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On Mon, 2016-10-31 at 18:57 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
> Huh, since F23 or so I've found the refresh button to be pretty
> reliable. It does seem to actually force Software to go refresh the
> metadata and download available updates, now. I think in the past it
> just 'forced' a run of the refre
On Mon, 2016-10-31 at 19:57 -0500, Michael Catanzaro wrote:
> I think it's a GNOME Software bug that it says up to date when it's
> not. I've complained about that for years. It will happily tell you
> that your freshly-installed Fedora system is up to date months after
> release, before the first
On Mon, 2016-10-31 at 15:35 -0600, Chris Murphy wrote:
> The other thing I'm seeing is, I'll get a notification for software
> updates, click on it, see the Restart & Install blue button in GNOME
> Software, close/quite GNOME Software, and at some later time relaunch
> GNOME Software and it says ev
31.10.2016 22:35 Chris Murphy wrote:
> [...] And if I refresh, it appears to be
> downloading a lot of data all over again - I just don't know what and
> have no good way to troubleshoot this, but the refresh is taking a
> long time, maybe 30 minutes.
That's definitely not the answer for the end
On 10/31/2016 02:12 PM, Florian Weimer wrote:
On 10/31/2016 02:01 PM, Pavel Raiskup wrote:
On Monday, October 31, 2016 1:45:22 PM CET Florian Weimer wrote:
On 10/26/2016 02:45 PM, Pavel Raiskup wrote:
On Wednesday, October 26, 2016 1:33:34 PM CEST Florian Weimer wrote:
Debian does not build f
Yep, it's Test Day time again - most likely the final Test Day of the
Fedora 25 cycle. This Thursday, 2016-11-03, will be [switchable
graphics Test Day][1]!
'Switchable graphics' refers to the fairly common current practice of
laptops having two graphics adapters, one low-power one for general
pur
On Mon, Oct 31, 2016 at 3:35 PM, Chris Murphy wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 31, 2016 at 5:02 AM, Michael Catanzaro
> wrote:
>> On Sun, 2016-10-30 at 22:50 -0600, Chris Murphy wrote:
>>> Since offline updates are the default, and packagekit downloads
>>> everything currently needing updating, if the user
On Mon, Oct 31, 2016 at 5:02 AM, Michael Catanzaro wrote:
> On Sun, 2016-10-30 at 22:50 -0600, Chris Murphy wrote:
>> Since offline updates are the default, and packagekit downloads
>> everything currently needing updating, if the user doesn't ever do a
>> Restart & Install to proceed with offline
On Mon, 2016-10-31 at 11:54 -0500, Michael Catanzaro wrote:
> On Mon, 2016-10-31 at 18:15 +0200, Alexander Ploumistos wrote:
> > This is more of an issue for Workstation and the spins destined for
> > desktop use, so any possible solution needs to rely on
> > Anaconda/Initial Setup and each DE.
>
Oops, I've copied my reply to the EPEL list as requested.
On Mon, Oct 31, 2016 at 1:17 PM, Tom Boutell wrote:
> There is no version 2.8 of Mongo, they renamed that to 3.0 before release of
> 3.0.
>
> Just to provide a sense of the thought process other EPEL7 users might be
> going through here:
There is no version 2.8 of Mongo, they renamed that to 3.0 before release of
3.0.
Just to provide a sense of the thought process other EPEL7 users might be going
through here:
I started researching this when I became aware that 2.6 was nearing upstream
end-of-life (that is now happening today)
On Mon, 2016-10-31 at 18:15 +0200, Alexander Ploumistos wrote:
> This is more of an issue for Workstation and the spins destined for
> desktop use, so any possible solution needs to rely on
> Anaconda/Initial Setup and each DE.
My $0.02 as a sometimes contributor to gnome-initial-setup: it already
Hi,
thanks for answers and suggestion that epel-de...@lists.fp.o would be better -
so I've posted it there
https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/epel-de...@lists.fedoraproject.org/thread/TQPBQ25T6F323WYOGNOB6XYMEZDCSFEK/
Marek
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On Mon, 2016-10-31 at 12:25 -0400, Bastien Nocera wrote:
> Otherwise your description doesn't seem to square with the fact that
> > most everyone sees background update downloads OOTB.
> >
> > Even still, in fact, kparal mentioned them happening on hotel wifi, so
> > why would that be the case if
On Mon, Oct 31, 2016 at 04:19:54PM +, Petr Pisar wrote:
> > Yeah, so I guess "all" is the wrong word. It'd be nice to be able to
> > review and override specific rpmlint errors on a per-package bases (and
> > maybe a process to review those overrides to prevent abuse when there's
> > a real pro
On Mon, 31 Oct 2016 14:12:24 +0100
Florian Weimer wrote:
> On 10/31/2016 02:01 PM, Pavel Raiskup wrote:
> > On Monday, October 31, 2016 1:45:22 PM CET Florian Weimer wrote:
> >> On 10/26/2016 02:45 PM, Pavel Raiskup wrote:
> >>> On Wednesday, October 26, 2016 1:33:34 PM CEST Florian Weimer
>
On Mon, Oct 31, 2016 at 09:23:06AM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
> For that matter, I'm fairly sure I've seen background update
> downloading happen when I was using an Android wifi tether
> connection. I'm pretty sure I remember it blowing my data cap one
> month when I was using my laptop on the
No, there's no UI:
https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=745747
- Original Message -
> On Mon, 2016-10-31 at 15:09 +, Richard Hughes wrote:
> >
> > I think this kind of issue is really fixed the hard way, i.e. fixing
> > bugs and adding unimplemented features rather than just add
- Original Message -
> On Mon, 2016-10-31 at 08:18 -0400, Bastien Nocera wrote:
>
> > > How does a connection become "unmetered"? It can't just be on interface
> > > type,
> > > as I have metered connections on all interface types, so presumably you
> > > use
> > > some form of web servi
On Mon, 2016-10-31 at 08:18 -0400, Bastien Nocera wrote:
> > How does a connection become "unmetered"? It can't just be on interface
> > type,
> > as I have metered connections on all interface types, so presumably you use
> > some form of web service to distinguish "metered" from "unmetered" bas
On Mon, Oct 31, 2016 at 09:06:50AM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
> One of the bugs has a note I was not aware of before: there's
> actually a DHCP value that can be sent by the server to denote a
> metered connection. If that's actually widely respected, and set by
> phone wifi AP applications and
On Mon, 2016-10-31 at 09:13 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
> On Mon, 2016-10-31 at 08:18 -0400, Bastien Nocera wrote:
>
> > > How does a connection become "unmetered"? It can't just be on interface
> > > type,
> > > as I have metered connections on all interface types, so presumably you
> > > use
On 2016-10-27, Matthew Miller wrote:
> Yeah, so I guess "all" is the wrong word. It'd be nice to be able to
> review and override specific rpmlint errors on a per-package bases (and
> maybe a process to review those overrides to prevent abuse when there's
> a real problem).
Already implemented. Y
On Mon, 2016-10-31 at 15:09 +, Richard Hughes wrote:
>
> I think this kind of issue is really fixed the hard way, i.e. fixing
> bugs and adding unimplemented features rather than just adding complex
> UI workarounds.
I think making it work as best as possible without interaction is
great, but
Hello,
I'm not sure I have all my facts straight -and by all means, please
help straighten them out-, but I would like to address Adam's original
proposals.
This is more of an issue for Workstation and the spins destined for
desktop use, so any possible solution needs to rely on
Anaconda/Initial
On Mon, Oct 31, 2016 at 12:01 PM Panu Matilainen
wrote:
> On 10/31/2016 05:17 PM, Florian Weimer wrote:
> > On 10/21/2016 05:34 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
> >> On Thu, 20 Oct 2016 16:42:02 +
> >> Christopher wrote:
> >>
> >>> What is the "Payload Hash" in koji?
> >>> It looks like an MD5, but of
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End Date: 2016-10-31 10:08:01.487323
Jitka Plesnikova : 4
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1387634
perl-Devel-Gladiator
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1387626 perl-Term-Chrome
https://bugzilla.redhat.c
Change in package status over the last 168 hours
2 packages were orphaned
rodent [master] was orphaned by sagitter
Advanced user file manager for Linux/BSD systems
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/package/rode
On Mon, 2016-10-31 at 11:55 +, Tom Hughes wrote:
> On 31/10/16 11:41, Richard Hughes wrote:
> > On 30 October 2016 at 01:26, Adam Williamson
> > wrote:
> > > 1) Both dnf and GNOME Software / PackageKit default to performing
> > > fairly data-hungry transactions in the background, out of the b
On 10/31/2016 05:17 PM, Florian Weimer wrote:
On 10/21/2016 05:34 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
On Thu, 20 Oct 2016 16:42:02 +
Christopher wrote:
What is the "Payload Hash" in koji?
It looks like an MD5, but of what? It's not the rpm... I've checked.
Should koji be providing verification hashes
On Wed, 26 Oct 2016 12:23:58 +0200
Pavel Raiskup wrote:
> On Tuesday, October 25, 2016 7:37:32 PM CEST Kevin Fenzi wrote:
> > > 3. AFAIK Fedora has no means by which it can participate in
> > > embargoed updates. For this to work, I think there ought to be
> > > private git branches, a way to ge
No missing expected images.
Failed openQA tests: 6/101 (x86_64), 3/17 (i386), 1/2 (arm)
New failures (same test did not fail in Rawhide-20161030.n.0):
ID: 45159 Test: i386 KDE-live-iso install_default
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/45159
Old failures (same test failed in Rawh
On 10/21/2016 05:34 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
On Thu, 20 Oct 2016 16:42:02 +
Christopher wrote:
What is the "Payload Hash" in koji?
It looks like an MD5, but of what? It's not the rpm... I've checked.
Should koji be providing verification hashes for manual downloads of
built RPMs? I think thi
On 31 October 2016 at 14:56, Bastien Nocera wrote:
> I'd really like the kernel to do QoS on the user's own connections. We can
> know
> whether downloads are interactive or not, so there is metadata available
> to make this better, and not cripple interactive downloads while background
> downloa
Missing expected images:
Cloud_base qcow2 x86_64
Server boot x86_64
Atomic qcow2 x86_64
Server dvd i386
Server dvd x86_64
Cloud_base raw-xz x86_64
Server boot i386
Atomic raw-xz x86_64
Failed openQA tests: 1/2 (arm)
Old failures (same test failed in 25-20161030.n.0):
ID: 45129 Test: arm M
- Original Message -
> > On 30 October 2016 at 01:26, Adam Williamson
> > wrote:
> > > 1) Both dnf and GNOME Software / PackageKit default to performing
> > > fairly data-hungry transactions in the background, out of the box,
> > > without telling you about it. GNOME's is particularly ba
On Mon, 2016-10-31 at 10:32 -0400, Kamil Paral wrote:
> >
> > On 30 October 2016 at 01:26, Adam Williamson > t.org>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > 1) Both dnf and GNOME Software / PackageKit default to performing
> > > fairly data-hungry transactions in the background, out of the
> > > box,
> > > withou
> On 30 October 2016 at 01:26, Adam Williamson
> wrote:
> > 1) Both dnf and GNOME Software / PackageKit default to performing
> > fairly data-hungry transactions in the background, out of the box,
> > without telling you about it. GNOME's is particularly bad, as it will
> > happily download availa
On Mon, Oct 31, 2016 at 12:00:58PM -0200, Athos Ribeiro wrote:
> tl;dr: different packages own /usr/lib/pythonX/site-packages/tests and
> different files with the same name inside that directory.
>
> Hi all,
>
> I was going through a package review and realized the package under
> review owns
>
On 31/10/16 14:00, Athos Ribeiro wrote:
tl;dr: different packages own /usr/lib/pythonX/site-packages/tests and
different files with the same name inside that directory.
Hi all,
I was going through a package review and realized the package under
review owns
/usr/lib/pythonX/site-packages/tests
OLD: Fedora-Rawhide-20161030.n.0
NEW: Fedora-Rawhide-20161031.n.0
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Dropped images: 0
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Dropped packages:0
Upgraded packages: 42
Downgraded packages: 0
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Size of dropped packages:0.00 B
Hi,
In F26 with the openssl 1.1.0 rebase libp11/engine_pkcs11 will be
compiled only for openssl 1.1.0. That means that there will be no
engine_pkcs11 for the packages linking to openssl 1.0.x. For that I've
created the compat-openssl10-libp11 package which is intended to
provide just that (engine_
On Monday, October 31, 2016 1:42:12 PM CET Florian Weimer wrote:
> On 10/26/2016 02:31 PM, Pavel Raiskup wrote:
> > On Wednesday, October 26, 2016 2:03:20 PM CEST Florian Weimer wrote:
> >>> However, extending Koji to support "hidden builds" is certainly a good
> >>> idea.
> >>
> >> Trust me, it's
tl;dr: different packages own /usr/lib/pythonX/site-packages/tests and
different files with the same name inside that directory.
Hi all,
I was going through a package review and realized the package under
review owns
/usr/lib/pythonX/site-packages/tests
and some files inside the directory.
sin
OLD: Fedora-25-20161030.n.0
NEW: Fedora-25-20161031.n.0
= SUMMARY =
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Dropped packages:0
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On Mon, Oct 31, 2016 at 01:38:17PM +, Richard Hughes wrote:
> I guess use a dconf override to change the default for all users, e.g.
> https://access.redhat.com/documentation/en-US/Red_Hat_Enterprise_Linux/7/html/Desktop_Migration_and_Administration_Guide/custom-default-values-system-settings.h
On Mon, Oct 31, 2016 at 1:25 PM, Marek Skalický wrote:
> Hi,
> current situation:
> EPEL6 - MongoDB 2.4.x
> EPEL7 - MongoDB 2.6.x
>
> Upstream supports only upgrade to next major version. So from 2.4 it is
> supported only to 2.6.
> Therefore I kept MongoDB 2.6 in EPEL7 (even two next major versio
On 31 October 2016 at 13:33, Matthew Miller wrote:
> This is per-user, right?
Right.
> How do you do it for the whole system?
I guess use a dconf override to change the default for all users, e.g.
https://access.redhat.com/documentation/en-US/Red_Hat_Enterprise_Linux/7/html/Desktop_Migration_a
2016-10-31 14:25 GMT+01:00 Marek Skalický :
> Hi,
> current situation:
> EPEL6 - MongoDB 2.4.x
> EPEL7 - MongoDB 2.6.x
>
> Upstream supports only upgrade to next major version. So from 2.4 it is
> supported only to 2.6.
> Therefore I kept MongoDB 2.6 in EPEL7 (even two next major versions are
> rel
On 31/10/16 13:29, Richard Hughes wrote:
On 31 October 2016 at 12:55, Bastien Nocera wrote:
So how do I tag a connection as unmetered with systemd-networkd?
You can't. You get a box of bits if you start replacing parts of the
Workstation experience
Right, in this case you'd just have to do "
On 10/31/2016 09:25 AM, Marek Skalický wrote:
> Hi,
> current situation:
> EPEL6 - MongoDB 2.4.x
> EPEL7 - MongoDB 2.6.x
>
> Upstream supports only upgrade to next major version. So from 2.4 it is
> supported only to 2.6.
> Therefore I kept MongoDB 2.6 in EPEL7 (even two next major versions are
>
On Mon, Oct 31, 2016 at 01:29:45PM +, Richard Hughes wrote:
> > You can't. You get a box of bits if you start replacing parts of the
> > Workstation experience
> Right, in this case you'd just have to do "gsettings set
> org.gnome.software download-updates false" -- we can't possibly cope
> wit
On 31 October 2016 at 12:55, Bastien Nocera wrote:
>> So how do I tag a connection as unmetered with systemd-networkd?
> You can't. You get a box of bits if you start replacing parts of the
> Workstation experience
Right, in this case you'd just have to do "gsettings set
org.gnome.software downlo
Hi,
current situation:
EPEL6 - MongoDB 2.4.x
EPEL7 - MongoDB 2.6.x
Upstream supports only upgrade to next major version. So from 2.4 it is
supported only to 2.6.
Therefore I kept MongoDB 2.6 in EPEL7 (even two next major versions are
released).
But MongoDB 2.6 is going to EOL (probably this week)
On 10/31/2016 02:01 PM, Pavel Raiskup wrote:
On Monday, October 31, 2016 1:45:22 PM CET Florian Weimer wrote:
On 10/26/2016 02:45 PM, Pavel Raiskup wrote:
On Wednesday, October 26, 2016 1:33:34 PM CEST Florian Weimer wrote:
Debian does not build from SCM, but directly from maintainer-uploaded
On Monday, October 31, 2016 1:45:22 PM CET Florian Weimer wrote:
> On 10/26/2016 02:45 PM, Pavel Raiskup wrote:
> > On Wednesday, October 26, 2016 1:33:34 PM CEST Florian Weimer wrote:
> >> Debian does not build from SCM, but directly from maintainer-uploaded
> >> source packages, so there is no ne
- Original Message -
> On 31/10/16 12:18, Bastien Nocera wrote:
>
> > They're metered unless you either tag them as unmetered, or hints are
> > provided
> > to NetworkManager by what you're connected to. For example, Android
> > tethering
> > is automatically tagged as metered as Android
On 10/26/2016 02:31 PM, Pavel Raiskup wrote:
On Wednesday, October 26, 2016 2:03:20 PM CEST Florian Weimer wrote:
However, extending Koji to support "hidden builds" is certainly a good
idea.
Trust me, it's not. Embargoes are against the spirit of Fedora, and a
general hassle for everyone invo
On 10/26/2016 02:45 PM, Pavel Raiskup wrote:
On Wednesday, October 26, 2016 1:33:34 PM CEST Florian Weimer wrote:
Debian does not build from SCM, but directly from maintainer-uploaded
source packages, so there is no need to have a private SCM.
Do we have a good marketing for the fact that we a
On 31/10/16 12:18, Bastien Nocera wrote:
They're metered unless you either tag them as unmetered, or hints are provided
to NetworkManager by what you're connected to. For example, Android tethering
is automatically tagged as metered as Android provides a hint in its DHCP
configuration.
What if
- Original Message -
> On 31 Oct 2016, at 11:41, Richard Hughes wrote:
> >
> > On 30 October 2016 at 01:26, Adam Williamson
> > wrote:
> >> 1) Both dnf and GNOME Software / PackageKit default to performing
> >> fairly data-hungry transactions in the background, out of the box,
> >> wit
On 31 Oct 2016, at 11:41, Richard Hughes wrote:
>
> On 30 October 2016 at 01:26, Adam Williamson
> wrote:
>> 1) Both dnf and GNOME Software / PackageKit default to performing
>> fairly data-hungry transactions in the background, out of the box,
>> without telling you about it. GNOME's is partic
On 10/30/2016 02:54 PM, Nikos Roussos wrote:
> On 10/28/2016 02:58 PM, Daniel J Walsh wrote:
>> What AVC's are you seeing?
> Plenty of AVC messages in the form:
>
> type=AVC msg=audit(1477853452.023:1338): avc: denied { setattr } for
> pid=23456 comm="chown" name="app_model.MYD" dev="dm-0" ino=
On 31/10/16 11:41, Richard Hughes wrote:
On 30 October 2016 at 01:26, Adam Williamson wrote:
1) Both dnf and GNOME Software / PackageKit default to performing
fairly data-hungry transactions in the background, out of the box,
without telling you about it. GNOME's is particularly bad, as it will
On 30 October 2016 at 01:26, Adam Williamson wrote:
> 1) Both dnf and GNOME Software / PackageKit default to performing
> fairly data-hungry transactions in the background, out of the box,
> without telling you about it. GNOME's is particularly bad, as it will
> happily download available updates
On Friday, October 28, 2016 12:17:13 AM CET Kevin Kofler wrote:
> > It is actually quite interesting, that while most of the development
> > happens in Rawhide, there is less sanity checks then for the Rawhide, so
> > if you screw up something in Rawhide, it will get into stable version
> > and you
On Sun, 2016-10-30 at 22:50 -0600, Chris Murphy wrote:
> Since offline updates are the default, and packagekit downloads
> everything currently needing updating, if the user doesn't ever do a
> Restart & Install to proceed with offline updates, i.e. they only
> ever
> use dnf for updates and never
Dne 27.10.2016 v 20:21 Orion Poplawski napsal(a):
> On 10/27/2016 08:05 AM, Matthew Miller wrote:
>> On Thu, Oct 27, 2016 at 12:53:27PM +0200, Vít Ondruch wrote:
>>> * And probably last think, why the Rawhide should be really exception?
>>> Why we should not use Bodhi if we are using it anywhere
Dne 28.10.2016 v 00:17 Kevin Kofler napsal(a):
>
>> * From time to time, there is necessary to build some framework, which
>> consist of several components which must be released together.
>> Currently, we either temporarily break Rawhide or we are asking for side
>> tag. But why not use koji for
On Saturday, October 29, 2016 7:09:35 PM CET Pádraig Brady wrote:
> On 27/10/16 20:19, Pádraig Brady wrote:
> > On 27/10/16 17:09, Pavel Raiskup wrote:
> >> On Thursday, October 27, 2016 3:23:25 PM CEST Pádraig Brady wrote:
> >>> On 24/10/16 17:35, Florian Weimer wrote:
> I recall some reports
You can add this one https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=768632
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On 10/24/2016 06:34 PM, Michael Catanzaro wrote:
> On Mon, 2016-10-24 at 18:07 +0200, Jakub Filak wrote:
>> I use ABRT to report crashes, I deal with ABRT reports and I'm happy
>> with
>> the current default.
>>
>> I am sorry. I understand your problem, but I don't have any good
>> solution
>> for
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