Re: Deprecated net-tools? Mass bug filing?

2017-05-17 Thread James Hogarth
On 17 May 2017 8:24 pm, "Tom Hughes" wrote: On 17/05/17 20:15, Chris Adams wrote: > Once upon a time, Ian Pilcher said: > >> Removing RPM dependencies on the net-tools package and deciding whether >> it should be installed by default are two separate (albeit related) >> discussions. >> > > The

libint license change

2017-05-17 Thread Susi Lehtola
Dear all, starting from version 1.2 (building in rawhide), the license of libint has been changed from GPLv2+ to LGPLv3. -- Susi Lehtola Fedora Project Contributor jussileht...@fedoraproject.org ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org

Schedule for Thursday's FPC Meeting (2017-05-18 16:00 UTC)

2017-05-17 Thread James Antill
 Following is the list of topics that will be discussed in the FPC meeting Thursday at 2017-05-18 16:00 UTC in #fedora-meeting-1 on irc.freenode.net.  Local time information (via. rktime): = Day: Thursday == 2017-05-18 09:00 PDT  US/Pacific 2017-05-18 1

Re: Deprecated net-tools? Mass bug filing?

2017-05-17 Thread Chuck Anderson
On Wed, May 17, 2017 at 09:16:27PM +0100, Athmane Madjoudj wrote: > On Wed, May 17, 2017 at 6:47 PM, Chuck Anderson wrote: > > I don't mind removing dependencies on net-tools, as long as there > > still exists these commands in the default install: > > > > netstat > > arp > > ifconfig > > route >

Re: Deprecated net-tools? Mass bug filing?

2017-05-17 Thread Athmane Madjoudj
Hi, On Wed, May 17, 2017 at 6:47 PM, Chuck Anderson wrote: > Here is a list of binary commands in net-tools: > > /usr/bin/netstat > /usr/sbin/arp > /usr/sbin/ether-wake > /usr/sbin/ifconfig > /usr/sbin/ipmaddr > /usr/sbin/iptunnel > /usr/sbin/mii-diag > /usr/sbin/mii-tool > /usr/sbin/nameif > /us

Re: Deprecated net-tools? Mass bug filing?

2017-05-17 Thread Tom Hughes
On 17/05/17 20:15, Chris Adams wrote: Once upon a time, Ian Pilcher said: Removing RPM dependencies on the net-tools package and deciding whether it should be installed by default are two separate (albeit related) discussions. The subject of the thread here is "deprecated", which implies remo

Re: Deprecated net-tools? Mass bug filing?

2017-05-17 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, Ian Pilcher said: > Removing RPM dependencies on the net-tools package and deciding whether > it should be installed by default are two separate (albeit related) > discussions. The subject of the thread here is "deprecated", which implies removing the package, not just reducing

Re: Deprecated net-tools? Mass bug filing?

2017-05-17 Thread Ian Pilcher
On 05/17/2017 12:47 PM, Chuck Anderson wrote: I don't mind removing dependencies on net-tools, as long as there still exists these commands in the default install: netstat arp ifconfig route I consider those to be a basic part of the user interface of any Linux/UNIX system--there is too much hi

Re: Deprecated net-tools? Mass bug filing?

2017-05-17 Thread Chuck Anderson
On Wed, May 17, 2017 at 07:04:46PM +0100, Sérgio Basto wrote: > On Wed, 2017-05-17 at 13:47 -0400, Chuck Anderson wrote: > > Here is a list of binary commands in net-tools: > > > > /usr/bin/netstat > > /usr/sbin/arp > > /usr/sbin/ether-wake > > /usr/sbin/ifconfig > > /usr/sbin/ipmaddr > > /usr/sbi

Re: Deprecated net-tools? Mass bug filing?

2017-05-17 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, Chuck Anderson said: > Here is a list of binary commands in net-tools: > /usr/sbin/ether-wake > /usr/sbin/ipmaddr > /usr/sbin/iptunnel > /usr/sbin/mii-diag > /usr/sbin/mii-tool > /usr/sbin/plipconfig > /usr/sbin/slattach Are there replacements for the above? I know I use eth

Re: Deprecated net-tools? Mass bug filing?

2017-05-17 Thread Sérgio Basto
On Wed, 2017-05-17 at 13:47 -0400, Chuck Anderson wrote: > On Wed, May 17, 2017 at 06:33:53PM +0100, James Hogarth wrote: > > On 17 May 2017 4:35 pm, "Peter Robinson" > > wrote: > > > > On Wed, May 17, 2017 at 3:48 PM, Matthew Miller > > wrote: > > > On Wed, May 17, 2017 at 09:15:51AM +0100, Jam

Re: Deprecated net-tools? Mass bug filing?

2017-05-17 Thread Chuck Anderson
On Wed, May 17, 2017 at 06:33:53PM +0100, James Hogarth wrote: > On 17 May 2017 4:35 pm, "Peter Robinson" wrote: > > On Wed, May 17, 2017 at 3:48 PM, Matthew Miller > wrote: > > On Wed, May 17, 2017 at 09:15:51AM +0100, James Hogarth wrote: > >> On 17 May 2017 at 08:46, Daniel P. Berrange wrote

Re: Schedule for Friday's FESCo Meeting (2017-05-19)

2017-05-17 Thread Adam Miller
# UPDATE: New agenda with missing item and fixed typo Following is the list of topics that will be discussed in the FESCo meeting Friday at 16:00UTC in #fedora-meeting on irc.freenode.net. To convert UTC to your local time, take a look at http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/UTCHowto or run: date -

Re: Deprecated net-tools? Mass bug filing?

2017-05-17 Thread James Hogarth
On 17 May 2017 4:35 pm, "Peter Robinson" wrote: On Wed, May 17, 2017 at 3:48 PM, Matthew Miller wrote: > On Wed, May 17, 2017 at 09:15:51AM +0100, James Hogarth wrote: >> On 17 May 2017 at 08:46, Daniel P. Berrange wrote: >> > Converting apps from nettools to iproute is often non-trivial piece

Schedule for Friday's FESCo Meeting (2017-05-19)

2017-05-17 Thread Adam Miller
Following is the list of topics that will be discussed in the FESCo meeting Friday at 16:00UTC in #fedora-meeting on irc.freenode.net. To convert UTC to your local time, take a look at http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/UTCHowto or run: date -d '2017-05-19 16:00 UTC' Links to all issues below ca

Renaming binaries due to conflicts (was: Finding conflicts in /usr/bin)

2017-05-17 Thread Mattia Verga
Debian guys use a README.debian file distributed with the package to provide end user a notice about any change in standard binary names due to conflicts. Do we have something similar in Fedora? What about a wiki page where to provide this kind of information? Something like this test page :

Re: Making swatchbooker run

2017-05-17 Thread Charalampos Stratakis
I took a look at the SPEC and tried to run the binary in mock. However there are no Requires tags, so whoever installs the swatchbooker, will get tracebacks nevertheless. I had to manually install python2-qt5 as well as python2-pillow-qt to resolve the tracebacks, and then I got a segmentation

Re: Deprecated net-tools? Mass bug filing?

2017-05-17 Thread Peter Robinson
On Wed, May 17, 2017 at 3:48 PM, Matthew Miller wrote: > On Wed, May 17, 2017 at 09:15:51AM +0100, James Hogarth wrote: >> On 17 May 2017 at 08:46, Daniel P. Berrange wrote: >> > Converting apps from nettools to iproute is often non-trivial piece >> > of work. As such isn't really something Fedor

Re: Review swap: watchman - a file watching service

2017-05-17 Thread Matthew Smith
Sorry I think I got a bit confused, but yes I can only do an informal review. Thanks for the reply On Wed, May 17, 2017 at 3:27 PM, Athos Ribeiro wrote: > On Wed, May 17, 2017 at 02:03:12PM +0100, Matthew Smith wrote: >> Hello all, I am looking for a review swap, here is a link to my bug: >> >> h

Re: Deprecated net-tools? Mass bug filing?

2017-05-17 Thread Matthew Miller
On Wed, May 17, 2017 at 09:15:51AM +0100, James Hogarth wrote: > On 17 May 2017 at 08:46, Daniel P. Berrange wrote: > > Converting apps from nettools to iproute is often non-trivial piece > > of work. As such isn't really something Fedora package maintainers > > should look to undertake as the ris

Re: Bug#732796: Please remove the link from open to openvt

2017-05-17 Thread Rex Dieter
Gürkan Myczko wrote: > Hello, > > First, I have no relation to Fedora, but I write here because of this > bug in Debian: > > https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=732796 > > Would you guys at Fedora feel like it's time to get rid of the symlink > /bin/open to make space for > xdg-op

Re: Fedora 26 Beta blocker status mail #1

2017-05-17 Thread Igor Gnatenko
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On Fri, 2017-05-12 at 17:13 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > Hi folks! The Fedora 26 Beta freeze is fast approaching (it's 2017- > 05- > 16), so it's time for a blocker status mail. > > tl;dr action summary > > > 1. https://bugz

Re: Review swap: watchman - a file watching service

2017-05-17 Thread Athos Ribeiro
On Wed, May 17, 2017 at 02:03:12PM +0100, Matthew Smith wrote: > Hello all, I am looking for a review swap, here is a link to my bug: > > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1450590 > > Also I'm looking to get sponsored. > > Thank you :) Hello Matthew, As I pointed out in the other thr

Review swap: watchman - a file watching service

2017-05-17 Thread Matthew Smith
Hello all, I am looking for a review swap, here is a link to my bug: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1450590 Also I'm looking to get sponsored. Thank you :) ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an emai

Re: Deprecated net-tools? Mass bug filing?

2017-05-17 Thread James Hogarth
On 17 May 2017 at 08:55, Jon Kent wrote: > I'd agree with that. In addition so many peoples own scripts rely on them > that the user impact could be huge. That and every SA I know (and me) > dislikes the ip tool with a passion. > Well ignoring emotional reasons for a moment, it has been deprecate

Re: Deprecated net-tools? Mass bug filing?

2017-05-17 Thread Jon Kent
I'd agree with that. In addition so many peoples own scripts rely on them that the user impact could be huge. That and every SA I know (and me) dislikes the ip tool with a passion. Regards, Jon On Wed, 17 May 2017, 08:47 Daniel P. Berrange, wrote: > On Tue, May 16, 2017 at 11:29:42PM +0100, Ja

Re: Deprecated net-tools? Mass bug filing?

2017-05-17 Thread Daniel P. Berrange
On Tue, May 16, 2017 at 11:29:42PM +0100, James Hogarth wrote: > Hi, > > It was pointed out on IRC to me tonight that there are actually a > reasonable number of packages that still depend on net-tools[0]. > > This has been deprecated for a long time now and we really should > strive to have ever