Re: Package owner required for ImageMagick

2021-10-14 Thread Peter Boy
> Am 15.10.2021 um 06:17 schrieb Neal Gompa : > > you'll probably want to look at is upgrading it to ImageMagick 7.x. > ImageMagick 6.x is not maintained upstream as far as I can tell. https://imagemagick.org/index.php: "We continue to maintain the legacy release of ImageMagick, version 6, at

Re: Fedora minimum hardware requirements

2021-10-14 Thread Benson Muite
On 10/15/21 5:13 AM, Michal Schorm wrote: Thinking about this more, I always get to a question: "Who are the consumers of that information and what do they actually use it for?" My personal idea is that the _ recommended _ requirements (of any OS) are seeked by people that 1/ are going to instal

Can we disable the Fedora CI tests on pull requests?

2021-10-14 Thread Tom Stellard
Hi, The Zuul CI for pull requests does everything that the Fedora CI does (scratch builds and tmt/standard tests) and more. Is there any reason to keep Fedora CI on pull requests? - Tom ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubs

Re: llvm 13.0.0-final ABI Change

2021-10-14 Thread Tom Stellard
On 10/14/21 4:23 PM, Tom Stellard wrote: On 10/12/21 7:23 AM, Tom Stellard wrote: On 10/1/21 12:57 AM, Kalev Lember wrote: On Fri, Oct 1, 2021 at 9:43 AM Richard W.M. Jones mailto:rjo...@redhat.com>> wrote:     On Thu, Sep 30, 2021 at 08:03:07PM -0700, Tom Stellard wrote: > Hi, >    

Re: Package owner required for ImageMagick

2021-10-14 Thread Neal Gompa
On Thu, Oct 14, 2021 at 6:27 PM Matthew Miller wrote: > > On Wed, Oct 13, 2021 at 08:13:55AM -0400, Troy Curtis Jr wrote: > > > I will take that package because it is used by Fedora Design team for > > > conversion and some applications depend on it. > > Luya, if you'd also like some help, I'd be

Re: final link failed: memory exhausted on armv7l

2021-10-14 Thread Jeff Law
On 10/13/2021 8:51 AM, Björn 'besser82' Esser wrote: Am Mittwoch, dem 13.10.2021 um 15:44 +0200 schrieb Iñaki Ucar: Hi, RStudio is failing consistently on armv7l on F35 [1, 2] and rawhide [3, 4] with this message (memory exhausted). The same build on the same machine (CPU and RAM) succeeds on

Re: final link failed: memory exhausted on armv7l

2021-10-14 Thread Jeff Law
On 10/13/2021 10:06 AM, Björn 'besser82' Esser wrote: Building with lto disabled is a bad idea, as Fedora intentionally enabled lto by default. Yes, but there is nothing inherently wrong with not using LTO.  Many packages opt-out for various reasons. What you describe as lto requires a lot

Re: final link failed: memory exhausted on armv7l

2021-10-14 Thread Jeff Law
On 10/13/2021 10:37 AM, Michael Catanzaro wrote: On Wed, Oct 13 2021 at 06:06:50 PM +0200, Björn 'besser82' Esser wrote: What you describe as lto requires a lot of memory is caused by building lto along with non-lto in the same object file requires significantly more memory.  For that reason

Re: jq issue with integer handling logic

2021-10-14 Thread Neal Gompa
On Thu, Oct 14, 2021 at 7:38 PM Davide Cavalca wrote: > > On Wed, 2021-10-13 at 23:00 +, Davide Cavalca via devel wrote: > > On Wed, 2021-10-13 at 18:53 -0400, Neal Gompa wrote: > > > > > > I can pick this up as a provenpackager tomorrow if this has been > > > requested and accepted as an FE f

Re: Fedora minimum hardware requirements

2021-10-14 Thread Michal Schorm
Thinking about this more, I always get to a question: "Who are the consumers of that information and what do they actually use it for?" My personal idea is that the _ recommended _ requirements (of any OS) are seeked by people that 1/ are going to install the system on some hardware on which that

Re: jq issue with integer handling logic

2021-10-14 Thread Davide Cavalca via devel
On Wed, 2021-10-13 at 23:00 +, Davide Cavalca via devel wrote: > On Wed, 2021-10-13 at 18:53 -0400, Neal Gompa wrote: > > > > I can pick this up as a provenpackager tomorrow if this has been > > requested and accepted as an FE for F35 and the maintainers haven't > > done anything yet. > > Tha

Re: llvm 13.0.0-final ABI Change

2021-10-14 Thread Tom Stellard
On 10/12/21 7:23 AM, Tom Stellard wrote: On 10/1/21 12:57 AM, Kalev Lember wrote: On Fri, Oct 1, 2021 at 9:43 AM Richard W.M. Jones mailto:rjo...@redhat.com>> wrote:     On Thu, Sep 30, 2021 at 08:03:07PM -0700, Tom Stellard wrote: > Hi, > > I'm going to start packaging LLVM 13.0

License correction: python-pdfminer is “MIT and Public Domain and APAFML and BSD”

2021-10-14 Thread Benjamin Beasley
The License field for python-pdfminer has been corrected from “MIT” to “MIT and Public Domain and APAFML and BSD”. Its -doc subpackage remains “MIT”. ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@list

Self Introduction: Peter Kotvan

2021-10-14 Thread Peter Kotvan
Hello everybody! I'm Peter and I use Linux for quite some time considering myself an enthusiast. I mainly use Fedora and Arch linux, both on a daily basis but I have experience with plenty of other distributions also. The main reason I'm writing this email is that I miss a retired package ( scrot

Re: Fedora minimum hardware requirements

2021-10-14 Thread Peter Boy
> Am 14.10.2021 um 17:24 schrieb Michal Schorm : > > Sigh, it is useless to search for Fedora documentation on google ... > anything but _current_ Docs will be found. Welcome to the club. This has been a nuisance for a long time. I have made several attempts, but so far without response. >

Re: Package owner required for ImageMagick

2021-10-14 Thread Matthew Miller
On Wed, Oct 13, 2021 at 08:13:55AM -0400, Troy Curtis Jr wrote: > > I will take that package because it is used by Fedora Design team for > > conversion and some applications depend on it. > Luya, if you'd also like some help, I'd be happy to co-maintain this with > you. I find myself using it in v

Re: Fedora minimum hardware requirements

2021-10-14 Thread Matthew Miller
On Thu, Oct 14, 2021 at 06:14:44PM -0400, Matthew Miller wrote: > I know "feels responsive" is pretty subjective, so, maybe "switching tabs > should be < 0.1 second" (from > https://www.nngroup.com/articles/response-times-3-important-limits/). Or, perhaps: better than some threshold for Phoronix T

Re: Fedora minimum hardware requirements

2021-10-14 Thread Matthew Miller
On Thu, Oct 14, 2021 at 08:09:45PM +, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > I think that those numbers (20GB+2GB) are quite reasonable for the > stated purpose of "install and run successfully". I think that people > know and understand that additional resources are required for > additional thi

Re: bodhi updates skipping updates-testing entirely

2021-10-14 Thread Dan Čermák
Hi Fabio, Fabio Valentini writes: > So, I wonder, should updates always be allowed to skip being in the > "updates-testing" repository entirely? There's probably good reasons > for it sometimes (for example, time-critical security updates, i.e. > firefox, kernel, etc.), but in the general case,

Re: Fedora minimum hardware requirements

2021-10-14 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Wed, Oct 13, 2021 at 12:41:17PM -0400, Chris Murphy wrote: > Only Fedora Workstation edition explicitly states minimum hardware > requirements: "Fedora requires a minimum of 20GB disk, 2GB RAM, to > install and run successfully. Double those amounts is recommended." > https://getfedora.org/en/wo

Re: OCaml packages failing in ELN

2021-10-14 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Thu, Oct 14, 2021 at 07:47:16AM -0400, Stephen Gallagher wrote: > On Thu, Oct 14, 2021 at 7:44 AM Richard W.M. Jones wrote: > ... > > So say there's this (real) dependency chain: > > > > ocaml -> ocaml-labltk -> ocaml-findlib -> ocaml-dune > > > > We set off building (eg) ocaml-findlib.ELN befo

Fedora-IoT-35-20211014.0 compose check report

2021-10-14 Thread Fedora compose checker
No missing expected images. Failed openQA tests: 2/15 (aarch64) New failures (same test not failed in Fedora-IoT-35-20211013.0): ID: 1028447 Test: aarch64 IoT-dvd_ostree-iso release_identification@uefi URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/1028447 Old failures (same test failed in Fed

cmake-3.22.0-rc1 hits Rawhide

2021-10-14 Thread Björn 'besser82' Esser
Hi, I just wanted to inform you, that cmake-3.22.0-rc1 [1] will hit Rawhide within about the next hour. The upstream ChangeLog [2] doesn't show any obvious breaking changes. If problems arise with your packages, feel free to file bugs on RHBZ. Thanks, Björn [1] https://koji.fedoraproject.org

Fedora-35-20211014.n.0 compose check report

2021-10-14 Thread Fedora compose checker
No missing expected images. Failed openQA tests: 6/204 (x86_64), 5/141 (aarch64) New failures (same test not failed in Fedora-35-20211013.n.0): ID: 1027965 Test: x86_64 KDE-live-iso desktop_login URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/1027965 ID: 1028051 Test: aarch64 Server-dvd-iso

Re: Fedora minimum hardware requirements

2021-10-14 Thread Neal Gompa
On Thu, Oct 14, 2021 at 11:25 AM Michal Schorm wrote: > > Sigh, it is useless to search for Fedora documentation on google ... > anything but _current_ Docs will be found. > > > Only Fedora Workstation edition explicitly states minimum hardware > > requirements: "Fedora requires a minimum of 20GB

Re: Fedora minimum hardware requirements

2021-10-14 Thread Michal Schorm
Sigh, it is useless to search for Fedora documentation on google ... anything but _current_ Docs will be found. > Only Fedora Workstation edition explicitly states minimum hardware > requirements: "Fedora requires a minimum of 20GB disk, 2GB RAM, to > install and run successfully. Double those amo

Fedora-IoT-36-20211014.0 compose check report

2021-10-14 Thread Fedora compose checker
Missing expected images: Iot dvd aarch64 Iot dvd x86_64 Failed openQA tests: 2/15 (aarch64), 1/16 (x86_64) New failures (same test not failed in Fedora-IoT-36-20211013.0): ID: 1028239 Test: aarch64 IoT-dvd_ostree-iso iot_rpmostree_overlay@uefi URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/102

Re: libcurl-minimal

2021-10-14 Thread Kamil Dudka
On Thursday, October 14, 2021 3:27:03 PM CEST Steve Grubb wrote: > Hello, > > On Thursday, October 14, 2021 6:51:54 AM EDT Kamil Dudka wrote: > > > what is the plan with introduction of libcurl-minimal in Fedora? > > > > I proposed to use libcurl-minimal and curl-minimal in minimal base images >

Fedora 35 compose report: 20211014.n.0 changes

2021-10-14 Thread Fedora Rawhide Report
OLD: Fedora-35-20211013.n.0 NEW: Fedora-35-20211014.n.0 = SUMMARY = Added images:0 Dropped images: 0 Added packages: 0 Dropped packages:0 Upgraded packages: 6 Downgraded packages: 0 Size of added packages: 0 B Size of dropped packages:0 B Size of upgraded

Fedora-Rawhide-20211014.n.0 compose check report

2021-10-14 Thread Fedora compose checker
Missing expected images: Xfce raw-xz armhfp Compose FAILS proposed Rawhide gating check! 4 of 43 required tests failed, 4 results missing openQA tests matching unsatisfied gating requirements shown with **GATING** below Failed openQA tests: 13/206 (x86_64), 9/141 (aarch64) New failures (same t

Re: Woah! [Thanks, Nest sponsors]

2021-10-14 Thread Mikel Olasagasti
I was expecting some nice stickers too, but after your email, I was intrigued. I just opened the package and woah! Thanks everyone that made it possible! Mikel Hau idatzi du Michael J Gruber (m...@fedoraproject.org) erabiltzaileak (2021 urr. 12, ar. (15:29)): > > Today that special package for N

Re: libcurl-minimal

2021-10-14 Thread Steve Grubb
Hello, On Thursday, October 14, 2021 6:51:54 AM EDT Kamil Dudka wrote: > > what is the plan with introduction of libcurl-minimal in Fedora? > > I proposed to use libcurl-minimal and curl-minimal in minimal base images > half a year ago but there has been no reply so far: > > https://pagure.i

Schedule for Thursday's FPC Meeting (2021-10-14 16:00 UTC)

2021-10-14 Thread James Antill
 Following is the list of topics that will be discussed in the FPC meeting Thursday at 2021-10-14 16:00 UTC in #fedora-meeting-1 on irc.libera.chat.  Local time information (via. uitime): = Day: Thursday == 2021-10-14 09:00 PDT US/Pacific 2021-10-14 12

Re: F36 Change: Make Authselect Mandatory (System-Wide Change proposal)

2021-10-14 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Thu, Oct 14 2021 at 01:28:23 PM +0200, Pavel Březina wrote: Do you have any proposals on the name? To me, this change means that if you don't use authselect, you are basically on your own and I'd like to stress this as much as possible. Enforce Authselect Configuration Consistency? _

Re: OCaml packages failing in ELN

2021-10-14 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Thu, 14 Oct 2021 at 07:44, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: > > On Mon, Oct 11, 2021 at 03:53:09PM -0600, Jerry James wrote: > > The ELN package builds for the recent OCaml 4.13 update have mostly > > been failing, over and over. I finally took a look at some today; > > they're going to keep failing

Fedora rawhide compose report: 20211014.n.0 changes

2021-10-14 Thread Fedora Rawhide Report
OLD: Fedora-Rawhide-20211013.n.0 NEW: Fedora-Rawhide-20211014.n.0 = SUMMARY = Added images:0 Dropped images: 2 Added packages: 4 Dropped packages:0 Upgraded packages: 117 Downgraded packages: 0 Size of added packages: 198.70 MiB Size of dropped packages:0

Re: F36 Change: Make Authselect Mandatorry (System-Wide Change proposal)

2021-10-14 Thread Hans de Goede
Hi Pavel, On 10/14/21 12:57 PM, Pavel Březina wrote: > On 10/13/21 3:17 PM, Michael Catanzaro wrote: >> On Wed, Oct 13 2021 at 10:22:14 AM +0200, Hans de Goede >> wrote: >>> Making what IMHO is a poor default of always using sssd everywhere >>> hardcoded even deeper into Fedora seems like a bad

Re: OCaml packages failing in ELN

2021-10-14 Thread Stephen Gallagher
On Thu, Oct 14, 2021 at 7:44 AM Richard W.M. Jones wrote: ... > So say there's this (real) dependency chain: > > ocaml -> ocaml-labltk -> ocaml-findlib -> ocaml-dune > > We set off building (eg) ocaml-findlib.ELN before ocaml-labtk.ELN. > However it's being built against the Rawhide version of oca

Re: OCaml packages failing in ELN

2021-10-14 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Mon, Oct 11, 2021 at 03:53:09PM -0600, Jerry James wrote: > The ELN package builds for the recent OCaml 4.13 update have mostly > been failing, over and over. I finally took a look at some today; > they're going to keep failing until a human intervenes. Rebuilding > against Rawhide packages wa

Re: F36 Change: Make Authselect Mandatory (System-Wide Change proposal)

2021-10-14 Thread Pavel Březina
On 10/12/21 7:12 PM, Michael Catanzaro wrote: This change is well-considered and includes detailed reasoning to support it. Looks good to me. I think the change proposal should be renamed, though, since authselect would clearly not *actually* be mandatory. Of course you'll risk severe break

Re: F36 Change: Make Authselect Mandatory (System-Wide Change proposal)

2021-10-14 Thread Pavel Březina
On 10/12/21 5:45 PM, Neal Gompa wrote: On Tue, Oct 12, 2021 at 11:33 AM Ben Cotton wrote: === 1. It is difficult to deliver updates to configurations === FIles /etc/nsswitch.conf and /etc/pam.d/* are distributed as %config(noreplace) which means that they are configuration files and are only i

Re: F36 Change: Make Authselect Mandatorry (System-Wide Change proposal)

2021-10-14 Thread Pavel Březina
On 10/13/21 3:17 PM, Michael Catanzaro wrote: On Wed, Oct 13 2021 at 10:22:14 AM +0200, Hans de Goede wrote: Making what IMHO is a poor default of always using sssd everywhere hardcoded even deeper into Fedora seems like a bad idea to me. I think we can fix this at the same time. Make authsel

Re: libcurl-minimal

2021-10-14 Thread Kamil Dudka
Hi Zbyszek, On Thursday, October 14, 2021 11:52:59 AM CEST Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > Hi Kamil and everyone, > > what is the plan with introduction of libcurl-minimal in Fedora? I proposed to use libcurl-minimal and curl-minimal in minimal base images half a year ago but there has bee

libcurl-minimal

2021-10-14 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
Hi Kamil and everyone, what is the plan with introduction of libcurl-minimal in Fedora? IIUC, libcurl and libcurl-minimal both have the same Provides, so libcurl-minimal can be used to satisfy automatically generated dependencies: $ dnf repoquery --provides libcurl-minimal libcurl = 7.78.0

Re: Woah! [Thanks, Nest sponsors]

2021-10-14 Thread Luna Jernberg
Got mine now, so a big thanks for me too :) On Thu, Oct 14, 2021 at 10:35 AM Luna Jernberg wrote: > Mine is now on a Fedex truck from the airport here in Stockholm :) > So thanks Fedora and Red Hat :) looking forward to see what it all is, > when i get it later today > > On Wed, Oct 13, 2021 at

Fedora-Cloud-34-20211014.0 compose check report

2021-10-14 Thread Fedora compose checker
No missing expected images. Soft failed openQA tests: 1/8 (x86_64), 1/8 (aarch64) (Tests completed, but using a workaround for a known bug) Old soft failures (same test soft failed in Fedora-Cloud-34-20211013.0): ID: 1027310 Test: x86_64 Cloud_Base-qcow2-qcow2 cloud_autocloud URL: https://op

Re: Woah! [Thanks, Nest sponsors]

2021-10-14 Thread Luna Jernberg
Mine is now on a Fedex truck from the airport here in Stockholm :) So thanks Fedora and Red Hat :) looking forward to see what it all is, when i get it later today On Wed, Oct 13, 2021 at 3:00 PM Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski < domi...@greysector.net> wrote: > On Wednesday, 13 October 2021 at 14

Fedora-Cloud-33-20211014.0 compose check report

2021-10-14 Thread Fedora compose checker
No missing expected images. Soft failed openQA tests: 1/8 (x86_64), 1/8 (aarch64) (Tests completed, but using a workaround for a known bug) Old soft failures (same test soft failed in Fedora-Cloud-33-20211013.0): ID: 1027294 Test: x86_64 Cloud_Base-qcow2-qcow2 cloud_autocloud URL: https://op