Re: yet anothers things to do: Appstream, comps and remix

2016-10-27 Thread Sérgio Basto
On Qui, 2016-10-27 at 21:23 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Fri, 2016-10-28 at 04:53 +0100, Sérgio Basto wrote: > > > > Hello,  > > > > Adam Williamson wrote today in reply of one question (made by me) > > :  > > "Hmm, actually, maybe it currently doesn't, but it definitely has > > before: > >

Re: yet anothers things to do: Appstream, comps and remix

2016-10-27 Thread Adam Williamson
On Fri, 2016-10-28 at 04:53 +0100, Sérgio Basto wrote: > Hello,  > > Adam Williamson wrote today in reply of one question (made by me) :  > "Hmm, actually, maybe it currently doesn't, but it definitely has > before: > > http://download1.rpmfusion.org/free/fedora/updates/testing/20/x86_64/comps.xm

yet anothers things to do: Appstream, comps and remix

2016-10-27 Thread Sérgio Basto
Hello,  Adam Williamson wrote today in reply of one question (made by me) :  "Hmm, actually, maybe it currently doesn't, but it definitely has before: http://download1.rpmfusion.org/free/fedora/updates/testing/20/x86_64/comps.xml But basically, any repo can have comps data and dnf will respect i

Re: F25 workstation, and (almost) hidpi displays

2016-10-27 Thread David Airlie
> > > > DP-3-1 connected primary 1920x1200+0+0 (normal left inverted right x axis y > > axis) 518mm x 324mm > > > > Not sure what you think is hiding it, sounds like KDE is just broken. > > Well, no, that's not fair - X allows you to query the display size, and > it used to return whatever the d

Re: F25 workstation, and (almost) hidpi displays

2016-10-27 Thread Adam Williamson
On Thu, 2016-10-27 at 20:29 -0400, David Airlie wrote: > > - Original Message - > > From: "Kevin Kofler" > > To: devel@lists.fedoraproject.org > > Sent: Friday, 28 October, 2016 7:50:48 AM > > Subject: Re: F25 workstation, and (almost) hidpi displays > > > > nicolas.mail...@laposte.net w

Re: F25 workstation, and (almost) hidpi displays

2016-10-27 Thread David Airlie
- Original Message - > From: "Kevin Kofler" > To: devel@lists.fedoraproject.org > Sent: Friday, 28 October, 2016 7:50:48 AM > Subject: Re: F25 workstation, and (almost) hidpi displays > > nicolas.mail...@laposte.net wrote: > > But, GTK core maintainers have always insisted those didn't

Re: Bodhi For Rawhide?

2016-10-27 Thread Adam Williamson
On Fri, 2016-10-28 at 00:17 +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote: > * One of the nice things which Bodhi does is running several check, such > > as depcheck, rpmlint (actually question if we are using rpmlint for > > Fedora builds was what triggered this email), etc. On one hand, I'd love > > to see these ch

Re: F25 workstation, and (almost) hidpi displays

2016-10-27 Thread Adam Williamson
On Thu, 2016-10-27 at 23:50 +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote: > nicolas.mail...@laposte.net wrote: > > But, GTK core maintainers have always insisted those didn't exist (just > > like they insisted on hardcoding 96 dpi, on the eve of Apple showing the > > world it was arbitrary and obsolete). > > The wor

Re: [Fwd: Re: [Fedora-packaging] Re: why the Group tag is obsolete ?]

2016-10-27 Thread Kevin Kofler
Sérgio Basto wrote: > Many thanks by your reply, yes or creterepo could use appdata directly, > makes sense improve createrepo with appdata, btw I noticie, apper (kde > software manager) on Fedora 24 fails on search groups with: > "SearchGroups not supported by backend" , what tools we have to read

Re: Bodhi For Rawhide?

2016-10-27 Thread Kevin Kofler
Vít Ondruch wrote: > I am thinking, why we don't have enabled Bodhi for Rawhide? I know that > you might think now that I went nut and it is bureaucracy, but let me > explain. > > If I understand it correctly, during several past years, our build > process was more streamlined and we are trying to

Re: F25 workstation, and (almost) hidpi displays

2016-10-27 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On 27 October 2016 at 17:50, Kevin Kofler wrote: > nicolas.mail...@laposte.net wrote: >> But, GTK core maintainers have always insisted those didn't exist (just >> like they insisted on hardcoding 96 dpi, on the eve of Apple showing the >> world it was arbitrary and obsolete). > > The worst is tha

Re: F25 workstation, and (almost) hidpi displays

2016-10-27 Thread Kevin Kofler
nicolas.mail...@laposte.net wrote: > But, GTK core maintainers have always insisted those didn't exist (just > like they insisted on hardcoding 96 dpi, on the eve of Apple showing the > world it was arbitrary and obsolete). The worst is that this mentality has infected the core X11 as well, also

Fedora 25 Final blocker status mail #1

2016-10-27 Thread Adam Williamson
Hi folks! The Fedora 25 Final freeze is fast approaching (it's 2016-11- 01), so it's time for a blocker status mail. As there's only five blockers, I'll skip the tl;dr summary, the mail is quite short anyhow. Bug-by-bug detail = 1. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1378

Re: Bodhi For Rawhide?

2016-10-27 Thread Matthew Miller
On Thu, Oct 27, 2016 at 05:17:59PM +0200, Vít Ondruch wrote: > Why Koji functionality? If there was Bodhi for Rawhide enabled, then > this is probably fedpkg extension. E.g. "fedpkg build" knows when the > build succeeds, then it can immediately follow with "fedpkg update" and > if all the automate

Re: Bodhi For Rawhide?

2016-10-27 Thread Matthew Miller
On Thu, Oct 27, 2016 at 08:15:21AM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > > > My concern would be further diluting and already thin QA community > > > with yet another thing to test. > > What if updates to Bikeshed which pass all the automated tests were > > pushed automatically in batches every, say, wee

Re: Bodhi For Rawhide?

2016-10-27 Thread Matthew Miller
On Thu, Oct 27, 2016 at 10:48:24AM -0400, Josh Boyer wrote: > My concern isn't "how do we get Bikeshed tested". It's "how do we > make sure Rawhide continues to be tested if Bikeshed exists and > promises to be somehow a more stable rawhide". Simple: it probably wouldn't. > Rawhide testing today

Re: [Fwd: Re: [Fedora-packaging] Re: why the Group tag is obsolete ?]

2016-10-27 Thread Sérgio Basto
On Qui, 2016-10-27 at 14:07 -0500, Dennis Gilmore wrote: > On jueves, 27 de octubre de 2016 5:39:20 PM CDT Sérgio Basto wrote: > > > > Hi,  > > > > On Qui, 2016-10-27 at 09:30 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > > > > > > On Thu, 2016-10-27 at 17:24 +0100, Sérgio Basto wrote: > > > > > > > > Hello,

Re: Slow configure scripts

2016-10-27 Thread Pádraig Brady
On 27/10/16 17:09, Pavel Raiskup wrote: > On Thursday, October 27, 2016 3:23:25 PM CEST Pádraig Brady wrote: >> On 24/10/16 17:35, Florian Weimer wrote: >>> I recall some reports that configure scripts are really slow in recent >>> Fedora versions due to pervasive use of BIND_NOW. >>> >>> Has anyo

Re: [Fwd: Re: [Fedora-packaging] Re: why the Group tag is obsolete ?]

2016-10-27 Thread Dennis Gilmore
On jueves, 27 de octubre de 2016 5:39:20 PM CDT Sérgio Basto wrote: > Hi, > > On Qui, 2016-10-27 at 09:30 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > > On Thu, 2016-10-27 at 17:24 +0100, Sérgio Basto wrote: > > > Hello, I'd like understand how groups of package are now detect , > > > specially in 3rd repo pa

Re: Bodhi For Rawhide?

2016-10-27 Thread Orion Poplawski
On 10/27/2016 08:05 AM, Matthew Miller wrote: On Thu, Oct 27, 2016 at 12:53:27PM +0200, Vít Ondruch wrote: * And probably last think, why the Rawhide should be really exception? Why we should not use Bodhi if we are using it anywhere else? Lets use Bodhi for Rawhide, where the submitted update w

Re: Slow configure scripts

2016-10-27 Thread Florian Weimer
On 10/27/2016 07:01 PM, Pavel Raiskup wrote: On Monday, October 24, 2016 6:35:36 PM CEST Florian Weimer wrote: I recall some reports that configure scripts are really slow in recent Fedora versions due to pervasive use of BIND_NOW. Based on BIND_NOW, you are talking about builds in Koji. Righ

Re: Slow configure scripts

2016-10-27 Thread Pavel Raiskup
On Monday, October 24, 2016 6:35:36 PM CEST Florian Weimer wrote: > I recall some reports that configure scripts are really slow in recent > Fedora versions due to pervasive use of BIND_NOW. Based on BIND_NOW, you are talking about builds in Koji. Right? To build from source (repeated ./configu

Re: [Fwd: Re: [Fedora-packaging] Re: why the Group tag is obsolete ?]

2016-10-27 Thread Adam Williamson
On Thu, 2016-10-27 at 17:39 +0100, Sérgio Basto wrote: > Hi,  > > On Qui, 2016-10-27 at 09:30 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > > On Thu, 2016-10-27 at 17:24 +0100, Sérgio Basto wrote: > > > > > > Hello, I'd like understand how groups of package are now detect , > > > specially in 3rd repo packages

Re: [Fwd: Re: [Fedora-packaging] Re: why the Group tag is obsolete ?]

2016-10-27 Thread Sérgio Basto
Hi,  On Qui, 2016-10-27 at 09:30 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Thu, 2016-10-27 at 17:24 +0100, Sérgio Basto wrote: > > > > Hello, I'd like understand how groups of package are now detect , > > specially in 3rd repo packages  which can't use comps.xml.  > Sure they can. Third party repos can

Re: [Fwd: Re: [Fedora-packaging] Re: why the Group tag is obsolete ?]

2016-10-27 Thread Adam Williamson
On Thu, 2016-10-27 at 17:24 +0100, Sérgio Basto wrote: > Hello, I'd like understand how groups of package are now detect , > specially in 3rd repo packages  which can't use comps.xml.  Sure they can. Third party repos can provide comps, and all Fedora packaging tools will use it. RPMFusion, for in

[Fwd: Re: [Fedora-packaging] Re: why the Group tag is obsolete ?]

2016-10-27 Thread Sérgio Basto
Hello, I'd like understand how groups of package are now detect , specially in 3rd repo packages  which can't use comps.xml.  Thanks !  Forwarded Message From: Sérgio Basto To: packag...@lists.fedoraproject.org Subject: Re: [Fedora-packaging] Re: why the Group tag is obsolete ?

Re: Slow configure scripts

2016-10-27 Thread Pavel Raiskup
On Thursday, October 27, 2016 3:23:25 PM CEST Pádraig Brady wrote: > On 24/10/16 17:35, Florian Weimer wrote: > > I recall some reports that configure scripts are really slow in recent > > Fedora versions due to pervasive use of BIND_NOW. > > > > Has anyone investigated this further? Is there a

Re: RPM %changelog?

2016-10-27 Thread Adam Williamson
On Thu, 2016-10-27 at 13:57 +0200, Michael Schwendt wrote: > On Tue, 25 Oct 2016 08:40:04 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > > > That's pretty much the exact *opposite* of what I put in the changelog, > > FWIW. > > It is no news that in recent years some people have pushed their own > agenda about w

Re: Bodhi For Rawhide?

2016-10-27 Thread Adam Williamson
On Thu, 2016-10-27 at 10:37 -0400, Matthew Miller wrote: > On Thu, Oct 27, 2016 at 10:12:09AM -0400, Josh Boyer wrote: > > > What if we leave Rawhide as it is, but create the new > > > somewhat-better-than-Rawhide repo that Dennis Gilmore was talking about > > > last year, and enable Bodhi on that?

Re: Bodhi For Rawhide?

2016-10-27 Thread Vít Ondruch
Dne 27.10.2016 v 16:45 Matthew Miller napsal(a): > On Thu, Oct 27, 2016 at 04:35:17PM +0200, Vít Ondruch wrote: >> This means to go to some unexplored lands. I am not sure I am fan of >> this idea. >>> It might be nice for the "fedpkg build" command line to take the >>> "--type bugfix|enhancement

Re: Bodhi For Rawhide?

2016-10-27 Thread Matthew Miller
On Thu, Oct 27, 2016 at 04:35:17PM +0200, Vít Ondruch wrote: > This means to go to some unexplored lands. I am not sure I am fan of > this idea. > > It might be nice for the "fedpkg build" command line to take the > > "--type bugfix|enhancement|security" option so that could be passed on > > in som

Re: Bodhi For Rawhide?

2016-10-27 Thread Josh Boyer
On Thu, Oct 27, 2016 at 10:37 AM, Matthew Miller wrote: > On Thu, Oct 27, 2016 at 10:12:09AM -0400, Josh Boyer wrote: >> > What if we leave Rawhide as it is, but create the new >> > somewhat-better-than-Rawhide repo that Dennis Gilmore was talking about >> > last year, and enable Bodhi on that? (T

Re: Bodhi For Rawhide?

2016-10-27 Thread Matthew Miller
On Thu, Oct 27, 2016 at 10:12:09AM -0400, Josh Boyer wrote: > > What if we leave Rawhide as it is, but create the new > > somewhat-better-than-Rawhide repo that Dennis Gilmore was talking about > > last year, and enable Bodhi on that? (The thing that I very desperately > > want to be named "Fedora

Re: Bodhi For Rawhide?

2016-10-27 Thread Vít Ondruch
Dne 27.10.2016 v 16:05 Matthew Miller napsal(a): > On Thu, Oct 27, 2016 at 12:53:27PM +0200, Vít Ondruch wrote: >> * And probably last think, why the Rawhide should be really exception? >> Why we should not use Bodhi if we are using it anywhere else? >> Lets use Bodhi for Rawhide, where the submi

Re: Slow configure scripts

2016-10-27 Thread Pádraig Brady
On 24/10/16 17:35, Florian Weimer wrote: > I recall some reports that configure scripts are really slow in recent > Fedora versions due to pervasive use of BIND_NOW. > > Has anyone investigated this further? Is there a bug report somewhere? Related to this I was wondering if there was any thoug

Re: Firefox 49.0.2

2016-10-27 Thread Martin Stransky
On 10/27/2016 11:11 AM, Michael J Gruber wrote: Martin Stransky venit, vidit, dixit 26.10.2016 11:42: Thanks for pointing it here, I miss that minor update. Btw. a new #BZ at bugzilla.redhat.com would work even better. There are two security bugs marked as "High" which means "Moderate" in Fedor

Re: Bodhi For Rawhide?

2016-10-27 Thread Josh Boyer
On Thu, Oct 27, 2016 at 10:05 AM, Matthew Miller wrote: > On Thu, Oct 27, 2016 at 12:53:27PM +0200, Vít Ondruch wrote: >> * And probably last think, why the Rawhide should be really exception? >> Why we should not use Bodhi if we are using it anywhere else? >> Lets use Bodhi for Rawhide, where the

Re: Bodhi For Rawhide?

2016-10-27 Thread Matthew Miller
On Thu, Oct 27, 2016 at 12:53:27PM +0200, Vít Ondruch wrote: > * And probably last think, why the Rawhide should be really exception? > Why we should not use Bodhi if we are using it anywhere else? > Lets use Bodhi for Rawhide, where the submitted update would immediately > go into Rawhide, unless

Fedora Rawhide-20161027.n.0 compose check report

2016-10-27 Thread Fedora compose checker
Missing expected images: Cloud_base qcow2 x86_64 Atomic qcow2 x86_64 Workstation live i386 Kde live x86_64 Cloud_base raw-xz x86_64 Atomic raw-xz x86_64 Kde raw-xz armhfp Minimal raw-xz armhfp Workstation live x86_64 Kde live i386 Failed openQA tests: 8/79 (x86_64), 2/15 (i386) New failures (sam

Re: Bodhi For Rawhide?

2016-10-27 Thread Vít Ondruch
Dne 27.10.2016 v 14:12 Pavel Raiskup napsal(a): > On Thursday, October 27, 2016 12:53:27 PM CEST Vít Ondruch wrote: >> * And probably last think, why the Rawhide should be really exception? >> Why we should not use Bodhi if we are using it anywhere else? > The reason for exception might be that b

Re: Bodhi For Rawhide?

2016-10-27 Thread Vít Ondruch
Dne 27.10.2016 v 13:42 Neal Gompa napsal(a): > On Thu, Oct 27, 2016 at 6:53 AM, Vít Ondruch wrote: >> Hi all, >> >> I am thinking, why we don't have enabled Bodhi for Rawhide? I know that >> you might think now that I went nut and it is bureaucracy, but let me >> explain. >> >> If I understand i

Re: Bodhi For Rawhide?

2016-10-27 Thread Pavel Raiskup
On Thursday, October 27, 2016 12:53:27 PM CEST Vít Ondruch wrote: > Hi all, > > I am thinking, why we don't have enabled Bodhi for Rawhide? I know that > you might think now that I went nut and it is bureaucracy, Not at all to me. > but let me > explain. > > If I understand it correctly, during

Re: RPM %changelog?

2016-10-27 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Tue, 25 Oct 2016 08:40:04 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > That's pretty much the exact *opposite* of what I put in the changelog, > FWIW. It is no news that in recent years some people have pushed their own agenda about what to put into which changelog. I can't do anything about that. > For m

Re: Bodhi For Rawhide?

2016-10-27 Thread Neal Gompa
On Thu, Oct 27, 2016 at 6:53 AM, Vít Ondruch wrote: > Hi all, > > I am thinking, why we don't have enabled Bodhi for Rawhide? I know that > you might think now that I went nut and it is bureaucracy, but let me > explain. > > If I understand it correctly, during several past years, our build > proc

Fedora rawhide compose report: 20161027.n.0 changes

2016-10-27 Thread Fedora Rawhide Report
OLD: Fedora-Rawhide-20161026.n.0 NEW: Fedora-Rawhide-20161027.n.0 = SUMMARY = Added images:0 Dropped images: 38 Added packages: 7 Dropped packages:0 Upgraded packages: 59 Downgraded packages: 0 Size of added packages: 766.44 KiB Size of dropped packages

Re: Pondering security update time frames

2016-10-27 Thread Matthew Miller
On Thu, Oct 27, 2016 at 07:37:48AM +0100, Peter Robinson wrote: > > simpel problem. It'd be nice if we could reduce that turn-around time > > to hours, if not minutes. > If it takes several goes to get right it's clearly not a simple > problem! I don't think that's so clear -- there's lots of cas

Bodhi For Rawhide?

2016-10-27 Thread Vít Ondruch
Hi all, I am thinking, why we don't have enabled Bodhi for Rawhide? I know that you might think now that I went nut and it is bureaucracy, but let me explain. If I understand it correctly, during several past years, our build process was more streamlined and we are trying to do the Rawhide compos

Re: Firefox 49.0.2

2016-10-27 Thread Michael J Gruber
Martin Stransky venit, vidit, dixit 26.10.2016 11:42: > Thanks for pointing it here, I miss that minor update. Btw. a new #BZ at > bugzilla.redhat.com would work even better. > > There are two security bugs marked as "High" which means "Moderate" in > Fedora terms. The big ones has "Critical" ra

Re: F26 proposed release tooling changes

2016-10-27 Thread Alexander Bokovoy
On to, 27 loka 2016, Jan Kurik wrote: I am not very familiar with the Fedora Infrastructure, I am just curios whether the kerberos is going to be somehow synchronized with FAS ? In short: yes. However, please wait for official announcement by Fedora Infrastructure for the actual details. -- /

Re: F26 proposed release tooling changes

2016-10-27 Thread Jan Kurik
I am not very familiar with the Fedora Infrastructure, I am just curios whether the kerberos is going to be somehow synchronized with FAS ? Jan On Wed, Oct 26, 2016 at 7:50 PM, Charalampos Stratakis wrote: > kerberos support for Fedora infra would be an amazing step forward. > > Charalampos Stra