Re: RFC: Multiple parallel side tags

2019-06-17 Thread Vít Ondruch
Dne 18. 06. 19 v 2:03 Kevin Fenzi napsal(a): > On 6/17/19 4:47 PM, Kevin Kofler wrote: >> Kevin Fenzi wrote: >>> I disagree. I think we need gating to block as much stuff that breaks >>> things from landing as we can and then we should find that keeping >>> composes going is much easier on all of

Re: Orphaned packages, who will take them?

2019-06-17 Thread Vít Ondruch
Dne 17. 06. 19 v 21:14 Miro Hrončok napsal(a): > The following packages are orphaned and will be retired when they > are orphaned for six weeks, unless someone adopts them. If you know > for sure > that the package should be retired, please do so now with a proper > reason: > https://fedoraproject

Re: Fedora 31 Self-Contained Change proposal: Xfce 4.14

2019-06-17 Thread Panu Matilainen
On 6/17/19 5:08 PM, Ben Cotton wrote: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/xfce-4.14 == Summary == Xfce desktop environment has version 4.13.x which is currently available in Fedora. Significant work has been completed to migrate the DE to GTK-3 completely. The obvious benefit to this migrati

Re: octave 5.1 coming to rawhide

2019-06-17 Thread Orion Poplawski
On 6/16/19 4:40 PM, Orion Poplawski wrote: I'm about about to start building octave 5.1 and dependent packages in rawhide.  This is a soname and octave api change. Built in rawhide. Modular updates submitted for F30 and F29. https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-MODULAR-2019-917b958a

[Fedocal] Reminder meeting : Modularity Team (weekly)

2019-06-17 Thread nils
Dear all, You are kindly invited to the meeting: Modularity Team (weekly) on 2019-06-18 from 15:00:00 to 16:00:00 UTC At fedora-meetin...@irc.freenode.net The meeting will be about: Meeting of the Modularity Team. More information available at: [Modularity Team Docs](https://docs.pagure.o

Re: HEADS UP: DynamicBuildRequires are available

2019-06-17 Thread James Cassell
On Mon, Jun 17, 2019, at 9:28 PM, Igor Gnatenko wrote: > Hi folks, > > as of today, builders have been updated (thanks to Kevin) and > DynamicBuildRequires finally work in Rawhide. > > Change Page: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/DynamicBuildRequires > Example of real build: > https://koji

Re: RFC: Multiple parallel side tags

2019-06-17 Thread Igor Gnatenko
On Tue, Jun 18, 2019 at 3:01 AM Kevin Fenzi wrote: > > On 6/17/19 4:47 PM, Kevin Kofler wrote: > > Kevin Fenzi wrote: > >> I disagree. I think we need gating to block as much stuff that breaks > >> things from landing as we can and then we should find that keeping > >> composes going is much easie

HEADS UP: DynamicBuildRequires are available

2019-06-17 Thread Igor Gnatenko
Hi folks, as of today, builders have been updated (thanks to Kevin) and DynamicBuildRequires finally work in Rawhide. Change Page: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/DynamicBuildRequires Example of real build: https://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=1286391 _

Re: RFC: Multiple parallel side tags

2019-06-17 Thread Neal Gompa
On Mon, Jun 17, 2019 at 8:53 PM Kevin Fenzi wrote: > > On 6/17/19 4:47 PM, Kevin Kofler wrote: > > Kevin Fenzi wrote: > >> I disagree. I think we need gating to block as much stuff that breaks > >> things from landing as we can and then we should find that keeping > >> composes going is much easie

Re: RFC: Multiple parallel side tags

2019-06-17 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On 6/17/19 4:47 PM, Kevin Kofler wrote: > Kevin Fenzi wrote: >> I disagree. I think we need gating to block as much stuff that breaks >> things from landing as we can and then we should find that keeping >> composes going is much easier on all of us. Then things can be fixed >> when gating catches

Re: RFC: Multiple parallel side tags

2019-06-17 Thread Kevin Kofler
Kevin Fenzi wrote: > I disagree. I think we need gating to block as much stuff that breaks > things from landing as we can and then we should find that keeping > composes going is much easier on all of us. Then things can be fixed > when gating catches them and it's on the person who broke things.

Re: LaTeX: Font lmroman10-regular: at 10pt not loadable: metric data not found or bad

2019-06-17 Thread Jerry James
On Mon, Jun 17, 2019 at 4:50 PM Miro Hrončok wrote: > Hey, we have a weird failure with python-sphinx tests described here: Is texlive-lm installed in the build root? -- Jerry James http://www.jamezone.org/ ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedorap

Re: ltspfs: long standing FTBFS

2019-06-17 Thread Fabio Valentini
On Tue, Jun 18, 2019 at 12:33 AM Miro Hrončok wrote: > > Dear ltspfs maintainers, > please fix https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1675332 Hey Miro, According to https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/ltspfs, this package has been retired a week ago, after having been orphaned for more than

LaTeX: Font lmroman10-regular: at 10pt not loadable: metric data not found or bad

2019-06-17 Thread Miro Hrončok
Hey, we have a weird failure with python-sphinx tests described here: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1717670 This is LuaTeX, Version 1.10.0 (TeX Live 2019) restricted system commands enabled. (./lualatex/sphinxtests.tex LaTeX2e <2018-12-01> luaotfload | main : initialization compl

ltspfs: long standing FTBFS

2019-06-17 Thread Miro Hrončok
Dear ltspfs maintainers, please fix https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1675332 Thanks, -- Miro Hrončok -- Phone: +420777974800 IRC: mhroncok ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lis

Re: Orphaned packages, who will take them?

2019-06-17 Thread Miro Hrončok
On 17. 06. 19 21:27, Luis Enrique Bazán De León wrote: Hi Miro Can I work on this python-slugify Sure, request package ownership via: https://pagure.io/releng/issues -- Miro Hrončok -- Phone: +420777974800 IRC: mhroncok ___ devel mailing list -- dev

Re: Modularity vs. libgit

2019-06-17 Thread Colin Walters
On Mon, Jun 17, 2019, at 2:51 PM, Neal Gompa wrote: > RPM-OSTree is functionally irrelevant in this discussion, Changing how we handle the kernel is certainly relevant. > since it has > its own behavior patterns and eschews compatibility with the greater > ecosystem anyway. I don't think th

Re: RFC: Multiple parallel side tags

2019-06-17 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On 6/10/19 3:00 PM, Kevin Kofler wrote: > Martin Kolman wrote: >> But even for package development and integration you need something that >> works at least a bit. If you won't get a compose for a few weeks due to >> the constant breakage you won't get much work done on landing your latest >> libra

Re: Modularity vs. libgit

2019-06-17 Thread Terry Bowling
Oh, I forgot to add that related to parallel installations, when conflicting modules are desired, generally containerization or virtualization is the recommended solution. However, this is from the RHEL user persona perspective. We realize that is a very different user persona from say a develope

Re: The state of Python 3.8 in Fedora 31

2019-06-17 Thread Miro Hrončok
On 17. 06. 19 22:12, Fabio Valentini wrote: - right after the F32 branching (2019-08-13 according to the [schedule]), we would start with the side tag builds This is probably a typo, you must mean "just after the F31 branching", right? Yes! F31 branching. -- Miro Hrončok -- Phone: +4207779

Re: The state of Python 3.8 in Fedora 31

2019-06-17 Thread Fabio Valentini
On Mon, Jun 17, 2019 at 9:52 PM Miro Hrončok wrote: > > Hello, > > When I filed the Python 3.8 [change] for Fedora 31, we knew that the schedule > would be tight. > > For that very reason, we have not yet started to build for Python 3.8 in a f31 > side tag, but instead we've only been doing it in

Re: Modularity vs. libgit

2019-06-17 Thread Terry Bowling
Regarding to a few of the questions about why modularity was created in the first place (paraphrased), I can offer the following background. Note, I was not on the team at the very beginning but have been very involved for the last ~2 years. Do not consider the following to be formal answers, gui

Re: F30 FTBFS Packages - Help Please?

2019-06-17 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On 6/1/19 6:40 PM, Scott Talbert wrote: > Hi, > ...snip... I went and did these two: > https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/syslinux/pull-request/1 > https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/linux-atm/pull-request/1 kevin signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature __

Re: Trouble logging into pagure.io

2019-06-17 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On 5/27/19 6:55 AM, Arjun Shankar wrote: > Hi, > > My FAS account is "submachine". I just tried logging into pagure.io, and > while the login succeeded, immediately after, I got a 404 error page with > the error 'No user "submachine" found'. All pagure.io URLs lead to the same > 404, so I can't fi

Re: The state of Python 3.8 in Fedora 31

2019-06-17 Thread Miro Hrončok
On 17. 06. 19 21:41, Ben Cotton wrote: Thanks for bringing this up, Miro. On Mon, Jun 17, 2019 at 3:03 PM Miro Hrončok wrote: - there are ~200 build failures that block this, tracked on [bugzilla] I did a spot check of a few of the BZs and it looks like some of those build failures are u

Re: The state of Python 3.8 in Fedora 31

2019-06-17 Thread Ben Cotton
Thanks for bringing this up, Miro. On Mon, Jun 17, 2019 at 3:03 PM Miro Hrončok wrote: > - there are ~200 build failures that block this, tracked on [bugzilla] I did a spot check of a few of the BZs and it looks like some of those build failures are unrelated to Python 3.8 but are due to othe

Re: Orphaned packages, who will take them?

2019-06-17 Thread Luis Enrique Bazán De León
Hi Miro Can I work on this python-slugify FAS lbazan Cheers, El lun., 17 jun. 2019 a las 14:14, Miro Hrončok () escribió: > The following packages are orphaned and will be retired when they > are orphaned for six weeks, unless someone adopts them. If you know for > sure > that the package sho

Orphaned packages, who will take them?

2019-06-17 Thread Miro Hrončok
The following packages are orphaned and will be retired when they are orphaned for six weeks, unless someone adopts them. If you know for sure that the package should be retired, please do so now with a proper reason: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_remove_a_package_at_end_of_life Note: If

Re: Langpacks and the packages needed to display/input a language

2019-06-17 Thread Jason L Tibbitts III
> "JP" == Jens-Ulrik Petersen writes: JP> Jason, can you explain in more details (bug report is also fine) how JP> exactly you are installing? I install a generic minimal system via kickstart (booted using the Server PXE images and using the Everything repositories) and then after the reboot

The state of Python 3.8 in Fedora 31

2019-06-17 Thread Miro Hrončok
Hello, When I filed the Python 3.8 [change] for Fedora 31, we knew that the schedule would be tight. For that very reason, we have not yet started to build for Python 3.8 in a f31 side tag, but instead we've only been doing it in [copr] so far. The mass rebuild happens on 2019-07-24, accord

Re: Modularity vs. libgit

2019-06-17 Thread Neal Gompa
On Mon, Jun 17, 2019 at 2:29 PM Colin Walters wrote: > > On Mon, Jun 17, 2019, at 4:47 AM, Michael Schroeder wrote: > > On Fri, Jun 14, 2019 at 12:12:01PM -0400, Neal Gompa wrote: > > > I would actually really like to see rpm's multiversioning capabilities > > > extended to support this. > > > > I

Re: Modularity vs. libgit

2019-06-17 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 6/14/19 6:29 AM, Daniel Mach wrote: Dne 14. 06. 19 v 6:23 Samuel Sieb napsal(a): After reading the bug report and the discussions, I still don't understand why dnf is complaining about a conflict with packages (modules?) that are not installed and are not even trying to be installed.  Can s

Re: Modularity vs. libgit

2019-06-17 Thread Colin Walters
On Mon, Jun 17, 2019, at 4:47 AM, Michael Schroeder wrote: > On Fri, Jun 14, 2019 at 12:12:01PM -0400, Neal Gompa wrote: > > I would actually really like to see rpm's multiversioning capabilities > > extended to support this. > > I'd actually prefer to drop the multiversion mode for the kernel a

Re: Modularity vs. libgit

2019-06-17 Thread Josh Boyer
On Sun, Jun 16, 2019 at 2:53 AM Remi Collet wrote: > > Le 14/06/2019 à 20:03, Josh Boyer a écrit : > > On Fri, Jun 14, 2019 at 3:50 AM Remi Collet > > wrote: > >> > >> > >>> IMHO, having library in modules is an error, this can only raise issues > >> > >> Some examples, taken from RHEL-8 > >> >

Re: Is __python now required to be defined in rawhide?

2019-06-17 Thread Miro Hrončok
On 17. 06. 19 16:28, Florian Weimer wrote: * Florian Weimer: diff --git a/macros.python-srpm b/macros.python-srpm index 514a449..f25189b 100644 --- a/macros.python-srpm +++ b/macros.python-srpm @@ -5,6 +5,10 @@ %__python2 /usr/bin/python2 %__python3 /usr/bin/python3 +# This now errors un

Re: Is __python now required to be defined in rawhide?

2019-06-17 Thread Florian Weimer
* Florian Weimer: >> diff --git a/macros.python-srpm b/macros.python-srpm >> index 514a449..f25189b 100644 >> --- a/macros.python-srpm >> +++ b/macros.python-srpm >> @@ -5,6 +5,10 @@ >> %__python2 /usr/bin/python2 >> %__python3 /usr/bin/python3 >> >> +# This now errors unless redefined to user

Is __python now required to be defined in rawhide?

2019-06-17 Thread Florian Weimer
> diff --git a/macros.python-srpm b/macros.python-srpm > index 514a449..f25189b 100644 > --- a/macros.python-srpm > +++ b/macros.python-srpm > @@ -5,6 +5,10 @@ > %__python2 /usr/bin/python2 > %__python3 /usr/bin/python3 > > +# This now errors unless redefined to user provided value > +%__python

Fedora 31 Self-Contained Change proposal: Xfce 4.14

2019-06-17 Thread Ben Cotton
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/xfce-4.14 == Summary == Xfce desktop environment has version 4.13.x which is currently available in Fedora. Significant work has been completed to migrate the DE to GTK-3 completely. The obvious benefit to this migration is the use of a modern and actively m

Re: Any new restriction in Koji added recently in Rawhide?

2019-06-17 Thread Florian Weimer
* Panu Matilainen: > On 6/13/19 12:54 PM, Miroslav Suchý wrote: >> This is wrong (not sure if the culprit) >> >> %endif %{__with_rebar3} >> >> I would rewrite it to: >> >> %endif # __with_rebar3 > > Actually both are wrong, and rpm >= 4.15 will complain (unlike old > versions). Rpm only supports c

Re: Automating R package dependencies

2019-06-17 Thread José Abílio Matos
On Sunday, 16 June 2019 03.09.41 WEST Elliott Sales de Andrade wrote: > Hi R-interested packagers and others, > > So now the question is how to apply this. I expect there are social > concerns, i.e., discussing with the R maintainer, making a > Self-contained Change, etc. But for this email, I am

Re: Modularity vs. libgit

2019-06-17 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Mon, Jun 17, 2019 at 5:35 AM Michael Schroeder wrote: > > On Fri, Jun 14, 2019 at 12:12:01PM -0400, Neal Gompa wrote: > > I would actually really like to see rpm's multiversioning capabilities > > extended to support this. > > I'd actually prefer to drop the multiversion mode for the kernel and

Remove sysctl function from glibc in rawhide?

2019-06-17 Thread Florian Weimer
I'd like to suggest to remove the sysctl function from glibc in rawhide this week. It's been deprecated upstream, but I think it's more convenient to us to remove it in a mid-year release cycle, separate from the GCC rebase. On some architectures (notable aarch64), the sysctl function is just a s

Re: encrypted swap with urandom key problem

2019-06-17 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Sa, 08.06.19 15:34, Chris Murphy (li...@colorremedies.com) wrote: > However, in the failing case, that doesn't happen, and systemd hangs > indefinitely waiting for it to appear. And in the early debug shell, > 'blkid' sees it. That means the kernel and libblkid see it. I've got > no idea why sy

Re: Modularity vs. libgit

2019-06-17 Thread Neal Gompa
On Mon, Jun 17, 2019 at 5:35 AM Michael Schroeder wrote: > > On Fri, Jun 14, 2019 at 12:12:01PM -0400, Neal Gompa wrote: > > I would actually really like to see rpm's multiversioning capabilities > > extended to support this. > > I'd actually prefer to drop the multiversion mode for the kernel and

Re: Modularity vs. libgit

2019-06-17 Thread Michael Schroeder
On Fri, Jun 14, 2019 at 12:12:01PM -0400, Neal Gompa wrote: > I would actually really like to see rpm's multiversioning capabilities > extended to support this. I'd actually prefer to drop the multiversion mode for the kernel and instead add the version to the kernel package name. Cheers, Micha

Re: Modularity vs. libgit

2019-06-17 Thread Miro Hrončok
On 14. 06. 19 6:27, Carl George wrote: I think the best option is to create non-modular compat packages. In my opinion, modularity makes sense for end user applications, but I'm not sure what benefits it has for libraries. Libraries tend to work well as compat packages, so I implemented this