we made /lib64 a symbolic link to /usr/lib64: > > > > Is it safe to assume that this symbolic link exists in all chroots? > This includes the initial ramdisk, recovery enviro

Re: Summary/Minutes from today's FESCo Meeting (2023-11-09)

2023-11-16 Thread Kevin Kofler via devel
Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > This is called "shooting the messenger". It is not. See my reply to Fabio. > LSB requires various obsolete interfaces, in particular it requires > Python 2 to be available as /usr/bin/python. Comment [1] contains a > nice listing. We are not going to bring bac

Re: Schedule for Thursday's FESCo Meeting (2023-11-16)

2023-11-16 Thread Major Hayden
On Thu, Nov 16, 2023, at 05:59, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > Following is the list of topics that will be discussed in the > FESCo meeting Thursday at 17:00UTC in #fedora-meeting-2 on > irc.libera.chat. I won't be able to attend today's meeting as I have two other meetings in the same slo

Can we assume all chroots follow UsrMove?

2023-11-16 Thread Florian Weimer
A while back, we made /lib64 a symbolic link to /usr/lib64: Is it safe to assume that this symbolic link exists in all chroots? This includes the initial ramdisk, recovery environments, and chroots for confining services. If we can assume that,

Re: Summary/Minutes from today's FESCo Meeting (2023-11-09)

2023-11-16 Thread Kevin Kofler via devel
Fabio Valentini wrote: > There's a difference between *claiming* LSB compliance (what you refer > to as backwards compatibility ?) and actually *achieving* it. > Claiming it (the thing we objected to) without achieving it (i.e. the > status quo for many Fedora releases) is a lie that helps nobody.

Fedora rawhide compose report: 20231116.n.0 changes

2023-11-16 Thread Fedora Rawhide Report
OLD: Fedora-Rawhide-20231115.n.0 NEW: Fedora-Rawhide-20231116.n.0 = SUMMARY = Added images:1 Dropped images: 3 Added packages: 5 Dropped packages:2 Upgraded packages: 87 Downgraded packages: 0 Size of added packages: 7.11 MiB Size of dropped packages

[Fedocal] Reminder meeting : ELN SIG

2023-11-16 Thread sgallagh
Dear all, You are kindly invited to the meeting: ELN SIG on 2023-11-17 from 12:00:00 to 13:00:00 US/Eastern At fedora-meet...@irc.libera.chat The meeting will be about: Source: https://calendar.fedoraproject.org//meeting/10568/ ___ devel maili

Schedule for Thursday's FESCo Meeting (2023-11-16)

2023-11-16 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
Following is the list of topics that will be discussed in the FESCo meeting Thursday at 17:00UTC in #fedora-meeting-2 on irc.libera.chat. To convert UTC to your local time, take a look at http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/UTCHowto or run: date -d '2023-11-16 17:00 UTC' Links to all issues to be

Re: Summary/Minutes from today's FESCo Meeting (2023-11-09)

2023-11-16 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Thu, Nov 16, 2023 at 01:28:31AM +0100, Kevin Kofler via devel wrote: > Neal Gompa wrote: > > * AGREED: Fedora explicitly declines to support the LSB 5.0 or > > earlier. Packagers will remove any information that implies > > otherwise. No implementation of an LSB package may expressly state > > o

Re: Summary/Minutes from today's FESCo Meeting (2023-11-09)

2023-11-16 Thread Fabio Valentini
On Thu, Nov 16, 2023 at 1:30 AM Kevin Kofler via devel wrote: > > Neal Gompa wrote: > > * AGREED: Fedora explicitly declines to support the LSB 5.0 or > > earlier. Packagers will remove any information that implies > > otherwise. No implementation of an LSB package may expressly state > > or offer

Re: SPDX Statistics - Kristallnacht edition

2023-11-16 Thread Michael J Gruber
Am Do., 16. Nov. 2023 um 01:27 Uhr schrieb Kevin Kofler via devel < devel@lists.fedoraproject.org>: > Miroslav Suchý wrote: > > Why Kristallnachte edition? On today's date at 1938, was i Kristallnacht > > (Night of Broken Glass) - a pogrom against Jews in Germany. It was first > > step where every

Re: F40 Change Proposal: Linker Error on Security Issues (System-Wide)

2023-11-16 Thread Nick Clifton
Hi Dominik, > Does the `--no-warn-rwx-segments` disable erroring out on both loadable > rwx segments and tls rwx segments? Yes. At the time I wrote the feature I did consider having separate options for the two tests, but it seemed like overkill, so I decided to go with just a single controlli