Re: %bcond_with/%bcond_without

2020-04-03 Thread Sérgio Basto
On Fri, 2020-04-03 at 20:36 +, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > 1. The logic is reversed: when I see "with" I think something is > enabled, >when I see "without" I think something is disabled. But it's > actually >the other way around here, which I find very confusing and often > ge

Re: %bcond_with/%bcond_without

2020-04-03 Thread Christopher Engelhard
On 03.04.20 22:36, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > So... could we please get a way to express this in rpm with a sane syntax: > > %define_cond docs 0%{?fedora} > 0 Oh please, yes. Christopher ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org

Re: @core install picking up desktop packages

2020-04-03 Thread Jan Pazdziora
On Fri, Apr 03, 2020 at 03:12:35PM +0200, Petr Pisar wrote: > > Maybe libsecret spec could provide an empty libsecret-never-fail subpackage > that would hard-require a libsecret server and the applications like geary > would > require that subpackage. (Alternatively libsecret-devel could provide

Re: Non-responsive maintainer: kyrofa

2020-04-03 Thread Michel Alexandre Salim
Hi Kyle, Great to hear, thanks. If you'd like a comaintainer, please add me - it's blocking one of our projects at work. Thanks, Michel Apr 3, 2020 14:06:52 Kyle Fazzari : > Hello Michel, > > Don't worry, I'm alive, I've just been slammed the last few weeks. I'll > look into EPEL 8 soon. >

[Test-Announce] 2020-04-06 @ 16:00 UTC - Fedora 32 Blocker Review Meeting

2020-04-03 Thread Adam Williamson
# F32 Blocker Review meeting # Date: 2020-04-06 # Time: 16:00 UTC # Location: #fedora-blocker-review on irc.freenode.net Hi folks! We have 4 proposed Final blockers and 1 proposed Final freeze exception to review, so let's have a Fedora 32 blocker review meeting on Monday! If you have time this w

[Test-Announce] Proposal to CANCEL: 2020-04-06 Fedora QA Meeting

2020-04-03 Thread Adam Williamson
Hi folks! I'm proposing we cancel the QA meeting for Monday. We met last week and I don't think we have any urgent business this week. There will be a blocker review meeting. If you're aware of anything important we have to discuss this week, please do reply to this mail and we can go ahead and ru

Re: CPE Git Forge Decision

2020-04-03 Thread Randy Barlow
On 4/3/20 4:41 PM, Leigh Griffin wrote: This is how a specific flavour of software development works centered on a singular product, with a shared vision. The CPE relationship with stakeholders is unique, it's clear the visions are not aligned across all bodies (and we do not expect it to be) a

Re: koji wait-repo (newRepo) is really taking a long time

2020-04-03 Thread Miro Hrončok
On 03. 04. 20 13:03, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: I've been waiting on: $ koji wait-repo f33-build-side-20855 --build=ocaml-lacaml-9.3.2-17.fc33 for hours now. Seems like newRepo generation is again taking a very long time? Also it'd be nice if this command didn't time out after 2 hours (seems

rubygem-asciidoctor Fedora 31 update

2020-04-03 Thread Ivan Chavero
Hello, Are there any plans to upgrade the spec file of rubygem-asciidoctor for Fedora 31 to the 2.0.10 version? Thanks! ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Co

Re: Orphaning owncloud and nextcloud

2020-04-03 Thread Ivan Chavero
You have to create a database and a user with permissions in that database for nextcloud. Verify that the web server is running Then go to http:///nextcloud, you will see the installer webpage, select mysql as the database and set the user and the database you previously created and it will perform

Re: Change the way to acquire the keys for package upgrades [changed]

2020-04-03 Thread Paul Dufresne via devel
Le 20-04-02 à 13 h 30, Samuel Sieb a écrit : The problem is that in the past there have been some packages that have had to be updated first to successfully do the upgrade.  As Kamil said, the list can change at any time.  The easiest way to ensure the upgrade works is to make sure that your c

Re: Fedora 32 Final blocker bug email #1

2020-04-03 Thread Jerry James
On Fri, Apr 3, 2020 at 3:31 PM Ben Cotton wrote: > 1. dnf — https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1768206 — NEW > DNF prompts for GPG key import for "repo_gpgcheck=1"-repositories > despite "rpm --import"-ing the keys first > > DNF has a separate database of GPG keys, which leads to unexpect

Fedora 32 Final blocker bug email #1

2020-04-03 Thread Ben Cotton
Oh gosh, it's almost Final freeze time! (7 April) Action summary Accepted blockers - 1. dnf — DNF prompts for GPG key import for "repo_gpgcheck=1"-repositories despite "rpm --import"-ing the keys first — NEW ACTION: "everyone" to come to agreement on a solutio

Re: Change the way to acquire the keys for package upgrades [changed]

2020-04-03 Thread Chris Murphy
On Fri, Apr 3, 2020 at 10:41 AM Samuel Sieb wrote: > > On 4/3/20 6:09 AM, Richard Hughes wrote: > > On Fri, 3 Apr 2020 at 07:48, Samuel Sieb wrote: > >> The problem is that in the past there have been some packages that have > >> had to be updated first to successfully do the upgrade. > > > > So

Re: %bcond_with/%bcond_without

2020-04-03 Thread Miro Hrončok
On 03. 04. 20 22:36, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: So... could we please get a way to express this in rpm with a sane syntax: %define_cond docs 0%{?fedora} > 0 (Naming and details of syntax are just examples, but the important parts are: one line, name before value, positive logic). Yes

Re: CPE Git Forge Decision

2020-04-03 Thread Leigh Griffin
On Fri, Apr 3, 2020, 20:26 Randy Barlow wrote: > On 4/3/20 3:08 PM, Leigh Griffin wrote: > > It may have caught that for sure but it would have opened a lot more > > problems as stakeholders try to counter each others requirements with > > new more specific requirements to influence the decision.

%bcond_with/%bcond_without

2020-04-03 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Fri, Apr 03, 2020 at 02:23:12PM -0400, Stephen Gallagher wrote: > Fabio Valenti made this comment in the FESCo ticket[1]. > > "Side note: I think more people would be amenable to including > "conditionals" into their packages if they weren't only shown off as > `%if eln this else that`. I think

Re: Take over maintenance of Hugo package

2020-04-03 Thread Robert-André Mauchin
On Wednesday, 1 April 2020 18:13:51 CEST W. Michael Petullo wrote: > I would like to co-maintain or take over the maintenance of our Hugo > package. The package presently does not build, and thus it is at risk > of being orphaned: > > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1799514 > > -- >

Re: CPE Git Forge Decision

2020-04-03 Thread Neal Gompa
On Fri, Apr 3, 2020 at 3:57 PM Adam Williamson wrote: > > On Fri, 2020-04-03 at 14:46 -0500, Michael Catanzaro wrote: > > On Fri, Apr 3, 2020 at 12:10 pm, Adam Williamson > > wrote: > > > Another is requirement 19 ("As a Project > > contributor...I want to be able to use kanban boards...So that

Re: CPE Git Forge Decision

2020-04-03 Thread Adam Williamson
On Fri, 2020-04-03 at 14:46 -0500, Michael Catanzaro wrote: > On Fri, Apr 3, 2020 at 12:10 pm, Adam Williamson > wrote: > > I assume Gitlab likes money. :P > > $100/month per user for Ultimate (the only offering that meets the > "requirements")... 2339 packages in FAS... so $233900 * 12 works o

Re: CPE Git Forge Decision

2020-04-03 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Fri, Apr 03, 2020 at 01:53:18PM -0400, Neal Gompa wrote: > On Fri, Apr 3, 2020 at 1:28 PM Kevin Fenzi wrote: > > > > On Fri, Apr 03, 2020 at 09:55:48AM +0200, Clement Verna wrote: > > > > ...snip... > > > > (side note: can people please try and trim their replies to this list? > > I know gmail

Re: CPE Git Forge Decision

2020-04-03 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Fri, Apr 3, 2020 at 2:46 pm, Michael Catanzaro wrote: packages Sorry, I meant: packagers Probably only packagers need access to dist-git, but we have other Fedora teams besides packagers that will need to use the instance too. So that's a minimum ___

Re: CPE Git Forge Decision

2020-04-03 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Fri, Apr 3, 2020 at 12:10 pm, Adam Williamson wrote: I assume Gitlab likes money. :P $100/month per user for Ultimate (the only offering that meets the "requirements")... 2339 packages in FAS... so $233900 * 12 works out to roughly $3 million per year just for Fedora, assuming we never le

Re: CPE Git Forge Decision

2020-04-03 Thread Adam Williamson
On Fri, 2020-04-03 at 14:41 -0500, Chris Adams wrote: > Once upon a time, Kevin Fenzi said: > > Fedora Infrastructure has always been open and welcoming of community > > work. The VAST majority of folks who have worked on it (at least the > > operations side) in the past or are now, started out in

Non-responsive maintainer: ndim

2020-04-03 Thread Michel Alexandre Salim
Hi, Does anyone know how to contact Hans Ulrich Niedermann? He seems to have log in last on February 4th. I've opened a bug asking for either an EPEL 8 branch for terminus-fonts, or to be added as an admin or committer, on February 24th: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=18067

Re: CPE Git Forge Decision

2020-04-03 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, Kevin Fenzi said: > Fedora Infrastructure has always been open and welcoming of community > work. The VAST majority of folks who have worked on it (at least the > operations side) in the past or are now, started out in the community > and eventually ended up doing it full time.

FedoraRespin-31-updates-20200402.0 compose check report

2020-04-03 Thread Fedora compose checker
No missing expected images. Failed openQA tests: 3/18 (x86_64) ID: 566237 Test: x86_64 KDE-live-iso release_identification URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/566237 ID: 566238 Test: x86_64 KDE-live-iso apps_startstop URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/566238 ID: 566251

Non-responsive maintainer: kyrofa

2020-04-03 Thread Michel Alexandre Salim
Hi, Does anyone know how to contact Kyle Fazzari? He seems to have log in last on October 31st last year, and last updated his squashfuse package in 2018. I've opened a bug asking for either an EPEL 8 branch for squashfuse, or to be added as an admin or committer, on March 2nd: https://b

Re: CPE Git Forge Decision

2020-04-03 Thread Randy Barlow
On 4/3/20 3:08 PM, Leigh Griffin wrote: It may have caught that for sure but it would have opened a lot more problems as stakeholders try to counter each others requirements with new more specific requirements to influence the decision. This is how software development is *supposed* to work. I

Re: CPE Git Forge Decision

2020-04-03 Thread Adam Williamson
On Fri, 2020-04-03 at 19:28 +0100, Leigh Griffin wrote: > On Fri, Apr 3, 2020, 18:21 Adam Williamson > wrote: > > > On Fri, 2020-04-03 at 13:04 -0400, Ben Cotton wrote: > > > > > One thing I'll note here: this is *exactly* the kind of thing that > > > > would have come to light very quickly if t

Re: CPE Git Forge Decision

2020-04-03 Thread Jeremy Cline
Hi Leigh, On Fri, 2020-04-03 at 17:00 +0100, Leigh Griffin wrote: > > > On Fri, Apr 3, 2020 at 4:20 PM Jeremy Cline > wrote: > > On Fri, 2020-04-03 at 05:38 -0400, Neal Gompa wrote: > > > On Fri, Apr 3, 2020 at 5:29 AM Michal Konecny < > > mkone...@redhat.com> > > > wrote: > > > > On 03/04/2020

Re: CPE Git Forge Decision

2020-04-03 Thread Adam Williamson
On Fri, 2020-04-03 at 19:30 +0100, Leigh Griffin wrote: > On Fri, Apr 3, 2020, 18:22 Adam Williamson > wrote: > > > On Fri, 2020-04-03 at 13:18 -0400, Matthew Miller wrote: > > > On Fri, Apr 03, 2020 at 01:04:33PM -0400, Ben Cotton wrote: > > > > For what it's worth, when I sent the list I includ

Re: CPE Git Forge Decision

2020-04-03 Thread Adam Williamson
On Fri, 2020-04-03 at 20:12 +0200, Markus Larsson wrote: > > On 3 April 2020 19:18:57 CEST, Matthew Miller > wrote: > > On Fri, Apr 03, 2020 at 01:04:33PM -0400, Ben Cotton wrote: > > > For what it's worth, when I sent the list I included a reminder that > > > FOSS is always our strong preferenc

Re: CPE Git Forge Decision

2020-04-03 Thread Leigh Griffin
On Fri, Apr 3, 2020, 17:42 Adam Williamson wrote: > On Fri, 2020-04-03 at 12:07 -0400, Ben Cotton wrote: > > On Fri, Apr 3, 2020 at 11:59 AM Leigh Griffin > wrote: > > > > Can we *please* see the final actual definitely official Fedora list, > > > > then? If this is supposed to be an open proces

Re: Fedora 33 System-Wide Change Proposal: ELN Buildroot and Compose V3

2020-04-03 Thread Miro Hrončok
On 03. 04. 20 20:23, Stephen Gallagher wrote: Fabio Valenti made this comment in the FESCo ticket[1]. "Side note: I think more people would be amenable to including "conditionals" into their packages if they weren't only shown off as `%if eln this else that`. I think there's more value in doing

Fedora rawhide compose report: 20200403.n.0 changes

2020-04-03 Thread Fedora Rawhide Report
OLD: Fedora-Rawhide-20200402.n.0 NEW: Fedora-Rawhide-20200403.n.0 = SUMMARY = Added images:2 Dropped images: 0 Added packages: 6 Dropped packages:3 Upgraded packages: 214 Downgraded packages: 95 Size of added packages: 41.96 MiB Size of dropped packages

Re: Fedora 33 System-Wide Change Proposal: ELN Buildroot and Compose V3

2020-04-03 Thread Aleksandra Fedorova
On Fri, Apr 3, 2020 at 8:23 PM Stephen Gallagher wrote: > > On Fri, Apr 3, 2020 at 1:27 PM Matthew Miller > wrote: > > > > On Thu, Apr 02, 2020 at 10:32:31PM +0200, Nicolas Mailhot via devel wrote: > > > Would it be possible to formalize the kind of spec processing ELN wants > > > available in a

Re: CPE Git Forge Decision

2020-04-03 Thread Randy Barlow
On 4/3/20 1:53 PM, Neal Gompa wrote: Honestly, the main app I have trouble seeing a broader community for is Bodhi. It*could* be done, but I'd have to sit down and do a fair bit of work to figure out what parts are "Fedora-only" verses "Fedora-favored". It speaks volumes that even*Red Hat* does

Re: CPE Git Forge Decision

2020-04-03 Thread Leigh Griffin
On Fri, Apr 3, 2020, 18:22 Adam Williamson wrote: > On Fri, 2020-04-03 at 13:18 -0400, Matthew Miller wrote: > > On Fri, Apr 03, 2020 at 01:04:33PM -0400, Ben Cotton wrote: > > > For what it's worth, when I sent the list I included a reminder that > > > FOSS is always our strong preference where

Re: CPE Git Forge Decision

2020-04-03 Thread Leigh Griffin
On Fri, Apr 3, 2020, 18:21 Adam Williamson wrote: > On Fri, 2020-04-03 at 13:04 -0400, Ben Cotton wrote: > > > One thing I'll note here: this is *exactly* the kind of thing that > > > would have come to light very quickly if the open process which was > > > committed to at the start had actually

Re: Fedora 33 System-Wide Change Proposal: ELN Buildroot and Compose V3

2020-04-03 Thread Stephen Gallagher
On Fri, Apr 3, 2020 at 1:27 PM Matthew Miller wrote: > > On Thu, Apr 02, 2020 at 10:32:31PM +0200, Nicolas Mailhot via devel wrote: > > Would it be possible to formalize the kind of spec processing ELN wants > > available in a set of generic operations with generic arguments (or > > control variab

Re: CPE Git Forge Decision

2020-04-03 Thread Markus Larsson
On 3 April 2020 19:18:57 CEST, Matthew Miller wrote: >On Fri, Apr 03, 2020 at 01:04:33PM -0400, Ben Cotton wrote: >> For what it's worth, when I sent the list I included a reminder that >> FOSS is always our strong preference where viable. It was a mistake to >> not leave that in as a user story

Re: How to enable package gating

2020-04-03 Thread Martin Kolman
- Original Message - > From: "Miro Hrončok" > To: "Development discussions related to Fedora" > , "Lukas Holecek" > > Sent: Friday, April 3, 2020 3:25:16 PM > Subject: Re: How to enable package gating > > On 03. 04. 20 14:49, Lukas Holecek wrote: > > Hi Vojtěch, > > > > The issue is

Re: CPE Git Forge Decision

2020-04-03 Thread Neal Gompa
On Fri, Apr 3, 2020 at 1:28 PM Kevin Fenzi wrote: > > On Fri, Apr 03, 2020 at 09:55:48AM +0200, Clement Verna wrote: > > ...snip... > > (side note: can people please try and trim their replies to this list? > I know gmail makes that hard, but it's anoying to read a thread where > you have to keep

Fedora 32 compose report: 20200403.n.0 changes

2020-04-03 Thread Fedora Branched Report
OLD: Fedora-32-20200402.n.0 NEW: Fedora-32-20200403.n.0 = SUMMARY = Added images:1 Dropped images: 0 Added packages: 1 Dropped packages:0 Upgraded packages: 98 Downgraded packages: 0 Size of added packages: 376.48 KiB Size of dropped packages:0 B Size of

Re: Fedora 33 System-Wide Change proposal: Removal of the glibc-headers package

2020-04-03 Thread Jakub Jelinek
On Fri, Apr 03, 2020 at 07:36:34PM +0200, Florian Weimer wrote: > * Neal Gompa: > > > Maybe this is a dumb question, but why do we not want to ship this? I > > can't seem to figure out why we keep trying to block it, what harm it > > causes to ship it, and so on... > > We haven't been able to shi

Re: Fedora 33 System-Wide Change proposal: Removal of the glibc-headers package

2020-04-03 Thread Florian Weimer
* Neal Gompa: > Maybe this is a dumb question, but why do we not want to ship this? I > can't seem to figure out why we keep trying to block it, what harm it > causes to ship it, and so on... We haven't been able to ship it *consistently*. It either has to be always available in the x86_64 compo

Re: CPE Git Forge Decision

2020-04-03 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Fri, Apr 03, 2020 at 09:55:48AM +0200, Clement Verna wrote: ...snip... (side note: can people please try and trim their replies to this list? I know gmail makes that hard, but it's anoying to read a thread where you have to keep hitting page down to get the next few lines of new text. Thanks

Re: Fedora 33 System-Wide Change Proposal: ELN Buildroot and Compose V3

2020-04-03 Thread Matthew Miller
On Thu, Apr 02, 2020 at 10:32:31PM +0200, Nicolas Mailhot via devel wrote: > Would it be possible to formalize the kind of spec processing ELN wants > available in a set of generic operations with generic arguments (or > control variables)? > > I would not mind seeing a set of ELN macro calls in m

Re: Fedora 33 System-Wide Change proposal: Removal of the glibc-headers package

2020-04-03 Thread Neal Gompa
On Fri, Apr 3, 2020 at 1:20 PM Ben Cotton wrote: > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/RemoveGlibcHeaders > > == Summary == > It was always the intent that on Fedora for x86-64, only the > `glibc-headers.x86_64` was installed and available from composes. > However, due to compose tool limitat

Re: CPE Git Forge Decision

2020-04-03 Thread Adam Williamson
On Fri, 2020-04-03 at 10:08 -0700, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > On Fri, Apr 03, 2020 at 11:11:52AM +0200, Vít Ondruch wrote: > > I see one more trend nobody is really talking about. > > > > Once there appears somebody brilliant in community, sooner or later Red > > Hat hires him. Unfortunately, this rarel

Re: CPE Git Forge Decision

2020-04-03 Thread Adam Williamson
On Fri, 2020-04-03 at 13:18 -0400, Matthew Miller wrote: > On Fri, Apr 03, 2020 at 01:04:33PM -0400, Ben Cotton wrote: > > For what it's worth, when I sent the list I included a reminder that > > FOSS is always our strong preference where viable. It was a mistake to > > not leave that in as a user

Re: CPE Git Forge Decision

2020-04-03 Thread Adam Williamson
On Fri, 2020-04-03 at 13:04 -0400, Ben Cotton wrote: > One thing I'll note here: this is *exactly* the kind of thing that > > would have come to light very quickly if the open process which was > > committed to at the start had actually been followed through on. > > You are absolutely right. I sc

Fedora 33 System-Wide Change proposal: Removal of the glibc-headers package

2020-04-03 Thread Ben Cotton
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/RemoveGlibcHeaders == Summary == It was always the intent that on Fedora for x86-64, only the `glibc-headers.x86_64` was installed and available from composes. However, due to compose tool limitations, the `glibc-headers.i686` package sometimes leaks into the

Re: CPE Git Forge Decision

2020-04-03 Thread Matthew Miller
On Fri, Apr 03, 2020 at 01:04:33PM -0400, Ben Cotton wrote: > For what it's worth, when I sent the list I included a reminder that > FOSS is always our strong preference where viable. It was a mistake to > not leave that in as a user story. I own that. I did that because of Eh, I remember it somew

Re: CPE Git Forge Decision

2020-04-03 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Fri, Apr 03, 2020 at 11:11:52AM +0200, Vít Ondruch wrote: > > I see one more trend nobody is really talking about. > > Once there appears somebody brilliant in community, sooner or later Red > Hat hires him. Unfortunately, this rarely means that the person keeps > their independence. This also

Re: CPE Git Forge Decision

2020-04-03 Thread Matthew Miller
On Fri, Apr 03, 2020 at 09:42:12AM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > He is the FPL, he is not the Pope. I think we can all agree that this is for the best. :) -- Matthew Miller Fedora Project Leader ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.or

Re: CPE Git Forge Decision

2020-04-03 Thread Ben Cotton
On Fri, Apr 3, 2020 at 12:42 PM Adam Williamson wrote: > > The end result of this is that we (Fedora) have somehow indicated to > CPE that we have no preference whatsoever for F/OSS tooling. I do not > believe that should have been the case. > For what it's worth, when I sent the list I included a

Re: CPE Git Forge Decision

2020-04-03 Thread Adam Williamson
On Fri, 2020-04-03 at 12:07 -0400, Ben Cotton wrote: > On Fri, Apr 3, 2020 at 11:59 AM Leigh Griffin wrote: > > > Can we *please* see the final actual definitely official Fedora list, > > > then? If this is supposed to be an open process? > > @Ben Cotton can oblige here, it's not my place to share

Re: Change the way to acquire the keys for package upgrades [changed]

2020-04-03 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 4/3/20 6:09 AM, Richard Hughes wrote: On Fri, 3 Apr 2020 at 07:48, Samuel Sieb wrote: The problem is that in the past there have been some packages that have had to be updated first to successfully do the upgrade. So we list them with versions and do a deterministic check. Being told over

Re: ChnageReadyForWrangler category

2020-04-03 Thread Ben Cotton
On Fri, Apr 3, 2020 at 12:16 PM Florian Weimer wrote: > > What can I do to fix this? > Good question! We had this problem before and didn't come to a good resolution. I reopened the infra ticket[1] and I'm going to leave the page alone for now so they can investigate it. But I will check it and se

Re: koji wait-repo (newRepo) is really taking a long time

2020-04-03 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Fri, Apr 03, 2020 at 12:03:31PM +0100, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: > > I've been waiting on: > > $ koji wait-repo f33-build-side-20855 --build=ocaml-lacaml-9.3.2-17.fc33 > > for hours now. Seems like newRepo generation is again taking a very > long time? Yeah, trying to figure it out... htt

ChnageReadyForWrangler category

2020-04-03 Thread Florian Weimer
I'm trying to add to the ChangeReadyForWrangler category. The sources has this: [[Category:ChangeReadyForWrangler]] but it doesn't appear in the footer or on the category page:

My Email

2020-04-03 Thread Ayman Riad Solh
ayman.riad.sol...@gmail.com username : cryptorsa ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-cond

Re: CPE Git Forge Decision

2020-04-03 Thread Ben Cotton
On Fri, Apr 3, 2020 at 11:59 AM Leigh Griffin wrote: > >> Can we *please* see the final actual definitely official Fedora list, >> then? If this is supposed to be an open process? > @Ben Cotton can oblige here, it's not my place to share it without a > stakeholder approval. The list sent to CPE

Re: CPE Git Forge Decision

2020-04-03 Thread Leigh Griffin
On Fri, Apr 3, 2020 at 4:20 PM Jeremy Cline wrote: > On Fri, 2020-04-03 at 05:38 -0400, Neal Gompa wrote: > > On Fri, Apr 3, 2020 at 5:29 AM Michal Konecny > > wrote: > > > On 03/04/2020 01:25, Jeremy Cline wrote: > > > > On Thu, 2020-04-02 at 11:52 +0100, Leigh Griffin wrote: > > > > > The numb

Re: CPE Git Forge Decision

2020-04-03 Thread Leigh Griffin
On Fri, Apr 3, 2020 at 4:04 PM Adam Williamson wrote: > On Fri, 2020-04-03 at 13:18 +0100, Leigh Griffin wrote: > > > > > What I'm looking at is the commit logs. That's all that ultimately > > > matters. But see above revisions, of course. > > > > > > > I think that's a very narrow view of the wo

Re: Modularity Survey

2020-04-03 Thread Adam Williamson
On Fri, 2020-04-03 at 15:52 +0200, Daniel Mach wrote: > Hello everyone, > > On behalf of Red Hat's Modularity team, I'd like to ask you to fill out > a survey on Modularity: > https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLScOA97rGONieSOYmlZLsHdkq-EhdePZ4IN3RwOjJKd1F1a9sw/viewform?usp=sf_link > > Our

Re: CPE Git Forge Decision

2020-04-03 Thread Jeremy Cline
On Fri, 2020-04-03 at 05:38 -0400, Neal Gompa wrote: > On Fri, Apr 3, 2020 at 5:29 AM Michal Konecny > wrote: > > On 03/04/2020 01:25, Jeremy Cline wrote: > > > On Thu, 2020-04-02 at 11:52 +0100, Leigh Griffin wrote: > > > > The number of active developers on Fedora initiatives has gone > > > > up

Re: CPE Git Forge Decision

2020-04-03 Thread Adam Williamson
On Fri, 2020-04-03 at 12:45 +0100, Leigh Griffin wrote: > On Thu, Apr 2, 2020 at 3:58 PM Michael Catanzaro > wrote: > > > On Wed, Apr 1, 2020 at 8:16 pm, Paul Frields > > wrote: > > > For a solution to be viable it needs to meet requirements. > > > > Of course, but the problem is that the requi

Re: CPE Git Forge Decision

2020-04-03 Thread Adam Williamson
On Fri, 2020-04-03 at 13:18 +0100, Leigh Griffin wrote: > > > What I'm looking at is the commit logs. That's all that ultimately > > matters. But see above revisions, of course. > > > > I think that's a very narrow view of the world to base your assertions on > commit logs only, I don't see the

Re: CPE Git Forge Decision

2020-04-03 Thread Matthew Miller
On Thu, Apr 02, 2020 at 11:49:43AM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > > Marie is also working on reforming the web, design, and marketing teams > > and building those up so we don't have to be directly dependent on Red > > Hat in those areas (where, let's face it, Red Hat has historically > > under-in

Fwd: Modularity Survey

2020-04-03 Thread Ben Cotton
If you have questions or comments about the survey to discuss on the mailing list, use this thread: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org/thread/NAACOHBWTKAZN3IOQKWDNTEHS2BQ6OVJ/ -- Forwarded message - From: Daniel Mach Date: Fri, Apr 3, 2020

Modularity Survey

2020-04-03 Thread Daniel Mach
Hello everyone, On behalf of Red Hat's Modularity team, I'd like to ask you to fill out a survey on Modularity: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLScOA97rGONieSOYmlZLsHdkq-EhdePZ4IN3RwOjJKd1F1a9sw/viewform?usp=sf_link Our goal is to use your feedback to improve Modularity, its documenta

Re: Mock build of GO program fails

2020-04-03 Thread Nicolas Mailhot via devel
Le vendredi 03 avril 2020 à 10:58 +, Ralf Senderek a écrit : > I need a bit of assistance from a GO package expert. > > I'm trying to package ssh-chat. ( > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1819180) > ssh-chat is written in GO and it implements a custom SSH server > (on a different

Re: How to enable package gating

2020-04-03 Thread Miro Hrončok
On 03. 04. 20 14:49, Lukas Holecek wrote: Hi Vojtěch, The issue is that the file suffix should be `.yaml`, not `.yml`. Damn that YAML suffix. It's a hard-to-find issue that happened before. Maybe Greenwave should fallback to get `gating.yml` (it would require an additional request to git repo t

Re: Fwd: Heads-up: RPM 4.16 alpha coming to rawhide

2020-04-03 Thread Panu Matilainen
On 4/2/20 7:45 PM, Pavel Raiskup wrote: On Tuesday, March 31, 2020 8:42:37 AM CEST Panu Matilainen wrote: Last but certainly not least, please do test the database stuff! We will not be changing the default until several weeks from now (for stabilization and coordination with infrastructure/rel-

Re: CPE Git Forge Decision

2020-04-03 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Fri, Apr 3, 2020 at 8:15 am, Michael Catanzaro wrote: Much of the strongest criticism in this thread (and the ELN thread) is coming from Red Hat employees (often using personal email addresses). Vit, I spent quite some time composing that mail, yet managed to send it *before* looking at

Re: CPE Git Forge Decision

2020-04-03 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Fri, Apr 3, 2020 at 11:11 am, Vít Ondruch wrote: Once there appears somebody brilliant in community, sooner or later Red Hat hires him. Unfortunately, this rarely means that the person keeps their independence. This also means that later we are missing the "pure" community. Much of the s

Re: @core install picking up desktop packages

2020-04-03 Thread Petr Pisar
On Fri, Apr 03, 2020 at 02:25:36PM +0200, Kalev Lember wrote: > On Fri, Apr 3, 2020 at 2:18 PM Jan Pazdziora wrote: > > > The dependency chain from @core to gtk3 and fonts actually goes from > > gnupg2, required by dnf, which recommends pinentry, which requires > > libsecret-1.so.0()(64bit), whic

Re: Change the way to acquire the keys for package upgrades [changed]

2020-04-03 Thread Richard Hughes
On Fri, 3 Apr 2020 at 07:48, Samuel Sieb wrote: > The problem is that in the past there have been some packages that have > had to be updated first to successfully do the upgrade. So we list them with versions and do a deterministic check. Being told over and over and again "you need to make sure

Re: CPE Git Forge Decision

2020-04-03 Thread Neal Gompa
On Fri, Apr 3, 2020 at 4:24 AM Julen Landa Alustiza wrote: > > > > 20/4/3 10:06(e)an, Michal Konecny igorleak idatzi zuen: > > > > > > On 02/04/2020 23:51, Björn Persson wrote: > >> Paul Frields wrote: > >>> That statement rings hollow for me, when Github is arguably the single > >>> biggest vendo

Re: How to enable package gating

2020-04-03 Thread Lukas Holecek
Hi Vojtěch, The issue is that the file suffix should be `.yaml`, not `.yml`. Damn that YAML suffix. It's a hard-to-find issue that happened before. Maybe Greenwave should fallback to get `gating.yml` (it would require an additional request to git repo thought). Lukas On Tue, Mar 31, 2020 at 2:

Re: CPE Git Forge Decision

2020-04-03 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Thu, Apr 2, 2020 at 4:48 pm, Erich Eickmeyer wrote: It's very possible that the Fedora Council has failed too for allowing this situation to happen. I don't think this is entirely fair... Council hasn't had enough time to react to this yet. It seems they failed to adequately communicate t

Re: Fedora 33 System-Wide Change Proposal: ELN Buildroot and Compose V3

2020-04-03 Thread Aleksandra Fedorova
On Fri, Apr 3, 2020 at 11:59 AM Petr Viktorin wrote: > > On 2020-04-02 20:07, Stephen Gallagher wrote: > > On Thu, Apr 2, 2020 at 12:56 PM Miro Hrončok wrote: > >> The change proposal received overly negative feedback by the packager > >> community > >> as represented both by RHEL¹ and non-RHEL

Re: Mock build of GO program fails

2020-04-03 Thread Alejandro Saez Morollon
Hi. For Go packages, what we do is to use dependencies that are already in the repo and avoid download anything because as you saw, there is no connectivity inside mock. Also, we avoid using vendoring. You should take a look at https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/packaging-guidelines/Golang/ bec

Re: @core install picking up desktop packages

2020-04-03 Thread Kalev Lember
On Fri, Apr 3, 2020 at 2:18 PM Jan Pazdziora wrote: > The dependency chain from @core to gtk3 and fonts actually goes from > gnupg2, required by dnf, which recommends pinentry, which requires > libsecret-1.so.0()(64bit), which then recommends gnome-keyring, which > requires /usr/libexec/gcr-ssh-a

Re: CPE Git Forge Decision

2020-04-03 Thread Leigh Griffin
On Thu, Apr 2, 2020 at 7:48 PM Adam Williamson wrote: > On Thu, 2020-04-02 at 11:52 +0100, Leigh Griffin wrote: > > [up front: apologies for any weird formatting in this email, Evolution > is crashing on me like crazy while I try to edit it, so I'm sending it > from Roundcube which I don't normal

Re: @core install picking up desktop packages

2020-04-03 Thread Jan Pazdziora
On Thu, Apr 02, 2020 at 02:59:33PM -0400, Stephen Gallagher wrote: > > > On Thu, 2020-04-02 at 13:24 -0400, Steve Grubb wrote: > > > > > > > Hello, > > > > > > > > I've been doing some testing of F32 and was curious about something. I > > > > have a kickstart file that just installs @core to be a m

Fedora-Cloud-31-20200403.0 compose check report

2020-04-03 Thread Fedora compose checker
No missing expected images. Passed openQA tests: 1/1 (x86_64) -- Mail generated by check-compose: https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/check-compose ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedorap

Re: CPE Git Forge Decision

2020-04-03 Thread Martin Kolman
- Original Message - > From: "Michal Konecny" > To: devel@lists.fedoraproject.org > Sent: Friday, April 3, 2020 10:06:26 AM > Subject: Re: CPE Git Forge Decision > > > > On 02/04/2020 23:51, Björn Persson wrote: > > > > Paul Frields wrote: > > > > That statement rings hollow for

Orphaned three Java packages

2020-04-03 Thread Fabio Valentini
Hi all, We have just orphaned three packages since they are no longer required any other package that's maintained by the Stewardship SIG: - guava20 - jetty-parent - plexus-bsh-factory guava20 is a compat package that should no longer be needed, since the whole machinery that's used for building

Re: HEADS UP: repoquery --whatrequires yields incomplete results when run from Fedora 32+

2020-04-03 Thread Miro Hrončok
On 11. 03. 20 17:25, Miro Hrončok wrote: I have upgraded to Fedora 32 today and after a while I have noticed that `repoquery --whatrequires` yields incomplete results. From Fedora 31: $ dnf --refresh repoquery --repo=rawhide{,-source} --whatrequires python3-flaky pipenv-0:2018.11.26-13.fc32.s

Re: CPE Git Forge Decision

2020-04-03 Thread Leigh Griffin
On Thu, Apr 2, 2020 at 3:58 PM Michael Catanzaro wrote: > On Wed, Apr 1, 2020 at 8:16 pm, Paul Frields > wrote: > > For a solution to be viable it needs to meet requirements. > > Of course, but the problem is that the requirements identified by CPE > are wildly inconsistent with the actual requi

koji wait-repo (newRepo) is really taking a long time

2020-04-03 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
I've been waiting on: $ koji wait-repo f33-build-side-20855 --build=ocaml-lacaml-9.3.2-17.fc33 for hours now. Seems like newRepo generation is again taking a very long time? Also it'd be nice if this command didn't time out after 2 hours (seems like a very odd and arbitrary choice - why not wa

Mock build of GO program fails

2020-04-03 Thread Ralf Senderek
I need a bit of assistance from a GO package expert. I'm trying to package ssh-chat. (https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1819180) ssh-chat is written in GO and it implements a custom SSH server (on a different port) that provides a chat room instead of a shell. I was successful to bui

Re: Fedora 33 System-Wide Change Proposal: ELN Buildroot and Compose V3

2020-04-03 Thread Petr Viktorin
On 2020-04-02 20:07, Stephen Gallagher wrote: On Thu, Apr 2, 2020 at 12:56 PM Miro Hrončok wrote: The change proposal received overly negative feedback by the packager community as represented both by RHEL¹ and non-RHEL maintainers. Despite being reworked several times, none of this feedback wa

Re: Fedora 33 System-Wide Change Proposal: ELN Buildroot and Compose V3

2020-04-03 Thread Miro Hrončok
On 02. 04. 20 20:07, Stephen Gallagher wrote: This is a great example of the Nirvana Fallacy. Essentially, you are arguing that improvements for one group is not acceptable unless it improves things for every other group too. (I will answer the entire e-mail hopefully later today, but I could n

Re: CPE Git Forge Decision

2020-04-03 Thread Neal Gompa
On Fri, Apr 3, 2020 at 5:29 AM Michal Konecny wrote: > > On 03/04/2020 01:25, Jeremy Cline wrote: > > On Thu, 2020-04-02 at 11:52 +0100, Leigh Griffin wrote: > >> The number of active developers on Fedora initiatives has gone up > >> drastically since I joined the team in 2019. You are possibly no

Re: Fedora 33 System-Wide Change Proposal: ELN Buildroot and Compose V3

2020-04-03 Thread Vít Ondruch
Dne 03. 04. 20 v 10:46 Vít Ondruch napsal(a): > > > Dne 02. 04. 20 v 21:38 Kalev Lember napsal(a): >> On Thu, Apr 2, 2020 at 9:10 PM Stephen Gallagher > > wrote: >> >> And having to manually perform a sync between those packages for >> every >> update is som

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