Re: The new version of Fedora Messaging Notifications will arrive this week

2023-04-24 Thread Otto Liljalaakso
Aurelien Bompard kirjoitti 24.4.2023 klo 16.04: Hi folks! The "FMN replacement" team has finished writing the new version of our notification system, and we are ready to deploy! You will thus still be able to access the current FMN, and it will keep running until F39. Due to the difference in

Re: F39 proposal: BiggerESP (Self-Contained Change proposal)

2023-04-24 Thread Peter Robinson
On Mon, Apr 24, 2023 at 5:15 PM Ben Cotton wrote: > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/BiggerESP > > This document represents a proposed Change. As part of the Changes > process, proposals are publicly announced in order to receive > community feedback. This proposal will only be implemented

Re: It’s time to transform the Fedora devel list into something new

2023-04-24 Thread Kevin Kofler via devel
Kamil Paral wrote: > I've spent more than a decade perfecting my email filters and I have a > setup that works for me very well. I dislike certain aspects of mailing > lists (cross-posting, top-posting, reply-to, etc, which just can't work > well when everyone has to be vigilant all the time to do

Re: F39 proposal: Increase vm.max_map_count value (System-Wide Change proposal)

2023-04-24 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, Ben Cotton said: > Steam Deck is shipping with a default of `2147483642` (MAX_INT - 5) up > from `65530` of Fedora; it makes sense to follow their lead and set > the same value. It doesn't necessarily make sense for a general-purpose OS to follow what is effectively an embedded

Re: F39 proposal: Increase vm.max_map_count value (System-Wide Change proposal)

2023-04-24 Thread Peter Boy
The increase step looks very massive. And I wonder why we should make such a change to make games of all things work out of the box. Are games the main use case of Fedora? Wouldn't it make more sense to create a game spin instead? After all, we already have a Lab. Or make a corresponding chang

Re: It’s time to transform the Fedora devel list into something new

2023-04-24 Thread Björn Persson
Kevin Fenzi wrote: > On Sun, Apr 23, 2023 at 11:21:58PM +0200, Björn Persson wrote: > > Kevin Fenzi wrote: > > > We could probibly come up with some > > > better way to start new topics/discussions > > > > Yes I think I can come up with a better way. Give each tag its own > > email address, li

Re: F39 proposal: Increase vm.max_map_count value (System-Wide Change proposal)

2023-04-24 Thread JT
Interesting that this came up. I was just talking to someone else about this the other day. From what I understand, that sysctl affects the max number of memory map areas a process can have, i.e. contiguous reserved memory. For a game that's great because it can pack more into memory and decreas

Hdr Hackathon: 24-26 April

2023-04-24 Thread Reon Beon via devel
https://wiki.gnome.org/Hackfests/ShellDisplayNext2023 ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of

Re: Firecracker microVM manager

2023-04-24 Thread Neal Gompa
On Mon, Apr 24, 2023 at 4:10 PM Demi Marie Obenour wrote: > > On 4/24/23 08:33, Neal Gompa wrote: > > On Mon, Apr 24, 2023 at 4:19 AM Peter Robinson wrote: > >> > There is no problem technically; the Copr repo[2] is building > Firecracker RPMs with musl. Maintainers of both Rust and mu

Re: Firecracker microVM manager

2023-04-24 Thread Demi Marie Obenour
On 4/24/23 08:33, Neal Gompa wrote: > On Mon, Apr 24, 2023 at 4:19 AM Peter Robinson wrote: >> There is no problem technically; the Copr repo[2] is building Firecracker RPMs with musl. Maintainers of both Rust and musl seemed to be against it in Fedora. From this thread: >>> Why d

Re: It’s time to transform the Fedora devel list into something new

2023-04-24 Thread Gabriel Ramirez via devel
On 4/23/23 18:32, Kevin Fenzi wrote: You can write the tag after the plus sign if that makes it easier to implement. Instead of"fedoraproject+newto...@discoursemail.com" the address could be"fedoraproject+de...@discoursemail.com" or maybe "fedoraproject+devel/newto...@discoursemail.com". Or som

Re: The new version of Fedora Messaging Notifications will arrive this week

2023-04-24 Thread Justin W. Flory (he/him)
Congratulations on the new release, and thanks team for the hard work on modernizing FMN over the past several months. On Mon, Apr 24, 2023 at 9:31 AM Aurelien Bompard wrote: > Hi folks! > > The "FMN replacement" team has finished writing the new version of our > notification system, and we are

Tuesday's FESCo Meeting *canceled* (2023-04-25)

2023-04-24 Thread Major Hayden via devel
There wasn't much in the FESCo queue this week, so April 25th's meeting is canceled. However, issue 2981 could use more feedback for the FESCo election interview questions. If FESCo members could take a moment to look over the questions and reply on the ticket[0], that would be helpful! I'll v

Re: It’s time to transform the Fedora devel list into something new

2023-04-24 Thread Kamil Paral
On Thu, Apr 20, 2023 at 11:21 PM Matthew Miller wrote: > I propose that we transition devel list, and eventually most of our > mailing lists, to Fedora Discussion (our Discourse-powered forum). > I've spent more than a decade perfecting my email filters and I have a setup that works for me very

Re: A new FMN will arrive this week

2023-04-24 Thread Mattia Verga via devel
Il 24/04/23 11:47, Aurelien Bompard ha scritto: > Hi folks! > > The FMN replacement team has finished writing the new version of our > notification system, and we are ready to deploy! We plan on deploying > the new version on https://notifications.fedoraproject.org this week, > we'll keep the old o

Re: F39 proposal: BiggerESP (Self-Contained Change proposal)

2023-04-24 Thread Daniel P . Berrangé
On Mon, Apr 24, 2023 at 12:15:12PM -0400, Ben Cotton wrote: > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/BiggerESP > > This document represents a proposed Change. As part of the Changes > process, proposals are publicly announced in order to receive > community feedback. This proposal will only be imp

Re: F39 proposal: Increase vm.max_map_count value (System-Wide Change proposal)

2023-04-24 Thread Kevin Fenzi
A few questions: * Could we perhaps try and get upstream to adjust this higher? * Is there any description/docs on what happens when this value is too low? do games error in a particular way? * Is there any adverse impact increasing this? More memory used? Thanks for putting this together. ke

Re: RFC: No koji builds during mass branching and updates-testing enablement

2023-04-24 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Sun, Apr 23, 2023 at 07:28:08AM +, Mattia Verga via devel wrote: > Isn't simpler to schedule: > > 1. lock down Koji in (stop accepting new builds, > possibly only for Rawhide) > 2. let Koji finish running builds (assuming there are none which > requires more than 24h) > 3. at check any st

F39 proposal: BiggerESP (Self-Contained Change proposal)

2023-04-24 Thread Ben Cotton
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/BiggerESP This document represents a proposed Change. As part of the Changes process, proposals are publicly announced in order to receive community feedback. This proposal will only be implemented if approved by the Fedora Engineering Steering Committee. ==

F39 proposal: Increase vm.max_map_count value (System-Wide Change proposal)

2023-04-24 Thread Ben Cotton
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/IncreaseVmMaxMapCount This document represents a proposed Change. As part of the Changes process, proposals are publicly announced in order to receive community feedback. This proposal will only be implemented if approved by the Fedora Engineering Steering Co

Fedora 38 Review in LUP #507

2023-04-24 Thread Luna Jernberg
https://linuxunplugged.com/507 Fedora 38 review of LUP from yesterday uploaded now ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproj

Re: It’s time to transform the Fedora devel list into something new

2023-04-24 Thread Stephen Smoogen
On Mon, 24 Apr 2023 at 09:38, Simo Sorce wrote: > On Sat, 2023-04-22 at 12:16 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > > On Sat, 2023-04-22 at 10:37 -0700, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > > > On Fri, Apr 21, 2023 at 02:30:45PM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > > > > On Fri, 2023-04-21 at 23:20 +0200, Florian Weimer wr

Re: It’s time to transform the Fedora devel list into something new

2023-04-24 Thread Ben Cotton
On Sat, Apr 22, 2023 at 1:24 AM Benson Muite wrote: > > Thanks, this is helpful. Can you make the scripts/programs you used for > these available to allow for a more detailed analysis? No, because I literally went to each page of the archives and copied the numbers into a spreadsheet. If you want

Re: It’s time to transform the Fedora devel list into something new

2023-04-24 Thread Simo Sorce
On Sat, 2023-04-22 at 12:16 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Sat, 2023-04-22 at 10:37 -0700, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > > On Fri, Apr 21, 2023 at 02:30:45PM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > > > On Fri, 2023-04-21 at 23:20 +0200, Florian Weimer wrote: > > > > > > > > > For lists that are active, the spl

The new version of Fedora Messaging Notifications will arrive this week

2023-04-24 Thread Aurelien Bompard
Hi folks! The "FMN replacement" team has finished writing the new version of our notification system, and we are ready to deploy! We plan on: - deploying the new version on https://notifications.fedoraproject.org this week, - keep the old one around but move it to https://apps.fp.o/notifications-

Re: It’s time to transform the Fedora devel list into something new

2023-04-24 Thread Simo Sorce
On Fri, 2023-04-21 at 15:39 -0500, Carl George wrote: > As Matthew stated, Ben has measured it and fewer people are > participating on the mailing list over time.  We are already leaving > out many contributors. This is an interpretation, but are we sure we are missing them because the mailing lis

Re: Firecracker microVM manager

2023-04-24 Thread Neal Gompa
On Mon, Apr 24, 2023 at 4:19 AM Peter Robinson wrote: > > > > There is no problem technically; the Copr repo[2] is building > > > Firecracker RPMs with musl. Maintainers of both Rust and musl seemed > > > to be against it in Fedora. From this thread: > > Why does Fedora not want to ship Firecrac

Re: It’s time to transform the Fedora devel list into something new

2023-04-24 Thread Kevin Kofler via devel
Matthew Miller wrote: > I propose that we transition devel list, and eventually most of our > mailing lists, to Fedora Discussion (our Discourse-powered forum). You are 19 days late for April Fools! Discourse is an absolute pain in the neck because it not only requires JavaScript to be able to p

Fedora rawhide compose report: 20230424.n.0 changes

2023-04-24 Thread Fedora Rawhide Report
OLD: Fedora-Rawhide-20230423.n.0 NEW: Fedora-Rawhide-20230424.n.0 = SUMMARY = Added images:1 Dropped images: 0 Added packages: 3 Dropped packages:0 Upgraded packages: 32 Downgraded packages: 0 Size of added packages: 183.38 KiB Size of dropped packages:0

Re: It’s time to transform the Fedora devel list into something new

2023-04-24 Thread Jun Aruga (he / him)
In my opinion, in this kind of big change, it's important for us to make things reversible, and to consider a possibility for us to go back. I think it's better for us to keep the infra of the mailing list for a while. When we migrate the devel@ to the discourse, we should still keep to manage oth

Re: It’s time to transform the Fedora devel list into something new

2023-04-24 Thread Vít Ondruch
Dne 24. 04. 23 v 2:32 Kevin Fenzi napsal(a): On Sun, Apr 23, 2023 at 11:21:58PM +0200, Björn Persson wrote: Kevin Fenzi wrote: We could probibly come up with some better way to start new topics/discussions Yes I think I can come up with a better way. Give each tag its own email address, like

Re: SPDX Statistics - ZX Spectrum edition

2023-04-24 Thread Miroslav Suchý
Dne 24. 04. 23 v 12:10 Felix Schwarz napsal(a): I have updated some of my packages, but they're still listed there. I've used "Update license tag to SPDX" in the changelog. similar for me. For example take python-pydyf: https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/python-pydyf/commits/rawhide After gi

Next Open NeuroFedora Meeting: 1300 UTC on Monday, 24 April (today)

2023-04-24 Thread Ankur Sinha
Hello everyone, Please join us at the next Open NeuroFedora team meeting on Monday 24th April at 1300UTC in #fedora-neuro on Matrix or IRC (Libera.chat). The meeting is a public meeting, and open for everyone to attend. You can join us over: Matrix: https://matrix.to/#/#neuro:fedoraproject.org I

Re: SPDX Statistics - ZX Spectrum edition

2023-04-24 Thread Miroslav Suchý
Dne 23. 04. 23 v 11:59 Mattia Verga via devel napsal(a): I have updated some of my packages, but they're still listed there. I've used "Update license tag to SPDX" in the changelog. Ag! I forgot to git-push. Fixed.  Sorry. Miroslav ___ devel mail

Re: SPDX Statistics - ZX Spectrum edition

2023-04-24 Thread Felix Schwarz
Am 23.04.23 um 11:59 schrieb Mattia Verga via devel: I have updated some of my packages, but they're still listed there. I've used "Update license tag to SPDX" in the changelog. similar for me. For example take python-pydyf: https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/python-pydyf/commits/rawhide Sho

A new FMN will arrive this week

2023-04-24 Thread Aurelien Bompard
Hi folks! The FMN replacement team has finished writing the new version of our notification system, and we are ready to deploy! We plan on deploying the new version on https://notifications.fedoraproject.org this week, we'll keep the old one around but move it to https://apps.fedoraproject.org/not

Re: SPDX Statistics - ZX Spectrum edition

2023-04-24 Thread Miroslav Suchý
Dne 23. 04. 23 v 13:29 Richard Shaw napsal(a): NEW: the package fedora-license-data now contains BNF grammar which you can use. It is available in `/usr/share/fedora-license-data/grammar.lark` You'll have to explain to me the significance of this. This is good starting point: http

Re: Self Introduction: Herald Yu

2023-04-24 Thread Benson Muite
On 4/24/23 09:42, Herald Yu wrote: > Hello everyone, I am Herald come from Shanghai, China. It's nice to meet you > in Fedora Devel Community. > > I am a Tech Writer who is passionate about open-source technology. I have > contributed to JuiceFS and I am willing to package and maintain this soft

Re: Firecracker microVM manager

2023-04-24 Thread Peter Robinson
> > There is no problem technically; the Copr repo[2] is building > > Firecracker RPMs with musl. Maintainers of both Rust and musl seemed > > to be against it in Fedora. From this thread: > Why does Fedora not want to ship Firecracker statically linked to musl? > That is the supported and tested